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Don't Move Mafia

2 Weeping Angels (Mafia Goons)
6 Scared Cops (No Moving Cops)
1 Dr Who (Area One-way Jailkeeper)

No Moving Cops can target as many players as they like in a night, but if one of their targets is targeted by another player or targets another player, they die.
Area One-way Jailkeeper can target as many players as he wants a night and prevents the action of everyone he targets

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why doesn't dr who target everyone and play nightless

Because that's boring and town maybe would just lose?
I guess we could limit dr who to only half the players

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How would you fix it?

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I'm just thinking that if scumteam knows who the No Moving Cops are targetting, they can target those players resulting in that player's death and then the cop is useless

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So you have a whole bunch of no moving cops, right? They all target the player beneath them. Best case scenario, Dr who is above one of the scum, and then the scum kill one cop, three of the cops die due to targeting players that targeted or were targeted, that's four deaths, after a mislynch on n1, which results in a scum win

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That's if DR who doesn't target anyone. Dr who targets the wrong person, gives off a false positive and kills a cop in the process. I don't see any strategies that prevent chaos

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You almost don't even need Dr Who.

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A>B
C>D
E>F
G>H

Doc claims N1.

Scum can't kill inside one of the pairs containing scum, so either they kill Conftown or they kill 2 town. If the scum who kills is in the targetee column, they're confscummed and a townie dies. If they're not they get to fake a result. So after night 1 it's 5p LYLO or 6 P MYLO with 2-3 cop results or faked cop results. Hm.

Counterpoint: Scum counter-claims the Dr.

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Actually counter-claiming is risky and dumb. I don't think they're confscummed in any scenario, they just conftown the player they were supposed to target, unless I'm not understanding fully

Actually, Doctor Who being non targeting is interesting, and I don't think it hurts the setup.

Can scum win after a D1 scum lynch though?

Ouch. I doubt it.

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I'm really not all the way awake right now or else I'd work through the math on it, but it would be very hard for solo scum to win, I think, as long as town coordinates. If town doesn't coordinate then chaos. Maybe one of the mafia members could be a scrambler (he swaps the targets of two players)

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although something i didn't think about is that mafia can just choose to not target anyone

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You have a 50/50 of a 1v1 for the player who doesn't kill, unless both scum are paired.
You have a 50/50 of the scum killing killing an extra townie unless both scum are paired, but that makes the killing scum confscum.

Hm... maybe copstart? That way the cops have to choose to target or not without coordination on N0.

Killing scum isn't confscum, unless I misunderstand. It clears the two targetees as town, but the other cop and the scum have to 1v1. (in a 4p scenario)

No one in their right mind would investigate on N0... I guess if maybe there was a kill on N0?

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Maybe I'm misunderstanding, do the cops get town/scum when they successfully target?

Also, if the person targeting a player dies along with two others, it means that player acted. Which means they would be scum.

No, they just die or don't die, and that's the result.