Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:20 pm
Why do you insist on continuing to make me sad.In post 6047, ooba wrote:Naut: Your thoughts on a team of Alfred, Magua, Cephrir, TA?
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Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:35 pm
If there are two scumgroups I simply think they can't kill each other. You're right that it's weird you would put your neck out there but if you thought Benmage was scum you'd be the one scoring the credit for it. Frankly though looking back I'm embarrassed that 'counterfakeclaim the fakeclaim' is a sentence that could apply to this game.
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:48 pm
but mine's not a fakeclaim =(
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:06 pm
Analyzing all possible teams.In post 6050, Cephrir wrote:Why do you insist on continuing to make me sad.In post 6047, ooba wrote:Naut: Your thoughts on a team of Alfred, Magua, Cephrir, TA?
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:01 am
This particular team requires impressive claims everywhere, for one. The neighborized Tierce claim is great and awesome but I do intend to go through Tierces posts and see if I can pick it up from her end to add credence to the story, but I'm inclined to believe it without that confirmation.In post 6047, ooba wrote:Naut: Your thoughts on a team of Alfred, Magua, Cephrir, TA?
It means Magua isn't even attempting to go for a mislynch, just wants towncred which seems a bit unlikely to me.
It also requires Magua getting sketched out at the L-1 on Alfred when it's a scum lynch and he decided instead to twiddle his hands and do nothing.
Not to mention disagrees with my reads and all that jazz, but I think today would have gone down very differently if this was the team.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:38 am
Fine - Tierce's posts sort of collaborate the claim that but I really didn't spot anything that made me think the claim couldn't have been made from looking at Tierce's posts.
To avoid any possible hammer-theory ramifications,
Mc you should claim.In post 6002, ooba wrote:@MC: If you're town and want to avoid claiming too close to the deadline and risking deadline lynch-ed ('Oh - we don't have any other choice than MC - can't switch now') - you might want to consider claiming now.
To avoid any possible hammer-theory ramifications,
I'd like to be the one to hammer
- consider this a vote on MC.Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:56 am
The big thing that corroborates the claim is Tierce knowledge of Joffrey and Joffrey being linked to Sansa and totally not Olenna.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:19 am
This post is fucking terrible.In post 6004, Titus wrote:Let's see here
We have Benmage's push on Alfred. He has some suspicious hammers. Benmage gets totally over the top. Benmage appeals to AtE rather than logic.
We have ooba's push on MC. He's a hard hydra to lynch and could probably sell me a bridge in the desert. He's been a vocal town leader, and we have been mislynching a lot. Naut's posts are also worth sheeping aside from him thinking I am scum. Ooba appears to be trying.
VOTE: MC
The push on Alfred is a lot more than Benmage's AtE, and the way you are now downplaying the hammers when they've been the only reason you've been pushing Alfred personally is
Nacho's posts are worth sheeping despite your reason for us being scum a) being totally wrong (we've only been on the Garruk and Goat mislynches), b) diametrically opposed to Nacho's points on us.
And if your criteria for scum right now is Vocal Townleader Leading Mislynches That Is Hard to Lynch and Could Probably Sell You a Bridge in a Desert, you're sheeping Nacho because....why?
This is The Worst Post in this 6000 post game and it's not even close.
No, the only reason the BordenIn post 6040, Nautilius wrote:First quote makes it seem like Magua vote was what made it all better, but second quote shows that wasn't the case. The only reason the Borden wagon became viable was because of the wild card Alchemist switch over... But that happened after your vote. Why did you switch over when you did? Can you finally admit that the vote switches look sketchy?
lynch
became viable was because of Alch's switch. L-2 is a viable wagon.The more you reference how unlikely it would be for scum-you to have stuck your neck out, the more likely it becomes.In post 6049, Cephrir wrote:And there's still no reason for Scumrir to stick his neck out at all there.
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We're Jaime Lannister, X-Shot Self-Watching Roleblocker. X times at night we can choose to watch ourselves; if we're visited, we have the option of roleblocking them the next night.
N1 we saw SafetyDance visit us and were also informed that we received the fruit and chose not to roleblock
N5 no one visited us
We also have a passive ability that prevents us from being neighborized.
N1 we saw SafetyDance visit us and were also informed that we received the fruit and chose not to roleblock
N5 no one visited us
We also have a passive ability that prevents us from being neighborized.
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Titus's 6004 is so scummy that it simultaneously knocks Nacho off of our scum list because there is no way Nacho's teammate would be so out of tune with his arguments at this stage.
{Borden, Alchemist, Titus, Magua}
- Des
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:23 am
Roles =/= alignments, he exhibited signs of having a neighbourizing power on Day 1, no one's saying either of them is lying. The question is just if they're scum despite that. Around etc vote could MY FRIENDS BOUGHT ME A RITUAL KNIFE WHOO
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:26 am
In post 5953, Benmage wrote:ITS MINDLESS REDHERRING SHIT. I know this for a fact because my role has special magic dust forJaime Lannister... but I'm not auto-assuming he's in the game let alone scum.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:54 am
Christmas is kicking my ass; I'll do me best to get to this today. Can't promise though.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:57 am
Not my fault Shadoweh keeps bringing it up...In post 6057, Messiah Complex wrote:The more you reference how unlikely it would be for scum-you to have stuck your neck out, the more likely it becomes.In post 6049, Cephrir wrote:And there's still no reason for Scumrir to stick his neck out at all there.
That sure is a roleclaim and it doesn't make me want to lynch here any less.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:03 am
Well I'd like Benmage to discuss what he knows about Jaime.
Messiah, any reason you capitalised these letters? I've skimmed the rest of your ISO and didn't see any random-caps typing.In post 6057, Messiah Complex wrote:And if your criteria for scum right now isVocalTownleaderLeadingMislynchesThatIsHard toLynch andCouldProbablySellYou aBridge in aDesert, you're sheeping Nacho because....why?
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:18 am
I was turning Titus' accusation into an official title and implying that, of all of the people remaining, it would belong to Nacho, yet he is sheeping Nacho's posts on us (while simultaneously not understanding a word of what Nacho is saying).
- Des
- Des
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:41 am
Well surprise, fucking surprise. I guess I shouldn't expect anything else from you though. You have been riding our fucking dicks the whole game and have shown next to no evidence to support any scum claim on us.In post 6061, Cephrir wrote:Not my fault Shadoweh keeps bringing it up...In post 6057, Messiah Complex wrote:The more you reference how unlikely it would be for scum-you to have stuck your neck out, the more likely it becomes.In post 6049, Cephrir wrote:And there's still no reason for Scumrir to stick his neck out at all there.
That sure is a roleclaim and it doesn't make me want to lynch here any less.
We've said what we've needed to say and have made peace with our Gods. It's just to bad that we don't have an opportunity for a more honorable death. Know this though, our lynch is based off bad reads and scum is capitalising on those and it's pathetic that the rest of the town is letting this happen.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:43 am
I need everyone to consider a {Magua, Alchemist, Titus, Borden} scum team then revisit the formation of the Borden wagon followed by the counterwagon on us.
Magua comes in to today breathing hellfire on Borden and votes him even though Alchemist is also scum for him and is getting wagoned. If he was paying attention at all he would have known that Ben, Titus, and ourselves had already committed to our read on Borden and would obviously join him--his getting cold feet because the wagon flashed too quickly isn't genuine.
Ben and I join, followed by an essentially naked vote by Alch--who also knows Titus is compelled to join the wagon, meaning his L-2 vote is essentially L-1. Titus comes in immediately after and the bus is on.
But then Magua cries wolf, and Titus jumps off his scumread on to his counterwagon, who has been consistently pushing for his lynch for days with a set of reasons that are not reflective of the gamestate whatsoever. Yet again, he knows Ooba is committed to his vote on us so his L-2 is essentially L-1, setting Magua up to hammer us for the mislynch into 9p LYLO.
Game over.
We can still salvage this fucking game if you (specifically, Nacho and Ooba) open your fucking eyes and see what is happening.
Failing that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nIGR-WoHA
- Des
Magua comes in to today breathing hellfire on Borden and votes him even though Alchemist is also scum for him and is getting wagoned. If he was paying attention at all he would have known that Ben, Titus, and ourselves had already committed to our read on Borden and would obviously join him--his getting cold feet because the wagon flashed too quickly isn't genuine.
Ben and I join, followed by an essentially naked vote by Alch--who also knows Titus is compelled to join the wagon, meaning his L-2 vote is essentially L-1. Titus comes in immediately after and the bus is on.
But then Magua cries wolf, and Titus jumps off his scumread on to his counterwagon, who has been consistently pushing for his lynch for days with a set of reasons that are not reflective of the gamestate whatsoever. Yet again, he knows Ooba is committed to his vote on us so his L-2 is essentially L-1, setting Magua up to hammer us for the mislynch into 9p LYLO.
Game over.
We can still salvage this fucking game if you (specifically, Nacho and Ooba) open your fucking eyes and see what is happening.
Failing that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nIGR-WoHA
- Des
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:39 am
TA\Magua\Alfred\Titus
Day 7 - Four wagons all on scum? Ok - but then the scum decide to bus the ninja?
Day 9 - Why didn't TA or Titus vote you instead of Alfred? Town cred for later, you say? Well, those were the weakest jumps - any towncred they would have got would have lost its value tomorrow when the wagon was analysed.
And I'm never going to be sold on Titus scum. If SpyreX\Zdenek played that kind of game D3 as scum - congratulations! At least town can pin the entire loss on me for derailing the game via kanye + bad reads this close to LyLo.
Day 7 - Four wagons all on scum? Ok - but then the scum decide to bus the ninja?
Day 9 - Why didn't TA or Titus vote you instead of Alfred? Town cred for later, you say? Well, those were the weakest jumps - any towncred they would have got would have lost its value tomorrow when the wagon was analysed.
And I'm never going to be sold on Titus scum. If SpyreX\Zdenek played that kind of game D3 as scum - congratulations! At least town can pin the entire loss on me for derailing the game via kanye + bad reads this close to LyLo.
Spoiler: Coloured VC
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:55 am
The more important question is that there are wagons on all the remaining scum and none of them even take the initiative to create one town counter wagon for an entire week?In post 6066, ooba wrote:Day 7 - Four wagons all on scum? Ok - but then the scum decide to bus the ninja?
Alfred starts a very weak wagon on Benmage after 7 days - not the best candidate for an effective counter wagon because of multiple pre-existing town reads at that time.
Sorry passing on TA\Magua\Alfred\Titus.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:16 am
Merry Christmas to those who celebrate it!
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Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:17 am
D7 - 4 wagons all on scum with three of them not voting is reasonable--they were dead to rights and waiting for a miracle (which you provided).In post 6066, ooba wrote:Day 7 - Four wagons all on scum? Ok - but then the scum decide to bus the ninja?
Day 9 - Why didn't TA or Titus vote you instead of Alfred? Town cred for later, you say? Well, those were the weakest jumps - any towncred they would have got would have lost its value tomorrow when the wagon was analysed.
And I'm never going to be sold on Titus scum. If SpyreX\Zdenek played that kind of game D3 as scum - congratulations! At least town can pin the entire loss on me for derailing the game via kanye + bad reads this close to LyLo.
Elle's bus was extremely weak:
And as soon as she got back from v/la she jumped on to Kanye while abdicating responsibility to Tierce.In post 4974, elleheathen wrote:Gah, sorry Faraday (and all). Didn't think the long weekend would be this damn... long.
V/LA though until Wednesday (4th).
UHM.
I could really get behind either of those votes. Benmage or TA. I'll go with:
VOTE: The Alchemist
What was Borden doing at this time? Voting Benmage, who will fakeclaim a guilty on one of his strongest townreads and...become town?
But anyway, elle sheeps Tierce on kanye, you start to coordinate the hammer on Alchemist and...switch to Kanye. Only Benmage bites. Kanye and Cephrir do their role related dance and then you give them their miracle. Elle, Alchemist, and Titus never get a chance to react to your fakeclaim.
D9 - Maybe they decided to bus and Magua pulled the rug out from under them. Maybe the plan was to get Borden to L-1 and dismantle it from the beginning, knowing Ben and I would join them on it.
In either case, it's not a bus until someone is dead.
- Des
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:25 am
Alfred and Alchemist and Elle were all essentially not here at that time. Elle had 6 posts all of d7. Alchemist had 4. Borden had about a dozen before your fakeclaim. And Titus was too busy helping me push Borden to start a counterwagon.In post 6067, ooba wrote:The more important question is that there are wagons on all the remaining scum and none of them even take the initiative to create one town counter wagon for an entire week?In post 6066, ooba wrote:Day 7 - Four wagons all on scum? Ok - but then the scum decide to bus the ninja?
Alfred starts a very weak wagon on Benmage after 7 days - not the best candidate for an effective counter wagon because of multiple pre-existing town reads at that time.
Sorry passing on TA\Magua\Alfred\Titus.
- Des
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:38 am
unvote vote messiah
alrighty
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:39 am
Yeah. You are getting pissy and OMGUSy which is not you. I swapped due to wagon composition. That's hardly bad. My drunk posting was bad, but I guess that was fine because I wasn't voting you. I was solid town until I vote you. That is a major survivalist mindset.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:40 am
^^^ Refers to MC.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:41 am
Magua unvotes scum under the pretense of speed...when those who claim to want to vote him do so...
now he's squandered the day uselessly... much like tierce and tammy did in their time.
zzzzz
good players.
lol
now he's squandered the day uselessly... much like tierce and tammy did in their time.
zzzzz
good players.
lol