I hate you all.
Kaze, Orci, town
Tammy-town?
VOTE: Fuzzy
Hi, Ffery who's you're partner?
I am treating her like a female version of NachoIn post 66, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:mac's alignment is more obvious than TIPs come page 20
I'm surprised you're willing to give Tammy a townread based on one post when you said a while ago that she slipped past you the last game
roflIn post 274, Nachomamma8 wrote:your RAWRI'MTOWNTOWNTOWNTOWNTOWN moments are usually moments where you have paranoid flashes, which don't make you any worse of a playerIn post 271, Deacon Blues wrote:I am secretly hoping that you will someday see me as a player who at least once in a blue moon does competent things besides RAWRI'MTOWNTOWNTOWNTOWNIn post 267, Nachomamma8 wrote:you better be butthurt
i do expect & ignore paranoid flashes when I see them though, just like I'll ignore Tammy after I lynch scum D1 and D2 and there are no kills N1 and N2 and she's like "Nacho I think you might be scum"
I like this post from you, I thinkIn post 84, Deacon Blues wrote:TheFuzzyLogic99 Meta
ISO of his first MS game, a Jungle Republic open game - Town
- He's played mafia elsewhere, this site was something of an adjustment
- He came under fire in that game, was at L-1 at one point on day 1
- His reactions to his accusers had some similarities in terms of how he pushed back, but he was pretty direct about his posts not being scummy
- he was callled out for being more experienced than he initially let on. He was indignant about it and insisted all he'd ever said was that it was his first gameat MS
- I wouldn't call his play passive aggressive in that game
- He was the N1K (the game was multiball - crosskill attempt?)
Spoiler: some example posts from this town game
ISO of Newbie 1433 - Scum
Spoiler: some example posts from scum game
ISO of Newbie 1447 - Town
- Pretty assertive in this game
- Day 1 ended really early only 11 posts.
- He was the N1K.
Spoiler: some example posts from this town game
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Back to this game:
This isn't as hedgy as the examples from the scum game above, but it is pretty defensive.In post 52, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ Kaze
I admit I fell for whatever trap this was suppose to be.. I saw PM and was thinking inbox. However this does not mean I am scum it means I scanned your message quickly and than responded. Anyone could of done this. This seems like lazy scum hunting at best and a scum trying to get an easy lynch on a newer ( and percieved weaker player) at worst. So tell me which one of these is your attempt.
@ Ornicus
How is being awkward scummy. This is saying that townies cant awkward....This seems like a huge stretched.
In his two completed town games, he was not mislynched.In post 60, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I dont know if Kaze is scummy....thats what I am trying to figure out. As far as his " attack" on me I dont find it nessarily scummy though I find it worth scrunity. I have been in
a couple game where scum have used my newness as way to get an easy lynch. This might not be the case but I think I should make sure.
This also is not as hedgy looking as his scum game.In post 71, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ Orcinus
This is how I see it....if he is town than he set up a test that was weak in order to catch scum or at least try to look like he trying to catch scum. If he is scum he set up a trap to ensnare a townie. I can not see any other possibility. If there are I am willing to listen . I admit I might have a narrow perspective on this bc I am involved. Still I am not unwilling to listen for rational explanations.
second off I have played several games so I know all roles comes in in your inbox. This includes town roles , scum roles and third party roles. To say that that i am scum bc I answered his question without saying that town do not get their message in their inbox and not through PM is just ridiculous. Not to mention the thing about the blue townie. Than to push it as absolute fact that I scum bc of this is scummy. Maybe I dont have the experience of playing with Kaze to know if this is his norm but from my experience this seems very suspicious . I guess it is him pushing this idea more than the test to be scummy ....especially since the test results have been proven unreliable.
It does not seem he has much of a case so he pushing the idea that I am scum based on a test . it feels like he keep repeating the same thing over and over again hoping it will stick.
Also....
being awkward is not really a alignment sign as far as I can tell but I am willing to hear why you think so
@ The Mrs
Why do you think Kraze is town
Why do you think I am scum
Thank you
I kinda like this post.In post 80, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ Kaze
I guess you could be just tunneling..... I seen it happens
As far as being defensive... I guess I was a bit. Mainly frustrated bc I was being accused of being scum with very weak argument and people were buying it. Yes being defensive is one sign of possible scumdown. However Town can be defensive as well
@ Orcanis
I can see where you coming from... Honestly I do not feel I have been awkward except for my first post. Can you show where I was being awkward.
There no absolute...until a player flips however if you push someone as being scum as hard as Kaze did means that you believe that he/ she is scum beyond a reasonable doubt. To push with weak unreliable evidence makes a person suspect. i don't care if he was pushing on me or another player.
Can you give me a good reason why I should believe Kaze is town?
@ Deacon and Pitoli
Curious about your reads so far
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I was expecting to do this meta dive and come away thinking Fuzzy is scum. It didn't work out that way. I don't think his replies in this game have the oily, hedgy, insinuative feel that his scum game had.
I've included a lot of detail because I doubt most players will go through the ISOs the way I have.
Was talking about her hydra partner...In post 150, Nachomamma8 wrote:i know this was a joke (probably) but you were voting fuzzy here?In post 64, Ms Marangal wrote:Hi, Ffery who's you're partner?
This is coming from you?In post 158, Tammy wrote:Just so you all know, there are too many quote stripers here. I mean I guess it's a nice balance to the spam posting ala moi but dayum, my eyes glazes over.
I will actually read the game when not skimming on my phone later, just wanted to whine. Oh and I want to give fuzzy a hug, which means he's town.
ohmaigodnoIn post 252, Nachomamma8 wrote:Rufflig scum is entirely possible, but I find him an easy early wagon. Let's continue killing prohawk!
How about, You talk to me directly when I'm not sick. and when the game is open for more than a week and I'm not doing shit, then maybe you have the means to be suspicious about my inactivity but not when the game has only lived three days.In post 313, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:when should we talk about mara?In post 311, Deacon Blues wrote:fery
You've gotten better, but I am not at a point where I feel comfortable with outing them all, yet.In post 333, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Mrs. Marangal
What are your reads so far
Your vote on me early on did not seem to have any basis...please explain your reason for voting for me
what is your thought on the Pro-hawk wagon
reasoning he had with his voteIn post 399, Deacon Blues wrote:What specifically gave you a townread on prohawk?In post 395, Ms Marangal wrote:I think both Nacho votes are coming from town
No.In post 414, Tammy wrote:Is this sarcasm?In post 368, Ms Marangal wrote:This is coming from you?In post 158, Tammy wrote:Just so you all know, there are too many quote stripers here. I mean I guess it's a nice balance to the spam posting ala moi but dayum, my eyes glazes over.
I will actually read the game when not skimming on my phone later, just wanted to whine. Oh and I want to give fuzzy a hug, which means he's town.
Kinda?In post 446, Deacon Blues wrote:@mara: Just about the gamestate in general? Let's just narrow the scope a bit:
Who are your biggest reads in either direction and why?
Amen.In post 457, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote: This game is giving me a headache...Cant make really head or tails between who is scum and whose a nice blue townie. Curse you scum for making it so hard.
I know I'm more than a little detached, but I don't think it's that badIn post 485, Deacon Blues wrote:I'm at work (well after hours till rehearsal) - my father in law is in town this whole week; my fmla starts next week.
"Why is nachoscum" => Answered in the post
"why am I so low on that null-list" => Your posts have been almost entirely either 1) unrelated to the gamestate [because they are either meta generalities or fluff] or 2) unexplained reads, which I would like you to explain
"why is Ruffling and Pitoli so high?" => Pitoli is probably gut but I think she mostly ended up there because I moved others around. I don't actually have that much on her. Rufflig I actually like what he's doing from the standpoint of applying pressure to people, once I figured out that's what he was doing.
Still, these are all in a single tier and are not terribly far apart.
that list of reads isn't really put in order (the bolded are reads that are fairly strong)In post 583, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Could you explain your vote on me and why you have me at the bottom of your scum list. Your vote seem a bit random
What have I done, up to this point that gave you that town read?
There's stuff like this that's bothering the fuck out of me.In post 608, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:How about this
Your comment about No Hana being a more active lurker makes no sense since she has posted alot more than you , have tried to scum hunt and tried to make reads. You answer came off as hypocritical and ungenuine. Your vote on me seems to be based on playstyle... which a better player would know not to do. Honestly this seems like an attack on me bc I questioned if you were scum and were possible going to vote for you. As for your excuse for not replacing out I just dont buy it.... Your vote on Hana seems like a bit of a stretch. Sorry but I am reading you as scum
VOTE: MafiaSSK
In post 618, Ms Marangal wrote:and, you're hurting my head more than it should be hurting
I want to get rid of that.
(snip)
In post 620, Ms Marangal wrote:and, back to fuzzy
There's stuff like this that's bothering the fuck out of me.In post 608, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:How about this
Your comment about No Hana being a more active lurker makes no sense since she has posted alot more than you , have tried to scum hunt and tried to make reads. You answer came off as hypocritical and ungenuine. Your vote on me seems to be based on playstyle... which a better player would know not to do. Honestly this seems like an attack on me bc I questioned if you were scum and were possible going to vote for you. As for your excuse for not replacing out I just dont buy it.... Your vote on Hana seems like a bit of a stretch. Sorry but I am reading you as scum
VOTE: MafiaSSK
Do you know what active lurking is?
because Minami No Hana active lurking and SSK Lurking make sense, albiet it's a little weird to bring that up at this point in time but I can kinda understand where he is coming from in that regard
and I don't even know why you're apologizing to... someone you think is... scum...
Pedit: Nope, not really. Tammy doesn't bother me she's "easy to manipulate" and I'll be able to do it with time
I am not all that interested in talking to you, really.In post 664, The Rufflig wrote:(snip)
@Ms Marangal:Talk to me about your FuzzyLogic vote. It seems to me that you ought to have a reason for your votes by this point. However, while I see lots of reads in your postings, I see almost no reasoning behind them. This vote isn't going anywhere without some pushing - pushing that neither you or anyone else is providing.
Well, yeah but it still stands that you have used that reason on people who you think is scum but then end up mis-lynching thus not something I really wanna follow.In post 665, Nachomamma8 wrote:Probably. I've also used it when pushing for a few scum lynches!In post 660, Ms Marangal wrote:I'm pretty sure you have used the "You aren't playing town-you" argument against me when you pushed for my mis-lynch in a game. Nacho.
Scum slip?In post 680, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ Pit
Understandable.... the fact is that I ask alot of questions.... this is how I play even my town game. I like to get all the info I can before I make an accusation. I gather info by acting question. And yes I am unfoccused however I am almost always unfocused. This is who I am. I not going to apologize for that. Being unfocused is one of the many hazard of being Fuzzy. I learned to deal with it in my own way.I can become focused if something gets my attention. You can see that in the way I post.