Newbie 1976 - Game Over

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Think about it, why would scum!me put myself in a situation where i'm put against a town!Ph0enix whom i've townread all game.

And the deciding factor is the guy i shit!pushed 2 days ago.

How did you know i would be the deciding factor?

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Hi again Jackson! Hopefully my slot won't wrongly hammer you in LyLo this time around

Ohhh past!Datisi you dumbass...

Pedit: Norway I know when the statement was made. But it was supposed to show a "scum you last night" thought process, who had no idea I was the Mason.

I still need to think about stuff wrt why Salad was killed. I think it's a weird choice.

Also i think you wanted to throw a bit harsher insult at me there

Ppedit: Norway this day phase lasts 7 days. Why do you think I would vote in like less than 2 hours?

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And since you so strongly TR Saladman he was obviously the kill to be made.

You

strongly TRed me until today, too, so him TRing Salad on previous days would not necessarily have translated into D4 as well.

Phoenix, who is the bolded "you" here supposed to be?

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I didn't get much impression that Norway was TRing Salad...

Anyway time out, I'm out for a bit. I'll catch yall with more questions soon.

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And since you so strongly TR Saladman he was obviously the kill to be made.

You strongly TRed me until today, too, so him TRing Salad on previous days would not necessarily have translated into D4 as well.

Yeah, i figured that out, but excuse my tiredness, i must be misunderstanding this post. Could you rephrase it please?

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And for what it's worth, unless Salad cc'ed my Mason claim, I was never voting him today. So.

It doesn't exactly matter right now though.

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Ah, right, thank you.

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Ok out for real be good my friends

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Or, be well, but that works too i think.

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It's pending a full game reread and stuff, but I do quite enjoy the memes.

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That might be some misplaced confidence coming from someone I spent a good portion of Day 2 calling scum

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Looking back, there is something interesting about Naerys's behaviour during Day 3. Remind me to talk about it more once the day develops a bit.

That's yall cue that I actually wanna see some discussion today.

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Yeah, that speedlynch was very dumb, but hindsight is 20/20 eh

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Both me shitposting and speedhammering was a measure against getting myself nightkilled. I just... Didn't think Kanna would be the one to get killed instead...

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Which one of you sick bastards did that

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Ph0enix, I wanna hear some of your thoughts. Like, first thing that comes to mind. Don't think too much. What's up?

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At first I thought it was because my crumb was found, but it obviously wasn't. Agh, joy, choosing the scum between the two most TRed players in game.

pedit: Don't give me ideas, Norway

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I'm also lowkey angry at the idea that

Ph0enix thinks i'm the easiest player to mislynch here

so nothing would satisfy me more than watching him DIE.

you think he thinks this because....?

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To be fair I was never voting Salad here soooooooooo

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Yeah, I'm still mulling that over.

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I'm not saying that yet. And it was this:

Spoiler:

Pretty much how I start every one of my

m

eetups.

Nope, I was replaced by Ducky! But him and I had similar reads, so I don't think in the end it ended up mattering

a

nyway

p-p-p-pagetop

s

teal

We met back in '63.
And are we really that

o

bvious? :3

You mean why I got force-replaced, or why I replaced in in the first place?

I saw *stuff* that I wasn't supposed to see because of a bug. And I replaced in because there were a few people I wanted to play with, plus I kinda wanted to try to save the game after it got

n

asty.

Why are you so eager to vote someone who's not even had a chance to post so far?

Is the reason you single out Map because his vot put them at L-2? Because GBJ was also voted (before posting) by Salad and

K

anna.

They both have only two posts each. What makes you say they're less scummy

a

lready?

Vote:

N

orwegian

Shame that you rolled scum,

N

orbot :<

Your vote and reasoning strike me as opportunistic.

Btw, I actually

had

been loosely following a couple of games you happened to play in as they were happening. Unfortunately I don't remember much about your play at

a

ll.

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Used it in my last game, ended up turning it around because of that. Was hoping to bait someone into ccing me here.

Ph0enix, you still with us?

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nice nice i'm digging this

gimme some reasons why i should devinitely vote scandinavian dude over flame birb

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> Non not bothering to give reads
> main wagon still being the lynchbait

nice

Hm... if Saladman is green, that´d make Norwegian highly suspicious.
According to JEEP's Tells

Norwegian or Phoenix could be scum

( i know these tells are not rlly considered valid anymore)

Naerys was actually the smartest person in this cursed game tbh

Fuck i was dumb

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The problem is
You both are able to screech "I'm not scum, you are" which doesn't help me at fucking all

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Do i actually have to look at Nomination Mafia ughhhhhhhhhhhh

Phoenix, you have one town game on site right?

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No worries I can find it

and
what do you mean you don't care that much?

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please stop calling each other scum it accomplishes absolutely nothing if you're Town

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ok, similar question to norway
shotgun points why i should be voting flame birb over scandinavia

go

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You claimed first though. There was no way for scum!you to know which one of us is the Mason.

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Norway, I'm kinda skimming through parts of the game, you've been calling Ph0enix "unmistakingly Town" until like late Day 2. Did his play not ping you before?

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There's something wrong in the village
In the village, oh

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There are some things I need to sleep on. I just lost one lylo, I don't want to lose another.

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no worries friends i am still here and reading

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i figured you wouldn't mind that

I'm off to sleep soon too. Are we al Europe-based?

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I hate LYLO

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Haha yeah scum couldn't kill me lol

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Yeah, that actually made me chuckle.

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I'll say that I've made up my mind some 75% already. However, I have a bad experience voting quickly in lylo, so I'm gonna reread the game later.

You two can stop screaming at each other if you want, I'll ping yall if I need anything.

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Don't worry, I'll ask if I need anything. It's probably gonna be a couple of hours though, since I kinda sorta don't feel like rereading right now lol.

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I'm having fun watching you two yell at eachother. But then I remember I have to actually make the choice. Sigh.

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Okay.

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VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

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is that a town sigh or a scum sigh?

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Can I please be put out of my misery here?

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Oh boy.

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You're good, I can't even be mad.

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I have my big brain reaction tests and reasonings in the Mason PT, so I'm not gonna type them out here too much. Can't say anything but gg.

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@mod
no redactions by me, and thank you for modding!

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Man that fucking Mason shot N1 killed my soul. I had such different plans for this game.

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The night after Map got lynched, I sarcastically wrote "inb4 ph0enix is the partner or some shit lmao". Man.

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The way your reads were switching from TRing Naerys at the time it didn't make sense to pushing her out of the blue shortly after you voted Map. You also looked at 1973 Day 1 and said his play seemed similar only to today say it didn't. Also I'll c/p the reaction bullshit

Spoiler:

Okay, I reread the Day 1, I think I'll take a break to type up what the "reaction test" was for posterity's sake.

So, after Map got lynched, I went through their play and found that they were voting Naerys for a good part of Day 1. Nothing wrong with some distancing. But I thought that if that distancing was planned, that Naerys would bring it up during the next day as part of her defense, i.e. "Map was voting me here, so we're not partners!".

When she

didn't

bring that up, I started worrying, but since nobody else made sense to me (believed in the Salad TR, and didn't think Map got bussed), I decided to ignore the test altogether. Then Naerys flipped Green.

Map wolf voted both Norway and Jackson during Day 1. So I figured let's try again. I asked them both "short reason why I should vote the other person." Because since both partners were bussers, you'd think scum would try to use that to their advantage?

I very much don't like his constant vote switching (especially referring to D2).

He accuses me of voting Map Wolf late even though he himself wasn't sure about Map for the most of D2 as he was busy suspecting you, Salad and also Naerys. How he suddenly stopped pushing you and started trying elsewhere I still don't get, either.

The 180 flip on Naerys makes no sense whatsoever. Either his accusation doesn't make sense, or his townread in the first place.

Phoenix's reply tries to tell me why Norway's behaviour is off.

Well, this post is something worth looking at:

VOTE: Norwegian
Don't really like 67 and 75. I don't see how GBJ finding you suspicious makes him scum.

Sure he unvoted immediately, but that's definitely not something a scum partner would do.

Literally the first thing Norway mentiones is "Map voted me ergo we're not partners".

pedit: oh hey Mena is here what a surprise
yeah Day 3 was very fucking dumb of me, as described up here
not like my method ended up helping me but fuck that's what happens when datisi is conftown in lylo

ppedit: okay cool at least i wasn't alone :')

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Why were you in the dead thread anyway?

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I think D3 was probably what ultimately lost this for town

I should have tried harder to persuade
But i doubt it would work.

Maybe it would've
I was very dumb for trying to rush that lynch but I was genuinely second guessing myself
it's just that nobody else made sense as the partner

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*sigh*

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And also your push of me and Salad Day 2 like why Norway why

Though I'm not too unhappy with my play here. I managed to turn the Day 2 lynch around at least.

pedit: sorry Kanna i screwed up D:

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Somehwere like early Day 4 I thought "hm Norway sounds like Town, this is scum!ph0enix actually, their vote of putting Map to L-1

really

reminds me of when scum!me bussed my partner to L-1"

but i had that thought for grand total of 4.5 minutes

fuck

pedit: awwwww
Kanna you have no idea how devastated I was
like
no
idea

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Wait, dead thread was spoiled as to who the other Mason was? Awww, wanted to see if they would've read me correctly

Also, were the Non and Salad kills actually attempts at the Mason? If so, I used two people as the human shield... And then Hammered wrong...

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Also yes yes can confirm!!

Hope I can share a pt with her again </3

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What's this a reply to?

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Of course, because who else would keep talking to themself in the empty PT

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I thought it was salad bc he seemed the most sceptical of the non claim, but you were my second choice

Tbh I am kinda glad that I managed to at least do this right

because truth be told I actually wanted to roll scum this game

and when I saw i was a Mason i was like "lol okay I'm gonna distance and coach and create fake tells with my partner anyway"

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Wasn't it cause I SRd map and poked Phoenix?

Oh

Maybe

Yeah, I actually didn't check Kanna's last reads until after Map got lynched

because some of our reads were *gasp* fake and i was going by what she wrote in the PT instead of what she wrote in the main thread

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I thought it was salad bc he seemed the most sceptical of the non claim, but you were my second choice

Tbh I am kinda glad that I managed to at least do this right

because

truth be told I actually wanted to roll scum this game

and when I saw i was a Mason i was like "lol okay I'm gonna distance and coach and create fake tells with my partner anyway"

R u okay

I replaced in during the slaughter that was Guns and Roses III

I am sick and tired of playing Town and living to endgame and then being in lylo and having the entire dead thread look at me be fucking stupid

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Ye, maybe "fake" reads weren't the smartest choice
with how TRed we were at the time I thought we were likely to eat a NK so

idk, if my reads were better it could've worked out maybe. I didn't want to play Mason the ~traditional~ way. I just need to stop being a fucking idiot lol

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Mod just told me Norway was town so like i don't even know anything anymore

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so far my track record is
> never lost a 1v1 as either alignment
> never hammered right in lylo

n i c e

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Sorry about Day 3 Naerys, your play actually wasn't bad

Imo the only thing to learn is never self-hammer like that
trust me, I've been in that same position when the whole game thinks you're scum
don't give them the satisfaction

I'm getting front row tickets to watch Norway/Hectic and Mena 1000%

I'm also gonna be there so

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Yeah
I saw that post when rereading and thought "holy shit is this a page 2 solve"

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Hm. Reading both the Dead and Mafia PT's, I'm kinda glad we managed to play in the way that nobody realized who the other Mason is, and that I was able to make them shoot traditionally more mislynchable players.

Just sucks it wasn't enough and my reads were crap as usual.

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Ok. Why did you think my defense of Salad was scummy? I was correct.

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Mason -

Town Mason

- Endgamed

i'm sorry what