Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

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noraa is basically sticking her fingers in her ears and going 'la la la' whenever confronted with anything that opposes her narrow pov
she also repeatedly drops mistruths and misstatements as if they're fact and ignores people who try to point out how she's wrong

YES

unfortunately i have no idea if that's an ai-thing or a personality-thing, but it's annoying as anything

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Don't say that. In case doctors purposefully mess with him to set him up tmrw, that'd be bad.
This is the plan imo
Lavar give ABR the weapon
ABR kill Lavar tonight. I can provide an extra attack to make sure it goes thru but this way I still get two night actions. One attack and one other action.

that's not the plan, and just because you announce it doesn't make it so

like this, she's acting like it's established fact that lavar should give abr the weapon when it, in fact, is not

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Who was trying to speedlynch F&G today? If F&G is town, that person(s) get scum points.

the entire fucking game except for like you and dk
(again that should point to this being a town wagon ...)

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WAIT THERES 4 SCUM??

i don't think i knew this was a thing either

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ummm where in the op is that, i just cntl+f'd for a bunch of things and don't see it

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VOTE: noraa
i would switch to abr too

i'm not convinced that's a proper scumslip

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Im still not buying that fng is scum but if skitterz doesnt come thru with some good analysis on each slot since i heard they are some sort of -really good- player in another game im not gonna fight against their lim anymore.

what are you looking for from me?

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no, that's my role/career

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pooky start claiming mech things pls

N0 explored found a lab
N1 went to gym got blocked
N2 went to lab to try to deactivate it - failed rolled a 3

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DK, I think that at least one of Noraa and Albert should be town, so I will give the sword tomorrow to one of them.

i think you should give it to gamma since he's conf-town and on the verge of death

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Im still not buying that fng is scum but if skitterz doesnt come thru with some good analysis on each slot since i heard they are some sort of -really good- player in another game im not gonna fight against their lim anymore.

what are you looking for from me?

you didn't respond to this
and now i'm going to sleep so you're gonna have to wait till after work tom

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... i did at great length before you repped in

until multiple people told me they literally didn't want me to speak and didn't want to engage with me. and that it was a waste of my breath to be posting. (abr + noraa). another person on my wagon seems to not be interested in reevaluating and is barely posting (and basically pops in to announce they support our wagon) (cmod), and lavar is obviously the lurking pine slot that's not doing anything.

that's my wagon ^. not much to work with, no? and at least three or four other people indicated they wanted to vote us too. so like ...
(and i have made it extraordinarily clear how *odd* it is that everyone but two slots wants to vote us out for no articulable reason)

so upon realizing i wasn't going to make much progress with our wagon, i made it very very very clear where it hought scum were, and who i thought town were, and where i think people should be lynching tomorrow upon our townflip. i've reiterated our dying readslist like 5 or 6 times now. i got at least two people commited to reconsidering abr tomorrow upon our townflip (johnny + sircakez)

i got people pissed off at me for trying to get people to think where they'd go upon our townflip (gamma, and i think a few others)

so given that people were literally telling me they weren't reading our posts, and given the gamestate i'm working in, i feel like i made a decent amount of progress for the amount of effort i put in and the amount of nonsense people were spewing at me

i have a very firm grasp of the gamestate, ty, but i'm not gonna waste my time or effort making myself frustrated banging my head against a wall

i'll go over my reads (again) if you want tomorrow, but i've made them extraordinarily clear and if you don't know what they are you haven't been paying attention or haven't been reading my posts

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ok well i'm going to sleep now but i'll do that tomorrow after work

and the fact that you didn't read my posts doesn't mean that i don't have reads or have thoughts on the gamestate, it just means you don't know what they are, and that's not at all the same thing.

but in short:

town: you, sircakez, iks, gamma
town? : penguin
idk: johnny, cmod
scum?: noraa (could be bad town and honestly i have no idea how to diffrentiate it)
scum: abr

abr's steamrolling is scummy. he's tried to artificially force eod like 4 distinct times that i've called out now
his lack of understanding teh gamestate is scummy
the fact that he wont' engage with people is scummy
the fact that he didn't try to attack us is scummy

there's literally nothing town there and i'm baffled that people are townreading him or defending him

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i do want to say that quesitons like "oh what are you doing after we flip town" is useless to me so i understand the annoyance at it. i think a better avenue is to actually be like "hey i think this is scum. hey what do you think of x's post here. do you think this is towny or scummy" etc. we need to force people to make reads and display their thoughts on the table.

i mean if people would actually engage with us, that would be a good thing to do, yes

if like 8 people are deadset on lynching us today, that's just gonna be viewed as trying to divert the lynch off of myself and they're gonna find me scummier than they did to begin with, so by focusing on tomorrow (esp. at daystart when our lynch looked inevitable) people can't complain that i'm trying to be survivalistic by trying to divert the wagon but i'm still making it extraordinarily clear where my reads are

i gotta work with the gamestate i'm in :shrug:

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i do want to say that quesitons like "oh what are you doing after we flip town" is useless to me so i understand the annoyance at it. i think a better avenue is to actually be like "hey i think this is scum. hey what do you think of x's post here. do you think this is towny or scummy" etc. we need to force people to make reads and display their thoughts on the table.

like if people are literally not willing to listen to my reads that's not going to go anywhere

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im pretty sure nora is just scum who is AtEing constantly to prevent town from doing anything bc i havent seen them post anything useful ever and ydrasse claimed a role i dont think they would claim as town so early. (seriously why would u claim that as town lol). also i read thru bingle's posts and i saw another interesting mech thing i dint think of and it ties into leashing but we can force someone to loot GB's corpse for the necklace as well

fwiw that's what pooky's read is on noraa ^
just single-mindedly producing a lot of noise to drown out other pov's

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ok g'night

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A big part of why I wanna flip F&G is due to the voting patterns, more so on the second day but also from the first day, I could 100% see a scum team of F&G and Lava

This is a bunch of vague/general buzzwords that doesnt actually mean anything

What exactly about our voting pattern is scummy?

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DK is calling F&G townie for at the start of the game trying to coordinate who does what action that night and who visits what rooms...knowing who is planning on visiting what room is very powerful for scum who have a room-blocker, if they want to use that room-blocker as effectively as possible then knowing which room is gonna have the most people visiting is gonna be very helpful

I'm kinda flattered that y'all think i'm that brazen as scum, but i wouldnt actually make those posts as scum with a roomblocker

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cos if you flip scum then we'll learn a lot, if you flip town then we'll know that our original ideas were wrong and thus we can re-evaluate, this is why I was so frustrated with the bingle flip yesterday, it gave us nothing...at

What exactly will you be learning upon our scumflip?

And let's do this again: upon our townflip what will your reads be?

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If F&G were town then this wagon would be much easier to get people on it, but it's not there's been so many people against it both yesterday and today, it's almost as if there aren't any scum who are wanting to get away with a quick and easy town elim

This isnt true and is revisionist
All but two slots in this game were calling for our heads at daystart. The only reason we werent lynches at that point is because peoppe wanted more time for the day to talk about things. And then dk came in and changed the gamestate

But to call us scummy for resistance to our wagon is ridiculous because there *wasn't* any.

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and never allow anyone to try and elim F&G

Why are you so convinced we're scummy exactly ... ?
You've kinda neglected to explaon that part

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and Sircakez has successfuly gotten F&G off. Pay attention.

Oh look, more revisionist history

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I haven't read anything. I took 1 look at the VC and can see from it sircakez has done exactly as I predicted. He loves saying he's willing to vote you and never actually does. And Johnny loves to hop off.

He's not the reason the wagon changed, even if you would like to portray it as such

I would still like to wagon abr in an ideal universe ^

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I am happy like a bubble.

All these people with their wonderful reasoning for voting me.

I hope you remember your reasons tomorrow and take the opportunity to improve your play in the future if you're town.

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Dk is a complete idiot.

link to VC on this page

You've made a complete fool out of yourself.

Again what a bright shining light of a human being

I am so glad to play yet another game with you ABR.

Glad to see you haven't changed a bit in a decade.

Keep being awesome

~Pooky

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Like today's play is really obvious.

We have Gamma Emerald - a player who killed 2 labs - who has been attacked TWICE by scum at night - on the verge of bleeding out on the floor.

There are people who said they can give him a sword to defend himself at night or w/e

These people won't give Gamma Emerald their sword. Why is that? Could it be because they want to use their swords to ... I dunno murder us at night?

But nah why vote these people and get them to give their weapons to the obv-town person on the verge of death.

Instead let's listen to ABR - the crazy guy jumping up and down and shouting LYNCH FG LYNCH FG.

like just lol ok whatever! :3

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who is the confscum?

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the scum have been using the anon attack to hit gamma for the past 2 nights.

They did 2 damage last night and if they do 2 damage tonight again he's dead.

How would we know who did it?

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Y'all have our reads.

focus on lavar, abr, and noraa tomorrow/tonight

Glhv!