Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[fferyllt]

Obviously relational tells don't come into play here, but:

1) General acerbity that I have come to associate with his towngame is present
2) Quickness of countermanding what 5-off had claimed about the slot along with post 3308 I think point to town and not just 'not groupscum'
3) Seems to actually be interested in narrowing the lynch pool where I would expect an SK to possibly go with the flow on a day like today where lynching anybody but him is generally good

I asked you why you thought Majiffy was head and shoulders better than Anatole today, and I would like you to talk about that now.
You still think Majiffy is groupscum, no?

-b

I don't think he's "head and shoulders" better. I feel like Anatole is a little more likely to be an SK.

Have you played with scum-majiffy and seen a lack of acerbity?

Your 2 is a good point.

I haven't really seen 3 but I'll go back and look for it.

[fferyllt]

Anatole did you respond to these?

Is anyone reading my info dump spam analysis anymore? Bolding this so it won't be missed:

@ Anatole

Cutty, did you vig FT?

I though YOU were the vig. Why did you ask this question?

I honestly thought you were a vig after day 1

This too. You "honestly" thought that they were a vig?

[Anatole Kuragin]

I thought F-16 was just being deliberately obtuse because he keeps asking me shit that's already been covered

[fferyllt]

point me at where it was covered.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't know how much more basic I can make this:

there was a non-mafia kill and we had no reason to assume SK over vig
his flavor is action star
I knew at least one other vig was in the game

[Anatole Kuragin]

From any other player a vig claim would be very suspect, but from a confirmed "action star" it makes a lot of sense.

[fferyllt]

I don't see how those points add up to "hey there's another vig in the game".

[Anatole Kuragin]

They add up to enough of a possibility that I might say "hey are you vig?" so we don't chase our tail looking for an SK.

[fferyllt]

And I don't understand how a magician would be a vig.

[fferyllt]

prestidigitation. misdirection. what you think you see is not what you see.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't see how those points add up to "hey there's another vig in the game".

Like, what part of anything that I've said, especially in the quoted text, implied that I ever declared or acted as though I was sure there was another vig? You and F-16 are really frustrating because you're either oblivious to everything I'm saying or you're trying really hard to twist innocuous thing to fit a narrative you've already decided on.

[Anatole Kuragin]

And I don't understand how a magician would be a vig.

I think it's invoking a Joker-esque play on the phrase magic trick. Like, I can shove a pencil (or camera) into someone's brain through sleight of hand.

[fferyllt]

I don't see how those points add up to "hey there's another vig in the game".

Like, what part of anything that I've said, especially in the quoted text, implied that I ever declared or acted as though I was sure there was another vig? You and F-16 are really frustrating because you're either oblivious to everything I'm saying or you're trying really hard to twist innocuous thing to fit a narrative you've already decided on.

Ok. I'm not implying you were "sure". So, how about "Hey there might be another vig."

You asked cutty if they were a vig.

[fferyllt]

And I don't understand how a magician would be a vig.

I think it's invoking a Joker-esque play on the phrase magic trick. Like, I can shove a pencil (or camera) into someone's brain through sleight of hand.

Is this description something similar to how your ability was described in your role pm?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Can we just take five seconds to stop and think about what you guys are assuming about my hypothetical scumplay:

I got some hint or outside info that items were included OR have some extra item-related role (because that makes more sense to the balance of this setup than a vig being present to you guys)

I assumed nobody would ever give me an item so that I wouldn't have to answer the question "hey, where's your vig kill?" while simultaneously hard-bussing my two partners. While BEGGING for someone to give me an item - this would have been a death sentence if I couldn't carry out the vig kill

[Anatole Kuragin]

And I don't understand how a magician would be a vig.

I think it's invoking a Joker-esque play on the phrase magic trick. Like, I can shove a pencil (or camera) into someone's brain through sleight of hand.

Is this description something similar to how your ability was described in your role pm?

there is nothing flavory about the description of my vig kill unless you include the bit about divine intervention

[Cutty Shark]

I knew at least one other vig was in the game

?

[Cutty Shark]

Like, what part of anything that I've said, especially in the quoted text, implied that I ever declared or acted as though I was sure there was another vig?

??

[Anatole Kuragin]

I knew at least one other vig was in the game

?

as in, I knew I was a vig so a vig role was a possibility

[Anatole Kuragin]

Like, what part of anything that I've said, especially in the quoted text, implied that I ever declared or acted as though I was sure there was another vig?

??

Can you use some fucking words so I know what you're asking?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Like, what part of anything that I've said, especially in the quoted text, implied that I ever declared or acted as though I was sure there was another vig?

??

Can you use some fucking words so I know what you're asking?

< has a case of the mondays

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Obviously relational tells don't come into play here, but:
2) Quickness of countermanding what 5-off had claimed about the slot along with post 3308 I think point to town and not just 'not groupscum'
-b

Your 2 is a good point.

I disagree. Something felt odd about the way he retracted the gambit. Town-Majiffy doesn't read the game upon replacing in. Scum-Majiffy would have cause to read his predecessor's ISO/scum topic and figure out if his predecessor made any claims that need to be addressed.

[Cutty Shark]

That's not what happened though; he was reacting to a summary of the claims I had posted somewhere around the current page we were on and corrected it. That wasn't contingent on reading 5-off's ISO at all

-b

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

It is possible Anatole is town for calling me obtuse regarding my questions about his role. To him, his role seems so clear and obvious that he thinks people who are unclear or don't understand it are the ones that are obtuse as opposed to his story having holes. That's a town mindset.

Well, it is also possible he is actually scum and I winded up pushing him on something non-alignment indicative and he doesn't feel it is "fair" for him to get lynched for the wrong reasons. But I think it could be town.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Updated w/ Flavor

Interns

Baboon Pride <Intern> (Mafia Neighbor)

FourTrouble <Intern> (Town Neighbor)

- killed by murder flavor

Lissa <Intern> (Town Neighbor)

- killed by murder flavor
Majiffy <Intern> (Town Neighbor)

Okapoka <Executive> (assumedly in charge of station's programming)> (claim: Informed Townie - has flavor info about people who work on the air at the station)

People who work on the air at the station

IHNC <Comedian> (Town 1x Bulletproof)

The Fonz <Minister> (Town ??? Visiting Role)

Cutty Shark <Action Star>(claim: roleblock-immune townie with no innate actions)
Anatole <Magician> (claim: item-enabled roleblock-immune vigilante)

Honey Bee <CEO> (Mafia Goon)

Nashville Dreams <Cameraman> (claim: Some watcher/tracker type of thing)

fferyllt <Tech Person> (Town Mason)

F-16 <Tech Person> (Town Mason)

Fixed my bit. I'm not informed of anything, and I stated as much in the intern PT.

Hmm, so I suppose Lissa asked him what his info was and he retracted it there and them saw your post.