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Guys, I thought we were PLing Kass as soon as the game began, but since Kondi says something important has happened, I'll put my campaign on hold for a moment (won't move my vote though) and read why Kondi is pissed off.My GTKAS!
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Uhmm, Matt I think toning a bit down is a good idea.
I know your sudden anger was caused by Kondi saying: "Mattp is probably scum."
It was a light accusation, still early in the game and no reason to go so hot-headed from the get go.
↑ TheTrollie wrote:voting bloc--dont understand
The reason why Kondi made this voting block was because the members of this block has collaborated in numerous games (including on-goings) so far and therefore has mutual idea of friendship among us.
In games I've played with them so far, they were intelligent, worthy and likable fellows.
I see that you might be confused we are buddying up so quickly but we just know each other very well and want to use that to our (Town's) advantage.
I agree it was rather blatant of him without giving any reasons for constructing such a group from the get-go, but you must understand that this group had been chatting in the Open Game Sign-up thread before the game about how we are all in the same game again etc etc (includes the promise that we will Policy lynch Kassadin).
I also do agree that there was no conversation whatsoever about building up a Voting Block before the game began, but that does not really matter.
I presume the main purpose of this Voting Block was to get rid of Kassadin from the get-go anyways.
Yes, we left him out....I find Chrimi the most fun player to be in a game with so far.
1. He just felt the need to cooperate in order to lynch Kassadin, I presume.
2. You didn'treallydisagreed. You merely presented a flaw in the block. and Kondi merely presented a possibility on your alignment. I mean, we can call anybody that even before the game begins.
↑ TheTrollie wrote:when are voting blocs not retarded...
I assume you haven't been in this site long time (neither have I, as a matter of fact). Wish you won't so hastily discard an actual game strategy.
Mattp gave an example of voting block working very well.
That's fine.
↑ Darkling_Perhaps wrote:I'm not against this voting block idea curiosity-wise, but I'm not for it personally. It's way too plausible for scum to be a part of it which seems like an easier way for scum to hide by voting with the group. At the same time I'm curious to see exactly how this affects this game because I'm also new to the idea of a voting bloc. Kondi, why specifically those 5? I'm not as suspicious of you as the ones above unless you try to use this 'voting bloc' as some kind of shield, so only time will tell.
I'm going to make a vote towards VOTE: Kassadin unless he proves to me he's not just going to troll this game.
Yay, a Troll Hunter like me.
As I've said before, Kondi probably developed this group in order to achieve efficient quick-lynch on Kassadin.
Also, yes, I want to see voting block actually working too. It will put massive pressures.
Hello to you too.
I'm seriously in too many games...But still, I get to meet awesome people like yourself.
↑ TheTrollie wrote:unless there is scum in the bloc...which seems pretty possible (especially in this case)
You seem pretty negative about this new idea to you. Presenting all sorts of bad cases and horrible possibilities. Are you scum trying to sabotage this Block?
Urgh...Should have read the entire thing before making the post;; But oh well.
Okay, he was observing our reactions. Most weren't into it. What have you learned?
↑ TheTrollie wrote:right...ok...but what im asking is if you are acting scummy, and someone calls you out...why are they likely scum? that makes ZERO sense to me
I don't think you've completely accepted what Kondi pulled there and yet you are weakening your tone.
Did you feel empowered when you were voting Kondi while Chrimi and Matt had already placed their votes on him?
↑ Mortontfrh wrote:People quick to accuse him of scum because of it seem to be a bit opportunistic. The idea was presented before the game had even officially started, so I think it's a bit obscure for anyone to be pouncing on how scummy it is.
Accurate as usual Morton. Indeed we can see them as opportunists. However I saw only one real opportunist and its Trollie.
↑ Venmar wrote:I don't think Kondi made his post out of stupidity. He does not strike me as stupid person so i doubt he made his bloc out of stupidity or randomness. This does not change what i think of the bloc in general, it can be a very good MID to LATE game tool that i think can be implemented either late D1 or sometime during D2. I just didn't see the bloc really working out this early in the game. Trying to impose a bloc so early before posting is kind of sketchy and kind of a weak move. Kondi does not strike as a player who would make such a move.
What exactly are you trying to say here? Did you read that Kondi made Voting Block to see our reactions to it?
I think you are implying here that Kondi made it for some other reason.
Since you didn't specify what you think it was meant for, I want to ask you to do it now.
Kassadin is basically a Troll who comes on around once a day (or twice, or once in two days, who cares) and his posts contain something like 10 letters.
i.e: "He is scummy." "I follow wagon." "Vote: Someone"
He's been doing that in all his games and we are going to policy lynch him.My GTKAS!
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Ummm, he hasn't posted here yet and the Moderator does not particularly know Kassadin, so force replacing him at such an early stage is a bad idea.
If we were to do that in all our games, he wouldn't be playing at all...
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There is no such thing as Voting Block. Kondi just experimented with your reactions. There is no more "OUR" in a sense of that list of people Kondi gave.
You also didn't answer my question.
Are you a scum trying to sabotage this Block?
Did you feel empowered when you were voting Kondi while Chrimi and Matt had already placed their votes on him?
Also I'm going to add this question:
Did Mattp voting for Kondi in anyways inclined you to vote him along with him?
@Venmar: No need to explain further. Kondididsay that he was using it as a bait (he's still yet to tell us what he gained) so your explanation is disappointing.
@MattP: So you guys naturally buddy each other. Okay.
Oh, here's Kassadin. Letter count: 13.My GTKAS!
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And yet no vote.
Bigger scumread than Kondi and you merely unvote on someone?
That is when I was posting an analysis of each posts without reading the entire thing.
I don't get your sentence: "It was not even your reaction test so even if Kondi is town doesnt mean you are too"My GTKAS!
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No, Kondi was probably observing how peopleinthe group was reacting as well.
Like if someone is overly happy with it or someone's sceptical with the idea etc etc.
I had no intentions of buddying with Kondi except for the fact that I was trying to unite everyone into Policy Lynching Kassadin.
What is so confusing? You should really ask Kondi for that instead of trying to figure it out in your head because the way you imagine things and the way someone intends things may be different.My GTKAS!
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@Trollie:Of course I'm not clear. But why did you clear Kondi? You didn't actually say why Kondi is not scummy anymore.
I think you are following MattP's tails again.
Voting Block WOULD have helped if it was used to get rid of Kassadin like some of us are trying to do right now.
P-Edit: Oh, you are yet AGAIN following MattP's tails.
Policy Lynching is beneficial to Town because we are at more liberty to lose number of people earlier in the game rather than later. Kassadin is unlikely to help us now or later so we get him out of the radar when we have the chance.
You've continuously said you don't see "beneficial" side ofanythingwe've pulled so far in this game.
Is there anything whichyouthink is beneficial and would like to share??
P-Edit again: Yes yes.My GTKAS!
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@Trollie: I've never asked you to do anything. I just pointed out your actions up to that moment which looks identical to what MattP does. Mirror Moving is certainly not a Towntell for me and you asking if you should follow Matt on him is most certainly a Scumtell. Especially the way you said it which was like a cocky asswipe.
I honestly don't care if Matt introduced the game to you or whatever else he did, it is not relevant to this game except the fact that you are using that as an excuse to do something with the reason of another's.
I didn't say we require a Voting Block to get rid of Kassadin. What I said that I assumed Kondi was using that Block togetKassadin.
You have also not yet answered my question: Is there anything whichyouthink is beneficial to the Town?
You've so far said you don't want a Voting Block, you don't want Policy Lynches. Your reason? "They sound dumb"
Expecting a very intelligent answer from you Trollie.
Meanwhile:
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/facepalm.
I sleep, I wake up, we get 5 pages.
Kassadin is giving me Town vibes on this one albeit he's trying more than usual. Perhaps to avoid PL.
That's all I can say now... I might change my vote later...My GTKAS!
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↑ TheTrollie wrote:
↑ drmyshotgun wrote:Oh or are we the trusted circle?
seem pretty excited about this...
Lol, I was more like confused.My GTKAS!
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Anyone has a Vote Count?
Also, I'd love some summary and if there were burning questions for me.
To answer an immediate one BK asked: "WE" obviously means the list of people I saw in the Voting Block at that period.My GTKAS!
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???
Anyways, I'll give out the Vote Count
BK (3) - OmNom, Kondi, Vijay
Kondi (2) - BK, Chrimi
Drmyshotgun (1) - Trollie
Trollie (2) - Drmyshotgun, Morton
Venmar (1) - MattP
Not Voting: Kassadin, Darkling, Venmar, Psyche
It is intriguing the way Kassadin's playing in this game.
He says he wants to lynch MattP and yet no vote?? That is SOOO unlike him.
Also interesting thing of note, Chrimi has placed RVS on Kondi and it just stayed there. He didn't get a new suspect, didn't find more scummy things from Kondi, and yet its staying there..?
P-Edit: I want a free prize VOTE: BK
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BK: "We" as in the people Kondi included in Voting Block. Well, I hadn't read the entire thread when writing that point in that post so I actually felt as if therewasa Voting Block going on and I thought we (people listed in the VB) all liked him and was curious to see his absence.My GTKAS!
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Om, you didn't give me any Free Prize. Im going to go back to my little Trollie.
VOTE: Trollie
btw, I might not be on during the weekends as much as on weekdays. Just something to note.My GTKAS!
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Why do you include me in your sentence: "You guys can lynch me or shotgun"??
I certainly have no desire to get lynched and I willnotget lynched.
P-Edit: Om, so what if he flips Town?My GTKAS!
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↑ vijay2vasandani wrote:Oh that one? I just assumed he was talking about the trusted circle. Don't see that as a slip.
Thank you. Geez these lugheaded fools.
TheTrollie wrote:Shot was flip flopping a lot as to why the bloc was a good idea.
Where the FUCK did I say it was a good idea, you fuckhead?
I said I thought it was meant for Kassadin. Never gave it any single credit.My GTKAS!
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Fucking Trollie pisses the fuck out of me.
Claim: Cop
I'll leave it at chances to my survival at night. Meanwhile, discuss this and get the fuck off fuckers.
Not the first time I've done blatant Claim out of nowhere and the way this game was headed, needs some major fucking shift.My GTKAS!
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Scums would be fucking rejoicing now and Faith Healers will be fucking facepalming.
Do I give a shit? Fuck no.
I'm the fucking Cop and the rock-heads who were on me ranting and whining about my posts better fuck off with this shit.My GTKAS!
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No mean feat intended, Kondi probably meant it for a good purpose but you bailed out of it way too quickly when some people (including, oh wow, Trollie) pressured you.
But y'know I just had to comment on the activities and lo behold, people and their forks and torches start swarming up.
Why, you ask Trollie, are people ignoring your case? Cuz its fucking boring repetitive pile of shit.My GTKAS!
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Will Trollie come along and say: "Why, I dont believe that claim~~"? Perhaps so.
But now that I gave a fucking claim, I don't have to listen to the pile of shit you say. People will probably not listen to you too.My GTKAS!
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Kassadin is Town on this one. I just have strong feeling inside me.
Did anyone counter-claim? Frankly, can't be fucked to read all the shits and rants about CCings and all that shit.
If someone did, s/he is scum-fucks.My GTKAS!
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Why, go ahead if you want, but I want someone else to come along and vote you with a phony excuse if they even have one.
Kassadin is town (-_-) Even if I investigate him and get Town read, he still won't be much help to Town.
BK, just lynch him? Okay.
Trollie - No-one suspects this little shrimp, so I might go ahead on him.
You guys must know that if I do a search on someone completely random, I have my reasons and thoughts.
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Fine.
Scums will definitely take their chances on me but alright.
Kondi has a meta of immidiate hammering of himself...as many of us in this game knows that from a recent finished game, I think he may have used that to make a town read on himself.
He was scum in that game where he hammered without warning.My GTKAS!
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