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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 4:26 am
by samantha97
Votecount


RLotus [6]:
Andresvmb, JohnnyFarrar, Noraa, ssbm_Kyouko, Save The Dragons, Lukewarm
[-1]

JohnnyFarrar [2]:
RLotus, ItalianoVD
Dunnstral [1]:
Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald [1]:
VFP
Save The Dragons [1]:
Dunnstral

Not Voting: UC Voyager, MaxTheFox

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to reach majority.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-05-28 14:03:00) or when majority is reached.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 4:27 am
by VFP
In post 547, MaxTheFox wrote:Something about this post in particular just feels... off. I can't put my finger on it.
I'm killing you tonight.
You're too close to revealing the truth!

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 4:41 am
by Dunnstral
UNVOTE:

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 4:43 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 552, Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE:
What is this?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 4:49 am
by VFP
If Dragons ever flips red, we should suspect Dunn for taking pressure of his buddy!

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 4:52 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Dunn wasn't voting RLotus, RLotus is still L-1... But I think Dunn forgot who he was voting for which is concerning.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 4:56 am
by VFP
Thats why I say if Dragons flips red.
Also, I feel like Scum Dunn says a word or 2 if the unvote was from a Lotus mindset.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 4:58 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
oh Dragons. Sorry, I've been up nearly 24 hours at this point

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 6:36 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 525, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 522, ItalianoVD wrote:Ehh, I don't think so because he jumped on Andres after calling out Noraa for splitting votes
I didn't scumread Dunn, unlike Noraa. That's why I questioned Noraa about it. Noraa there, scumreading both, would be better served with one big pressure wagon than two small ones, no?
Sure, but why call it out and then follow? Especially before she even responded to your initial question?
In post 525, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
ItalianoVD wrote:then jumped on RLotus not for his own reasoning,
Do town not sheep?

Maybe it's the lack of sleep, but being the shitty counter wagon to Lotus is frustrating
Yes. Personally I think it’s nai, but context matters obviously. Noraa is pretty much universally townread and scum can sheep the townie and not get called out for it. That’s the problem I have with your move. It was not
that
you did it but how you did it and what your actions were afterwards.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 6:38 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 526, Noraa wrote:I'm having issues settling on a wagon. and more than normal. so idk someone else gotta be the town leader.
Aren’t you voting Lotus? Are you having second thoughts?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 6:44 am
by Save The Dragons
italiano, what's your read on lotus

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 6:53 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 527, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 428, Lukewarm wrote:Also, if I am right about Kyouko, I think Gamma is his partner.

But the Gamma read is a association based, so I would only push there if Kyouko flips red.
Spoiler:
In post 263, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 203, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Willing to vote UC, Kyoko, Ita, Luke today. Anybody else you or they will have to convince me

VOTE: uc[/v]
Luke is town
In post 265, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 248, Lukewarm wrote:Literally every stance Kyouko has made feels off to me. Like they are hunting for excuses to scum read people (which scum do), instead of actually reading people (which townies do)

VOTE: Kyouko
I can see this, something seems off about that last wall
In post 266, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 254, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 238, Noraa wrote:my suggestion is to either yeet Andres or Dunn.
It seems stupid to be going and yeeting Ita, VFP, or Mon who are all known to be LHF.

Dunn wagon has a decent amount of resistance. Tbh im really uncertain on Dunn but I do think that if he doesn't start towning up, he maybe should die today because if he is scum and gets replaced, its very damn possible that I'll just let him go and the replacement will slip by for a long time and that's horrible. And Andres dipped off saying he was drunk and still hasn't come back. I have a specific reason why I think Andres is scum which, if he is scum and comes back to the thread, I think I can verify. If he doesn't come back, then he needs to be replaced. However, I do also hope he doesn't rep out cuz my tell won't necessarily work on someone else. I think that if both Dunn and Andres get replaced, we should yeet Andres because im more confident in that being scum(kinda) I dunno im just still very weirded out that I dont have a solid read on Dunn at this point. Normally, like 3 posts in, I should already know exactly what alignment he is!!!!
I don't plan on needing a replacement...
That’s not what called for a response in that post
In post 267, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Dunnstral
I would like to actively push this atp


No one asked, but this is why I feel like Gamma is partnered with Kyouko. Me and Kyouko have a decently sized back and forth about my scum read on him ending in post

Gamma comes in, after the entire back and forth is over, and has this have this very quick progression on the topic
  • Luke is town (263)
  • I agree that this could be suspicious (265)
  • But look, Dunn (266)
  • Lets actually talk about him (267)
Like they are all back to back, and look to me like they are actively trying to redirect the conversation without appearing to defend their partner.

It is the weird "I TR the person making the accusation, and even agree that Kyouko seems off, but lets not talk about that. Lets talk about a lurker instead."

So, incase anyone was interested where I am at, I am still leaning towards Kyouko for a vote today because it would give me more info on whether that really was a scum partner save from Gamma, or if Gamma really is town.
I scumread Gamma independently of ssbm. I do get what you’re saying however and it’s not a bad case.

But real quick, what do you think of ssbm’s ? I’m big on tone and wording. Scum can be bold, but in this context I don’t know if kyouko would be given today’s events. I know you are a bit bias like I am, but if you can look at that and let me know if I’m wrong in that tone read or if I’m on the right track.

Can other people look at it as well. I asked but no one answered.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 6:55 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 530, Noraa wrote:mmm I dont really buy the gamma/ssb case. its a bit far fetched. I think they could be buddies but probs not because of that. it seems really specific and things that specific aren't the most reliable imo.
So why do
you
think they could be buddies?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 6:57 am
by JohnnyFarrar
Wrt 465, Itali, I'm kind of subscribing to Noraa's in regards to kyouko and I feel like that post fits the narrative Noraa put forth

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:02 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 533, Lukewarm wrote:A big part of the reason why my read on Kyouko hasn't changed is because absolutely no one engaged with our back and forth.
I read it but at the time I was having my own back and forth with ssbm. I didn’t not agree with it I just didn’t feel the need to say it since my mind was in a similar place.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:03 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 533, Lukewarm wrote:AND there was no one who bothered to tell me my read/logic was shit.
Hey my bad on that.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:14 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 537, Lukewarm wrote:Fuck it. time to turn off brain this game and sheep Noraa I guess

VOTE: rlotus
I get you’re frustrated but can we not do this?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:16 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 543, MaxTheFox wrote:Any responses to my reads?
Can you go in more depth about your reads on Kyouko and Gamma?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:19 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 547, MaxTheFox wrote:RLotus seems more like a confused town than a scum. There's the extremely weird push on him for reading active people as town which is ??????????
What if none of them seem scummy to him? What's he supposed to say then, lie about a scumread?
I don’t agree with the confused part, but I’m pretty much in line with everything else there.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:21 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 553, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 552, Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE:
What is this?
What is this? There’s a vote count at the top?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:22 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 556, VFP wrote:Also, I feel like Scum Dunn says a word or 2 if the unvote was from a Lotus mindset.
What does that last part mean?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:30 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 560, Save The Dragons wrote:italiano, what's your read on lotus

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:36 am
by VFP
In post 570, ItalianoVD wrote:What does that last part mean?
I'm saying that I doubt scum Dunn unvotes Lotus here without a word or 2.
That was in response to Dunn maybe thinking that he unvoted Lotus at E1.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:37 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 563, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Wrt 465, Itali, I'm kind of subscribing to Noraa's in regards to kyouko and I feel like that post fits the narrative Noraa put forth
Okayy, I understand how Noraa feels. What do
you
think about it? Do you think scum would be that bold? And I’m referring to this in particular…
In post 465, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:God damn it I was going to vote him first
I’ll wait until you answer before I give my thoughts on it.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:42 am
by VFP
IVD, sell me on Johnny.