Mini 1214: Box Office Mafia (Game Over!)

[Darox]

Nope.

If I was past scum, game would already be won, for me.
If I was future scum, game would already be won, for me.

This is not hard.

[Darox]

No, it's not obvious to me. Can you tell me why Quilford, why not chamber?

Why don't you tell me?
What is scummy about chamber?

The way you're accusing is almost like you suspect I'm chambers scumbuddy, which is so patently retarded I dismissed it out of hand but I guess I was too hasty in removing the bubble wrap from sharp corners.

Seriously.

[Quilford]

Why is this obvious for you?

[Quilford]

Finally he asks the question 'WHY IS CHAMBER STILL ALIVE' like that's some damning fact, but when asked WHEN he expects I should have died, he has no answer, because he didn't actually think it through. The ONLY night a kill on me would've made sense is night 4 when JAM died. At that point we were moving to the past where I was vanilla and JAM had a swingy power (that scum couldn't reasonably have, effectively a dayvig that ends the day. If the scum were given that power it would have to look a lot more like Quilfords ;)), I can only assume that's why he was killed instead of me.

If anything this sounds like frustration with tcl for not killing me.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

As if I would call out my own scumbuddy in public. chamber is reaching so hard here.

[Quilford]

Finally he asks the question 'WHY IS CHAMBER STILL ALIVE' like that's some damning fact, but when asked WHEN he expects I should have died, he has no answer, because he didn't actually think it through. The ONLY night a kill on me would've made sense is night 4 when JAM died. At that point we were moving to the past where I was vanilla and JAM had a swingy power (that scum couldn't reasonably have, effectively a dayvig that ends the day. If the scum were given that power it would have to look a lot more like Quilfords ;)), I can only assume that's why he was killed instead of me.

If anything this sounds like frustration with tcl for not killing me.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

As if I would call out my own predecessor in public for a poor choice in NK. chamber is reaching so hard here.

EBWOQ

[Quilford]

"I propose he did this as a gambit, accusing someone highly unlikely to get lynched in order to make himself look better."
This is classic scum tactics, right here. chamber has posted what my actions would be described as if I were guaranteed scum and worded it such that it sounds like a reason for me being scum. It's nicely disguised WIFOM and that's it.

[Quilford]

If I was future scum, game would already be won, for me.

How?

[Quilford]

Its only actually 50/50 if its horribly missused. Scum could easily manuever situations where they get rid of a townie more guilty looking than themselves, but not the optimal lynch for the day.

Bullshit. Scum would come under heavy fire from town for doing that. And they can get rid of a townie more guilty looking than themselves by voting for them ordinarily.

(And we have no reason to think hes actually vanilla in the future other than him saying so, in fact him being a role blocker makes a lot more sense).

This is classic scum tactics, right here. chamber has posted what my actions would be described as if I were guaranteed scum and worded it such that it sounds like a reason for me being scum. It's nicely disguised WIFOM and that's it.

Darox, this is not hard.

[chamber]

The deadline is ticking away and I'd rather this decision not be a last minute one. If either of you have questions you want to ask of me, please ask them.

[Quilford]

lol

[Darox]

The deadline is ticking away and I'd rather this decision not be a last minute one. If either of you have questions you want to ask of me, please ask them.

What happened to your face?

I'm going to stick with my first thought and

Vote: Quilford

[chamber]

Its October! (I may have forgotten for a few days)

[Quilford]

>rebut almost everything chamber says
>lol as chamber comes in and asks "if either of you have questions you want to ask of me..."
>what the fuck as Darox votes me

Darox, you complete and total dumbass.

Unless you are future scum which afaik is still possible, there is no reason for you not to explain your scumread on me. Do it. Now.

[Quilford]

I point out once again that there is no way in hell I could try to make a link between IS and chamber if I had received a scum role PM. That would mean I have knowledge that I wouldn't as town, and making IS/chamber connections wouldn't seem like a legitimate idea to me.

[Darox]

There is plenty of reason.

The reason being I really hate rereading things I've already reread because my mind gets stuck in playback loops enough as it is.

Basically everything about tclaw's play up till the start of the showmatch did nothing to enamour me and I'm bearing my heart to MoI and hoping he doesn't break it by trusting him on this roleblocker thing, and you are the number one candidate.

Why can't chamber be future scum with IS again?

Apparently at this point everyone can be future scum, including me somehow?
We should just switch to the future and win a 4 way scumteam victory.

[Darox]

Oh right.
Mod rules haven't stopped being true.

Vote: Future

We should do this for optimality.

[Quilford]

If chamber is future scum with IS then why are you switching to the future?

In fact, why are you switching to the future at all?

[chamber]

Vote: Future.

[Quilford]

"Basically everything about tclaw's play up till the start of the showmatch did nothing to enamour me and I'm bearing my heart to MoI and hoping he doesn't break it by trusting him on this roleblocker thing, and you are the number one candidate."
It probably has something to do with whoever's ability modifier.

Did you ask whoever it was exactly how it worked?

Why are we being incredibly stupid and changing the fucking time period?

If that wasn't just a period quickhammer from chamber scum I don't know what is.

[Quilford]

chamber probably has passive future doublevote and active future roleblock

[chamber]

Quickhammering time change doesn't even work, its not locked in untill the day ends...

[Quilford]

So why did you vote future again?

[chamber]

ture scum: We lynch them, but because we still have a 2:1 number advant

[chamber]

In other news, there is no reason not to swap to the future.

Assuming we hit past scum: We lynch them, there are no more past scum, we win the game.
Assuming we hit future scum: We lynch them, but because we still have a 2:1 number advantage we don't autolose to the past scum, and before he gets any night actions we switch to the future and deny him a kill, then win the game.

Whoops, my own feature biting me in the ass.

[Quilford]

That is an excellent idea, but it means that we need to lynch charter today.

Darox also needs to read. This is vitally important.