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inte replaced split who replaced Pizza
RainbowDash replaced TML who replaced Jester
HezLucky replaced drmyshotgun
Scott Brosius replaced Zeek who replaced knox
Tammy replaced MattP who replaced Istark

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count 1

MOI

6 - vijay2vansandani,

inte

,

Benmage

,

Fate

,

pappums rat

,Yates

Korlash

2 -

Tammy

,

Korlash

vijay 1 - HezLucky

Tammy

1 - Scott Brosius

RainbowDash

1 -

PeregrineV

Scott Brosius 1 -

MOI

,

Not Voting

RainbowDash

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count 2

MOI

4 -

inte

,

Benmage

,

pappums rat

,Yates

Korlash

2 -

Tammy

,

Korlash

,
vijay 1 - HezLucky

Tammy

1 - Scott Brosius

RainbowDash

1 -

PeregrineV

Benmage

1 -

MOI

,
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,

Not Voting

RainbowDash

Fate

,

It is now Day 1, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count 3

MOI

3 -

Benmage

,

pappums rat

,Yates

Korlash

2 -

Tammy

,

Korlash

,

Inte

2 - HezLucky,

Fate

,

Tammy

1 - Scott Brosius

RainbowDash

1 -

PeregrineV

Benmage

1 -

MOI

Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani

Not Voting

RainbowDash

inte

It is now Day 1, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count 4

pappums rat

3 -

MOI

,

Korlash

,

RainbowDash

inte

3 - HezLucky,

Fate

,

pappums rat

MOI

2 -

Benmage

, Yates

RainbowDash

1 - Scott Brosius
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani

Korlash

1 -

PeregrineV

Not Voting

Tammy

inte

It is now Day 1, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count 4

inte

4 - HezLucky,

Fate

,

pappums rat

,

Tammy

pappums rat

3 -

MOI

,

Korlash

,

RainbowDash

MOI

2 -

Benmage

, Yates

RainbowDash

1 - Scott Brosius
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,

Tammy

1 -

PeregrineV

Not Voting

inte

It is now Day 1, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count 5

pappums rat

4 -

MOI

,

Korlash

,

RainbowDash

,

inte

[

inte

3 - HezLucky,

Fate

,

Tammy

MOI

3 -

Benmage

, Yates,

pappums rat

,

RainbowDash

1 - Scott Brosius
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani

Tammy

1 -

PeregrineV

Not Voting

It is now Day 1, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count 6

Rat 4 -

MOI

,

Korlash

,

RainbowDash

,

Inte

MOI

4 -

Benmage

, Yates,

pappums rat

,

Tammy

,

Inte

2 - HezLucky,

Fate

,

RainbowDash

1 - Scott Brosius
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,

Tammy

1 -

PeregrineV

Not Voting

It is now Day 1, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count 7

pappums rat

3 -

MOI

,

RainbowDash

,

Inte

MOI

6 -

Benmage

, Yates,

pappums rat

,

Tammy

,

Fate

,

Korlash

Inte

1 - HezLucky

RainbowDash

1 - Scott Brosius
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani

Tammy

1 -

PeregrineV

Not Voting

It is now Day 1, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count 7

pappums rat

, 2 -

RainbowDash

,

Inte

,

MOI

6 -

Benmage

, Yates,

pappums rat

,

Tammy

,

Korlash

,HezLucky,

RainbowDash

1 - Scott Brosius
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani

Tammy

1 -

PeregrineV

Korlash

2 -

Fate

,

MOI

,

Not Voting

It is now Day 1, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count 8

MOI

7 -

Benmage

, Yates,

pappums rat

,

Tammy

,

Korlash

, HezLucky, vijay2vansandani

pappums rat

2 -

RainbowDash

,

Inte

RainbowDash

1 - Scott Brosius

Tammy

1 -

PeregrineV

Korlash

2 -

Fate

,

MOI

Not Voting

It is now Day 1, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 2 VC 1

Korlash

3 -

pappums rat

,

RainbowDash

,

Tammy

vijay2vansandani 3 -

Korlash

, HezLucky, Yates
Yates 2 - vijay2vansandani, Scott Brosius

Not voting

PeregrineV

Inte

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 2 VC 2

Korlash

3 -

pappums rat

,

RainbowDash

,

Tammy

vijay2vansandani 3 -

Korlash

, HezLucky, Yates
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani

Inte

1 - Scott Brosius

Not voting

PeregrineV

Inte

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 2 VC 3

Korlash

4 -

pappums rat

,

RainbowDash

,

Tammy

,

inte

vijay2vansandani 3 -

Korlash

, HezLucky, Yates
HezLucky 2 -

PeregrineV

, Scott Brosius
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,

Not voting

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 2 VC 4

Korlash

5 -

pappums rat

,

RainbowDash

,

Tammy

,

inte

, HezLucky
vijay2vansandani 2 -

Korlash

, Yates
HezLucky 2 -

PeregrineV

, Scott Brosius
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,

Not voting

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 2 VC 6

Korlash

6 -

pappums rat

,

RainbowDash

,

inte

, HezLucky, vijay2vansandani,

Tammy

,
vijay2vansandani 2 -

Korlash

, Yates
HezLucky 1 -

PeregrineV

Not voting 1 -

Scott Brosius

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Vote Count 1 Day 3

Scott Brosius - 2

PeregrineV

,

inte

inte

2 - Scott Brosius, vijay2vansandani,
vijay2vansandani 1 - Yates

PeregrineV

1 - HezLucky

Not voting

Tammy

RainbowDash

Day 3 begins with 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Vote Count 1 Day 3

Scott B - 2

PeregrineV

,

inte

inte

2 - vijay2vansandani,

Tammy

vijay2vansandani 1 - Yates

PeregrineV

2 - HezLucky, Scott Brosius

Not voting

RainbowDash

Day 3 begins with 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Vote Count 1 Day 4

Inte

4 - vijay2vansandani,

Tammy

,

PeregrineV

,Yates

PeregrineV

2 - HezLucky, Scott Brosius
Scott Brosius - 1

Inte

Not voting

RainbowDash

Day 3 begins with 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Vote Count 1 Day 5

Inte

2 - vijay2vansandani, Yates

PeregrineV

2 - HezLucky, Scott Brosius
Yates 1 -

Inte

HezLucky 1 -

PeregrineV

Not voting

RainbowDash

Tammy

Day 3 begins with 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Vote Count 1 Day 6

HezLucky 2 -

PeregrineV

,

RainbowDash

Inte

2 - vijay2vansandani, Yates

PeregrineV

2 - HezLucky, Scott Brosius
Yates 1 -

Inte

Scott Brosius 1 -

Tammy

Not voting

Day 3 begins with 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Vote Count 1 Day 7

Inte

5 - vijay2vansandani, Yates,

RainbowDash

, HezLucky,

Tammy

HezLucky 1 -

PeregrineV

PeregrineV

1 - Scott Brosius
Vijay 1 -

Inte

Not voting

Day 3 begins with 8 alive, it took5 to lynch.

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Day 4 VC 1

No Lynch 4 – Scott Brosius, vijay2vansandani,Yates,

Tammy

Not Voting

Yates
HezLucky

PeregrineV

No Lynch majority reached in post 1227

No Lynch was decided today, so no flip scene.

D1 - VJ hammer
D2 - VJ put Korlash at L-1
D3 - VJ was vote 1 on Inte

D1 - Hez put MOI at L-1
D2 - Hez put Korlash at L-2
D3 - Hez put Inte at L-1

I was on 2/3
PV was on 2/3

SB was on 1/3 - never voted MOI but voted consistently for known Town:
Tammy & RBD D1 - both NKed
Me then Inte then Hez then noone? on D2
Inte then PV D3

On the outset, I thought this exercise did not help me at all. All it proved is what I already knew - PV and are are the only two conf Town. VJ and Hez being on all 3 Town wagons looks really bad.

Interestingly, SB was NEVER on a Town lynch. Not once. On the face of it, you would think that makes him Town. But that isn't really true, is it? The only people that KNEW who was Town and who wasn't was? Yeah.... When you look at his voting record, he is *always* voting Town except when the final vote is tallied. The fact that the only person remaining that he never voted for was VJ?? Lock it up. SB and VJ are scum partners.

@Hez and PV - which one do you want to lynch first? Between the two? I personally feel much more confident in SB scum - though an SB scum flip all but guarantees a VJ scum flip.

@VJ - if you aren't SB's partner, prove me wrong. Right now, I see you calling SB obv Town for absolutely no reason and SB seemingly thinking you are obv Town though never coming out and saying it. That kind of noncommittal basically has you nailed.

Damnit. I'm second guessing myself.

Scum is SB-VJ or SB-Hez. This is why I'm going to vote SB. I just want to know which is his scum partner.

OK, next is a game we're going to call



In it, each person speculates why they are still alive and in lylo, instead of dead.

I can go first.



My heavy suspicion of HezLucky and earlier suspicion of Scott Brosius, combined with a general perception that I suck at mafia.

↑ Yates wrote:

All it proved is what I already knew - PV and are are the only two conf Town.

What does this mean?

I haven't gotten a grip on this game and therefore I am easy mislynch fodder.

PV did you gain anything from the games I provided you or are you just trying to look busy and helpful?

No votes



Yates
HezLucky
Scott Brosius
PeregrineV
vijay2vansandani

(expired on 2012-07-26 20:30:21)

till Day 5 Deadline

↑ Scott Brosius wrote:

↑ Yates wrote:

All it proved is what I already knew - PV and are are the only two conf Town.

What does this mean?

I haven't gotten a grip on this game

and therefore I am easy mislynch fodder.

How is this something that scum can determine?
How can you have "not gotten a grip". Because from here it seems like you're not even trying.

↑ Scott Brosius wrote:PV did you gain anything from the games I provided you or are you just trying to look busy and helpful?

Sure did. Your scum game was less than 50 posts, eaten by tigers, and provides no information on your scum play.

Your town game, which is about this size (player numbers and pages) you posted 3 times as much as you have here. Even given that you replaced in, this-game-Scott does not match Mason-monks-town Scott.

Considering I haven't had a strong read all game which is readily apparent, seems pretty easy to determine.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

"Why scum brought me to lylo"

This is clearly wifom but I'll play because, tbh, I have been asking myself the same question [as evidenced in 1290].

1. If scum team is SB-Hez:

A. I think I was brought to lylo with VJ in the hopes we would go after each other like rabid animals. VJ's tunneling [as pointed out in post 1295] and the fact I have voted VJ at least twice are my primary reasons for thinking this. This is actually the primary reason I have softened my view on VJ-scum.

B. Post 1254 would be the kind of buddy defense I would expect from a SB-Hez scum team. Post 1278 is another post that could be indicative of scum buddy logic at work. SB was on and off Hez pretty quick on Day 2 to ultimately vote no one. This looked like weak distancing to me. On the flip side, Hez has never voted for SB. So he either had an EARLY Town read on SB for reasons yet to be explained or they are scum buddies.

C. My post 1098 was the last time I mentioned SB in a read and I had him listed as "weak Town" in my discussion with Tammy. This probably made scum think I was referring to SB and Pere as my unlisted "other Town" reads in post 1080. Plus, I made SB a 1 in my "likely to lynch" exercise back in post 1021.

2. If scum team is SB-VJ:

A. All of C is still in play.

B. VJ was on all 3 Town lynches while SB was NEVER on a Town lynch. Interesting that they never voted together. Yet, despite this, they call each other weak Town or Town reads without ever saying why. That's a very strong relational tell to me. This is the kind of stuff I would expect from scum partners trying to limit their interactions in terms of reads and voting SPECIFICALLY in an attempt to try to prevent being tied in a relational tell or vc analysis. I'm probably here because I specifically stated that I'm not a strong believer in relational tells in post 1138 and they would be looking to exploit that.

C. I haven't voted for VJ since post 930. Hell, in post 1138 [linked above] I went so far as to practically defend VJ via relational tell to myself. So I think VJ-SB would think they could make me vote Hez.

Again, I find myself with a ton of ammunition for SB scum in two scum scenarios but feel slightly less strongly about his scum buddy [though SB-Hez is gaining traction as I reread].

↑ Scott Brosius wrote:Considering I haven't had a strong read all game which is readily apparent, seems pretty easy to determine.

How is this "Town" to you? Your lack of a strong read is actually scummy, dude. Not to mention that you need to reconcile something for me. How is it that you haven't had any strong reads YET have also never been on a wagon that voted for Town? Was it dumb luck??

WIFOM question is WIFOM.

I'm thinking because of my Yates tunnel, but then again it could be WIFOM on Yates' part so I don't vote him. I don't know.

I'm back.

Yates wrote:All it proved is what I already knew - PV and are are the only two conf Town. VJ and Hez being on all 3 Town wagons looks really bad.

This is really scummy.



I fucking suck at scumhunting. Yay. What's new?

Yates wrote:
B. VJ was on all 3 Town lynches while SB was NEVER on a Town lynch. Interesting that they never voted together. Yet, despite this, they call each other weak Town or Town reads without ever saying why. That's a very strong relational tell to me. This is the kind of stuff I would expect from scum partners trying to limit their interactions in terms of reads and voting SPECIFICALLY in an attempt to try to prevent being tied in a relational tell or vc analysis. I'm probably here because I specifically stated that I'm not a strong believer in relational tells in post 1138 and they would be looking to exploit that.

This is actually intriguing, though.

Yates wrote:How is this "Town" to you? Your lack of a strong read is actually scummy, dude. Not to mention that you need to reconcile something for me. How is it that you haven't had any strong reads YET have also never been on a wagon that voted for Town? Was it dumb luck??

And this reads as aggressive town. Ugh.

Vijay, where did you go?

Vijay has now shot way up my list.

I CAN'T BE WRONG IF I CALL EVERYONE SCUM RIGHT?

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ Scott Brosius wrote:

↑ Yates wrote:

All it proved is what I already knew - PV and are are the only two conf Town.

What does this mean?

I haven't gotten a grip on this game

and therefore I am easy mislynch fodder.

How is this something that scum can determine?
How can you have "not gotten a grip". Because from here it seems like you're not even trying.

↑ Scott Brosius wrote:PV did you gain anything from the games I provided you or are you just trying to look busy and helpful?

Sure did. Your scum game was less than 50 posts, eaten by tigers, and provides no information on your scum play.

Your town game, which is about this size (player numbers and pages) you posted 3 times as much as you have here. Even given that you replaced in, this-game-Scott does not match Mason-monks-town Scott.

Do you have an actual scum game you can link to?

Any comment on your disparity in posting rate of your town game and this one?

↑ vijay2vasandani wrote:WIFOM question is WIFOM.

I'm thinking because of my Yates tunnel, but then again it could be WIFOM on Yates' part so I don't vote him. I don't know.

So you think it was because you were tunneling on Yates?

Do you think that scum would hope that you would be prediposed to vote for Yates?

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ Scott Brosius wrote:

↑ Yates wrote:

All it proved is what I already knew - PV and are are the only two conf Town.

What does this mean?

I haven't gotten a grip on this game

and therefore I am easy mislynch fodder.

How is this something that scum can determine?
How can you have "not gotten a grip". Because from here it seems like you're not even trying.

↑ Scott Brosius wrote:PV did you gain anything from the games I provided you or are you just trying to look busy and helpful?

Sure did. Your scum game was less than 50 posts, eaten by tigers, and provides no information on your scum play.

Your town game, which is about this size (player numbers and pages) you posted 3 times as much as you have here. Even given that you replaced in, this-game-Scott does not match Mason-monks-town Scott.

Do you have an actual scum game you can link to?

Any comment on your disparity in posting rate of your town game and this one?

Is this really the only thing you have against him?

Welcome to MafiaScum LyLo: where nobody seems to give a shit except Hez.

↑ HezLucky wrote:

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ Scott Brosius wrote:

↑ Yates wrote:

All it proved is what I already knew - PV and are are the only two conf Town.

What does this mean?

I haven't gotten a grip on this game

and therefore I am easy mislynch fodder.

How is this something that scum can determine?
How can you have "not gotten a grip". Because from here it seems like you're not even trying.

↑ Scott Brosius wrote:PV did you gain anything from the games I provided you or are you just trying to look busy and helpful?

Sure did. Your scum game was less than 50 posts, eaten by tigers, and provides no information on your scum play.

Your town game, which is about this size (player numbers and pages) you posted 3 times as much as you have here. Even given that you replaced in, this-game-Scott does not match Mason-monks-town Scott.

Do you have an actual scum game you can link to?

Any comment on your disparity in posting rate of your town game and this one?

Is this really the only thing you have against him?

Do I need to have "something against him?" It boils down to voting at least one scum. Then, if scum don't bus, it boils down to convincing the other two town to also vote with me.
if I do it wrong and vote town, scum piles on game over.

So, if I try and squeeze every drop of info out of everyone, then in the end it may boil down to something as stupid as this.

↑ HezLucky wrote:Welcome to MafiaScum LyLo: where nobody seems to give a shit except Hez.

And if you want to defend him, why is Scott NOT scum?

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ HezLucky wrote:Welcome to MafiaScum LyLo: where nobody seems to give a shit except Hez.

And if you want to defend him, why is Scott NOT scum?

I've explained my stance on this already.

He could be.

But if he's scum he's scum with you.

↑ HezLucky wrote:

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ HezLucky wrote:Welcome to MafiaScum LyLo: where nobody seems to give a shit except Hez.

And if you want to defend him, why is Scott NOT scum?

I've explained my stance on this already.

He could be.

But if he's scum he's scum with you.

IIRC, everyone can be scum with me, except you. Making your stance fairly worthless to me.

I don't understand why we aren't lynching SB. Obvious scum is obvious.

No votes



Yates
HezLucky
Scott Brosius
PeregrineV
vijay2vansandani

(expired on 2012-07-26 20:30:21)

till Day 5 Deadline

That deadline just snuck up.

Mafia would want a deadline lynch.

FUCKING SAY SOMETHING. COMMIT TO PEOPLE. AND PUT DOWN A VOTE.

I am talking to Vijay and Scott who have both been fucking useless today.