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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:18 am
by Andresvmb
Well that’s a hard guilty so we execute it.

VOTE: FMFT

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:18 am
by VFP
VOTE: FMFT

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:18 am
by Andresvmb
And yeah, I do think Gamma is just Scum.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:20 am
by VFP
I guess that's why Gamma isn't fun this game!

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:23 am
by MaxTheFox
In post 869, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 796, MaxTheFox wrote:VFP is my current SR. He is very jumpy and his posts just seem gross to me.
How is this a better vote than FTSP who has spewed a bunch of nonsense about other roles that no town role would know?

Why would there be a town informed who knows that gamma is a cop enabler, and that there's a follower in the game? The role doesn't make sense as a town role, plus FTSP is voting for VFP too
VFP feels even worse to me, after this I'm fine with voting FMFT too. Assuming that's who you mean by FTSP.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:24 am
by VFP
In post 879, MaxTheFox wrote:VFP feels even worse to me, after this I'm fine with voting FMFT too. Assuming that's who you mean by FTSP.
This is still scum.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:26 am
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE: FMFT
Well that explains Dunnstral’s lurking at least

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:27 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 872, Dunnstral wrote:Alright I have info that I'm ready to out: I have the role of backup lazy cop. So, when rtlotus died I became a lazy cop; I checked Free Money Free Tea and he is indeed mafia
Ok cool

VOTE: Free money

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:29 am
by Dunnstral
In post 850, samantha97 wrote:
Votecount


VFP [3]:
MaxTheFox, Gamma Emerald, ssbm_Kyouko
Free Money Free Tea [2]:
Dunnstral, Save The Dragons
JohnnyFarrar[1]:
ItalianoVD
Noraa [1]:
VFP

Not Voting: Noraa, Free Money Free Tea, JohnnyFarrar, Andresvmb

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to reach majority.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-06-05 19:44:00) or when majority is reached.
In post 858, Free Money Free Tea wrote:
In post 832, VFP wrote:VOTE: Nora
VOTE: VFP

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:29 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 872, Dunnstral wrote:Despite a member of the mafia knowing his role he didn't die, even though there weren't any other pr targets
I can’t really hard-counter any of the other points, but this falls flat with the fact that by FMFT’s own admission, they received my role info as a night result last night, making it not actionable that night.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:30 am
by Dunnstral
In post 884, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 872, Dunnstral wrote:Despite a member of the mafia knowing his role he didn't die, even though there weren't any other pr targets
I can’t really hard-counter any of the other points, but this falls flat with the fact that by FMFT’s own admission, they received my role info as a night result last night, making it not actionable that night.
Maybe so, depends on flip

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:32 am
by ItalianoVD
That’s hammer isn’t it

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:33 am
by Gamma Emerald
True
If FMFT flips as claimed I probably am not in a great spot
But atp I’m anticipating the true flip just about clearing me

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:33 am
by MaxTheFox
In post 880, VFP wrote:
In post 879, MaxTheFox wrote:VFP feels even worse to me, after this I'm fine with voting FMFT too. Assuming that's who you mean by FTSP.
This is still scum.
Keep OMGUSing bro.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:36 am
by Gamma Emerald
Also, since it’s already known by scum, the other part of my role is follower enabler
As such there’s not hard proof that follower exists FMPOV, but given a role with two different potential follower results flipped, it seems possible

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:38 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 840, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 825, ItalianoVD wrote:I don’t think all of them are scum (ssbm, free tea, and gamma), but I don’t think they’re all town either. I’m still trying to feel out what partnership would make the most sense to me. Gamma/ssbm, ssbm/free, or Gamma/free. Then I have to see which partnership makes the most sense to have Johnny in there with them.
I spotted two assumptions in this. Can you explain why you are making them?
Umm, you’re gonna have to explain cause I’m not sure what you mean.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:40 am
by JohnnyFarrar
Well this is a fine good morning

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:40 am
by Dunnstral
Follower feels like a scum role in this setup
Could reconsider Gamma
Max doesn't feel genuine with the Vfp push right now
I assume I'm dying anyway

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:47 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 890, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 840, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 825, ItalianoVD wrote:I don’t think all of them are scum (ssbm, free tea, and gamma), but I don’t think they’re all town either. I’m still trying to feel out what partnership would make the most sense to me. Gamma/ssbm, ssbm/free, or Gamma/free. Then I have to see which partnership makes the most sense to have Johnny in there with them.
I spotted two assumptions in this. Can you explain why you are making them?
Umm, you’re gonna have to explain cause I’m not sure what you mean.
2 scum in (me, FMFT, ssbm)
Johnny being scum

@Dunnstral I think scum follower is less likely if FMFT flips as an ungated version of what I think he will

Also I’d really like VFP to tell me how the fuck they know me because circumstantial evidence points to them potentially being someone I have sworn to destroy.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:54 am
by Noraa
Ok so I just checked in and saw a shit ton of votes. idk if there's already a hammer but I'm not going into the night having said nothing.
In post 859, VFP wrote:I just look at every MaxtheFox post and wonder, how is this town?
I actually agree with this tbh
In post 868, Dunnstral wrote:I need more explanations behind these VFP scumreads
If Max is scum, I will believe that VFP is town. Otherwise I think VFP is scum because he's not trying in the slightest to act town. He clearly doesn't SR me. Then why vote me?
In post 872, Dunnstral wrote:Alright I have info that I'm ready to out: I have the role of backupVOTE: lazy cop. So, when rtlotus died I became a lazy cop; I checked Free Money Free Tea and he is indeed mafia

The lazy modifier means that if there is only 1 mafia remaining, I can't use my ability

Gamma is probably mafia as well from multiple angles:
-Town enabler runs contrary to the design goals of town backup
-The above is compounded upon by mafia knowing of a cop enabler on night 1, which should certainly render my role useless under normal circumstances
-Despite a member of the mafia knowing his role he didn't die, even though there weren't any other pr targets
-My role is already gated by the lazy modifier
-The way FMFT and Gamma are playing around each other today
-The way Gamma is being super dodgy with his claim
-The rest of their play isn't great anyway

Now, if anybody else has backed up the jailkeeper, which seems moderately likely to me, I'd put serious consideration into jailkeeping me, regardless of the roleblock
Wow ok Dunn is lock town. This post is very towny VOTE: FMFT and I'm also down to vote gamma tomorrow.
Doc, JK, whatever. All on Dunn tonight.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:55 am
by Noraa
In post 892, Dunnstral wrote:Max doesn't feel genuine with the Vfp push right now
Awesome we're on the same page. We should lim Max or Gamma tmrw.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:57 am
by JohnnyFarrar
You think a pre outed fmft busses vfp like that?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:57 am
by Noraa
In post 893, Gamma Emerald wrote:2 scum in (me, FMFT, ssbm)
Johnny being scum
no. nah. no.
Johnny is probably just town here. The game's already been cracked in half by Dunn.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:58 am
by Noraa
In post 896, JohnnyFarrar wrote:You think a pre outed fmft busses vfp like that?
Why not? FMFT is barely doing anything so that wouldn't surprise me?
Also like I'm 100% sure {VFP, Maxthefox} has scum. Their interactions aren't natural. One of them has to be scum. There is literally like no other explanation.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:06 am
by samantha97
Final Votecount


Free Money Free Tea [6]:
Dunnstral, Save The Dragons, ssbm_Kyouko, Andresvmb, VFP, Gamma Emerald
VFP [2]:
MaxTheFox, Free Money Free Tea
JohnnyFarrar[1]:
ItalianoVD

Not Voting: Noraa, JohnnyFarrar