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My whole argument was that scum was controlling the game

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I'm not crazy right? Like Norwee's vote there was 0% critical thinking 100% opportunism. He didn't ask why I would be saying that or what it means or anything, he just went "wrong/insulting = TIME TO VOTE"

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I mean, no. But if you're claiming that your town game includes 0 critical thinking then you'd have to be scum here because you sure have been appearing to do it.

Can you explain the vote?

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It wasn't that you were impulsive. It was that your impulse is exactly the thing that scum wants (kill us before we actually start to effort), and a vote as an impulsive reaction to an insult doesn't make sense because my claim had nothing to do with alignment.

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Yes. You sound scummy.

Okay, why

What is my scum motivation for posting literally anything I've posted today

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You've played with ME before. Is this really what my scum game looks like?

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There is literally no way Norwee has done nothing this day.

I'm aware.

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Are you saying i somehow used brainpower to process that i’d better kill you fast because you were apparently about to effort?

No I'm saying you're helping scum. May or may not have been on purpose.

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Yea limit I feel like mastina is more likely deepwolf than GCB.

Why have 0 people listened to her all game then

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Mastina as scum pushes things that make sense.

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Well i dunno. You just sound like you’re trying to say a lot of meaningless things and bring out lots of shade and it’s like ok… what are you even doing? What’s your point?

My point is to raise awareness of the fact that this game is going terribly and try to figure out what to do about it.

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Not to mention your arguments just SOUND scummy. Like they’re straight from the scum textbook.

Lol you don't get to play the "have you played with me before" card and then say this. I don't play scum at all like a regular person, and you should know that? Wasn't I scum against you in IV's game?

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Bingle almost went through on mastina just saying "scum claim" lol

I'm gonna venture a guess that that was not the main reason.

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Okay well regardless Norwee. Irrespective of what you think scum me would do here, what do you think TOWN me would do here? You don't think I would feel that scum control the game when nobody has been able to get wagons anywhere and nobody can agree and we are the top wagon?

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Were you?

I was.

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Why wouldn’t it also mean that it’s hard to get an lim because the mafia don’t vote each other? If all scum was in a townblock it should be pretty easy to reach consensus on an weaker mislimmable town.

But like, if scum were actually worried about protecting a partner, then they would have a vested interest in pushing through an execution on a townie. Whereas if they're in a good spot they don't have to, they can just let town eat itself alive. We've been in this state for so long that the natural conclusion is that scum don't care to push anything through.

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It really was.

Hmm. Maybe I should go back and look at who sheeped on that.

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Recased, not reached. Fuck autocorrect.

Lol, I though reached made perfect sense

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I thought that, even.

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Do you understand my point of view now?

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SS are you arguing that scum is just widely town or that scum is controlling the game state? Gcb only really fits into the former.

The latter.

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Pls do not deadsheep Titus

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Also saying that Norwe posted no content which is uh false.

Being wrong is scum because?

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Like actually, what's the link there. If I'm scum I have two partners to tell me stuff. If I'm town all I have is lilith who's tilted out of her mind and a bunch of pages that I haven't read because I've been obsessed with my new Switch.

Sure you can make the argument that I could fake disengagement, because I have done that before as scum, but calling it scummy feels pretty insane.

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The word lying comes to mind.

Oh what a 1000 IQ play! I know, I'll tell them Norwee has no content even though I know it isn't true. They'll never suspect a thing!

Come off it.

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Like seriously you played scum with me. Am I that garbage of a scum player that I just make random things up and expect people to believe it?

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Probably shouldn't leave my stupid protest vote on Norwee, in any event.

VOTE: T3

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Bungle you should join us on T3

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M e t a b a d

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Okay Datisi but T3 just scumclaimed. Please get with the times

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did you not think he's scum anymore or...?

No and even if I did, it wouldn't be because of Titus

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I'm confused about what you're asking. I don't care about what Titus's reads were, sheeping them is not a good idea.

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Not like this.

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I just didn’t like your general tone cus it felt fake ish.

What exactly felt fake?

I think I'm pretty much impossible to read on tone at this point.

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Also, please people, do not sleep on 2224. I'm reasonably confident that that is just a slam dunk.

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If someone lol hammers us then please send every pain potion on the planet toward them. Then execute T3.

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maybe the issue is i don't even know which has is being reminded of THAT GAME (and implications are very different depending on which game that is)

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You know... that game.

(I have no idea either)

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I’m not just gonna change my vote though.
Slam dunk my ass. I wanna see what they have to say.

I mean there's actual proof that T3 doesn't believe that overt falsehoods are scummy. I don't know what else you would need or what kind of explanation would save it.

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So why is this different?

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I mean people scumclaim as town all the time, but yes.

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so how sure are you that t3 is scum again?

I mean it's the best lead this game by a very long shot. It doesn't have to be perfect.

"all the time" was an exaggeration, of course. Obviously it wouldn't be called a scumclaim if it weren't by scum more on average.

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It's not absolutely true like modconf info or claiming that someone said something when they didn't.

Yes I realize what's literally different about it. It's still, I assume, a plainly visible fact that's not up for debate. So why does the same logic not even come close to applying?

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I've never seen SS claim to be "sure" of anything in his life so this is a new experience.

Did I say that here? I didn't mean to.

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I am very very confident that T3 is the best person to execute here. I suppose that is rare, so fair enough.

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Provable[/v] eg. x flipped town but they actually flipped scum or
x claimed odd night not even night

Out of curiosity T3. WHY do you believe provable lies are NAI?

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is the only reason the "scumclaim" or is there more to it?

It's the main reason. The shot on me is also a bit of it because given how close scum are to winning it makes sense for them to shoot people who won't be watched/protected.

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Well that + scum are way more likely to shoot at night.

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I don't really understand the progression from T3 town, t3 NAI, t3 i dont know to T3 is lockscum lets kill him?

Oh no someone I had no read on did something scummy and now I scumread him, what a weird progression

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Provable[/v] eg. x flipped town but they actually flipped scum or
x claimed odd night not even night

Out of curiosity T3. WHY do you believe provable lies are NAI?

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@T3

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So what part of that doesn't hold for making a subjective statement that obviously nobody will agree with? Do you think that I didn't realize nobody would agree with it?

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...but I

didn't

. If that was my plan why didn't I go through with it?

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On what?

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Like, if my plan was to say that Norwee was fluffing, then presumably the idea would be respond to "he isn't doing nothing" with "actually, he's fluffing". If nobody responded that way (unlikely), I wouldn't have to have another excuse prepared.

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GG

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love this look for yall. really i do. mastina’s case on us was actually insane. yall do remember that she was using meta based on

hearsay

of my play and now we’re a policy elim so tomorrow she can be like “no wait! I didn’t say they had to be scum though!”

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Oh i thought you were just scum when you said gg like that.
Are you claiming to not be?

guess you have to wait and find out.

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I am fully aware that you could be town and I could be wrong.

are you though?

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no comment on using meta based on hearsay?

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also, the fuck do you think I’m posting here for if we’re scum?

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no one would listen so I don’t see the point. I’ve been calling gcb scum for weeks and no one has bothered to engage with that. also frankly I don’t really care whether town wins, because I’m feeling real spiteful about this whole game.

lilith is not a slot that I know much about, lacking much history there but for some reason I seem to recall hearing that lilith is very very easily obvtown when she is town, that she has a very easy time displaying herself to be town, and that is utterly absent from this game. Both to me, and largely, to others who can read her.

how is it disingenuous to say that you used meta based on hearsay? you were using this as a reason to scumread me when you have no idea yourself what my play does or doesn’t look like.

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also guess what, when people call me obvtown

I’m behaving exactly as I behaved this game.

which further cements scum!gcb to me because datisi should fucking know that. and is the reason you shouldn’t be using meta that you don’t even actually KNOW.

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everything about mastina’s case on us is designed to shift the blame away from her on our miselim. she was just using meta she heard from other people! it was the best miselim for town! and the rest of it was a nullcase. absolutely awful.

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first miselim since 2016. it’s a tragedy. glad to be finally out of this soul sucking game though.

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I’d say good luck but I’m not really sure if I’d mean it.

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most people were fine, you included. I’m just so frustrated that any post I ever made was just automatically called scummy by datisi and mastina, and then expressing my frustration was called fake. what am I supposed to do with that?

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Part of my idea there was that you probably shouldn't live to xlo. I'm kinda annoyed that this game is going like this because it feels like there is so much stall and inertia that nothing can be done about and I feel like I've PoE'd decently but when it feels like the entire game is against what I'm solving this as it's hard to not just say fuck it we need a flip to reeval

I can’t even disagree, I was pretty sure we needed to die anyway.

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ok bye.

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sorry. can’t play when it’s not enjoyable. and getting called scum every time I say something for no fucking reason and then being called scum for my reaction to it is really unenjoyable.