Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:12 am
Obviously I feel like bv would be the better vote but I have no objections.
https://forum.mafiascum-staging.net/
This post still sums up my thoughts.In post 3296, Gustavo wrote:I didn’t think I was the NK target. I thought shos was stupid to save me. I honestly felt I’m being saved for lylo. My gut says one of the claims is fake. I’ve searched the archived games and when scum has an encryptor, scum never have a neighborizer. I found one game where scum had a BP RBer and an encryptor and town had a neighborizer but I actually can see errant being scum here. He had a vote on tw and he was late and no reason. He had a vote on mom that’s again was late and no reason.
I don’t really have a read on skitter yet but nobody else seems to think he’s scum so it’s not worth looking there I guess. I will before the day ends.
So if we can eliminate skitter, We need to either lynch one of those bv/ errant today or lynch me and y’all deal with which one of the remaining tomorrow.
Logic says bv today. My heart/gut says it’s errant.
We obviously have time so when I have more of it I’ll do some more reading.
huhIn post 3401, Irrelephant11 wrote:I want EP to provide deeper reads on Gustavo and BV but for the record I retract ~2/3 of my stungun townread, after finishing this game
Gustavo is now my fav lynch. I'm not trying to rush this game day but I'll leave my vote on whoever I'm leaning toward for now
In post 3374, Keyser Söze wrote:This ignorance/derp moment actually feels legit. Surely scum-BV would have been up to date with TW’s scum gambit to fake a guilty on his partner... or at least come prepared to fake some theatre?In post 2776, BlackVoid wrote:3. Can you quote where exactly either Errant or TheWorst said that TheWorst had a result on me?
Both of these are actually really strong reasons to TR Blackvoid...In post 3294, BlackVoid wrote: I wasn't trying to make you paranoid of Nauci. I actually really nailed behaviors of Nauci's that came from an informed perspective. Her suspicion of me. Her read on Irrelephant. Her claiming that you were mindmelding with her while never trying to see eye to eye on those reads. I was wrong about why she was informed. But I really don't think I'd be capable of looking at the game so deeply that I'd spot legitimate informed-tells from townies as scum.
Why does scum-stungun broadcast this to everyone?In post 428, stungun0404 wrote:eh, i want a clear majority on a player whose not given much substantial content (as in townreads and such), so i’m absolutely not passing up this opportunity.
VOTE: Momrangal
Momrangal is now at L-3, so this slot could only probably fit one more vote for our purposes as of right now, but absolutely no more than that.
In post 293, skitter30 wrote:I'm coming around to town on stungun
Math is sketchy.
Keyset is a slight townlean, but not as strongly as a lot of people are making him out to be.
I'm re-evaliating shoshin; still dont like her RVS but I like her more recent posts (esp 273 iirc)
I dont really like momrangel or gamma.
I dont think I have strong opinions on anyone else atm. Or at least, if I do, it's not coming to mind.
In post 295, skitter30 wrote:I'm not sure if scum!you jumps into the thread confidently voting someone that is being largely townread.
In post 303, skitter30 wrote:duckling, you're kinda gut-pinging me as scum btw
In post 325, skitter30 wrote:I'm kinda tending towards there actually tbh.
I really didn't like how he approached the gemini slot given newbie 1872.
I'm kinda waiting for him to talk about it and I'm willing to give him some time for a benefit-of-doubt thing.
I agree that the gimmick may be what's weird about him right now, but continuing that when people have said it's making him hard to read is :/
He was scum in a hydra in open 710 but he repped out pretty early after his partner repped out
1) He's good at distancingIn post 351, skitter30 wrote:math when you read I do want you to elaborate on your gemini thoughtsIn post 345, Mathdino wrote:You expect me to lead when I still gotta read
I don't see a need, laying low is my creed
from that newbie game on his scumbuddy about 80 posts before he actually votes him (his later vote put him at L-2; he avoids L-1 here)In post 137, stungun0404 wrote:sure, of all the presently-backed wagons that i don’t have my vote on, the ones that appeal the most to me are platfleece, wingedcatgirl and espeonage.
espeonage, for an ic, i feel has put out very little readable game content—which concerns me. ic’s should be demonstrative by how they play the game themselves—which would then perhaps having an effect of rubbing off on newbies.
platfleece feels like a potential newbie scum slot to me, but has 3 votes already and i don’t feel comfortable enough about my assertion to place them at L-1.
wingedcatgirl has given 3 votes already with very little substance as backing, and is notably classified as an SE in this game. so, i’d like to see more there.
for now, i’ll VOTE: Espeonage
In post 969, Gustavo wrote:It’s like a huge misrep on your part. The worst’s question was valid. He doesn’t have to deny that it was fake. You have the burden of proof to prove it was fake. Innocent until proven guiltyIn post 964, Shoshin wrote:What's your confusion?In post 956, Gustavo wrote:I don’t even know how you reached that conclusion...In post 818, Shoshin wrote:Even this way of defending himself is bullshit. I call something fake, and his response is, "you don't know me well enough to know it's fake." He's not even denying that it's fake... instead he just wants to discredit me...In post 814, the worst wrote:uh pardon me since when do you know me well enough that you can tell what's fake from me? o.0
In post 970, Gustavo wrote:VOTE: shoshin
He’s not a team player. I ask him a few questions and he flails and votes me. By his own definition of what scum is, he’s guilty of being scum.
I’ll see y’all day 2.
In post 975, Gustavo wrote:That’s wifom my friend. I don’t have time to play the wifom game. His iso reeks, his vote on nauci was opportunistic and he refused to explain why, he had doubt yet he stayed on.In post 971, the worst wrote:does this not strike you as a situation scum!Shoshin would try to avoid being in though?
To me that’s scum. I’ll log off and do the rest of my reading and take notes on my own time but for now I have no interest in voting nauci. Have no interest in voting you. I’ll develop more reads later.
Look at Gustavo’s entrance:In post 984, Gustavo wrote:I’m just here to deny I misrepped shoshin. I find it kind of hypocritical since he misrepped the worst.
I’d also like to say my scum game is nothing like my play so far this game and in both of those games he linked, sho did provide some sort of explanation for his vote or reads.
Disagree. He deserved the pressure on him. He payed very scummyIn post 3414, Keyser Söze wrote:Gustavos case and push on shos was ugly to witness and read
That’s dumb tho. Regardless what happens this game going forward drop this kind of thinking nIn post 3416, Irrelephant11 wrote:I'm finding his lack of motivation here pretty in line with my scumread too honestly
This to me?In post 3418, skitter30 wrote:can you elaborate on your read on me a bit more?
Indeed. I’ve read up to the start on D2 now... Gustavo was very aggressive AND made many very wrong stances:In post 1710, Gustavo wrote:Well I can’t help but be aggressive. That’s how I play
Yes I do.In post 3420, skitter30 wrote:do *you* think i'm scummy tho?
(ie independant of how everyone else is reading me)
I think I’ve only been scum once and the entire team stayed quiet and let town eat themselves.In post 3421, Keyser Söze wrote:Show me a scum game Gustavo has been guilty of getting his hands so bloody with his aggressive playstyle and sub optimal decisions.
so you're basically just resigned to losing to me if i'm scum?In post 3422, Gustavo wrote:Yes I do.In post 3420, skitter30 wrote:do *you* think i'm scummy tho?
(ie independant of how everyone else is reading me)