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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:26 pm
by Daenerys and Dragons
boop
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:26 pm
by Dumb and Dumber
oh hmmm you're right. then like two scum on MC? gamma + scomeone else?
i didn't actually think through all the implicatiosn ig yet lol
~ skitteR
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:31 pm
by Daenerys and Dragons
If you think gamma is the bomb then us/gc/yyotta don't really make sense as the 3rd scum. I think that pool only makes sense if mena flips town or goon.
I kind of feel like gamma/infinity is not a bad guess. and I think infinity is also in my pool if gamma/mena is town. so maybe I just want infinity today.
- Daenerys
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:33 pm
by Dumb and Dumber
In post 1578, Menalque wrote:I have turned over a new leaf since black flag and am now the chilliest boi
Join the club!
In post 1599, Green Crayons wrote:lol if mena = scum, and is just miffed he has a better strat than maybe OG scumgroup did, so he's like "here's what they should've done"
Yes - I was expecting scum to do that ever since the game started, too.
-Dumbass
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:35 pm
by Dumb and Dumber
Menalque, I'm somewhat interested in your lack of a townread on Lilith.
-Dumbass
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:36 pm
by Menalque
In post 1594, Dumb and Dumber wrote: In post 1586, Menalque wrote:You don’t think 2/3 on me yesterday?
In that case either late bus or if they saw it coming early bus on murderkitty
And as for the latter... meh? Like I can’t speak for gamma and either I can get u to see I’m town during the course of the day or we just lim me and u take the info and play from there
Like it lowkey sounds like it will come down to a paranoia thing in which case ehhh I get it but will be annoyed ~somewhat~ if this becomes a tryhardy game for me and I get limmed bc of unsettling stuff from gamma
well MURDERKITTY was off
so both non-flipped scum need to be on you out of three players and you'd need to be town for that to happen and i just don't think that's super likely
the eod felt almost too 'limp' for the gamma cw to be driven by two scum on in - there just wasn't really momentum there, and why wasn't MURDERKITTY voting his own cw?
and i don't think it's a paranoia thing. like it's not abt you. it's about gamma and how day1 played out
~ skitteR
I can only assume that murderkitty was doing that as a frame job
And i didn’t mean the paranoia thing like rn as things stand, I meant it more as in I think I’m generically capable of obvtown img in most games and so I’m just sort of defaulting to the assumption I will here too, at which point I think limming me will be more about paranoia over gamma than me myself
But maybe I’m getting too far ahead
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:36 pm
by Menalque
I... don’t have a lack of a TR on lili?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:36 pm
by Menalque
Not sure where ur getting that from auro
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:39 pm
by Menalque
In post 1595, Green Crayons wrote: In post 1592, Menalque wrote:The path would be >lim murder kitty >NK >9 players left, goon prob gets inducted into the panic room >hardbus the bomb D2 >3p lylo where the goon has led on both their buddies but can explain still being alive via NK expiring after bomb dies
oic
have you played this setup before?
No but i considered signing up for it while it was in queue and was thinking about it then
In post 1597, Dumb and Dumber wrote:mena are you assuming i was inducted in the panic room?
and given that from your pov you're town i'm not hardbussing the bomb ...
~ skitteR
I’m assuming u get inducted into it, not that ur necessarily already in it
I’m thinking if u were inducted yesterday u defo hardbus the bomb if scum today
But I think u prob wait for the confirmation of being inducted if scum rather than starting off hard bussing the bomb today it u weren’t inducted yesterday
In post 1599, Green Crayons wrote:lol if mena = scum, and is just miffed he has a better strat than maybe OG scumgroup did, so he's like "here's what they should've done"
That is something I would do tbf
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:41 pm
by Menalque
Do u mean u expected scum to do my strat or that u expected scum to just have a better strat or what?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:43 pm
by Dumb and Dumber
Oh nevermind, I thought you were referring to the other D&D
Yeah, I expected scum to pull the early hardbus strategy.
-Dumbass
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:44 pm
by Menalque
I am using D&D for lili/cakez and DnD for u/skitt btw
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:44 pm
by Menalque
And I’m assuming u agree with skitt that this didn’t happen or are u both discussing it?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:49 pm
by Dumb and Dumber
In post 1612, Menalque wrote:
And I’m assuming u agree with skitt that this didn’t happen or are u both discussing it?
This gave me some doubt over the Gamma scumread, but then I figured Gamma probably wouldn't adopt this strategy.
-Dumbass
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:53 pm
by Daenerys and Dragons
I disagree actually, I think Gamma!slot is looking better after that flip.
I'm more interested in GC, Yyotta or infinity today
-Dragons
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:55 pm
by Dumb and Dumber
Really?
Because it really looked like scummerald awkwardly trying to defend a lim on his buddy.
-Dumbass
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:01 pm
by Daenerys and Dragons
In post 1517, Dumb and Dumber wrote: In post 1481, Menalque wrote: In post 1474, Dumb and Dumber wrote:Also @mena i have a p strong townpool and gamma never was townie, so he was p firmly outside of it. And i dislike his interactions with mc/mc's wagon, in that he tried to avoid it for a p long time
Okay, well I can’t answer for gamma and I haven’t read yet but I will
Like I don’t ur logic but I would like to hear more on who is particularly towny and why
Although I’d actually prob rather hear after I read up to see if we sync or not
In post 1412, Dumb and Dumber wrote:you
salsa
lilith's slot
~
infinity
gc
yyotta
catboi
~
MURDERKITTY
gamma
tiers look roughly like this ^.
don't really want to flip nm either
this is from my eod yestserday
salsa - strongest townread; the iso-reads she's done on a few slots now are ridiculously +++town, she has an element of guileness that i really like, she just screams newbtown
lilith's slot - the emotion in bickering with gamma + how she picked a fight with me eod yesterday, probably town, probably otu of her scumrange (i'm a bit less confident than i was yesterday, i will say)
~
infinity - with the murder scum flip and infinity's defense of him i want to put him in the bottom category tbh. i don't remember why i was townreading him anymore
gc - liked his stubborness on his shadow read (not the initial read, but rather how he persisted and explained it when i kept pushing back). not as strong a townread as the above but town enough for now
yyotta - also getting newbtown vibes. weaker read than the other townreads
catboi - i really liked shadowslug, and htought he was very, very townie. i don't have much thought on catboi's iteration of the slot tbh
~
gamma - literally never got townvibes from him, hated his half of the lilith/gamma thing
murderkitty - flipped scum! i'm happy i caught that one
~
nm - nm
that's kinda where i'm at. want to focus on lesser townreads / people i don't townread today
~ skitteR
Does this mean your strongest SR is on NM?
yeah I forgot about that, that was so shit
I feel like scum was for sure in that group trying to throw up NM
-Dragons
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:02 pm
by Daenerys and Dragons
In post 1615, Dumb and Dumber wrote:
Really?
Because it really looked like scummerald awkwardly trying to defend a lim on his buddy.
-Dumbass
Disagree, at least to the point where I don't want him yeeted today. I like Mena's posting too.
GC's posting seems to be preemptively trying to avoid a wagon on him. We have seen nothing from Yyotta or Infinity yet. Quite comfortable with this pool.
-Dragons
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:06 pm
by YyottaCat
Does anyone even have any thoughts on NK?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:13 pm
by Daenerys and Dragons
In post 1510, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:not sure if we should be trying to discuss the nk - @d&d do you guys think this is a useful discussion to have?
- Daenerys
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:13 pm
by Green Crayons
Who are your top candidates for MC’s scum buddies, and why?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:07 pm
by catboi
In post 1536, Green Crayons wrote: In post 1506, catboi wrote:FWIW, I still think murdercat's push on yyotta is potentially partner-y but points away from her being the bomb and so would vote elsewhere today.
can you explain this? I just ISO'd MC and I don't think his push looks partner-y, I think it looks like a safe park vote
I thought the push was pretty halfhearted and he backed down rather easily in a way that made it seem like he didn't really want it to go through. However, looking back at him, all his pushes were fairly halfhearted so I don't know how much weight that holds. I wouldn't say it's clearing but not my first choice for a vote.
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:14 pm
by catboi
Menalque: just calm down and read the game.We're not going to quick-elim you, just read up and give your take on things, constantly arguing and spamming the thread without context isn't going to help.
I'm not going to entertain paranoia about Dumb and Dumber right now because Auro was the one who convinced me to move off your slot and onto murdercat (that, and gamma looking a bit like inflamed town in his argument with d&d)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:50 pm
by YyottaCat
I agree with D&D's assumption that Gamma's slot could be scum. I do find Gamma being quite unnatural and awkward. Other than that, I don't really have strong enough SRs.
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:53 pm
by YyottaCat
In post 1621, catboi wrote: In post 1536, Green Crayons wrote: In post 1506, catboi wrote:FWIW, I still think murdercat's push on yyotta is potentially partner-y but points away from her being the bomb and so would vote elsewhere today.
can you explain this? I just ISO'd MC and I don't think his push looks partner-y, I think it looks like a safe park vote
I thought the push was pretty halfhearted and he backed down rather easily in a way that made it seem like he didn't really want it to go through. However, looking back at him, all his pushes were fairly halfhearted so I don't know how much weight that holds. I wouldn't say it's clearing but not my first choice for a vote.
Scum wouldn't want bomb to get eliminated because that would mean an early loss to them. How is his vote partner-y though? “Halfhearted” doesn't explain it very much.