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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:51 pm
by DrippingGoofball
And here Zoidberg wanted me dead:

Zoidberg wrote:DGB

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:52 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Zoidberg wrote:Remaining ones were players I thought were pro-town AND reasonably likely to survive the night.


Why did you target the claimed cop on NIGHT 4, given that rationale?

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:57 pm
by Zoidberg
DrippingGoofball wrote:Or maybe <insert any completely fabricated reason here>?
Yes, from your perspective I suppose that's valid.

[/quote]What about all the other targets?[/quote]What about them?

DrippingGoofball wrote:I'm asking because I don't remember you finding me all that "pro-town."
I did until you tried to paint me as scum with completely faulty logic (which you then twisted into a defence of SPBs) and then shrugged it off with an "oh lols i wasnt reading the thread silly me"

DrippingGoofball wrote:Why did you target the claimed cop on NIGHT 4, given that rationale?
I would think it would be obvious.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:15 pm
by Zoidberg
Sir Elton Hercules John wrote:Kawaii [David Bowie], Mod Mason, was handcuffed to the bed and skullfucked to death N5


What is a mod mason?

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:32 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Zoidberg wrote:I would think it would be obvious.


Maybe it's because I'm stupid, but I have no idea.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:37 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Zoidberg wrote:And Zoraster who's 4th on your silly scale is basically confirmed town.


Yet Zoidberg never targetted zoraster.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:12 pm
by Zoidberg
Why aren't you voting me, then?

Why are you dragging out this preposterous charade?

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:52 pm
by DrippingGoofball
I'm trying to make a careful decision.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:53 pm
by Magua
I don't think Zoidberg is mafia. This breaks down to two reasons:

- Unless there's more than one mafia left alive, with Iecerint having confirmed getting the dick text last Night, I do not believe Zoidberg could have performed the kill. I don't believe there's more than one mafia left alive. So.
- D1 votes from the Mafia onto Zoidberg do not seem like bussing.

Meanwhile, vollkan pops up, posts what is essentially "lulz" and then goes.

As long as someone can verify having received Zoidberg's dick texts the next Day, I see no reason to lynch him.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:00 am
by vollkan
DrippingGoofball wrote:
vollkan wrote:
I think ive only been SK once, and I dont remember it.
Not an argument.


i never fabricate rl excuses - i consider it unfair
You're an honest guy, I would actually trust you on this one.


what about it needs explaining?


Your normal playstyle does involve a certain scarcity of posts but in this game you've been singularly uninvolved and the quality of your posts is uncharacteristically very, very poor.

It's not stuff you can argue away logically, we're talking about meta reasons.

I'd still like to see what you'd come up with if you plunged in the pool. Any chance you can do this during this game-day?


all going well, i get my new computer tomorrow evening. realistically speaking, though, i just wont have the time to do a complete reread or anything (frankly, apart from everything else with tech issues lately, i just dont have the same time available that i used to back at uni - but ill at least be able to catch up properly

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:10 am
by zoraster
gah. need to get on this. been putting it off because I know it's going to involve actual work. Easy mode is now off, sadly. Do we have any outstanding night action activity that we know about (other than obviously the kills) or have they all been resolved by the death of members?

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:40 am
by TheTrollie
TheTrollie wrote:now im up for either zoid or DGB


tell me when someone is able to get behind one of these

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:42 am
by dramonic
I'm under the impression people seem in favour of your Zoidberg mislynch.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:06 am
by Iecerint
Magua wrote:- Unless there's more than one mafia left alive, with Iecerint having confirmed getting the dick text last Night, I do not believe Zoidberg could have performed the kill. I don't believe there's more than one mafia left alive. So.

Scum can usually action + NK if they're the last one left, so I don't think the presence of dicktexts makes Zoidberg town -- it just confirms that his action is to send dicktexts (which we knew anyway). (Also, that was vollkan, not me.)
Magua wrote:- D1 votes from the Mafia onto Zoidberg do not seem like bussing.

Will check this.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:18 am
by DrippingGoofball
I've extracted these two votecounts that have votes for Zoidberg.

votecount, post 1651

Wyrd
- 2 (Nobody Special,
Slumberpartybois
)
One Direction - 4 (DrippingGoofball, dramonic, kuribo, Iecerint)
Zoidberg - 3 (
Ythan
, Om of the Nom,
ThunderHog
)
ThunderHog
- 6 (vollkan, zoraster, Gammagooey, Zoidberg,
Wyrd
, Kawaii)
DrippingGoofball - 2 (One Direction, Pretentiousdra)

votecount, post 1675

Wyrd
- 3 (Nobody Special,
Slumberpartybois, ThunderHog
)
One Direction - 4 (DrippingGoofball, dramonic, kuribo, Iecerint)
Zoidberg - 1 (
Ythan
)
ThunderHog
- 7 (vollkan, zoraster, Gammagooey, Zoidberg,
Wyrd
, Kawaii, Om of the Nom)
Kawaii - 1 (BT)
Pretentiousdra - 1 (DeltaWave)
DrippingGoofball - 2 (One Direction, Pretentiousdra)

There was a lot of bus'ing and distancing, that's for sure.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:18 am
by DrippingGoofball
Magua wrote:- D1 votes from the Mafia onto Zoidberg do not seem like bussing.


I'd like you to expand on that.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:32 am
by Iecerint
Is that really all that ever came of the D1 Zoidberg wagon? I guess it's just that I wanted to lynch him during the first half of my readthrough.

Here's the Ythan stuff. The gist is that he does devote a lot of posts to Zoidberg, but a lot of it is pretty coach-y AFAICT, so I dunno if volume is where Magua was coming from, but.
Spoiler:
Ythan wrote:
Zoidberg wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:ALL I HAVE IS HAMMERS
SO I'M DISHING IT OUT LIKE ITS CHRISTMAS MOTHER FUCKING DAY

Nachomamma8 wrote:ALL I HAVE IS HAMMERS
AND WHEN I HAMMER IT IS GOING TO BE FABULOUS

so don't let nobody get to L-1
nobody

Nachomamma8 wrote:like, don't pull any L-1 claim business no
in this game there's an intent to L-1
because as soon as that L-1 comes, I'm on it
might be gay but i AINT NO BITCH


You can stop breadcrumbing now.

I don't even get the point of this post.

Zoidberg wrote:Holy fuck the signal:noise ratio in here is REALLY low.

Or this one.

Zoidberg wrote:
Drench wrote:hey zoidberg what do you think about the whole trollie v. bois thing


Honestly I'm still trying to parse it, and it's making my head hurt. Currrently I'd stand in line for an SPBz lynch before a Trollie lynch, though.

Why?

Zoidberg wrote:
SlumberPartyBois wrote:well dont keep it a secret darling, share them with us! i am very interested in every single one of your reads : )


+1

For someone who complains about noise and +1s transparency you're not being very useful.

Zoidberg wrote:
Om of the Nom wrote:Ythan what are these profile activity observations actually achieving?


Nothing, unless he srsly expects the first 8 pages of drivel to yield much.

This is bad.

vote Zoidberg

Ythan wrote:
Zoidberg wrote:
Ythan wrote:Why?


Because I find bois to be marginally more scum than Trollie? I would think that would be self-evident. :roll:

Why? Don't be dumb.

Ythan wrote:
Zoidberg wrote:
Ythan wrote:Why? Don't be dumb.
I've already outlined it. Don't be dumb.

Contrary to Om I think there's exactly one scum between Trollie and Bois. As I outlined before, to me it reads like Bois was pushing for a quick hammer using faulty meta. Especially in light of the way he STFU real quick once Trollie claimed. I notice with great interest that you skimmed right over that part in your attempt to paint me as scum.

Your read is fabricated and your attempt to smear me is pathetic.

Also I directly referenced the incident you're referring to here btw.

Ythan wrote:
Zoidberg wrote:
Ythan wrote:Don't just jump back to the one post suggesting you not be lynched it just looks like you're not even taking the game seriously.


Post more irrelevant stuff about who was online when.

Not one post I have made in this game was less relevant than this one of yours. You're just lashing out with no useful motivation.

Ythan wrote:
Zoidberg wrote:I notice with great interest that you skimmed right over that part in your attempt to paint me as scum.

This is literally a scum claim are you even serious.

Here's Thunderhog's. The gist is that he voted Zoidberg for unclear reasons and then revoted him when I asked him who he thought was scum.
Spoiler:
ThunderHog wrote:
kuribo wrote:Yeah, this post can die too.

Huh?! How can a post die? Not sure
exactly
what you mean...

Ythan wrote:Bad.
If this is what you were trying to say Kuribo, then now I understand. Could've just went all caveman and said it like this...

ThunderHog wrote:p-edit 2: Geez guys, shut up so I can post!!! As much as I think BT is scummy, I'm soon going to be willing to move my vote to Zoid. I'll readdress my case against BT at a later date if need-be.

Soon but not now?

Good point.

Unvote: BT; Vote: Zoid
[/quote]
ThunderHog wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:(1) Large theme
(2) Reck game
(3) NS has basically fessed 3rd party

(4) A hammertime alternative wincon

I'm assuming multiball until proof I'm wrong.

Wait a minute... In reference to the bolded part, did you mean "NM", or did you actually mean NS? If you meant NS, can you point out where, cuz I'm not seeing it...

I mean, NS said he was town and that his blatant sarcasm was 'role-related'. No where did he mention third party...

and...

If you actually meant NM, then why can't NM just be a town with only hammers?

SlumberPartyBois wrote:I've already started falling behind in this and finals are mon-thurs so I'm anticipating it's only gonna get worse, so
V/LA til Friday

Aren't you a hydra though? You're telling me that both / all of you are V/LA until Friday? I find that rather difficult to believe...

Other than that, have some one-liner and random reads:

OD = Town lean - I really don't see why there are so many votes there.
NM = Town slightly-further-than-leaning - Despite low post count, actually seems to be scumhunting. Seems to be one of the only ones too...
Kawaii = An arrogant jerkoff. I'm gonna put you in the same column as P-dra.

Since Iec seems to demand I place a vote, I'm going to put it right back where it was before.

Vote: Zoid

Magua, please specify what I am missing.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:20 am
by Zoidberg
need more dramonic votes

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:48 am
by Iecerint
Zoidberg, dram is probably not mafia. Look at his iso, in particular his vote for SPB yesterday. That's not something you do D5 when you've already lost several scumfriends.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:53 am
by dramonic
The more this goes on the more I want to lynch zoid just to make sure he isnt there to throw in endgame.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:18 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Magua wrote:vollkan started the Thunderhog wagon D1, so I give him credit there. Ythan wagon D2/D3 was because of PR report so null. Beyond that his contribution to the game drops off the map, and is all just asking questions and doing nothing with it. No analysis, no real stances. Claims voteless D5, but that's really no excuse. Just spends all his time talking minutiae about DGB's messages.


Come to think of it, is anyone going to own up to removing vollkan's vote, and reducing the lynch threshold during DW vs. SPB?

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:48 pm
by Zoidberg
Zoidberg wrote:What is a
mod
mason?

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:08 pm
by DrippingGoofball
The votechanger isn't the following:

04. Iecerint
05. zoraster
09. dramonic
14. Zoidberg

17. vollkan
22. Magua BT
23. TheTrollie
24. DrippingGoofball

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:42 pm
by Iecerint
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=4685034#p4685034]post 3422[/url], DrippingGoofball & Iecerint wrote:The votechanger isn't the following:

04. Iecerint

05. zoraster
09. dramonic
14. Zoidberg

17. vollkan
22. Magua BT
23. TheTrollie
24. DrippingGoofball

It could also have been SPB (flipped JOAT).

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:38 pm
by DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball wrote:The votechanger isn't the following:

04. Iecerint

05. zoraster
09. dramonic
14. Zoidberg

17. vollkan
22. Magua BT
23. TheTrollie
24. DrippingGoofball


We have a vollkan without a vote, a reduced lynch-threshold, and if I recall, a double vote (not sure).

Doesn't sound like JOAT.