Open 658 Making Friends and Enemies | Game Over

Titus · Post Post #1426 (isolation #0) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:00 am

In post 1040, Io wrote:
Vote 1.99
Gamma Emerald (Lynched): Creature, Dunnstral, tojam2, Burgerking, sad1492, Transcend, Secret Agent Jin

Transcend (L-5): Aubrey, Gamma Emerald
Burgerking (L-5): Flubbernugget, BK201
tojam2 (L-6): oddmusic
sad1492 (L-6): mhsmith0

Not voting:

13 players alive majority is 7.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-11-16 12:00:00)

Gamma Emerald will be lynched!

In post 1417, Io wrote:
Vote 2.04
mhsmith0 (Lynched): Transcend, Creature, havingfitz, Dunnstral, Secret Agent Jin, sad1492

Transcend (L-4): Flubbernugget,
Secret Agent Jin (L-5): mhsmith0
Flubbernugget (L-5): tojam2
BK201 (L-5): Burgerking
Burgerking (L-5): BK201

11 players alive majority is 6.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-11-28 07:00:00)

mhsmith0 will be lynched!

BurgerKing also failed to pick up his prod and will be replaced.

Titus · Post Post #1427 (isolation #1) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:02 am

VOTE: sad1492

Havingfits would be my other guess skimming through mod ISO.

Titus · Post Post #1497 (isolation #2) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:54 am

VLA until Friday

Happy Turkey day

Titus · Post Post #1520 (isolation #3) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:28 am

Sorry I had no clue this started. Please send a daystart pm.

Titus · Post Post #1521 (isolation #4) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:29 am

Lol. I am really bad. This game didn't have night. Sorry I retract.

Titus · Post Post #1522 (isolation #5) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:37 am

VOTE: Aubrey

That's where I want to go.

I am a VT. So if you want to lynch me, go ahead. It will protect the masons. I won't be asking much of questions because masons do set off red flags for me. I joined this to learn to distinguish between mason and scum.

Titus · Post Post #1525 (isolation #6) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:34 am

*goes back to vcs*

Titus · Post Post #1527 (isolation #7) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:37 am

VOTE: Secret Agent Jim

Titus · Post Post #1537 (isolation #8) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:12 pm

@Creature, Not bussing but whatever gets you voting scum today. If a goon dies and a VT gets shot, scum will be up shit creek.

Toejam would be my second choice for the record.

@Secret Agent Jin, The VCA told me to. :-p Deal with it.

Titus · Post Post #1543 (isolation #9) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:46 am

Hey, Jin's posting on this page alone is enough.

1) I vote Jin.
2) He wants to work through my reasonong, as if he knows I am town.
3) VC happens
4) Jin attempts to throw mud at Creature, while saying he "could agree on me".
5)Jin pleads for people to get off "because they'll look bad" which is inconsistent with both mafia allegedly being on his wagon.

Bonus 1539 looks copied from a scum pt.

Titus · Post Post #1548 (isolation #10) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:21 am

Creature, no one is going to realistically unvote my wagon. SAJ and toejam = scumzirs. BK is lurkerdom.

As such, I would be a moron to unvote.

Noted but denied

Titus · Post Post #1550 (isolation #11) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:49 am

Yup, mason fishing.

Your attitude is pretty transparent.

It's not up to you to get a CC, someone vouches for you.
If no one vouches, we lynch you.
If someone vouches, then we check CCs.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:18 am

If you are a real mason, someone would vouch for you. That's the point of masons.

If you're scum, no one will vouch for you. That would create an impossible setup for scum (needing two mislynches with only one open).

Yet, you are likely scum.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:19 am

Given you already claimed VT and now when I cannot unvote, you suddenly claim mason...not how it works.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:41 am

Well, that's 3 players we know are not lying to save you SAJ.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:42 am

In post 1555, Creature wrote:Someone will have to counterclaim mason if you want me to lynch SAJ.

Please do not tell me I had the buddy wrong.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:45 am

Wrong. No town dies if he is town.

If he's scum, a mason outs themselves and it's not too long to find the other mason. That's why I approached the game like I did.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:47 am

This is a pretty blatant masonfish imo.

I'm a VT.
I'm a mason.
LaL until proven otherwise.
Not to mention his scummy play.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:48 am

In post 1561, Creature wrote:So far no counterclaims.

I am not a mason, but I wouldn't counterclaim here if I was one.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:48 am

My plan is better for town as no mason has to out themselves unless we are way off track and need the assust.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:50 am

In post 1564, Creature wrote:What's better? One mason out with a regular chance of scum finding the other mason or two masons out?

Two masons. (Supposing I am wrong)

Lynches become nigh on impossible for scum.
The masons have wills and night chat.

I am not wrong.

We force SAJ's scumbuddy to fry SAJ if scum.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:55 am

Add night kills

Creature/SAJ plan

SAJ town) SAJ dead. No information.
SAJ scum) Mason dead (whoever CCs). No info.

Titus plan
SAJ town) Mason dead, conftown present; lynches insane on scum.
SAJ scum) Dead scum, masons hidden.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:56 am

Oh and if SAJ is town, they get the entire nightphase to share reads.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:57 am

In post 1570, Creature wrote:Also, another downfall of your plan is that, if SAJ is lying, even if no mason outed scum might still kill one of them.

That downfall exists in any setup.

It's much less likely though if we do not help them by giving a CC.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:11 am

In post 1574, Creature wrote:What if we try to lynch the other scum?

I am not unvoting SAJ without a vouch.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:19 am

Why are you talking about lylo Creature?

If someone vouches for SAJ, we get two confirms.

We'd have to mislynch twice in a row to get to 3p lylo and the masons would have major influence.

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:21 am

That also supposes we cannot hunt using the information gathered by knowing two masons.

Creature, are you scum?

Titus · Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:23 am

In post 1581, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
In post 1579, BK201 wrote:
In post 1574, Creature wrote:What if we try to lynch the other scum?
How do you suggest we do that without any confirms/flips. I'm voting for who I believe is scum, it's less reliable to go for who I think that person's partner is because I have to be right about 2 things instead of 1 thing. Same goes for everyone on SAJ wagon too.
You are right about the vote for who you think is scum thing but the problem is everyone on my wagon will be prime suspects tomorrow after my flip.

So what? It's how the game is played.

I don't care about looking bad. I care about catching scum, which you likely are.

Stop trying to pass off your survivalism as paternalism. Both make me want to lynch you.

Titus · Post Post #1585 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:17 pm

A mason and hopefully no one.

Titus · Post Post #1587 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:33 pm

Pretty sure you are the only non voter Creature. So why are you saying not to hammer?

We also need to give everyone time to vouch or not. That is unless you already know SAJ is scum.

Titus · Post Post #1589 (isolation #30) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:22 pm

^^^ SAJ has no partner and is trying to make me look bad or draw a CC.

Titus · Post Post #1591 (isolation #31) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:27 pm

^^ Tried to fakeclaim mason and is desperately squirming to get out of it.

Titus · Post Post #1594 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:22 pm

In post 1592, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Answer me this: Why would i claim mason as scum when the masons could just vote me without revealing?

Scum (meaning you) don't know who the masons are. They want a CC to help the last scum.

The ideal play is for your buddy to vouch for you, thus triggerring unvotes or you to be outed scum.

Titus · Post Post #1617 (isolation #33) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:43 am

In post 1609, tojam2 wrote:
In post 1543, Titus wrote:Hey, Jin's posting on this page alone is enough.

1) I vote Jin.
2) He wants to work through my reasonong, as if he knows I am town.
3) VC happens
4) Jin attempts to throw mud at Creature, while saying he "could agree on me".
5)Jin pleads for people to get off "because they'll look bad" which is inconsistent with both mafia allegedly being on his wagon.

Bonus 1539 looks copied from a scum pt.
I was pretending to hammer.

That doesn't work. You had a vote tag and a tag in the same post.

Titus · Post Post #1618 (isolation #34) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:45 am

Seems like my plan is being followed. Good.

So, the question is if Creature gets smart and follows my plan or if he's scum with SAJ or masons being infuratingly stubborn to stupid plan.

Titus · Post Post #1621 (isolation #35) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:49 am

UNVOTE: SAJ

VOTE: toejam

Titus · Post Post #1625 (isolation #36) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:53 am

@Creature, There will not be any.

Scum need two mislynches. If someone CCs, we lynch them unless the partner vouches. We cannot get dual CCs because that means scum lose. That's why I insisted on the vouch happening. If SAJ was scum, it meant autodeath or scumloss. Since you are claiming SAJ's mason buddy, that cannot be it.

Titus · Post Post #1628 (isolation #37) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:01 am

Nah, it's framing a T v T.

I didn't express how masons should claim until

after

I was wagpned.

Titus · Post Post #1629 (isolation #38) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:23 am

Havingfitz is my money for toejam's partner ftr.

Titus · Post Post #1679 (isolation #39) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:06 am

That hammer by fitz should have been autolynch.

My reads were starting to correct and fitz just hammered.

Not sure I would have caught bk though without vote funny stuff.