NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Pine]

Project Pinecone

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Shhhhhh!

The baby is sleeping, you monsters. I swear to Mith, I will eviscerate the next person who wakes her.

What, a Mafia game?

Fine.

Just keep it down.

Still rocking the cradle (Alive):

3. Ausuka*
4. brassherald
5. the worst
8. Skygazer
9. Jingle

Inferno390

10. Chickadee*
12. HeWhoSwims*
14. Raskolnikov
15. Irrelephant11

Taly

davesaz

16. Nosferatu

Andrius

Gustavo

WOKE THE BABY (Dead):

13. Flubbernugget -

Vanilla Townie

(Lynched Day One)
6. dramonic -

Mafia Prime-Number-Night Jailkeeper

(Killed Night One)
11. xyzzy -

Town Hider

(Lynched Day Two)
1. Almost50 -

Vanilla Townie

(Killed Night Two)
17. Profii -

Mafia Goon

(Lynched Day Three)
2. Kokichi Oma -

Mafia Disloyal Fruit Vendor

(Killed Night Three)
7. Gamma Emerald -

Town Detective

(Killed Night Three)

Important events

Start of Day One (Risk!) | Andrius replaces Gustavo | Taly replaces davesaz | Day Ends (Flubbernugget lynched)
Start of Day Two (Munchkin!)| dramonic killed in the night! | Almost50 replaces Elbirn | Gamma Emerald replaces HitAlt | Nosferatu replaces Andrius | Jingle replaces Inferno390 | Day Ends (xyzzy lynched)

Vote Counts

1.0 | 1.1 | 1.2 | 1.3 | 1.4 | 1.5 | 1.6 | 1.7 | 1.8 | 1.9
2.0 | 2.1 | 2.2 | 2.3 | 2.4 | 2.5 | 2.6 | 2.7 | 2.8 | 2.9 | 2.10

[Pine]

1. The site-wide rules and Boilerplate Mafiascum Game Rules are in play. Please know them.
2. Be nice. I will be the arbiter of what 'nice' is. Mafia is an adversarial game by nature, but personal hostility and toxicity will not be tolerated.
3. Do not discuss the game outside the game thread, except with the moderator, unless your Role PM specifies that you may do so. Do not discuss other ongoing games in this thread or in any topics you might have access to.
4. You may ask me questions either in the thread or via PM. For some questions, I may be willing to answer via PM but not in-thread for a variety of reasons.
5. Do not quote private communication with me directly. Paraphrasing is acceptable; if you're not sure whether a post violates this rule, ask me or don't post it. You also may not pretend to quote communications with me. This includes your Role PM.
6. My color is

DARK ORANGE

; please don't use it.
7. No dice tags or otherwise provably arbitrary algorithms.
8. Do not attempt to emulate out-of-thread communication using encryption or hidden/obscured text.
9. I reserve the right to warn, force-replace, or modkill as I deem necessary. Don't push it.
10. I reserve the right to add to or change the rules.

Procedural Rules

1. If you wish to vote for a player, please use vote tags or bold tags. That said, if you forget the tags, your vote will still count if it is clear to me that a vote was intended.
2. A player is considered lynched when he or she reaches a number of votes equal to half the number of living players rounded down plus one.
3. You may continue discussion in twilight before I show up and lock the thread. Do not post after I officially state that you are dead.
4. If no majority is reached by deadline there will be No Lynch.
5. Days will have a non-negotiable deadline of 2 weeks. I may choose to extend a deadline in special circumstances, but it's unlikely. Don't count on it.
6. Nights last 48 hours.
7. Prods go out after 48 hours. Failure to post in a timely fashion after a prod, or accumulating several prods, may result in force replacement at my discretion.
8. As per Normal rules, you may not use a role-based ability in the same night as a factional ability (including factional kill) unless your role PM specifically permits you.
9. All Private Topics, including any Mafia factions, have daytalk enabled.
10. Don't do things you know you shouldn't do, even if I've neglected to include a rule on the matter. Likewise, attempts to circumvent these rules via semantics will be treated harshly.

What follows are sample role PMs for a Vanilla Townie and a Mafia Goon:

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie Role PM

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Vanilla Townie

. You have no special powers.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Spoiler: Mafia Goon Role PM

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Mafia Goon

. You have no special powers, though you may execute your team's factional kill.

You have access to a Private Thread with your faction, found

here.

Additional information on your factional composition may be found there. You may communicate with your team at any time.

Win Condition: You win if the your team eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

[Pine]

Reserved

[Pine]

16/17 players have confirmed. Game will open shortly.

[Pine]

Hush, little baby, don't say a word.
Papa's gonna buy you a mockingbird

And if that mockingbird won't sing,
Papa's gonna buy you a diamond ring

And if that diamond ring turns brass,
Papa's gonna buy you a looking glass

And if that looking glass gets broke,
Papa's gonna buy you a billy goat

And if that billy goat won't pull,
Papa's gonna buy you a cart and bull

And if that cart and bull turn over,
Papa's gonna buy you a dog named Rover

And if that dog named Rover won't bark
Papa's gonna buy you a horse and cart

And if that horse and cart fall down,
You'll still be the sweetest little baby in town.

There we go...I think she's asleep. Okay, guys, we can play in the dining room while Pinecone's in the swing. God, it's nice to spend time with adults. For certain values of the word "adult," am I right? Hehehe, you guys get it. Beer's in the fridge, let's get some chips and dip on the table...just remember to keep it down, okay?

Arright, how about we start with a game of Risk while we're all still sober.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 1.0 <==

With 17 votes in play, it's 9 to lynch!

Pine deals out the territory cards face down. Risk only allows for six people, but we're all friends, right? There's eighteen of us, so we quickly split into three teams. The board is quickly populated with miniature figurines of infantry, cavalry, and artillery, and the setup is completed.

[L-9]

Elbirn -

[L-9]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-9]

Ausuka -

[L-9]

brassherald -

[L-9]

the worst -

[L-9]

dramonic -

[L-9]

HitAlt -

[L-9]

Skygazer -

[L-9]

Inferno390 -

[L-9]

Chickadee -

[L-9]

xyzzy -

[L-9]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-9]

Flubbernugget -

[L-9]

Raskolnikov -

[L-9]

davesaz -

[L-9]

Gustavo -

[L-9]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Everyone!

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-09 15:40:00)

[Pine]

Before we go any further.

Please remember that one of the premises of this game is a relaxed atmosphere. I lured convinced some of you here on the basis of a friendly game, so I'll be leaning into the anti-toxicity rules. Play nice, or gtfo.

Solid Mrs. Doubtfire GIF, Chickadee. *thumbsup*

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[Pine]

Also, Risk is a stupid game. Let's play Munchkins instead.

Small World is better than Risk.

I would be open to crowdsourcing D2's game. I have both Munchin and Small World

Anyone maligning Risk loses their vote though.

[Pine]

Don't wake the baby, you dicks.

[Pine]

Almost 9 pages already before 24 hours are up? Do you people not understand what a chill game means?

Yeah, right? Seriously people, help yourself to the booze. That's what it's here for.

The Marvel Netflix series are pretty good, by the way. Except Iron Fist, I watched like 5 episodes of that then gave up.

I liked all of them. Iron Fist was the least good, and the cultural appropriation was cringe-y, but it's not as bad as the negative hype.

VC incoming.

[Pine]

Almost 9 pages already before 24 hours are up? Do you people not understand what a chill game means?

Yeah, right? Seriously people, help yourself to the booze. That's what it's here for.

As I said before, I’m underage.
Got any Coca-Cola?

Try the punch. I'm suuuure no one's spiked it.

*wink*

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 1.1 <==

With 17 votes in play, it's 9 to lynch!

The first round of turns goes more or less as expected. Everyone consolidates their most dense areas, and abandons isolated territories. Pine, of course, dumps his entire troop complement into Australia, while other teams carve up the Americas, Africa, and Europe. The black and grey teams get stuck in a land war in Asia, because they're dumb. That's always a sucker's bet.

[L-9]

Elbirn -

[L-9]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-9]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald - davesaz

[L-8]

the worst - HeWhoSwims

[L-8]

dramonic - HitAlt

[L-9]

HitAlt -

[L-8]

Skygazer - Ausuka

[L-8]

Inferno390 - dramonic

[L-9]

Chickadee -

[L-9]

xyzzy -

[L-9]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-8]

Flubbernugget - MagnaofIllusion

[L-6]

Raskolnikov - the worst, xyzzy, Skygazer

[L-8]

davesaz - Raskolnikov

[L-5]

Gustavo - Elbirn, Inferno390, Profii, brassherald

[L-8]

Profii - Gustavo

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Chickadee, Flubbernugget

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-09 15:40:00)

[Pine]

Hey guys

Chill or gtfo

[Pine]

Don't make me put you guys in time out.

Why don't you all back down and go to your corners?

[Pine]

@mod How many Marvel gifs am I allowed to post before it is too many for this game? I might be close to that already.

There's no limit (moar baby Groot!) but I do want to point out that the five of you (brass, Gustavo, tw, Profii, inferno) have almost double the number of posts as the rest of the players combined.

Chill isn't just about playing nice, it's also about letting others play.

[Pine]

Y’all can go ahead and lynch me. My earlier statement about the people in this game stands.

VOTE: gustavo

Let this serve as a formal warning -

Play nice with others, or you will be replaced.

Play to your wincon, or you will be replaced.

A second warning will not be given.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 1.2 <==

With 17 votes in play, it's 9 to lynch!

Sometimes, in a game of Risk, people make bold moves early, and try to seize enemy territory before it gets fully consolidated. Not so this time. Black decided to give up on Asia and dig into South America, but those gray idiots are still slugging it out in Asia, this time with green. Everyone else is fortifying their borders. A few quiet "back room" deals go down, and with a wink and a nod, Central America becomes a demilitarized zone as a resurgent black focuses on the blue Africans, and the red North Americans seal their borders after picking off the last stragglers of opposing armies. Meanwhile, Pine's yellow forces slowly creep up out of Australia to menace, but not engage, the combatants in Asia from a position of strength.

[L-9]

Elbirn -

[L-9]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-9]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald - davesaz

[L-8]

the worst - HeWhoSwims

[L-8]

dramonic - HitAlt

[L-9]

HitAlt -

[L-8]

Skygazer - Raskolnikov

[L-8]

Inferno390 - dramonic

[L-9]

Chickadee -

[L-9]

xyzzy -

[L-9]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-6]

Flubbernugget - MagnaofIllusion, Ausuka, brassherald

[L-6]

Raskolnikov - the worst, xyzzy, Skygazer

[L-9]

davesaz -

[L-5]

Gustavo - Elbirn, Inferno390, Profii, Gustavo

[L-9]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Chickadee, Flubbernugget

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-09 15:40:00)

[Pine]

Inferno390 has requested replacement.

I'm getting a little tired of saying this so early, but find a way to get along with one another or find another game. This was intended to be a low-pressure friendly game, and I'm not afraid of enforcing that rule.

[Pine]

Okay, I've tried being low-key about this, I've tried being direct, and it doesn't seem to be working. In consultation with the listmod, I am invoking Rules #2 and #9:

2. Be nice. I will be the arbiter of what 'nice' is. Mafia is an adversarial game by nature, but personal hostility and toxicity will not be tolerated.
9. I reserve the right to warn, force-replace, or modkill as I deem necessary. Don't push it.

Gustavo will be force-replaced.

I'm sorry, but after multiple player complaints and three public warnings, one of them addressed directly to you, with no change in behavior, you're out. Picking a fight with me over my ruleset is a bridge too far. As stated in the rules, Mafia is indeed an adversarial game, but your rhetoric has been entirely too harsh and personal. If you have a problem with this, feel free to take it up with the listmod (implosion).

As the deadline is nowhere near expired, it will not be paused while a replacement is found.

Inferno may stay, assuming he wants to, with a warning directed at him to cool his jets.

Brassherald also receives a warning for same.

Don't bring toxicity into my game.

[Pine]

Thread locked while an appeal is resolved. If this lasts longer than a few hours, deadline will be modified.

[Pine]

Andrius replaces Gustavo.

It is my sincere hope that we can put this unpleasant business behind us and move on friendly-like. If anyone would like to rehash what happened, please feel free not to. If you have any questions, please direct them to me by PM.

The game resumes with no effect on the deadline.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 1.3 <==

With 17 votes in play, it's 9 to lynch!

<Yeah I'm not going to bother matching the picture to the flavor anymore, too hard to find plausible images.>

A new round commences, and things aren't looking good for gray. Three turns in, and they've spent most of their capital on futile attempts to take Asia. Sensing imminent defeat, gray turtles up, taking a single territory and drawing the remnants of their shattered forces in to Ural to survive for reinforcements. The red team takes the opportunity and sweeps through northeastern Asia, taking a handful of lightly-defended territories with little resistance. Green does the same, taking a couple of western Asian regions and effectively reducing gray to their single strong base. Black and blue, meanwhile, are engaged in a struggle on the South America-Africa border, spending lives frivolously in a stalemate, neither managing to breach the other. Pine continues his slow, powerful roll up through southern Asia, taking India, China, and Siberia, holding all three strongly and not pressing his advantage.

[L-9]

Elbirn -

[L-9]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-9]

Ausuka -

[L-9]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst - HeWhoSwims

[L-8]

dramonic - Inferno390

[L-9]

HitAlt -

[L-4]

Skygazer - Raskolnikov, HitAlt, the worst, brassherald, Ausuka

[L-9]

Inferno390 -

[L-9]

Chickadee -

[L-9]

xyzzy -

[L-9]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-8]

Flubbernugget - MagnaofIllusion

[L-8]

Raskolnikov - xyzzy

[L-9]

davesaz -

[L-7]

Andrius - Elbirn, Profii

[L-9]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Chickadee, Flubbernugget, dramonic, Skygazer, davesaz, Andrius

Raskolnikov is on V/LA.
The Gustavo/Andrius vote was moved to the Not Voting category by moderator decision.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-09 15:40:00)

[Pine]

Why don't we just let the mod mediate arguments?

[Pine]

Nah you're good

[Pine]

replace out -- mean it this time

I'm done with mafia.

That's strictly a health thing btw. Sorry Pine, I'm old and I don't like the physical effects of raging any more.

No hard feelings! You do you, and take care of yourself. I hope you don't give up on Mafia altogether, maybe just take a break from it and see if another approach works.

Taly replaces davesaz. Welcome!

VC incoming sometime soon.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 1.4 <==

With 17 votes in play, it's 9 to lynch!

It's that time of the game where the pressure is really on. It's do-or-die time - make your move or gtfo. Black hurls everything it has into taking North Africa, and manages to eke out a victory. They've really spent everything they had on the attrition game, though, and hold most of their few territories with only a single soldier. It looks like they were gambling on getting a card set to recoup losses, but from the crestfallen expressions on some of the team's faces, it didn't happen. Blue easily retakes North Africa with its Egyptian forces, but doesn't bother defending their borders. They know they can't hold them - instead, it looks like they'll be making a push to wipe black out and seize their cards. Red sees the opportunity, though, and drops all of their reinforcements into the Mexican border, sweeping down into South America with a rueful shrug at the broken alliance. Fortunately (or unfortunately) black gets a run of good luck and manages to hold on to a measly single region. They're essentially screwed, but could possibly be a kingmaker. Green takes a good long look at gray, also eyeing the card stack in their possession, but decides not to overextend and instead hits Greenland...hard. They take the North American territory, breaking red's hold on the continent, and fortify the hell out of it to deny their opponent the bonus. Yellow continues its slow build in southeast Asia, devouring two more territories while keeping its forces concentrated in as few well-defended border zones as possible.

[L-9]

Elbirn -

[L-8]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-9]

Ausuka -

[L-9]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst - HeWhoSwims

[L-8]

dramonic - Inferno390

[L-9]

HitAlt -

[L-4]

Skygazer - Raskolnikov, HitAlt, the worst, brassherald, Ausuka

[L-9]

Inferno390 - xyzzy

[L-9]

Chickadee -

[L-9]

xyzzy -

[L-9]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-7]

Flubbernugget - Profii, Chickadee

[L-8]

Raskolnikov - Andrius

[L-5]

Taly - Flubbernugget, MagnaofIllusion, dramonic, Elbirn

[L-9]

Andrius -

[L-9]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Skygazer, Taly

Raskolnikov is on V/LA.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-09 15:40:00)

[Pine]

[L-9] HitAlt -

There has to be at least one mistake in this votecount because someone just voted me...I think?
No hard feelings if I'm mistaken?

It isn't an error.

[Pine]

VC some time this afternoon.

[Pine]

Pine

, can I get uuuuhhhhhhhhhh... boneless votecount (also can you update the OP with Taly replacing?)

p-edit: that's a fun way of asking me not to vote for you. I'll join a wagon if one starts tho

Working on it right now

Let this serve as notification, I am

slightly

V/LA this week.

As anyone familiar with my GTKAS or game-planning may be aware, I have worked at a summer camp for...Jesus, 18 years now. We're in our intensive week-long staff training. I'm senior staff, but I do the fun program stuff. I have a good deal of free/unstructured time, but a lot of it is devoted to planning activities. Given the pace of the game, I decided not to avail myself of my back-up mod's services (Aristophanes, should it become relevant). I will make a concerted effort to post at least one content-filled Vote Count per day. My schedule should relax on Friday (most of my training responsibilities are midweek) and then settle into a highly scheduled but very regular pattern.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 1.5 <==

With 17 votes in play, it's 9 to lynch!

After a long and eventful turn, the game is clearly moving into its final stages. Gambits have been made and broken, and now it's time for the victors to clean up the board. Black adds its measly reinforcements to the board, and openly discusses its options. They don't have the manpower to recover, but they can likely blunt or cripple another player. They've been fighting blue all game, and blue is clearly in position to eliminate the team regardless of what black does, but...they had a deal with red. Black aims its small army northward, and actually manages to fight its way into Central America before running out of steam. They take a card with a tip of the hat towards blue. The blue team, true to form, returns the respectful gesture, and absolutely steamrolls black. Blue takes all of South America and pushes up into the north, finally eliminating the black team. They take the cards from their fallen opponent, and per the rules, are obligated to immediately turn them in...and also the set they were already holding. A veritable flood of blue soldiers suddenly dumps into Central America, and the blue team routs red out of North America, even evicting green from Greenland. They end turn horribly over-extended...but holding three continents. Gray also turns in a cardset, and finally makes a move. They use the bludgeon of their single massive stack to hammer into green's border forces and force their way into Europe, taking the eastern half before retiring. Red spends its turn (and cards) rallying its Asian forces in an unsuccessful bid to retake North America, though they do crack blue's monopoly there. Lastly, the yellow team finally makes its big move on Asia, turning in its card set and sweeping the remaining red and gray forces from the continent, restoring its border forces in the Middle East, Ukraine, and Kamchatka.

[L-9]

Elbirn -

[L-9]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-9]

Ausuka -

[L-9]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst - HeWhoSwims

[L-8]

dramonic - brassherald

[L-8]

HitAlt - Inferno390

[L-7]

Skygazer - HitAlt, Ausuka

[L-8]

Inferno390 - xyzzy

[L-9]

Chickadee -

[L-9]

xyzzy -

[L-9]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-3]

Flubbernugget - Profii, Chickadee, Raskolnikov, the worst, Taly, MagnaofIllusion

[L-8]

Raskolnikov - Andrius

[L-7]

Taly - Flubbernugget, dramonic

[L-9]

Andrius -

[L-9]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Skygazer, Elbirn

No one is in prod range, though a few players are close! Get posting.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-09 15:40:00)

[Pine]

Could've sworn flubber was at L-2. Maybe that was before the corrections? Maybe I'm blind? Could be both.

Mod error, my bad. I had brassherald voting in two places.

[Pine]

@Mod

can we get an updated VC

Yes, soon. Need to go make burgers and dogs for 70 people.

[Pine]

@Mod

can we get an updated VC

Yes, soon. Need to go make burgers and dogs for 70 people.

I can do this if you like! =D

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 1.6 <==

With 17 votes in play, it's 9 to lynch!

The fifth turn starts with every team in a precarious position. Everyone is either overextended or severely disadvantaged. Blue begins, cashing in its continent bonuses for South America and Africa, with a sizeable dynamic bonus simply for holding almost half the map...if weakly. They shore up their defenses in northern Africa, and use the rest of their income to polish off the reds in Canada. Seizing red's cards, blue fortifies its holdings, though it doesn't bother trying to contest North America. Green finally makes its move, cashing in a card set and exploding out of the remnants of its European misadventure. They warm up by eliminating the pernicious grays in Europe, ending their ambition for a comeback, and then march south, barreling into Africa. Egypt falls, and blue pauses. They confer for a moment with Pine and his yellow team, and end with an accord that sees yellow agreeing to withdraw from Europe and leave green alone, and in exchange both teams will focus on the blue threat. Thus agreed, green presses forth in Africa, and chases blue from its ancestral home. On yellow's turn, they honor the treaty and pivot for North America, the hordes of troops granted from the combined Asia and Australia bonuses sufficient to overwhelm the guard in Alaska and crush its way all the way to the Mexican border.

[L-9]

Elbirn -

[L-9]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-9]

Ausuka -

[L-9]

brassherald -

[L-9]

the worst -

[L-8]

dramonic - brassherald

[L-3]

HitAlt - Inferno390, Andrius, Skygazer, dramonic, xyzzy, HeWhoSwims

[L-7]

Skygazer - HitAlt, Ausuka

[L-9]

Inferno390 -

[L-9]

Chickadee -

[L-9]

xyzzy -

[L-9]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-3]

Flubbernugget - Profii, Chickadee, Raskolnikov, the worst, Taly, MagnaofIllusion

[L-9]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly - Flubbernugget

[L-9]

Andrius -

[L-9]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Elbirn

Chickadee has been prodded. It is her first offense.
One other will be in prod range in a few hours.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-09 15:40:00)

[Pine]

Andrius, Elbirn, and HeWhoSwims have all been prodded. It is their first offense each.

Some reminders:

4. If no majority is reached by deadline there will be No Lynch.
5. Days will have a non-negotiable deadline of 2 weeks. I may choose to extend a deadline in special circumstances, but it's unlikely. Don't count on it.

I see no cause for a deadline extension at this time. Fair warning.

[Pine]

NOw that I can sit down at a computer, I'm gonna start calling BS.

-Early game, dramonic does hardly anything to interact with the game until #604, which is the top half of page 25. So very little real hunting from him early game.

Before that point I discussed reads on you and Gus, which is basically 80% of the in-game posts by that point

Oh, yes, your two posts saying: "Gus is town because of his 1v1" and "Gus is a specific type of player that makes what he did town, so Andrius is conftown."
And notice how I said "little hunting?" Plus I address your read on Gus below, and in context, it's more of taking a position on the current topic and trying to use it to push a replace in as conftown. (Which, by the way, your conftown claim is a bit of a stretch anyways. But that's another point.)

-He refuses to explain why Gus is Town because of “chill rules,” but when I point out Gus’ major inconsistencies, his only response is “you’re gonna be disappointed with people.” Plus, in #472 he talks about Gustavo’s argument and how he has to convince himself as scum and such. What argument? There was no arguments being had. So weak case for town!Gus, especially when challenged

Pretty sure anyone except you and Hit would understand exactly what I'm saying here.

Wow. Talk about blowing people off. dramonic, I don't know what sort of playstyles you think exist, but in what world does someone COMPLETELY REVERSE ON THEIR REASONS FOR A READ?

-He provides little in terms of actual reads

I've provided reads on like half the playerlist, dunno what you're smoking

I was not aware that I, Hit, the Andrius slot, the dave slot, Duck, and flubber composed 8 people. and there's about zero detail on any of them except for davesaz.
So yeah, you've given a handful of reads with little to no reasoning behind them.

-the davesaz wagon consists mostly of “you’re not being transparent enough” and no other real points and concerns are being stated

Transparency is 95% of what makes a player town.

Wrong. Good, logical, town benefiting hunting is 95% of what makes a player town. You an be as opaque as frick and no one will give a damn if you're advancing the gamestate in a way that benefits town.

-he’s actually just sheeping the Hit wagon. He’s added no relavant content to it

Again, you haven't actually read my ISO

Yes I have. And the one post you do have explaining your sheeping is more or less parroting exactly what I said at the start of the wagon.

-he’s done a total reverse on TW with no progression or reasoning except for that he’s defending Hit, who isn’t even confirmed scum yet

Reverse based on what?

Well, at the start of the game, you make it pretty clear that you think Duck is town. When he stats defending Hit, however, you just reverse on him with no outward indication of why.

-Is passive aggressively tunneling Taly despite giving no reads on him after davesaz replaces out

It's the same playerslot. I don't care what Taly has to say.

That would be called stupidity in action. You don't just ignore what a slot says because you think that the player from before was scum. At this point it's a level of confbias that isn't even dumb anymore. It's just scummy.

-only provided original reads on davesaz. No other original content from the slot after that exchange

See above

Above where? You are parroting, sheeping and generally coasting through this game, and providing little to a town-beneficial gamestate.

-Posturing pretty hard for accusing someone of posturing and not doing anything

... do you know what posturing means?

"A particular way of behaving that is intended to convey a false impression."
Such as:
Acting like you're a town leading role when you've actually done little to push the gamestate forward
Sheeping wagons and then acting like you've got some big read on the victim
Parsing a post to make it look like you're giving logical responses when you're actually just blowing of the poster's points

Other things I like about scum!dramonic:
-You've said that Andrius is conftown from the moment of his replace in an then proceeded to have 0 interaction with the slot.

That's a lovely accusation, except I've been on Taly's ass since before the replacement

-No you have not. You've posted about zip about taly except for the fact that you think he's scum. You've got no real case on him, you're just conftunneling his slot.

I did, several times. The fact youve got a confbias doesn't make things not there.

-Confbias? What confbias? I started scum reading you literally right before this post was made. What?

In conclusion, dramonic is either blowing off my points or trying to reverse the work of defending himself onto me (which is a super scum thing to do btw), not contributing to a good town gamestate, and providing reads without actually giving his own reasons for them.

If we don't lynch dramonic today, I will be sad.

DO NOT USE ORANGE.

[Pine]

Also, I move that if dramonic’s level of trashy nasty bait play continues, he get replaced out.
I’m sorry, but no one appreciates being treated like dirt when pressing a read. It’s only being done to piss people off so reads can be blown off, and it’s ridiculous.

@Mod

so Pine sees this.

dramonic has been toeing the line of getting warned, but has not crossed it, in my opinion. Everyone simmer down. Mafia is adversarial by nature, but does not need to get personal - this goes for both those giving offense, and those who take offense too easily.

Hmm!

@Mod: does this game follow the new Normal guidelines?

This game was (I think) the first Normal approved under the new guidelines.

Isn't 1 a prime number

I went to college

As a matter of policy, I do not comment on role claims or speculation.

However, as this is a question of mathematics, 1 is by definition not a prime number.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 1.7 <==

With 17 votes in play, it's 9 to lynch!

It's crunch time. Once-mighty blue has been reduced to the South American continent. On their turn, blue reinforces their position mightily, with their last remaining cards. Sizing up their targets carefully, the blue team strikes northward, taking Central America to weaken yellow. Green starts its turn disadvantaged. It holds Europe and Africa, but yellow holds Asia, Australia, and the bulk of North America. They wisely realize that their only chance is to starve out yellow, which is fairly overextended, and strike eastward from Ukraine and Egypt, chewing up portions of Asia and breaking through to strike at the heart of yellow's enterprise, pushing as far as Indonesia. Yellow starts awkwardly, with plenty of standing forces out of position and scant reinforcements. They choose to not contest North America, and concentrate on kicking green back out of Australia and Asia. The dice roll well for yellow, and they take the opportunity to return the favor and take Ukraine, denying green the bigger continent bonus.

[L-9]

Elbirn -

[L-9]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-9]

Ausuka -

[L-9]

brassherald -

[L-9]

the worst -

[L-4]

dramonic - Inferno390, Taly, the worst, HitAlt, HeWhoSwims

[L-3]

HitAlt - Andrius, Skygazer, dramonic, xyzzy, Flubbernugget, Raskolnikov

[L-9]

Skygazer -

[L-9]

Inferno390 -

[L-9]

Chickadee -

[L-6]

xyzzy - Elbirn, brassherald, Ausuka

[L-9]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-6]

Flubbernugget - MagnaofIllusion, Chickadee, Profii

[L-9]

Raskolnikov -

[L-9]

Taly -

[L-9]

Andrius -

[L-9]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

-

No one is in prod range.

Deadline will be extended by one day due to my partial absence over the last few days. My schedule has normalized, and you may now expect more regular moderation.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-10 15:40:00)

[Pine]

Dude, she's in another room. And asleep.

Also she's not yet two months old. Say what the fuck you want.

QUIETLY.

[Pine]

The VC in 1156 has been updated with flavor text.

[Pine]

Flubbernugget has been prodded. It is his first offense.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 1.8 <==

With 17 votes in play, it's 9 to lynch!

Blue's in a bind. They could try to stage a comeback and likely fail, or they could resign themselves to being kingmakers. Screw it. It's a game, and you only live once. They load up for bear in Brazil, and kick down green's front door, trying to retake their former base. Unfortunately, the dice just aren't having it. The offensive is nearly stalled entirely by green's last trooper in North Africa, who single-handedly takes down six blue soldiers. Blue wins a Pyrrhic victory, and takes the territory. Green spends its turn retaking Ukraine and North Africa, and settles in for the endgame.

[L-9]

Elbirn -

[L-9]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-9]

Ausuka -

[L-9]

brassherald -

[L-9]

the worst -

[L-7]

dramonic - Inferno390, HitAlt

[L-3]

HitAlt - Andrius, Skygazer, dramonic, xyzzy, Flubbernugget, HeWhoSwims

[L-9]

Skygazer -

[L-9]

Inferno390 -

[L-9]

Chickadee -

[L-7]

xyzzy - Elbirn, Ausuka

[L-9]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-3]

Flubbernugget - MagnaofIllusion, Chickadee, Profii, Taly, brassherald, Raskolnikov

[L-9]

Raskolnikov -

[L-9]

Taly -

[L-9]

Andrius -

[L-9]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- the worst

No one is in prod range.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-10 15:40:00)

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 1.9 (FINAL) <==

With 17 votes in play, it's 9 to lynch!

Blue's in a bind. They could try to stage a comeback and likely fail, or they could resign themselves to being kingmakers. Screw it. It's a game, and you only live once. They load up for bear in Brazil, and kick down green's front door, trying to retake their former base. Unfortunately, the dice just aren't having it. The offensive is nearly stalled entirely by green's last trooper in North Africa, who single-handedly takes down six blue soldiers. Blue wins a Pyrrhic victory, and takes the territory. Green spends its turn retaking Ukraine and North Africa, and settles in for the endgame.

Yellow capitalizes on the ineffectiveness of the other teams, and lays down a card set. As soon as the other players see the set drop, on top of yellow's continent bonuses and dominant position, means the game is effectively over. Sure enough, yellow drops a metric crapton of troops in the Middle East, and begins to stomp their way through Europe.

[L-9]

Elbirn -

[L-9]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-9]

Ausuka -

[L-9]

brassherald -

[L-9]

the worst -

[L-8]

dramonic - Inferno390

[L-4]

HitAlt - Andrius, dramonic, xyzzy, Flubbernugget, HeWhoSwims

[L-9]

Skygazer -

[L-9]

Inferno390 -

[L-9]

Chickadee -

[L-8]

xyzzy - Ausuka

[L-9]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-0]

Flubbernugget - MagnaofIllusion, Chickadee, Profii, brassherald, Raskolnikov, Elbirn, Skygazer, the worst, HitAlt

[L-9]

Raskolnikov -

[L-9]

Taly -

[L-9]

Andrius -

[L-9]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Taly

"Shouldn't have left Ukraine so weak,"

Pine says.

"You call Ukraine weak?"

Flubbernugget shoots back, apparently referencing Seinfeld. With nothing left to lose and the winner a foregone conclusion, Flubber completes the bit and flips the board, sending multicolored armies flying.

"Screw this game! Every damn time I think I'm winning, you pull some cards or whatever out of your ass and win!"

The tirade had quickly risen to a crescendo, as half-drunken near-wins are wont to do, but Flubbet ignores his teammates' frantic attempts to hush him. When he finally stops, everything is dead silent...except for a shrill and piercing baby's cry.

Uh oh. Now you done it.

[Pine]

The near-silence is deafening.

"One thing.

"I asked for ONE thing, you guys. Keep the noise down, Pinecone is sleeping.

"BUT NO. We can't have a nice evening with friends! Apparently, we've got to WAKE THE BABY!"

The crazy builds ominously in Pine's eyes as he rants, his fists clenching and unclenching, and suddenly he springs to his feet, grabbing a handful of fallen green, blue, and yellow army tokens. He kicks Flubbernugget down and shoves the fistful of pieces into his mouth, holding the nose to make sure they go down. When Flubber chokes and tries to inhale, a second handful follows, with a few cannons shoved up his nostrils to finish the job.

Long moments follow, with Flubbernugget's heels drumming on the floor, trying in vain to draw breath. Eventually, silence reigns again, broken only by a baby's cry.

Flubbernugget has died! He was a

Vanilla Townie

"The next son of a bitch who wakes the baby gets the same. Don't test me on this. Clean that up, while I go give her a bottle. Check out the games closet, figure out what we'll play next."

[/i]

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Vanilla Townie

. You have no special powers.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

It is now Night One. Please PM me your actions within 48 hours.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-12 08:05:00)

[Pine]

If you have suggestions for the D2 game, PM them to me. Tomorrow I'll post the approved suggestions and you can vote for your favorites.

Please note that I can't run a game I am unfamiliar with, so

7 Wonders

is out. I have broad familiarity with nearly all common board games and card games, most tabletop RPGs, and many niche varieties. Drinking games during a movie would also be possible.

[Pine]

If you have actions you haven't submitted, you have a few hours, until around noon EDT. I have a busy morning.

Resolving actions and generating daystart...

[Pine]

Raindrops on roses
And whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
These are a few of my favorite things

Cream-colored ponies and crisp apple strudels
Doorbells and sleigh bells
And schnitzel with noodles
Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings
These are a few of my favorite things

Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes
Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes
Silver-white winters that melt into springs
These are a few of my favorite things

When the dog bites
When the bee stings
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember my favorite things
And then I don't feel so bad

Okay, guys, she's back down. Let me get some coffee and we'll put this whole business behind...what the hell?!?

Laid out on the kitchen floor, a dozen stab wounds in his back, is the body of dramonic. After a futile attempt at resuscitation, a search reveals a small concealed pistol and some rope. Looks like he tangled with the wrong person.

dramonic has died! He was a

Mafia Prime-Number-Night Jailkeeper!

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Mafia Prime-Number-Night Jailkeeper

. On nights identified with a prime number (note: 1 is not a prime number), you may send me a name. That player will be roleblocked and protected from all kills that night. Please note that, per Normal guidelines, you may not execute your power on the same night you execute your factional kill.

You have access to a Private Thread with your faction, found here. Additional information on your factional composition may be found there. You may communicate with your team at any time.

Win Condition: You win if the your team eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Ummm, okay, he was definitely alive when I went upstairs. Errr, let's get this body cleaned up, and then we can get back to our evening. Inferno suggested we play

Munchkin,

so let's do that. Help yourselves to booze and whatnot, let's try to have some fun.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 3.0 <==

With 13 votes in play, it's 7 to lynch!

Game to be determined some time today. Suggestions welcome!

[L-8]

Elbirn -

[L-8]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst -

[L-8]

Gamma Emerald -

[L-8]

Skygazer -

[L-8]

Jingle -

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-8]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

Nosferatu -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Everyone!

Deadline in (expired on 2018-08-18 09:40:00)

[Pine]

Also mad respect to Pine for the flavor.
THOROUGHLY enjoying it so far!

Thanks! I try. I figure it's better to have a game with slightly-less-prompt VCs and daystarts, but which players will enjoy and be engaged by.

[Pine]

Oh!

With dramonic flipped, I feel comfortable now commenting on the D1 discussion of whether the role was Normal.

The new Normal rules opened up a lot of latitude in X-night modifiers. I decided to do something unusual, just for funsies. I cleared this directly with implosion. The relevant passage:

Any-nights-specific: you may only use your non-factional abilities on the specified nights. For instance, the following are all now whitelisted:

Night 1 and 3 cop
Night 2+ vigilante
Night 1-4 jailkeeper
Night 1 and even-night neapolitan

[Pine]

YAS

NICE SHOT VIG

In my experience most stabbings are serial killers?

Interpreting flavor text as game-related information is not advised; flavor text is entirely independent of the mechanical side of things. Further, having different death flavors for different factions is specifically banned for Normal games.

[Pine]

Bananas are good for you, even if I don't like them.

[Pine]

I'll take that with a grain of salt given Pine is modding this game.

Redirectors are explicitly non normal.

This game is explicitly Normal. It's your understanding of the Normal rules that's out of date, not mine.

VC incoming soon...ish.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.1 <==

With 15 votes in play, it's 8 to lynch!

Play progresses around the table, and Pine is pretty free with his help, asking for treasure in return. With so many players, he gets to help several times, and manages to collect the Boots of Butt-Kicking (+2), a Vorpal Blade (+3, or +13 if the monster starts with J), and a sweet Go Up A Level card (Boil an Anthill!). So when it comes around to his turn, he's in a pretty good position...but still not strong enough to solo...the Bigfoot!

Looking around the table, he offers the first pick of treasure for anyone to help, but no one's interested. He sighs, and offers the first and third pick. Still the only help offered is from one of the other players, an Elf with a Bow With Ribbons. He'd beat the monster, but...the opponent would get a level out of it. Oh well, can't be helped. The two players combine their strength, and take down the Bigfoot. Damn! There's another Go Up a Level in there, which the Elf takes in addition to the level he's entitled to. Pine does manage to snag the sweet Shield of Ubiquity, though, which suits his class. Even better, the third treasure is just a Ten-Foot Pole, which is useless to the Elf, as his hands are already occupied.

[L-3]

Elbirn - the worst, Inferno390, Skygazer, Raskolnikov, Taly

[L-7]

MagnaofIllusion - Ausuka

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-6]

the worst - Chickadee, HitAlt

[L-8]

HitAlt - xyzzy

[L-8]

Skygazer -

[L-8]

Inferno390 -

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-8]

xyzzy -

[L-7]

HeWhoSwims - brassherald

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

Andrius -

[L-8]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Andrius, Elbirn, MagnaofIllusion, Profii, HeWhoSwims

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

[Pine]

Ausuka has been prodded. It is her first offense.

[Pine]

Indeed. Working on a VC.

[Pine]

I'm only a cleric >: but I admire your radiant devotion

Back the fuck up off my Paladin, duck. I'm Andy's Cleric.

Accept no imitators.

[Pine]

goodness I had no idea what my innocent joke was messing with

A partnership for the ages.

D3 may have to be pickup D&D.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.2 <==

With 15 votes in play, it's 8 to lynch!

I am le tired and am going to bed. Flavor in ze morning.

[L-4]

Elbirn - Taly, xyzzy, brassherald, profii

[L-7]

MagnaofIllusion - Ausuka

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-6]

the worst - Chickadee, HitAlt

[L-8]

HitAlt -

[L-8]

Skygazer -

[L-8]

Inferno390 -

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-8]

xyzzy -

[L-8]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

Andrius -

[L-4]

Profii - Raskolnikov, the worst, Inferno390, Skygazer

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Andrius, Elbirn, MagnaofIllusion, HeWhoSwims

brassherald is on V/LA of indeterminate length
Elbirn has been prodded. It is his SECOND offense.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

[Pine]

I've still yet to read since day start and I dont think I'm ever going to have time for this. I'm sorry. I despise being a flake but the game will be healthier without me at this point

@Pine: please replace me

Searching for a replacement. If you have someone who would like to play in this game, PM me with their name and I'll go recruiting.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.3 <==

With 15 votes in play, it's 8 to lynch!

Flavor incoming...

[L-4]

((Elbirn)) - Taly, xyzzy, brassherald, Ausuka

[L-8]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-6]

the worst - Chickadee, HitAlt

[L-8]

HitAlt -

[L-6]

Skygazer - MagnaofIllusion, profii

[L-8]

Inferno390 -

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-8]

xyzzy -

[L-8]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

Andrius -

[L-4]

Profii - Raskolnikov, the worst, Inferno390, Skygazer

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Andrius, ((Elbirn)), HeWhoSwims

brassherald is on V/LA of indeterminate length
Elbirn is being replaced.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

[Pine]

Chick anti town is anti town tho... Although I wouldn't be able to give the kill motivation of a caught SK.

I don't see too much that profii did wrong honestly. Seems like an easy cw.

Also, claims, do I miss anything?
Chick - vengeful
Moi - odd night loyal FV
Ausuka - Loyal FV
Inferno - visitor?
Dram - prime night JK
Hit - Detective I think?
Brass - 1

shit

BP
Duck - vig

Finally I'm on holiday so I'll check in but ya know... I might not always respond fast.

Rude.

[Pine]

For those curious about the lack of flavor, I use images for inspiration, and it's bloody hard to find unadulterated Munchkin images. Because I love all you fine folks, I'm going to go home in an hour or so to feed the cats (I spend 23.5 hours/day at camp from Sunday afternoon-Friday evening) and I'm going to pick up my actual Munchkin set. From now on, the monsters and treasures will be (slightly) random! I'll even snap the pictures myself and upload them.

[Pine]

8. As per Normal rules, you may not use a role-based ability in the same night as a factional ability (including factional kill) unless your role PM specifically permits you.

Gamechanger.

Well, technically, that's the rule for all Normal games. Sooooo...

I'll take that with a grain of salt given Pine is modding this game.

Redirectors are explicitly non normal.

This game is explicitly Normal. It's your understanding of the Normal rules that's out of date, not mine.

[Pine]

The following modifiers are also immediately considered whitelisted:
Multitasking: you may use multiple abilities, including factional abilities, in the same night.

sorry if i'm contributing to normal game rules spam but I feel like this is an important thing to point out.

Again, part of the Normal rules.

I feel that might be a good thread for people to peruse, or at least implosion's ISO in it. It would save me some time reiterating stated rules.

To be clear: This game may be moderate role madness, it may be a semi-experimental, slightly madcap setup, but it is firmly within the Normal ruleset. I just don't subscribe to the notion that "Normal" must mean "boring".

[Pine]

Obviously, Almost50 replaces Elbirn, effective as of a few hours ago.

Thanks A50!

[Pine]

Obviously, Almost50 replaces Elbirn, effective as of a few hours ago.

Thanks A50!

Thanks, Capitan Obvious.

Inferno has been modkilled.

...Wait, I'm not allowed to use my powers for petty vengeance?

Why the hell does anyone mod then?!

[Pine]

Do it.
Strike him down.
Complete your training.

[Pine]

Hello all.

I apologize for my absence, I've had very limited access due to a cell phone problem. My SIM card needed to be replaced, and I haven't been able to access my data network or make a call or anything for several days. I have a laptop at camp, but very limited time to use it. All fixed now.

This is my top catch-up priority, and I am presently passing on swimming during an annual family camping trip to give you a VC and update. Flavor will have to wait until we get home tomorrow night, but will be worth the wait.

[Pine]

I think my motivation to catch up to this game is all but gone..
I feel like with the "power vested in me" I should be providing a whole lot more, but with my current IRL-situation, I don't think I'll be able to do so.
And it's under a week until I'll be going abroad for several days as well, so I guess I ought to just be replaced.
If I can't keep up with a game that is moving this slowly, I don't think I deserve to be a part of it..

@Pine - please replace me out, and send me an invitation to a spectator-thread if you have one.

Sorry to everyone, especially Pine (for the trouble), but this is my first replace-out ever and I wouldn't ask for it unless I really felt like it was necessary for the health of the game.

Thanks, and have a good game guys!

Noted. Farewell, HitAlt!

I have two potential replacements lined up, one will likely be in by the end of the day.

And btw..

DO NOT USE ORANGE.

How am I supposed to cook Duck a l'Orange then??

Use the imitation stuff. It's not as good, but you do what you can do.

Alternatively, use Clementines or peaches.

phew that was a close one. I'm actually a vegetarian for reals, offences against ducks are punishable by deattthhhh

Fite me.

Also hey.

Can we get some prods?

xyzzy hasn't posted in days, other than to correct a pronoun mistake (which I'm sorry about) but hasn't posted game content in longer than that.

If no one's gonna wear the cape then I guess I'll have to.

This is my next task after the VC. Everyone prodded gets a pass, not to be counted against them, due to my own absence, provided they post within 24 hours.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.4 <==

With 15 votes in play, it's 8 to lynch!

Flavor suspended for now.

[L-6]

Almost50 - xyzzy, Ausuka

[L-8]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst -

[L-8]

HitAlt - HeWhoSwims

[L-6]

Skygazer - MagnaofIllusion, profii

[L-7]

Inferno390 - brassherald

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-7]

xyzzy - Andrius

[L-8]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

Andrius -

[L-3]

Profii - Raskolnikov, the worst, Skygazer, Chickadee, Almost50

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Taly, Inferno390, ((HitAlt))

HitAlt is being replaced.

Deadline is extended three days to account for replacements

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-29 15:00:00)

[Pine]

Gamma Emerald replaces HitAlt

[Pine]

xyzzy has been prodded especially hard.

[Pine]

Posting on page 100 wheeeeeee

Working on a VC.

[Pine]

Wait, wait, wait. Shouldn't Xyzzy use the word "we" to refer to themselves?

oh btw this game has given me another chance to use this image I made a long time ago

"They" may also be used as a single-person non-gendered pronoun, and does not carry the baggage of calling a person "it."

I'm going to set aside some time tonight to update the flavor and give a VC. Not much has happened since the last one, but sufficient time has passed for it.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.5 <==

With 15 votes in play, it's 8 to lynch!

Flavor suspended for now.

[L-7]

Almost50 - xyzzy

[L-8]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst -

[L-8]

Gamma Emerald - HeWhoSwims

[L-6]

Skygazer - MagnaofIllusion, profii

[L-8]

Inferno390 -

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-5]

xyzzy - Andrius, Raskolnikov, Gamma Emerald

[L-5]

HeWhoSwims - Taly, brassherald, the worst

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

Andrius -

[L-5]

Profii - Skygazer, Chickadee, Almost50

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Inferno390, Ausuka

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-29 15:00:00)

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.6 <==

With 15 votes in play, it's 8 to lynch!

Some movement, woo!

Flavor suspended for now.

[L-8]

Almost50 -

[L-8]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst -

[L-8]

Gamma Emerald -

[L-8]

Skygazer -

[L-8]

Inferno390 -

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-1]

xyzzy - Andrius, Raskolnikov, Gamma Emerald, MagnaofIllusion, Almost50, Inferno390, profii

[L-5]

HeWhoSwims - Taly, brassherald, Ausuka

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

Andrius -

[L-4]

Profii - Chickadee, Skygazer, the worst, xyzzy

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- HeWhoSwims

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-29 15:00:00)

[Pine]

Nursing their beer (Not voting) - HeWhoSwims

oof
sorry flashwagon pals

VOTE: HWS

Moderator error, actually. HWS is on Gamma Emerald.

Never mind, see below.

[Pine]

Nursing their beer (Not voting) - HeWhoSwims

oof
sorry flashwagon pals

VOTE: HWS

Moderator error, actually. HWS is on Gamma Emerald.

Where's

HWS

vote on

GE

? I didn't see it

But there's no wagon there so

VOTE: HitAlt

L-2

When someone replaces out, I move them to the "Not Voting" category. Most likely, I moved HWS accidentally. Previous VCs have been corrected.

Oh hmm. Just kidding. That was from D1. The only mod error was in correcting one that didn't exist. HWS is indeed not voting. Carry on.

[Pine]

Resolving an issue. Stand by. This will not disrupt deadline.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.7 <==

With 15 votes in play, it's 8 to lynch!

Sitting down with my Munchkin deck to create flavor right now.

[L-8]

Almost50 -

[L-8]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst -

[L-8]

Gamma Emerald -

[L-6]

Skygazer - Taly, Ausuka

[L-8]

Inferno390 -

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-1]

xyzzy - Raskolnikov, Gamma Emerald, MagnaofIllusion, Almost50, profii, brassherald, the worst

[L-8]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

((Andrius)) -

[L-4]

Profii - Chickadee, Skygazer, xyzzy, Inferno390

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- HeWhoSwims, ((Andrius))

My moderation doctrine is that when someone requests replacement, I attempt to convince them to stay. Failing that, their vote is removed, and a replacement is found. With Andrius's vote removed, a lynch has not occurred. Please remember that no lynch is

ever

official until the mod says so.

Deadline is suspended until either a lynch occurs or a replacement for Andrius is found, at which point a 3-day deadline will be set.

[Pine]

Nosferatu replaces Andrius

[Pine]

My replacement-fu is strong. I'm 4/4 for finding popular subs without having to resort to the replacements thread.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.8 <==

With 15 votes in play, it's 8 to lynch!

Flavor coming. Sheesh, get off my tits.

[L-7]

Almost50 - Skygazer

[L-8]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst -

[L-8]

Gamma Emerald -

[L-4]

Skygazer - Taly, Gamma Emerald, Ausuka, MagnaofIllusion

[L-8]

Inferno390 -

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-3]

xyzzy - Raskolnikov, profii, brassherald, the worst, Almost50

[L-8]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

Nosferatu -

[L-6]

Profii - Chickadee, xyzzy, Inferno390

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- HeWhoSwims, Nosferatu

It hasn't been very long, but lots of rapid vote changes merits an update.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-08-01 18:30:00)

[Pine]

I was mostly looking at the dynamics of dram wagon. I doubt scum were very concerned about which of two townies they wanted to lynch.

Ftr Pine never behaved like this with any other replacement. Like the thread never got locked. Could that mean something? I guess maybe Pine thought Andrius made the game better or something?

The thread was locked because, like you, I thought there was a hammer. The problem was noticed when I produced a full VC and did my standard replacement doctrine. Had Andrius chosen to stay when I chatted with him on Discord, his vote would have remained in effect and ended the day. Hence locking the thread.

Further, I stated that the problem was discovered when I went to process the replacement request. If it had been pointed out to me, I would have said something to that effect while retaining anonymity. "No unanticipated moderator lies" is a central tenet of Normal game doctrine.

Searching for additional meaning in my actions is likely a fruitless effort. I tend not to obfuscate if I can help it.

[Pine]

Inferno390 is being replaced through no fault of his own. This may extend the deadline even further.

[Pine]

I'm a prostitute

PR***

...

...

Nope. Not touching that one. At least, not without some gloves and a lot of disinfectant.

[Pine]

Jingle replaces Inferno390!

[Pine]

..."Dram's role PM." Which, hilariously bad English in general

How dare you, sir! I challenge you to fisticuffs!

[Pine]

Jingle replaces Inferno390!

Erm, my bad. 3 days from the most recent replacement.

(expired on 2018-08-03 00:14:00)

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.9 <==

With 15 votes in play, it's 8 to lynch!

Rainy day time.

[L-7]

Almost50 - MagnaofIllusion

[L-8]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst -

[L-8]

Gamma Emerald -

[L-7]

Skygazer - profii

[L-8]

Jingle - Gamma Emerald

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-4]

xyzzy - Raskolnikov, the worst, Almost50, Taly

[L-7]

HeWhoSwims - Ausuka

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

Nosferatu -

[L-5]

Profii - xyzzy, Skygazer, brassherald

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- HeWhoSwims, Nosferatu, Jingle, Chickadee

Deadline in (expired on 2018-08-03 00:14:00)

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.10 <==

With 15 votes in play, it's 8 to lynch!

I'll catch up with flavor I swear.

[L-8]

Almost50 -

[L-8]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst -

[L-8]

Gamma Emerald -

[L-8]

Skygazer -

[L-8]

Jingle -

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-0]

xyzzy - Raskolnikov, the worst, Almost50, Taly, Gamma Emerald, MagnaofIllusion, Chickadee, profii

[L-7]

HeWhoSwims - Ausuka

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

Nosferatu -

[L-5]

Profii - xyzzy, Skygazer, brassherald

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- HeWhoSwims, Nosferatu, Jingle

[Pine]

RAWWWWRRRR!!!!! THIS FLAVOR DEPICTS THE BABY BEING WOKEN UP BY THAT LOUD BASTAGE XYZZY!!!

IT GOES ON TO ILLUSTRATE IN GREAT AND VIVID DETAIL THEIR BRUTAL AND BLOODY DEATH

XYZZY HAS DIED!

THEY WERE A

TOWN HIDER!

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town Hider

. Each night, you may choose someone to hide behind. While hiding, you are immune to all kills targeted at you. However, should the player you are hiding behind die, you will also die. Please note that this is not the more-common Weak Hider, and as such you do not automatically die if you hide behind non-Town.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-08-03 19:18:00)

[Pine]

A reminder:

Deadline in (expired on 2018-08-03 19:18:00)

Get your actions in!

[Pine]

Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are.
Up above the world so high,
Like a diamond in the sky.
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!

When the blazing sun is gone,
When he nothing shines upon,
Then you show your little light,
Twinkle, twinkle, all the night.
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!

Then the traveler in the dark,
Thanks you for your tiny spark;
He could not see which way to go,
If you did not twinkle so.
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!

In the dark blue sky you keep,
While you thro' my window peep,
And you never shut your eye,
Till the sun is in the sky,
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!

[/color]

Ooooookay, that should do it. She's sleeping again. I fed her a bottle and sang a song to her and she's down. She's got the cutest little yawns! Let's get back to the game.

The group quietly reassembles around the table, not quite sure what to make of this guy who alternates between tender and brutal. Well...all but Almost50.

Hey, Almost50, come join us! ...A50?

On closer inspection, Almost50 isn't just napping, but dead! His sallow skin and rigid limbs, not to mention the foam at his mouth and blood leaking from his nose, suggest he has been poisoned in the night! With nothing for it but to move on, you move the cadaver outside with the rest and return to the table without him.

Almost50 has died! He was a

Vanilla Townie!

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Vanilla Townie

. You have no special powers.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

==> Vote Count 3.0 <==

With 13 votes in play, it's 7 to lynch!

Flavor pending.

[L-7]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-7]

Ausuka -

[L-7]

brassherald -

[L-7]

the worst -

[L-7]

Gamma Emerald -

[L-7]

Skygazer -

[L-7]

Jingle -

[L-7]

Chickadee -

[L-7]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-7]

Raskolnikov -

[L-7]

Taly -

[L-7]

Nosferatu -

[L-7]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Everyone!

Deadline is in (expired on 2018-08-18 09:30:00)

[Pine]

JR is from Dallas, it's a pop culture reference.

1980 is a long callback to refer to it as "pop culture". I'm no spring chicken by MS standards and I barely got it.

That said, I lol'd.

[Pine]

Would Monty Burns have also been a long callback? I almost went with Monty Burns but I watched something recently about the 80s.

Getting warmer

'95 is still 23 years ago though.

...I feel old now, referring to my youth as nearly a quarter century distant.

[Pine]

The same thing Queen was doing on classic rock stations when I was a kid.

I'd love to have a conversation about this somewhere else, but let's table the off-topic discussions.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 3.1 <==

With 13 votes in play, it's 7 to lynch!

Flavor pending.

[L-4]

MagnaofIllusion - Ausuka, Skygazer, profii

[L-6]

Ausuka - MagnaofIllusion

[L-7]

brassherald -

[L-7]

the worst -

[L-7]

Gamma Emerald -

[L-6]

Skygazer - Raskolnikov

[L-7]

Inferno390 -

[L-7]

Chickadee -

[L-7]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-7]

Raskolnikov -

[L-7]

Taly -

[L-7]

Nosferatu -

[L-7]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- brassherald, the worst, Gamma Emerald, Jingle, Chickadee, HeWhoSwims, Taly, Nosferatu

No prods as yet, but half the playerlist are well over half way to a prod.

(expired on 2018-08-18 09:30:00)

[Pine]

Is anyone familiar enough with action resolution?

Lynch *someone*
Let MoI fruit
Shoot MoI

?

Probably far too much trust of MoI and TW in that tbh

I use Natural Action Resolution method when it becomes necessary to determine order in the case of conflict. Any notes in role PMs specifically dictating order of course trump that model.

[Pine]

Prods have gone out for MagnaofIllusion, Taly, Nosferatu, and Pine. These will not be counted against them in the long run due to my own spotty presence, and I will consider a deadline extension.

I apologize for my absence. This past week was perhaps the roughest of the year, and required an immense amount of attention at work. Things are settling back down, but Pinecone (who turned three months old on Thursday) is coming down with something that I hope is just a passing cold. I’m out of town for the weekend, but should be able to post a VC in a couple of hours.

[Pine]

Pine, did you really prod yourself?

I'm not trying to be an ass, but if so, I want to laugh about it.

I deserved a prod, so...yeah.

I really need to not mod in the summer. Maaaaaybe if I’m playing in no games and have flavor fully planned ahead, but this was not a great idea. Oh well, camp is winding down. One more week of overnight, then one week of just daycamp, where I’ll have evenings free.

[Pine]

I ran a 19-player game the other day for a few groups of boys. Mostly 9-12. 4 west side Mafia vs 4 east side Mafia vs 10 VTs and a Vig. I called it “Gang Warfare”. Town won with half their numbers intact. It was a bloodbath.

[Pine]

Pine in the event taly or moi did flake how long do you think it would take for them to get replaced

I’m looking for replacements now. If they’re not needed, they’re not needed.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 3.3 <==

With 13 votes in play, it's 7 to lynch!

Flavor pending.

[L-6]

((MagnaofIllusion)) - profii

[L-7]

Ausuka -

[L-7]

brassherald -

[L-7]

the worst -

[L-7]

Gamma Emerald -

[L-7]

Skygazer -

[L-7]

Jingle -

[L-7]

Chickadee -

[L-6]

HeWhoSwims - Jingle

[L-7]

Raskolnikov -

[L-7]

((Taly)) -

[L-7]

Nosferatu -

[L-0]

Profii - the worst, brassherald, Skygazer, Gamma Emerald, Raskolnikov, Ausuka, Chickadee

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- HeWhoSwims, ((Taly)), Nosferatu, ((MagnaofIllusion))

An additional vote count, for tracking purposes, has been edited into post 3325.

MagnaofIllusion and Taly have not picked up their prods. They will be replaced.

[Pine]

Profii has been lynched. He was a

Mafia Goon!

Deadline is suspended until replacements are found. If MoI or Taly return before replacements are found they may have their spots back.

[Pine]

Irrelephant11 replaces Taly.

Deadline 48 hours from now. Will edit in a timer when I get home.

[Pine]

Kokichi Oma replaces MagnaofIllusion!

Onward!

(expired on 2018-08-14 20:00:00)

[Pine]

Pinecone has a mild case of croup. Spent much of yesterday in the ER. Talked to five nurses and four doctors. They were hesitant to make a diagnosis because she doesn't have the classic seal-bark cough, but rather a strong wet cough that occasionally sounds a bit bark-y.

She'll be fine. Croup is a known quantity that we can handle. Treat symptoms, keep airway clear, try steam and cold air, should run its course in 2-7 days.

Between that and replacements, have an extra day of night.

(expired on 2018-08-15 20:00:00)

[Pine]

Reminder: a bit under twelve hours to get actions in

[Pine]

Kokichi Oma has died! He was a

Mafia Disloyal Fruit Vendor!

Gamma Emerald has died! He was a

Town Detective!

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 4.0 <==

With 10 votes in play, it's 6 to lynch!

Flavor pending.

[L-6]

Ausuka -

[L-6]

brassherald -

[L-6]

the worst -

[L-6]

Skygazer -

[L-6]

Jingle -

[L-6]

Chickadee -

[L-6]

HeWhoSwims -

[L-6]

Raskolnikov -

[L-6]

Irrelephant11 -

[L-6]

Nosferatu -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Everyone!

Deadline is in (expired on 2018-08-29 23:00:00)

[Pine]

Okay, as this is becoming a serious issue for speculation, I will comment on/confirm one detail, which ought to lay to rest this debate. As I cannot discuss unflipped roles, this will be in regards to MoI's/Kokichi's Disloyal Mafia Fruit Vendor, and any conclusions you draw regarding similar roles will be your own.

For the role in question, a list of possible fruits was drawn up, and every time MoI/Kokichi vended, a die was rolled against that table. The target then received the indicated fruit.

I remind you that non-random details such as fruit-a-day or kill flavors associated with a specific killer/faction are established as non-Normal.

Wait do we really think this is a reason to 1v1?

@skygazer is there anything to your PM besides the word clementine? Don't quote obvs just y/n, elaborate maybe

I regard this as dangerously close to quoting your role PM/moderator communication, and certainly risks violating the spirit of rules against such. You are strongly encouraged to desist with this line of questioning, and Skygazer is instructed not to respond to it.

I don't think any violation was intended, but with a warning now issued, further skirting of the mod communication rules will not be tolerated lightly.

[Pine]

if it were mb surely we would've found out by nk count

also: has pine modded an unannounced mb before?

Yes, back in '12, but tigers ate it.

I personally feel that announcing whether something is multiball or not violates the spirit of the Normal ruleset. I don't participate in the relatively-recent trend of announcing.

Counting votes...

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 4.1 <==

With 10 votes in play, it's 6 to lynch!

Flavor pending.

[L-6]

Ausuka -

[L-6]

brassherald -

[L-6]

the worst -

[L-5]

Skygazer - Nosferatu

[L-6]

Jingle -

[L-6]

Chickadee -

[L-3]

HeWhoSwims - Skygazer, Irrelephant11, Chickadee

[L-6]

Raskolnikov -

[L-6]

Irrelephant11 -

[L-3]

Nosferatu - the worst, Ausuka, brassherald

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- HeWhoSwims, Raskolnikov, Jingle

Deadline is in (expired on 2018-08-29 23:00:00)

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 4.2 <==

With 10 votes in play, it's 6 to lynch!

Flavor pending.

[L-6]

Ausuka -

[L-6]

brassherald -

[L-6]

the worst -

[L-5]

Skygazer - Nosferatu

[L-6]

Jingle -

[L-6]

Chickadee -

[L-0]

HeWhoSwims - Skygazer, Irrelephant11, Chickadee, Ausuka, Raskolnikov, Jingle

[L-6]

Raskolnikov -

[L-6]

Irrelephant11 -

[L-4]

Nosferatu - the worst, brassherald

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- HeWhoSwims[/b][/size][/color]

[Pine]

HeWhoSwims has been lynched. He was an

Informed Townie.

Deadline is in (expired on 2018-08-20 13:00:00)

[Pine]

Skygazer has died! She was a

Mafia Ninja!

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 5.0 <==

With 8 votes in play, it's 5 to lynch!

Flavor pending.

[L-5]

Ausuka -

[L-5]

brassherald -

[L-5]

the worst -

[L-5]

Jingle -

[L-5]

Chickadee -

[L-5]

Raskolnikov -

[L-5]

Irrelephant11 -

[L-5]

Nosferatu -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Everyone!

Deadline in (expired on 2018-09-03 19:15:00)

[Pine]

It outright can’t be 4v4v9, btw. We’d be endgames rn.

I thought of this, but read the role pms on page 1

That... Doesn't change anything.

There are 8 people alive. If there are 4 scum alive of the same faction, they cannot be lynched at this point and we've already lost. 10v4v3 is maybe possible, but not likely.

Loud modifier is almost certainly the doc who doesn't need to out at the moment.

To satisfy paranoia:

@mod: if there were two mafia teams would they be differentiated in their flips? Either through color or Mafia A/Mafia B or something?

While I do not answer hypotheticals, I do think you'll find the answer in the Normal rules.

[Pine]

@mod
hypothetically speaking how would you react if I said you're my favourite tree themed user?

I would scoff at how obvious your flattery has become. Nevertheless, the Tree Sovereignty accepts your approbation.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 5.1 <==

With 8 votes in play, it's 5 to lynch!

[L-5]

Ausuka -

[L-5]

brassherald -

[L-0]

the worst - Jingle, Ausuka, Nosferatu, Irrelephant11, brassherald

[L-5]

Jingle -

[L-5]

Chickadee -

[L-5]

Raskolnikov -

[L-5]

Irrelephant11 -

[L-5]

Nosferatu - the worst

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Chickadee, Raskolnikov

[Pine]

the worst has been lynched! He was a

1-shot Bulletproof Multitasking 2-shot Tracker Serial Killer!

The Town has won!

Survivors:

Ausuka -

Town Loyal Fruit Vendor

brassherald -

2-shot Activated Bulletproof Townie

Jingle -

Town Visitor

Chickadee -

Vengeful Townie

Raskolnikov -

Town Loud Doctor

Irrelephant11 -

Vanilla Townie

Nosferatu -

Town Psychologist

[Pine]

Moderator comments, rolecards, and more are to come.

Mafia and Serial Killer thread will be released on unanimous consent of the relevant parties.

The Mod/Dead Thread is now open.

[Pine]

gg though! I was going to lolclaim fruit today and would've been sort of locktown for a bit RIP

Frankly, I think that would have been a game-winning move for you, and worth a Scummy nomination. Particularly if you followed it up with killing tw the following night. Pity tw thought you were Town, and therefore safe to kill.

I said so in the dead thread, I'll say so here: I think all three factions played a good game, and some very solid performances got defeated by others' competence.

Shoutout to the worst, who is frankly the Town MVP. He joked about conceding, and I was seriously considering calling it a joint win if he had.

[Pine]

I'm actually seriously considering nominating the worst for a "Best Third Party" Scummy despite the wide margin of the Town win here. In this game, I think it's a solid case of the Serial Killer being too accurate for their own good.

Anyone else have thoughts on that?

[Pine]

Setup:

17 Players - 12 Town, 4 Mafia, 1 Serial Killer


Vengeful Townie
Detective
Psychologist
Hider
Loyal Fruit Vendor
Loud Doctor
Visitor
Informed Townie: You know that all roles, aside from any VTs, have some element to them which was recently white-listed.
2-shot Activated Bulletproof Townie
3 VTs


Mafia Prime-Number-Night Jailkeeper (1 is not a prime number. 2, 3, 5, 7 are)
Mafia Disloyal Fruit Vendor
Mafia Ninja
Mafia Goon

1-shot BP Multitasking 2-shot Tracker Serial Killer

Spoiler: Role PMs

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Vengeful Townie

. You have no special powers until and unless you are lynched. At that time, the game will enter twilight, and you will have 24 hours to submit a name to me by PM. That player will be killed.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town Detective

. Each night, you may submit a name to me for investigation. If they have attempted to kill someone this game, successful or not, you will be informed of this fact. Resolves after kills.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town Psychologist

. Each night, you may submit a name to me for investigation to determine if they are capable of killing anyone. If they have already killed someone or attempted to kill someone, this will return a negative result. Resolves after kills.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town Hider

. Each night, you may choose someone to hide behind. While hiding, you are immune to all kills targeted at you. However, should the player you are hiding behind die, you will also die. Please note that this is not the more-common Weak Hider, and as such you do not automatically die if you hide behind non-Town.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town Loyal Fruit Vendor

. Each night, you may send me a name. If that player belongs to your faction, they will receive a random piece of fruit. This fruit serves no discernible function.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town Loud Doctor

. Each night, you may send me a name. That player will be protected from all night kills that night. If your action resolves, your target will be informed that you visited them, but not what you did.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town Visitor

. Each night, you may send me a name. You will visit that player, but your visitation will have no discernible effect.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are an

Informed Townie

. You have no special powers, but know the following:

All roles in this game, aside from Vanilla Townies and/or Mafia Goons, have some element to them which was recently whitelisted for Normal games.

The moderator will not publicly confirm this information. What you do with it is up to you.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town 2-shot Activated Bulletproof Townie

. Each night, you may choose to activate your power. If you do, you will be protected from all night kills targeting you that night. You may use this power twice only.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Mafia Prime-Number-Night Jailkeeper

. On nights identified with a prime number (note: 1 is not a prime number), you may send me a name. That player will be roleblocked and protected from all kills that night. Please note that, per Normal guidelines, you may not execute your power on the same night you execute your factional kill.

You have access to a Private Thread with your faction, found here. Additional information on your factional composition may be found there. You may communicate with your team at any time.

Win Condition: You win if the your team eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Mafia Disloyal Fruit Vendor

. Each night, you may send me a name. If that player does not belong to your faction, they will receive a random piece of fruit. This fruit serves no discernible function. Please note that, per Normal guidelines, you may not execute your power on the same night you execute your factional kill.

You have access to a Private Thread with your faction, found here. Additional information on your factional composition may be found there. You may communicate with your team at any time.

Win Condition: You win if the your team eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Mafia Ninja

. You may execute your team's factional kill, and may not be observed while doing so.

You have access to a Private Thread with your faction, found here. Additional information on your factional composition may be found there. You may communicate with your team at any time.

Win Condition: You win if the your team eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

Mafia Goon

. You have no special powers, though you may execute your team's factional kill.

You have access to a Private Thread with your faction, found here. Additional information on your factional composition may be found there. You may communicate with your team at any time.

Win Condition: You win if the your team eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

Welcome to New York 214: Project Pinecone! Here's your role information:

You are a

1-shot Bulletproof Multitasking 2-shot Tracker Serial Killer

. ach night, you may execute a factional kill. Twice per game, you may also send me a name. You will follow that player and learn whom they target, if anyone. As you have the Multitasking modifier, you may still make your factional kill while taking this action. Finally, the first night kill which would resolve upon you this game will be nullified. You will not be informed should this occur.

You have access to a Private Thread for your notes, found here. You may use it at any time.

Win Condition: You win if the your team eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm by PM. Day One will be started after 15/17 players have confirmed.

[Pine]

I might be wrong but on n3 I thought that the scumpool was still too wide for scum to fakeclaim fruit. By n4 we had won regardless- Sky couldn't have won there I think?? Town PRs + SK were probably too strong for such a comeback.

the worst played excellently yeah.

In the dead thread I roleplayed a scenario where Skygazer could have darkhorsed a win, even that late. If she'd correctly guessed a fruitvend, her odds would have gone waaaay up.

[Pine]

Serial Killer journal

[Pine]

This game would have gone very differently had Mafia not lost their most toothy PR before using it

[Pine]

Like I said, everyone did a great job. The scumteam got crushed hard, but they went down swinging, and spun each new shitstorm in the best light possible.

[Pine]

I know I fell down a bit on the flavor this game, and for that you have my apologies.

However, if you enjoy my design aesthetics and the early flavor of this game, Aristophanes and I are in the process of designing a new theme game.

Working title: Plead Your Case
Size: 14 players*
Bastard: No, some disclosed elements
Mechanics: In the confirmation stage, everyone will submit a ranked-order list of preference to become the game’s Magistrate. The Magistrate will become a Town-aligned Treestump, with an important caveat: theirs is the only vote which matters. What the Magistrate says, goes. They have the sole power to dictate lynches, and thus all cases and arguments will be addressed to the Magistrate. They will also have power over procedure, able to set new rules and restrictions (within reason). The remainder of the players will then be issued standard roles in a typical 10:3 spread.

[Pine]

"Scum love an SK"

...SK kills 3/4 scumteam.

[Pine]

Not enough players approved it to be released.

[Pine]

Was it disapproved, or failure to approve? If it were me modding, silence is approval.

The latter. I'll post in the thread and give them two days to object.