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Post Post #9725 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:35 am

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In post 9705, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I proposed no lynch because any death will give us information. Whereas the lynches we were proposing earlier were essentially policy lynches and you can't really analyze those.
Are you seriously proposing no lynch? Or are you saying there is nobody you're willing to push? And the 2 halves of the 1st sentence make no sense:

"I proposed no lynch (no death) because any death will give us information" -- so you want no information?
Scumslip? I have occasionally typed what I was really feeling, when it was not what I actually wanted to say.
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Post Post #9726 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:35 am

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So you're telling me scum is Ceasar, Dave, PV, and Sondam?
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Post Post #9727 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:36 am

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davesaz, wagons you want, now.
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Post Post #9728 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:36 am

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In post 9725, davesaz wrote:
In post 9705, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I proposed no lynch because any death will give us information. Whereas the lynches we were proposing earlier were essentially policy lynches and you can't really analyze those.
Are you seriously proposing no lynch? Or are you saying there is nobody you're willing to push? And the 2 halves of the 1st sentence make no sense:

"I proposed no lynch (no death) because any death will give us information" -- so you want no information?
Scumslip? I have occasionally typed what I was really feeling, when it was not what I actually wanted to say.
Last sentence explains first.
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Post Post #9729 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:37 am

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We aren't going to assume PV is scum, we're going to assume the worst case scenario where PV is just town and we have all scum alive, if we don't follow him on all reads, we must be alright.
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Post Post #9730 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:37 am

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In post 9724, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Then we see who was pushing/doubt casting/dare I say buddying said players.
Wich is exactly why we lynch and not no lynch. Sorry you flipped scum Luv.
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Post Post #9731 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:37 am

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LUV actually mean't he expects the nightkills to give info.
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Post Post #9732 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:40 am

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In post 9730, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 9724, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Then we see who was pushing/doubt casting/dare I say buddying said players.
Wich is exactly why we lynch and not no lynch. Sorry you flipped scum Luv.
Won't get any info lynching Ceasar or Dave.
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Post Post #9733 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:40 am

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What about Sondam?
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Post Post #9734 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:41 am

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Scum have to decide what direction they want the story to go tonight. They might help us, they might not.
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Post Post #9735 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:41 am

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Sondam tells us a lot because we've had people defend her in Ali, nancy, and Notice.
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Post Post #9736 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:42 am

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Other stuff too would have to ISO them again for interactions.
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Post Post #9737 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:42 am

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We may have seemed to pick up activity, but it seems like it's all just a fight between LUV, Nero and me.
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Post Post #9738 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:42 am

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Might reveal scum theatre between them and The DEO.
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Post Post #9739 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:43 am

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Okay, Sondam is actually a promising wagon, let's fight this ghost resistance and stop this mislynch streak.
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Post Post #9740 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:44 am

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In post 9714, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Pretty much lynching a lurker tells us nothing.
Conceptually right direction but factually incorrect. Lynching a lurker tells us who is willing to lynch a lurker, but that information is ineffective because it's very hard to distinguish town who think the lurker may be scum from scum rejoicing in the ability to mislynch someone.

Pedit: Creature, I'm just now getting to the end of catching up. You're really one to talk with the whole sheeping thing. You're willing to join any wagon but I don't think I've seen you be the first to push and vote someone yet this game (save perhaps your RVS if any). Caveat, I have not put the dozens of hours into reading that would have been necessary to see and remember every vote, but still...

Pedit2: What you usually find out from NK is who scum think they can kill without interference and either without making NKA obvious or with framing someone.

Pedit3: Can someone give me a synopsis on Sondam?
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Post Post #9741 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:48 am

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I don't remember if I was the first to push someone (though I remember I pushed someone based on non-sheepy thoughts), but I'm the main pusher.
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Post Post #9742 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:51 am

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You may think you're the main pusher of saying there needs to be a push, but I'd like to see some reasons, not just reactions.
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Post Post #9743 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:52 am

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Sondam is coasting, avoiding any engagement, Gerry looks pretty bad and for some reason their wagon is hard to push.
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Post Post #9744 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:06 am

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In post 9731, Creature wrote:LUV actually mean't he expects the nightkills to give info.
Anyone look into why I was killed? Frogger might have been obvious, but I sure wasn't.
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Post Post #9745 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:13 am

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In post 9744, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 9731, Creature wrote:LUV actually mean't he expects the nightkills to give info.
Anyone look into why I was killed? Frogger might have been obvious, but I sure wasn't.
you were killed b/c Math was looking for the Pyramids and somehow found them.
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Post Post #9746 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:21 am

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Starting from I think 9514, I got bad vibes from Sondom, as if he wanted to drown out the accusations against him chanting the same mantra instead of disproving what went against him. The fact if the matter is that the behavior didn't change so I don't see it as a gimmick but as a deflection technique.

Lunch break post, if you have a case on Sondom that's not just because he's not around, quote it or reference it so I can make my own determinations.

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Post Post #9747 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:31 am

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Caesar requests a cessation of votes against the scoundrel Sondam until the Exchequer of the Senate can provide us with an up-to-date tally of the standings.

While We endorse this resolution, We have further topics to discuss before ending the session. Namely, We desire to elaborate upon Our suspicions of Lil Uzi Vert, who has received little scrutiny as yet. Should We meet with assassins in the night, We would not have this information lost to the Ages.

Though we nominally withdraw Our support, you may rest assured that it remains in force in spirit, and will be formally reasserted following the Exchequer's tally.


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Post Post #9748 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:42 am

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Lol
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Post Post #9749 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:48 am

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Only 7 pages since the last VC. I need to drive to work so can't do this myself, but it should not be difficult to get a handle on it.
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