Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[Aristophanes]

Oh god it has begun!

V/la as noted until next weekend (read: not in 2 days, obv)

Maybe don't lynch me in that time. Maybe do. Up to you XD

[Aristophanes]

Oh god it has begun!

V/la as noted until next weekend (read: not in 2 days, obv)

Maybe don't lynch me in that time. Maybe do. Up to you XD

Hi town.

You never cease to impress me! <3

[Aristophanes]

Hey Tris!

You're about a year into MS, you've played lots, right?

[Aristophanes]

<3 you RC!

I'll gladly jump back into retirement, just fyi

[Aristophanes]

Garcia = Answer a question not directed at you.

I just call that bad manners. Good to know tho!

[Aristophanes]

Hey Tris!

You're about a year into MS, you've played lots, right?

I actually originally started playing in 2013, but there were only a couple games from then. I got back into mafia with this new account a year ago and have some games over the year.

You know what, I read that when yku came back I believe, but had forgotten.

Are you typically an emotional player?

[Aristophanes]

Man I miss this stupid game <3

[Aristophanes]

i wouldn't say so. sometimes i guess.

Cool cool cool

I ask because while your initial post about the party hat was innocuous, your responses to Math calling it out were a little less so. I could see it from a newbie or someone like Nancy Drew (sorry my compadre but it's apt and I know you understand) who is more likely to take things more emotionally or personally on a quick read. You seemed a lot more ruffled by Math than you needed to be.

VOTE: Tris

I think this a decent start to the game and have a few decent reads already, which is nice

[Aristophanes]

Man I miss this stupid game <3

Honestly, this will never get old XD

[Aristophanes]

rc are you going to be communicating through those for long, because it's going to get annoying really quickly

Oh, I suppose we differ in our enjoyment of RC and his lovable antics here...

[Aristophanes]

Tris, Plum, Skitter scumteam. Calling it now.

[Aristophanes]

If you have a point please shrink your pictures or ideally use words.

[Aristophanes]

Tris, Plum, Skitter scumteam. Calling it now.

I think two of the three but not all three. They all give me scum pings but I think it’s too early for all the pings to be right.

I can settle for 2/3 in the forst 100 posts

[Aristophanes]

Oh, I'm not ruffled.

I don't think I take things personally. But, I like to drill into people who attacking me for reasons i don't get. i've found that sometimes comes from scum.

Maybe I stated that badly. You don't seem ruffled. Your responses just sounded a but defensive and the followups a tad contrived.

Also literally anything can come from scum sometimes. Town tells can come from scum sometimes! This is so empty.

[Aristophanes]

I mean, I think this is town!RC too tho

[Aristophanes]

ok, why do you like my vote on you?

I like it in context of your reads on me being dynamic and you giving them voice casually as conversation flows. Doesn't seem forced.

yeah, i'd say that's a sign of town!skitter.

Oh, I'm not ruffled.

I don't think I take things personally. But, I like to drill into people who attacking me for reasons i don't get. i've found that sometimes comes from scum.

Maybe I stated that badly. You don't seem ruffled. Your responses just sounded a but defensive and the followups a tad contrived.

Also literally anything can come from scum sometimes. Town tells can come from scum sometimes! This is so empty.

I mean to say, often comes from scum. Not to say that scumreads on me tend to come from scum, but that certain kinds of scumreads. For example your scumread on me seems more like town.

Intriguing.

I am an easy pocket so I'm going to stay strong in this, but I like where you're coming from as this develops.

[Aristophanes]

They literally just quoted your post instead of thinking and replying.

Wtf.

Negative scum equity tbh

[Aristophanes]

this game needs more memes

this was supposed to be the meme game

Don't tempt me!

[Aristophanes]

i think that mathblade is scum with implosion

i am a gunsmith and can confirm that implosion has not one but two guns

[Aristophanes]

Wait is that how strongmans work??

[Aristophanes]

The post, or the fact that they quoted? I don't think that quote is negative scum equity, I'm undecided about the actual process of quoting instead of thinking and replying.

Don't tempt me!

I think it is negative mutual scum equity. As in y'all ain't on no scumteams together!


And I'LL NEVER JOIN YOU!!!
(I'll totally join you tho)

[Aristophanes]

Meh, I like Math for town atm. Good strong read tbh.

Sorry RC.

Also signing off for the night now so eho knows when I'll be back. Meme away in my absence plz <3

[Aristophanes]

ari can you throw me a super quick tiered readlist when you next check in please

Heya!
This is all based on my outgoing thoughts when I last checked in but...

Math
TW
RC

e'rbody not listed because ???

Teacher

Skitter
Tris
Plum

[Aristophanes]

Is there still a wagon on me? I saw some votes growing as I checked out which is hilarious timing and like, not effective at all? I'll read through but like, good work wasting them votes I guess

[Aristophanes]

I am considering Ari is a tmi scumread from RC and Bella is a TMI townread. It’s a minor thing but if voting Ari is so useless he wouldn’t be scared/not do it but he is. And he doesn’t vote. He just posts.

i feel like rc is the last person on the planet to be scared to bus ari
i don't really get this read, he's been amping up to vote there for a while now

Lol RC could bus me anytime if we were scummates and probably would if it made us look good. Scared to bus me? The most bussable player??? As if

[Aristophanes]

i'm gonna be really salty if ari is town who decided to randomly throw out a hard townread that first impulse was a tmi townread on scum

How would town have a tmi townread on scum? That doesn’t make sense? Am I missing something?

<<Insert The Point

<<Insert Airplane

<<Insert my head

the idea is that they by throwing a really bad townread on you might have derailed my attempt to lynch scum you if they're town and you're scum
right now i kinda think you might both be scum and that was a defense of a scumbuddy? depends on my read on you though.

Well you have a theory. I know it’s incorrect but NSG and Gif have more experience with scum me than you iirc. What does scum me do when pressured? Town me? Third party me?

I am okay with an Ari lynch since Titus scumreads them. I just don’t see it and therefore can’t in good conscience vote Ari.

Lol @RC, that's really tinfoil my friend.

And Math, can you tell Titus I love her enthusiasm here but she's not likely to be the greatest at reading whatever my new meta has become?

Like for instance, wtf is this post and why am I addressing an onlooker to the game instead of just atting them? I have no clue! Haha
Anyway, this post is gonna get me lynched somehow and I know that but w/e. Let's do this!

[Aristophanes]

I am considering Ari is a tmi scumread from RC and Bella is a TMI townread. It’s a minor thing but if voting Ari is so useless he wouldn’t be scared/not do it but he is. And he doesn’t vote. He just posts.

i feel like rc is the last person on the planet to be scared to bus ari
i don't really get this read, he's been amping up to vote there for a while now

Lol RC could bus me anytime if we were scummates and probably would if it made us look good. Scared to bus me? The most bussable player??? As if

yes, that's kinda my point
this feels like you're lampshading it tho and it feels kinda gross actually

I literally haven't read anything tho so *shrugs*

Also no clue what lampshading is so...

Also, I should really stop ending sentences with so.

[Aristophanes]

flopz entrance/catch-up is p bad imo; it actually reads kinda partner-y with ari that he scumreads ari for 'the usual reasons' but neither added anything to the discussion nor did anything about it (i.e. by voting him when he unvoted ari)

Sorry to burst your bubble on this one....but who TF is flopz!?

[Aristophanes]

flopz entrance/catch-up is p bad imo; it actually reads kinda partner-y with ari that he scumreads ari for 'the usual reasons' but neither added anything to the discussion nor did anything about it (i.e. by voting him when he unvoted ari)

Sorry to burst your bubble on this one....but who TF is flopz!?

This makes it look even worse. Man.

Yup, I'm scum with the guy I don't know is in the game and isn't on the playerlist. That's totes believable! XD

But also my tone is whack innit so Imma be scumread for this and for my observation of it being off from normal (if i even have a normal right now).

Man, somehow I'm making me scumread myself as I type! This is bad...

[Aristophanes]

like i'm amazed that no one is scumreading me for just saying la dee da i don't know what mathblade's alignment is and i'm not trying to figure it out but that's kinda where i'm at, yeah.

RC You are being so pleasant and lovely this game why would we scumread that

[Aristophanes]

Yup, I'm scum with the guy I don't know is in the game and isn't on the playerlist. That's totes believable! XD

this kind of feels like you're either trying to spew him scum or not scum >_>

I know! And yet I am not intending either! XD

[Aristophanes]

Plum/Ari/Math makes more sense going off of that line.

that would require them to have both decided to bus ari.

For the record, bussing me when I'm AFK is a suboptimal play because I cannot scum theatre if I'm not here. So like, this is a bit flawed.

Overall I like RC for town still by page 15 tho which is suuuper nice!

[Aristophanes]

sigh i'm not sure ari is scum anymore and pretty much all the time from then to now was wasted time because I was predicating all my reads off of ari scum. welp. back to the drawing board.

I'm sorry man, should have checked in sooner

[Aristophanes]

I just did a Bella Iso and I nulltown it so I lookforward to both sides here.

[Aristophanes]

The one thing that makes me raise an eyebrow at Bella is this here:

(I'd vote for plum but my teammates like that they chatted to their team about ari. I'm thinking about it.)

It's a little LAMIST but very subtly and a subtly yet explicit LAMIST is kinda the on point play I'd expect from Bella scum.

But I'm sure I'm reading too much into it.

[Aristophanes]

I'm done for the night, so not to self that I'm at pg 18.

GL HF cu next time.

[Aristophanes]

can you give some sort of meaningful catchup now

ari are you going to share any of your thoughts or ... ?

Was this not enough for you guys? lol

[Aristophanes]

Hey, my team atted me because apparently I'm, like, gonna be lynched or whatever.

At least gimme until Sunday if possible. I could make excuses but basically I'm working too much to even be here. I have the weekend off so I can finally do something then, but Sat is already basically full.
That's all I ask. If I don't perform by Sunday then w/e lynch away I guess.

I'll see what I can do tn but I have to get to bed soon for yet another 12 hour work day tomorrow.

[Aristophanes]

i'm fine waiting til sunday

Thanks my friend

I'm working too much

this is in character....take care of yourself ari

Haha yeah, haven't burnt out yet! Don't know what day of the week it is most of the time anymore but ya know, that goes with the territory sometimes

I appreciate you greatly <3

[Aristophanes]

Also I finally got a chance to look into this Flopz character and, uh, WTF is their vote on me and, as a follow up, WTF was their posting around that time!?
It is the fakest shit and, like, the most contrived posting I've read in a long time!

"I'm fixing my vote posthaste because apparently you thought not voting was scummy"
"I scumread Ari for the usual reasons"

Seriously, I don't even know you. What are "the usual reasons"???
Why did you vote me when pressure was placed on you and not before? You said you were gonna come back with a vote and good reasons and content and never did.Your callout to RC was bs. What are you even doing??

VOTE: Flopz

srsly.

[Aristophanes]

right back at you. ♥ i don't know how you don't burn out with your schedule.

In all honesty I've gotten used to it. It's not a good thing, but I've acclimatized to it.

Also coffee. Literal litres of coffee daily!
Today was ~9 cups and I still was a little tires for most of it.

...
XD

[Aristophanes]

wow

duckling is fine giving ari more time

then ari comes in and posts some super fake stuff

who knew

"super fake"

Wtf.

[Aristophanes]

Sorry if I'm not living up to your standards? I think I've been doing pretty well with the time I've had and I like my reads, as does my team from what I can tell. We are working to get shit done and efficiently because of said limited time, and while we think you're town, we also have to say that scumreading me here is kinda really dumb and unreasonable. But w/e.

Also Nancy says she might irl slap y'all if you lynch me so there's that. XD

[Aristophanes]

like I can't lynch Duckling who is mod confirmed scum to me and he tried to PL me when I went after you and you come in with the following

Also I finally got a chance to look into this Flopz character and, uh, WTF is their vote on me and, as a follow up, WTF was their posting around that time!?
It is the fakest shit and, like, the most contrived posting I've read in a long time!

It's... really hard to imagine this being a townpost?

I mean, for one thing modconfirmed scum on D1 is something I super expect you to say but also means literally almost nothing in the grand scheme of things because like, no.

For two, I mean, is that not reasonable? It's how I felt about their posting and I literally had not encountered a single post from this person until I searched for them. And their posting is contrived. And their ovte on me is BS. SO Iunno what you expect from me tbh but this is what you're getting so, uh, yeah. Deal with it.

[Aristophanes]

RC is pretending we're scumbuddies.
i'm not engaging further than this.

How even

[Aristophanes]

So, have you read the game or not

No. I read what I responded to in my last check in, went ti read from page 50 on as a catchup and saw Flopz on 51, deciding then to Iso thwm for their vote on me.
Read the relevant posts, responded, and now am responding actively to you instead of reading the ~50 pages of this thread I am behind on.

[Aristophanes]

Also, yourself, Math, and skitter have more than 2/3 of this thread within your posts and I don't want to read your back and forth bickering. The rest of the players don't seem to interact with each other from the snippets I've read, like any of them, because you three dominate.

So what even is the point other than generating reads on you three?

[Aristophanes]

You're literally just saying stuff fed to you by Duckling at this point.

Except I haven't read his posts!?!?

[Aristophanes]

You don't know how much I appreciate that mentality Math. Thanks for giving the therad space to breathe!

I don't see how you could think the three of us are a scumteam or how this would then be scum theatre? But if you say so

[Aristophanes]

Okay, RC, I'm sorry about that. I just see the thread dominated my you, not the breaks.

Can you tell me why you scumread me? What in my posting has given you this read?
I can address it if I know what it is, but otherwise I'm likely to continue down my D1 mislynch path and I know you're seen this too often to count at this point.

[Aristophanes]

I have an hour before bed so I can engage some if you would like.

Otherwise I'm happy to return Sunday. I probably will not have a chance between now and then to read at all though so up to you.

[Aristophanes]

I mean, replace scumteam with team-mafia-team and you have my motivation in being here pretty set.

I appreciate that a lot though as it is somewhat of a stress for me atm.
I'll be back, and I thank you again my friend <3

[Aristophanes]

I've been poked because RC is pushing a wagon despite saying I had until Sunday and apparently isn't holding true to that! Wtf man!

I literally, by the end if tomorrow, will have worked 99 hours in the past 9 days. 99 hours! And a break ain't one! My lack of posting isn't AI and my lack of reading isn't either! My tone is off because I can only respond to limited info and it's not much to go on, comvined with being overworked. Irl excuses suck ass, I know, but I'd never use one if it weren't true. If I can't have until Sunday then tell me and I'll read up instead of sleeping I guess. Fuck tho.

And Nancy says she's considering renouncing her Paragon nom if yku keep it up because this is such a rdiculously wrong read

L-1 on me for my limited time and posting is legit dumb and you're not going to get anything from it.

[Aristophanes]

Aaaaand RC unvotes.

What timing.

[Aristophanes]

Also Ari

I literally never accused you of being scum for lack of posting or reading
You know who keeps bringing that up as a thing? Duckling.

Almost as if you're taking talking points from him.

My talking points are from Nancy Drew and I was told I was L-1 and ready to be lynched because you're pushing a scum!me narrative based on, like, iunno tonal shit and inactivity was kinda my assumption.

I was asked to get in here and explain myself, so I did. I have legit no idea what TW thinks about my slot.

[Aristophanes]

Lol imma get mislynched D1 again.

Wooooo! Love this shit.

[Aristophanes]

RC you still read town to me just fyi

[Aristophanes]

Same as before.

What part of "I literally have not read the game and thus cannot have changed my reads" is so hard?

[Aristophanes]

That was rude I'm just frustrated. Sorry.

[Aristophanes]

No it's okay man, I get that the game goes on whether I'm herenor not and I should be a part of it. It frustrates me also that I cannot he atm.

I still honestly appreciate it <3

[Aristophanes]

I'm back btw!

Hopefully I can stop being useless now

[Aristophanes]

Aristophanes. We meet at last.
What's on your mind?

Worstie! =D

I'm just thinking I should Iso players that have manageable postcounts to start and see where I get from that.
Honestly should probably start cleanslated reads-wise. I don't remember my reasoning from when the game opened for most of my reads.

Like I just read through Teacher and while he is pretty surfacy in his reads and doesn't look like he's trying to advance the game, I know that wasn't my reason for my initial read. It definitely doesn't look too good on him though.

How are you, TW?
Is there anything in particular you'd like me to look at?

[Aristophanes]

Ari are you legitimately telling us that ND and Auto don't have a list of their reads for you to start from?

I mean, they gave me a lot of quotes they wanted shared at you in particular, but no, I didn't request any reads or "starting posts" from them so none were provided, though they did offer.

[Aristophanes]

Also what's with all this "OmG hI WoRsTiE" like you're trying to signal not partners with how overblown your greeting is lol

Lmao I love TW! I was greeted and responded in kind

I've definitely done the same with you, my friend

[Aristophanes]

Also Ari

I literally never accused you of being scum for lack of posting or reading
You know who keeps bringing that up as a thing? Duckling.

Almost as if you're taking talking points from him.

My talking points are from Nancy Drew and I was told I was L-1 and ready to be lynched because you're pushing a scum!me narrative based on, like, iunno tonal shit and inactivity was kinda my assumption.

I was asked to get in here and explain myself, so I did. I have legit no idea what TW thinks about my slot.

Before your talking points were from Nancy Drew.

What talking points did she give you then vs now?

Most of what she gave me to work with is insights into RC's motives. And she pointed at you two and said you should, like, stop bickering and get along or something like that. My chat has been quiet mostly.

[Aristophanes]

Aristophanes. We meet at last.
What's on your mind?

Worstie! =D

I'm just thinking I should Iso players that have manageable postcounts to start and see where I get from that.
Honestly should probably start cleanslated reads-wise. I don't remember my reasoning from when the game opened for most of my reads.

Like I just read through Teacher and while he is pretty surfacy in his reads and doesn't look like he's trying to advance the game, I know that wasn't my reason for my initial read. It definitely doesn't look too good on him though.

How are you, TW?
Is there anything in particular you'd like me to look at?

Maybe go Iconeum if you dare? Reasonable post count but I think he's a pretty easy read atm. Is Nancy following this one? I'd be p interested in her summary of she is

I know she's not you but it she is up to date its easy to engage with her

And I'm doing ok thanks - how're you? Hope you're not working yourself too hard still.

I'll take a look at Ico, sure!

Nancy is following along mostly, yeah. I can get insights from my team, mostly it's just been about RC and Math tho. She is def easy to engage with tho.

And I'm doing well too! Eased off on working like a mad man and had my first driving lesson yesterday, which was actually not as scary as I've made it out to be!

Despite Auro reading this game in real time (I cannot talk about why I make this claim) and you being like weeks behind on the thread, he hasn't given you any of his reads. That doesn't really seem likely to me.

Auro has been keeping up with this and has made some comparisons with this and another game which I haven't parsed yet and am not sure if is AI for those in question (your team).

But no, I don't have active reads from my team. Unlikely or not.

[Aristophanes]

Guys I know this is team mafia but I prefer playing games based on my play with my team as an aid, not playing through my team. I'll go through what they said and give you a full summary, but that doesn't say much about myself, my reads, or my alignment, so it won't help sorting me, which I had thought was the point of my coming in, reading things, and presenting my thoughts which are undoubtedly going to be outdated and overlooked for the general "is this town or scum Ari" feel of the posts.

But sure, gimme a minute to do that since you'd rather engage with them.

[Aristophanes]

Talking about me and no read of me.

Nancy’s scum. Ari needs rope.

I never said they didn't give me reads of a few players, but it's not like I have a readslist from them. I think you and rc are townies and they agree but I'll get you more specifics since I skim what they said, I skim what I read, and I have a generally bad memory.

[Aristophanes]

And I'm doing well too! Eased off on working like a mad man and had my first driving lesson yesterday, which was actually not as scary as I've made it out to be!

Congratulations, glad you're taking care of yourself. Driving is a fair bit of fun tbh as long as you've got a good teacher/instructor.

Could you maybe ask Auro/Nancy why they don't have reads? I know scum!Nancy is by her own account kinda infamous for having low solving content so if she in particular could update us on how she's reading the game that'd help a lot.

Sure, I can do that.

And thanks! I'm hoping to like actually take care of myself this year for once

[Aristophanes]

But sure, gimme a minute to do that since you'd rather engage with them.

Tbh we would rather engage with both

I agree with this but you’re prob scum coaching him soooooo

I'm trying not to be offended that you think I'd coach this.

Big oof

[Aristophanes]

Okay so I took a look at our PT and the last usage of it was to share out role PMs so that's no help

Nancy Drew has made it abundantly clear that Math is a huge town read and I agree with her.
She also said RC should know better than to scumread me like in Timeshift Mafia and I should remind him of it because it's another mislynch situation.
And that Math should lay off of RC.
And she will smack anyone who scumreads me upside the head in postgame, if that is any incentive

Nancy also was pushing a lot to give me reads and help with making posts for me and Auro was willing too. I suppose I should have taken them up on that. Alas.

Auro hasn't said much but earlier thought RC was a scum possibility for pushing me as scum without any good reason we could discern.
They also pointed me to a post or two that don't jive well if considered across the TM board but I don't know how to address that or what it means reads-wise so that's all Imma say there.

Uh, that's it. That's all I got form the team, probably because I wasn't asking for help and in fact, actively deterred them from giving it. I have always been averse to getting help so I guess that's another thing I should work on.

Anyway, that's the input so far and I asked them to give me more so there ya go.

[Aristophanes]

@TW I read most of Ico and they're fairly obvtowm imo for a few reasons. That's a good read to start with, thanks

[Aristophanes]

Either that or the worst just spewed both of you and Ari scum with him for no reason. Like it doesn’t net scum TW anything.

I gotta go we need more people but I am pretty sure TW actually doesn’t want to lynch you and it’s noise and your job was to pull the lynch off Ari if you’re scum.

Ok

So why don't you actually vote the duck with me

Isn't that optimal with your current thought process

I agree that TW doesn't want to lynch me and it's all noise. I've been saying that for a long time. What that doesn't mean is that I'm scum.

With 5 days left support gan be garnered for literally anyone. I don't see this as a reasonable statement.

Not that I want a TW lynch, but I don't think making an "It's Ari or a possible NL" is at all reasonable.

Because you don’t want to lynch Ari who my team agrees is scum and who you and TW keep fighting to cover the fact Ari hasn’t provided a single read. If I am wrong I see my crow.

You even spent 45 minutes last night talking with yourself trying to get a response out of me.

Furthermore we have the people for Ari. We don’t for TW. I will take a likely lynch of probable scum over a possible lynch of probable scum and a possible NL.

[Aristophanes]

Uh...I screwed that up somehow one sec

[Aristophanes]

Either that or the worst just spewed both of you and Ari scum with him for no reason. Like it doesn’t net scum TW anything.

I gotta go we need more people but I am pretty sure TW actually doesn’t want to lynch you and it’s noise and your job was to pull the lynch off Ari if you’re scum.

Ok

So why don't you actually vote the duck with me

Isn't that optimal with your current thought process

I agree that TW doesn't want to lynch me and it's all noise. I've been saying that for a long time. What that doesn't mean is that I'm scum.

Because you don’t want to lynch Ari who my team agrees is scum and who you and TW keep fighting to cover the fact Ari hasn’t provided a single read. If I am wrong I see my crow.

You even spent 45 minutes last night talking with yourself trying to get a response out of me.

Furthermore we have the people for Ari. We don’t for TW. I will take a likely lynch of probable scum over a possible lynch of probable scum and a possible NL.

With 5 days left support gan be garnered for literally anyone. I don't see this as a reasonable statement.

Not that I want a TW lynch, but I don't think making an "It's Ari or a possible NL" is at all reasonable.

Fixed. Sorry

[Aristophanes]

Ari needs to provide reads and solve which was the reason to wait until today.

What’s RC’s excuse now?

It’s Sunday and not a single actionable scumread from Ari.

Shit man, I came is, got asked for my team's reads, and am trying to stay caught up. I'll just ignore current posts and go to my Iso plan then.

I'm getting more townreads than scumreads this game, which is fine. I am hoping to PoE the scum if I keep this up, which is viable imo.

Ok let's make this really simple ari
vote TW or my votes back on you.

I have no reason to vote TW other than this and I don't want to be strongarmed into voting there in a survivalistic attempt to remain in the game.

I'll take a better look at the slot once I'm done with the smaller Isos but I cannot promise I will vote there.

[Aristophanes]

Love you too, RC

[Aristophanes]

Ari needs to provide reads and solve which was the reason to wait until today.

What’s RC’s excuse now?

It’s Sunday and not a single actionable scumread from Ari.

Idk how you didn't see RC backing off Ari to get more support on a TW lynch coming. That was hard telegraphed.

> Implying RC and I are scummates


Nice.

[Aristophanes]

This is exhausting, what the hell

Ari i am thoroughly underwhelmed

Was there anything particularly addreased to me in the last like 6 pages, because i didnt really read them

I almost want to lynch in {tw/rc} now just to resolve this mess and move on

Sorry to disappoint, Skitty! I'm an underwhelming person tbh.

Also, like, not really worth reading, no.
The pages appeared because I appeared and I should just go back to being too busy for this since I'm gonna be scumread regardless I suppose

[Aristophanes]

Alright, so Xtoxm literally hasn't posted, like, anything game related. Pretty much a full null read there because I can't read a slot based on nothing.

I was reeeeeally gonna say Flopz obvscummed in their first posts and the AtE is so real from them but I just got to 1272 so let's see how they are after a reevaluation.
Hmm....I liked that post but there isn't much after it to support a townread. Like I get the feeling they're coasting from it and are going to post minimally from now until mid D2 unless they get pressured because why ruffle feathers?
Honestly, scumlean on this slot despite the one decent post. More of that and I might change my mind.

@ari, when have you seen me play scum? (Re 870)

Spoiler: 870, for reference

The one thing that makes me raise an eyebrow at Bella is this here:

(I'd vote for plum but my teammates like that they chatted to their team about ari. I'm thinking about it.)

It's a little LAMIST but very subtly and a subtly yet explicit LAMIST is kinda the on point play I'd expect from Bella scum.

But I'm sure I'm reading too much into it.

I don't think it's so much that I remember your scumgame, it's more about perceptions about your play in general. It felt like something I could expect from you as scum, because you are a finely tuned player and I know you are good.

With all this in mind I really don't know how to read Bella. I want to say town but nothing screams towny in their posts and questions. Not enough to give anything close to a scumread though.

Gonna post this and continue because why not.

[Aristophanes]

Ari we just kind held up the game for like 5 irl days waiting for u to come back so i was kinda hoping that you, or your teammates would have some current thoughts on the game

No I get it I just have to, like, read the game first that's all!

I've pinged the team and Nancy's like, really busy and overgamed but if you guys have specific input you want from her she can work on that.
On the same note I told her to self-care first so please be thoughtful when asking things because she'll put this ahead of her own health if you ask her to and I really don't want that to happen!

But yeah, any specific questions and she'll put a focused effort on it.

[Aristophanes]

Good god can you guys stop for like long enough that new pages arent appearing in the time it takea me to write a single post ??

[Aristophanes]

Plum reads very empty. Like there's a surface of content and meaning but it doesn't become anything. I'll scum-bank this one.

Tris still looks scummy and Iunno why I'm bothering to read things because my reads have remained unchanged from my initial perceptions of people and things.

Also I talked with Nancy a bit more and she says MathBlade is going to lead town off a cliff if we follow their reads so that's fun. She'd trust RC more but that's based off experience not off this game. I should note that both of these have no effect on her reads of wither of you.
Also @TW Nancy says because of Ank and Dann she can read you accurately if you provide an updated readslist. I suppose I'd appreciate one from you so she can give said input.

[Aristophanes]

Plum reads very empty. Like there's a surface of content and meaning but it doesn't become anything. I'll scum-bank this one.

Tris still looks scummy and Iunno why I'm bothering to read things because my reads have remained unchanged from my initial perceptions of people and things.

Also I talked with Nancy a bit more and she says MathBlade is going to lead town off a cliff if we follow their reads so that's fun. She'd trust RC more but that's based off experience not off this game. I should note that both of these have no effect on her reads of wither of you.
Also @TW Nancy says because of Ank and Dann she can read you accurately if you provide an updated readslist. I suppose I'd appreciate one from you so she can give said input.

Update to this, TW StrongTown Should be Sheeped Is best duck <3 Brilliant team as well!
Nancy FTW

And if you flip town I won’t be leading with my reads.

Nancy is also missing something she needs as town. So whatever.

Missing something? Like the time to commit to this game on top of her other commitments?

[Aristophanes]

Man this game sucks at reads.

[Aristophanes]

au revoiristophanes

I didn't quite get the rest of the post tbh RC.

[Aristophanes]

Nancy Drew 39 respect me more than to just loltownread my top scumread.

Well Iunno what to tell you but that she thinks TW is more sheepable than you this game, but you are at least far more sheepable than Math, if that's any consolation

[Aristophanes]

Uh I have an issue.

What might that be?

[Aristophanes]

If you’re not voting Ari people please vote Ari. Thank you!

[Aristophanes]

If you’re not voting Ari people please vote Ari. Thank you!

What's he on "L"-wise?

Lynching me would be a big "L" if that helps

[Aristophanes]

If you’re not voting Ari people please vote Ari. Thank you!

What's he on "L"-wise?

No idea. I just know this shit needs to end and there hasn’t been a vote count in a while.

Pretty sure I have 4-5 votes on me.

7 to lynch.

[Aristophanes]

all of us like ari's current posting for town.

I will emerge from deep within my hidden bunker just to join in on saying how utterly ridiculous that is. I will slink back down into the depths until need be. To quote the most loved and respected slot in this game "bad duck, no breadcrumbs for you."

Hey got any reads?

While I have been "reading along", there's been so much just stuff that it's hard to parse it all. I haven't finished my reads on half the players tbh, the only people I've gone through all of their ISO's are the ones I talked about in my singular post of actual content.

What I would say is that I would vote for the duck and Ari no problem without looking back.

Cool, I'll put you into the pile that has SHIT READS like most of the rest of the game.

[Aristophanes]

If you’re not voting Ari people please vote Ari. Thank you!

What's he on "L"-wise?

No idea. I just know this shit needs to end and there hasn’t been a vote count in a while.

Pretty sure I have 4-5 votes on me.

7 to lynch.

Yh, that's what I was asking thanks. VOTE: Ari

I shouldn't have helped.

[Aristophanes]

Ok well you're all in luck. Have fun with TM and shit.

RC I hope you're not leaving us

[Aristophanes]

UNVOTE:

I think that j should unvote since I am probably getting s replacement.

So RC+Ari practically confirmed by this post.

[Aristophanes]

UNVOTE:

I think that j should unvote since I am probably getting s replacement.

So RC+Ari practically confirmed by this post.

where are you even getting this from ...

Town RC or scum RC + Town Ari sees the day to completion.

RC imho is quitting because he can’t get his way.

Math, he's obviously worried about getting force-replaced for some reason and I think reading into it is really shitty.

[Aristophanes]

UNVOTE:

I think that j should unvote since I am probably getting s replacement.

So RC+Ari practically confirmed by this post.

where are you even getting this from ...

Town RC or scum RC + Town Ari sees the day to completion.

RC imho is quitting because he can’t get his way.

Math, he's obviously worried about getting force-replaced for some reason and I think reading into it is really shitty.

Like regardless of anyone's alignment in this game.

[Aristophanes]

lolcatting

I had to look that up.

Lol nope but I started putting in effort and it did nothing but somehow get me more votes so w/e I'm going back to having fun like I did at the start of this game! XD

[Aristophanes]

[Aristophanes]

Current reads scum TW+RC+Ari

These are all town and you are ridiculous.

Nancy was right about your reads being utter shite!

[Aristophanes]

Aaaaanyway before I die...

Town: TW, RC, Math, Icon
Lean Town: Skitty, RCE
Null: XtoxLive, Bella
Lean Scum: Teacher, Flopz, Plum, Tris

[Aristophanes]

Current reads scum TW+RC+Ari

These are all town and you are ridiculous.

Nancy was right about your reads being utter shite!

i just opened the thread to this
who broke ari?

idk but he's been lolcatting since i've been here so

I'm not I just put some effort in and found it ain't doing shit.
And I figure there's no point sugarcoating things so I'm just fucking around and giving you my thoughts as they are.

So deal with it.

[Aristophanes]

Plus I'm the defacto lynch so no matter what I do I'm done apparently??

So I'm gonna enjoy my time here. Lynch me at your leisure and enjoy having bad reads.

[Aristophanes]

Current reads scum TW+RC+Ari

These are all town and you are ridiculous.

Nancy was right about your reads being utter shite!

i just opened the thread to this
who broke ari?

idk but he's been lolcatting since i've been here so

Sanity check me please?

Ari seems more bragging than lolcatting?

Is it possible TW+Ari is TvT? I don’t think it is just sanity check please.

What do you mean TvT?
We never argued anything!

LOL

[Aristophanes]

Ari vs TW:

[Aristophanes]

Let's see how this issue resolves before rushing anything

I agree.

Anything else to say?

[Aristophanes]

Is it possible TW+Ari is TvT? I don’t think it is just sanity check please.

i don't think so

Thanks. Now let’s wait and hope Ari can be lynched and this day ends.

Pedit: Or we can give a replacement if one is needed overnight to read and not be dropped into pressure.

Or we could throw the replacement into the fire!

[Aristophanes]

#2517 is actually hilarious
guys ari is not lolcatting. he is someone who is being ridiculed while trying to catch up on a fastmoving game
him turning down nancy/auro offering help is like... aggressively in character

might i suggest...voting scum~~?

<3

Thanks for being a voice of reason in this game, my friend

I'll try to be good.

[Aristophanes]

I'm not voting Duck btw. Sorry RC

[Aristophanes]

RC if you're making the day boil down to an RC/Ari/TW lynchpool I am going to have to vote you because of the 3 of us you are most likely scum despite not being a scumread at all.

Do you really want this to happen?
Because I really don't want this to happen.

[Aristophanes]

no, he was for very significant portions of the game, and that is why we almost lynched him and ptu the game on hold for like 4 irl days, remember?

I'm really sorry about that. I do feel bad.

I just legit couldn't be here.

I should have accepted my lynch then instead of dragging all this out because what a shitshow I've created

[Aristophanes]

Man I hope we have a vig. I really do.

Can we please just end this day already?

SURE!

VOTE: RC

[Aristophanes]

My team has implied I should get Math lynched for his bad reads in order to save the game and I think that's hilarious.

[Aristophanes]

You're just scum I hope Ari. *shrug*

I'm just bad.

I'm sorry.

I don't know what else to do. TW and Math are my main townreads, you're secondary to them.
And despite my temptations I'm not selfvoting.
So...I could just not vote I guess?

[Aristophanes]

Jesus Christ every single player in this game knows that I'm the best scumhunter present and I can't get people to vote obvscum

I do thow this and also our reads don't jive so...sorry?

I hate everyone in this game honestly.

I still think you're a rad dude.

[Aristophanes]

The vig better shoot Ari if we have one. Because I can’t ignore RC+Me+Titus+BBMolla read I just can’t.

But you're all fucking wrong!

I love y'all, but no.

[Aristophanes]

The vig is your punishment for townreading scum duckling

Fine!
Waste a fucking vig on me!

Sorry for having independent reads this game. I'll be a good little sheep next time, how's that?

[Aristophanes]

Ari is an acceptable vig in terms of I don't expect it to be town but honestly I don't expect it to be scum either but yeah it's a fine vig.

Normal games of this size can’t have a 3P

He means that I'm such a questionmark that it's better to vig me and save a lynch that will yield relatively null info. Not that I'm 3p.

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: The worst

This game is so exhausting

L-2/L-3 I think

Ari should have been our lynch.

Why are you so fucking insistent we lynch town!?!?

UGGH

[Aristophanes]

The vig is your punishment for townreading scum duckling

Fine!
Waste a fucking vig on me!

Sorry for having independent reads this game. I'll be a good little sheep next time, how's that?

You're talking to the wrong person if you expect me to say no tbh

Trueeeeee

[Aristophanes]

Just fyi, y'all are making Nancy Drew very uptight and she keeps yelling about how you are WOATs and are handing scum the win. Well, I'm part of the WOAT group probably? I'm definitely not helping.

I'm pretty sure the big 3, Math, TW, RC, are all town and this is killing us.

Basically we think this game is devolving to the state where scum can lynch anyone they want, even RC, and get away with it. This will be a scum win and we're doing it to ourselves!

[Aristophanes]

Mafia is a bad game.

Also Ari's on but not posting

Yeah, there's a lot to read here and I need the occasional break so my head can rest every few mins because damn. Just damn.

[Aristophanes]

You're saying

That Nancy Drew

Believes that her reads are better than mine on TW

I'M SAYING YOU'RE BOTH FUCKING TOWN AND THIS 1V1 IS IDIOTIC BUT YOU'VE DONE IT TO YOURSELVES AND NEITHER OF US IS OKAY WITH IT BUT SO BE IT BECAUSE RC DECIDED TO 1V1 ANOTHER TOWNIE AND IT'S GONNA DESTROY THE WHOLE FUCKING GAME OKAY!!!

[Aristophanes]

Like that seems very uncharacteristic for her

She has a lot of respect for me and this just... doesn't seem right.

Yeah, so do I. But we're allowed to disagree with those we fucking respect!

Respect =/= blindly follow into oblivion because FOCK THAT

[Aristophanes]

Just fyi, y'all are making Nancy Drew very uptight and she keeps yelling about how you are WOATs and are handing scum the win. Well, I'm part of the WOAT group probably? I'm definitely not helping.

I'm pretty sure the big 3, Math, TW, RC, are all town and this is killing us.

Basically we think this game is devolving to the state where scum can lynch anyone they want, even RC, and get away with it. This will be a scum win and we're doing it to ourselves!

Why do you think I am pushing you in case of that possibility?

I guess that should be a was :/

Well I obviously don't fickig agree with a push on myself and neither does she so ???

[Aristophanes]

You're saying

That Nancy Drew

Believes that her reads are better than mine on TW

I'M SAYING YOU'RE BOTH FUCKING TOWN AND THIS 1V1 IS IDIOTIC BUT YOU'VE DONE IT TO YOURSELVES AND NEITHER OF US IS OKAY WITH IT BUT SO BE IT BECAUSE RC DECIDED TO 1V1 ANOTHER TOWNIE AND IT'S GONNA DESTROY THE WHOLE FUCKING GAME OKAY!!!

owo what's this

This is me trying to get through to you the idea that you are possibly wrong here and I don't feel like reeling in my chill atm so there you go!

[Aristophanes]

Like if at 7:42 (1 hr from now) TW hasn’t claimed hammer please.

Why? So we can cut off discussions early?
Get outta here!

You are swearing a lot more than I've seen you do as town.

Otoh who exactly are you scumreading?

Yeah, I know. I'm worked up about this game because I can't do anything about the fact that my townreads are about to implode what is already a fucked up gamestate and hand it to the scum!

I posted a readslist already in case I was the lynch, did I not?

[Aristophanes]

Srsly

What if I'm right like I was on SS and Volpe

???

[Aristophanes]

Why? So we can cut off discussions early?
Get outta here!

Dude

You are so scum with TW lol

Send Nancy my <3

I'm really not!

But I'll pass that on.

I'm just so done, and I wasn't even here for the majority of this shit!
I can't imagine how this game is still going!
Like damn.

[Aristophanes]

ari [is] tonally he's very sound,

Ya I might have bombed this since you started writing the post TW...

[Aristophanes]

I posted a readslist already in case I was the lynch, did I not?

Yea. Not that convincing to me. In part bc you left duck off it.

Aaaaanyway before I die...

Town:

TW

, RC, Math, Icon
Lean Town: Skitty, RCE
Null: XtoxLive, Bella
Lean Scum: Teacher, Flopz, Plum, Tris

?????

[Aristophanes]

Now we can hammer the worst but I have a sick feeling this is wrong and Ari should be the lynch but it’s more important this day ends.

You're wrong on both accounts.
Well done!

I guess I missed that when I iso Ed you. Even checked myself an everything. (I didn’t make a big deal out of it because it was fairly clear where you stood, but it had stuck to me.). My B

It's coo, just wanted to make sure it was rectified

math, I’d rather Ari though I get the desire for the day to end.

Can you or skit talk to me about RC’s new position that tw and ari are both scum // respond to 2647 and 2757?

Neither is a really good option! Why don't we lynch scum instead??

[Aristophanes]

rc hasn't had a new position for *checks watch*
600 posts?

So like, the last hour?

[Aristophanes]

As I said earlier Teacher I don’t think Raybells expected me to work with him so he could push his buddy is my theory if Rc/Ari are a thing.

Like mainly I am certain Ari is. I just like want Raybells to be scum, but I am so much more confident Ari is.

I'd ask for a better explanation why but I get the feeling you're not going to be swayed and I'd be wasting my breath so...

[Aristophanes]

Confscum

Okay RC

[Aristophanes]

Okay Ari.

I mean, Nancy knows if no one else does that when I say that I mean it.

I know you're serious. I just don't think you're right!

Literally I have a guilty on duck

He's dying today

Stop this please D1 guilties are not normal on MS.

This is your scum meta. Please stop.

Nah he does this as any alignment tbh.
And we all know his D1 guilties are merely extremely confident reads.

Wait, we all know that, right?

[Aristophanes]

Okay Ari.

I mean, Nancy knows if no one else does that when I say that I mean it.

I know you're serious. I just don't think you're right!

Literally I have a guilty on duck

He's dying today

Stop this please D1 guilties are not normal on MS.

This is your scum meta. Please stop.

Nah he does this as any alignment tbh.
And we all know his D1 guilties are merely extremely confident reads.

Wait, we all know that, right?

He claimed invest in Lynch The Wolves
He claimed a guilty in Lynch the Wolves
He was scum in Lynch the Wolves with an investigative power

Like I get the fact RC hates I scumread him
But I am tired of being viewed as crazy when this is literal history repeating itself.

I just want this day over

He claims guilties in like a quarter of his games regardless of role or alignment tho. It's just an RC thing.
Like mastina claiming masons. It doesn't mean anything mechanically most times, but it says a lot about their reads.

[Aristophanes]

UNVOTE: RC

I don't want to be a part of this TvT 1v1 anymore.

[Aristophanes]

Yup.

Because they 1v1'd.

And I decided to take part so we can end this while being vocal about my disdain for it.

And not I don't want to be a oart of it.

But if this shit is going to continue D2 I'm going to have to revote and it's still going to be on RC.

God Dammit I hate this game sometimes!

[Aristophanes]

Not like I tried to hide it.

Pretty sure I yelled about it.

Also, sorry about that.

[Aristophanes]

I always have faith I'll be lynched

[Aristophanes]

Dude.

I'm obvtown in every sense of the word, but no one sees it.

You're comparing apples to oranges here.

If no one sees it is it really obvious?

[Aristophanes]

Sorry, I've devolved into "little shit" Ari so Imma leave now.

It's been a slice.

[Aristophanes]

duck: 1v1 me rc you're obvscum
also duck: voting outside is is stupid
also also duck: why would i ever start a 1v1 i'm going to lose
also also also duck: we're not ending this 1v1 today even if it means my lynch just lynch rc d2 easy game
also also also also duck: VOTE: plum

Well this is interesting!

[Aristophanes]

Hey Ari you had two nights to catch up. Reads or die.

Uh, I read almost everyone's Isos and was heavily active upon my return to the thread. What gives you the impression I need to/plan to read the parts of the thread where you played ref to RC and TW bickering on while trying to lynch me?

Also, RC, I told you Ducks was town!
I sooooo want to turbolynch your ass atm but I still townread you so Im going to refrain.

[Aristophanes]

Active lurking is a thing.

You still haven’t given reads.

I don’t get this whole “being townie” thing being optional to people it isn’t.

Uh...

Aaaaanyway before I die...

Town: TW, RC, Math, Icon
Lean Town: Skitty, RCE
Null: XtoxLive, Bella
Lean Scum: Teacher, Flopz, Plum, Tris

[Aristophanes]

Also, active lurking??

You mean being away and not reading anything and then getting back, reading most slots in a very short timespan, getting emotionally invested to the point of raging and getting drained, and then having the hammer drop so no more conversation could even happen?

Like wtf, how are you framing me as actively lurking!?!? XD

[Aristophanes]

....I agree entirely with math's posting since day start.

Why teacher? Teacher was one of the few votes on tw which objectively didn't suck, a fact which saved his fairly neutral iso when I reread.

Like I just read through Teacher and while he is pretty surfacy in his reads and doesn't look like he's trying to advance the game, I know that wasn't my reason for my initial read. It definitely doesn't look too good on him though.

[Aristophanes]

"Objectively didn't suck"
...

VOTE: tw

Quack

How exactly did this save his iso? XD

[Aristophanes]

Like wtf Bella

[Aristophanes]

Active lurking is a thing.

You still haven’t given reads.

I don’t get this whole “being townie” thing being optional to people it isn’t.

Uh...

Aaaaanyway before I die...

Town: TW, RC, Math, Icon
Lean Town: Skitty, RCE
Null: XtoxLive, Bella
Lean Scum: Teacher, Flopz, Plum, Tris

Those are not expanded on. There’s nothing deep.

Like every time I see your posts you just feel scummy. Can you like convince me you’re town please?

My teammates want me to tunnel you and I am trying not to me that dude.

I expanded on them by giving thoughts after each Iso. I gave reasons for most if not all of them!

I also rethought a few thoughts from my initial reads and ended up with Skitter a lot higher than they were originally.

I can find you my posts with reasoning on each one if you like?

But it's not like I didn't put the work in to get there and it's not like I didn't actually state my reasons. Maybe it all got drowned out tho by the infighting between literally almost all my strong townreads last phase.

And my meta here is probably pretty different than it has been so tell your team, lovingly, that they are wrong. Not necessarily bad, just wrong.

[Aristophanes]

Onv she does think I'm scum, which LOL nope

[Aristophanes]

Obv*

And so what he ended the day early? He also like, delayed that hammer to let the thread continue for a while which I don't think had any protown use to it.

I think you're reading way more into his motivations, Bella.
And I think you scumreading me is tainting your view on him.

[Aristophanes]

Somehow missed a bunch of posts after that but before mine sorry.

Np np

"Objectively didn't suck"
...

VOTE: tw

Quack

How exactly did this save his iso? XD

I mean you agree there’s a shit ton more to my iso on why I voted duck right? Why are you playing dumb?

I know there is but that's not the point.

[Aristophanes]

i'm a little nervous that he's doing that to get people to back off him today given yesterday

also @rc if your'e town and scum are that scared of your guilty they just .... nk you ?

I mean, hood chance we lynch him at some point right?

I'd definitely be pushing for his lynch as scum

[Aristophanes]

And sorry Math, I'll start being useful ot something soon probably

[Aristophanes]

Math, can you not just assume I am town and make reads accordingly? It'd make my life so much easier!

[Aristophanes]

I am going to go but if Ari is not lynched today I am gonna flip some shit.

Whyyyyy?

So you can sort RC if I flip scum?

I ain't gonna and then you're STILL going to call for an RC lynch either because hes an investigative and shouldn't have been left alive unless he is scum or because he's still a questionmark because if TW was town and I was town then RC has to be acum because TvS makes sense here to you.

You're lining shit up perfectly for a scum sweep and I hate it! It is really making me want to rethink my townread on you.

[Aristophanes]

I believe I was not actually. I had realized Larges were no longer my style by that point and did not join it.

Ninja'd
Ya that.

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Plum

I'm down to bus it

[Aristophanes]

Ya ikr like what even is my tone atm? Like even I don't know tbh

Buuuuut I'm still not scum so whatever XD

Let's lynch in my scum list because voting for them is fun and somehow I'm being seen as a scumbuddy for them which is lol but w/e amirite

[Aristophanes]

Just one question Ari

Spicy or bland?

Yes you get no context suck it up.

Ooooo!

I mean, spicy, but the flavourful kind where you enjoy the elements of the spice! None of this Frank's red hot bs!

[Aristophanes]

There's a reason my vote is still on Ari.

Is that reason that you are bad or that you are scum?

[Aristophanes]

Just one question Ari

Spicy or bland?

Yes you get no context suck it up.

Ooooo!

I mean, spicy, but the flavourful kind where you enjoy the elements of the spice! None of this Frank's red hot bs!

Do you have anything to add so far to this day?

I'm just catching up now. Also geez gimme some time to do shit XD

[Aristophanes]

I'm still like fine with Ari dying at some point just that if he dies now I think that town loses because I'll die the next day and town is in lylo with very little to go on.

This is literally my biggest worry this game and my prediction for a town loss is just about 100% if I am lynched today.

[Aristophanes]

Also I think there's basically a 0% chance of an Ari scumteam that doesn't include AT LEAST 1/2 Tris/Plum.

I will literally help you lynch both, I promise!

[Aristophanes]

Because of my postcount I won't say anything unless you directly address me so let me know if there's something you want my response to.

RC, I don't know about the rest of the thread but for me, like, you have been great this phase and it's not postcount that gets me with you, it's your 1v1s. That was what got yesterday muddled. I love seeing you post your thoughts and I hope it's okay that you do so freely. It's just when it becomes a 1v1 that toxicity and passion take over and it's too much.

Love ya my guy

[Aristophanes]

The only game RC tried to keep me alive as a scummate in was one where he fakeclaimed my role and if I died we both died. I almost gave up but atuck around and fought so he could win. I think it was Plotinus Mafia iirc when mafia games based on MS Members was an in thing.

If you compare these games it is extremely different here where I feel it would be similar if we were scummates and I were the PR. Just an interesting thought perspective from experience, tho selfmeta in a time when my meta is prolly whack to maybe grain of salt it.

[Aristophanes]

Link it please?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=65977 main thread

I'll try to find the scum pt

[Aristophanes]

My memory served, it was Plotinus mafia!

This must have really stuck with me because fuck, I barely remember yesterday XD XD

[Aristophanes]

Link it please?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=65977 main thread

I'll try to find the scum pt

Mafia mathematician haha

Sorry needed some humor for this shit day

Mathemakitten*

Also found the scum PT https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=65978

I havent reread but I vividly remember being ready to quit before realizing I had no choice but to fight! If you can honestly say RC and I look like scumbuddies here compared to this I'd love to hear how you bullshit it XD

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My reads have remained somewhat consistent since my last quoting of my readslist.

Plum is suspect #1 atm, but Tris and Flopz are up there. In fact Flopz's latest posting has made them jump in scum equity imo.

Teacher is more null than previously and Xtoxm is a little more on the towny side. Bella got a little scum equity from her ineptitude at reading me. My townread slots remain consistent despite my wanting yku to he scum for being bad and my wanting to quicklynch RC for the TW lynch.

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Inb4 this is either stagnating on reads or entirely predicted and therefore scummy somehow.

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and my wanting to quicklynch RC for the TW lynch.

Why the flip do you want this

We're friends right? And you think I'm town?

Sorry what?

Sorry that was to reflect a kneejerk reaction at daystart that I didn't follow through on. You are town and I don't actually want that my friend

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moon logic that I can begin to explain

<3 u Titus

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Hey, Skitty, are you around?

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for a few minutes, yeah

kk nvm.

I was wondering kinda if you had anything specific you wanted to talk out with me/have me look into/have me address because I feel like you are the best person jnt he game to be both active enough and impartial enough to ebgage with properly in order for us both to gain solid, proper reads on multiple slots.

I'd love to do a real-time jam with you.

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And you're not interested in doing that w/ me, Ari?

I dont think it will help us read each other, bor others read us, so not particularly.

Also I think we are pretty much on the same page already so it is a little redundant.

I can if you wanna realtime, RC I just don't think the benefits are as high as they could be with someone like Skitty

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And you're not interested in doing that w/ me, Ari?

I dont think it will help us read each other, bor others read us, so not particularly.

Also I think we are pretty much on the same page already so it is a little redundant.

I can if you wanna realtime, RC I just don't think the benefits are as high as they could be with someone like Skitty

Jesus Christ dude.

You realize that regardless of D1 I'm pretty good at mafia right

I mean, obviously!
Youre one of my Mafia Idols as any alignment and I have nothing but the utmost respect for you!

That doesn't mean that ideal play is to realtime with you. In this case, it isn't going to convince anyone we aren't same-aligned and it isn't going to change our reads since they're pretty similar between us.

If you took that as a slight I apologize, but it was in no way meant as one.

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Something is wrong

something is definitely wrong.

Why do I get the feeling it is me that is "wrong" here

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UNVOTE:

Plum if you're town I really need you to show that to me

Pick a time that you can be on and can we talk

What, you don't want to talk to me??

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Ari why are you sucking up to everyone besides me

I suck up tk everyone including you. Its just my way of being!

Did you not notice I told y ok u you should overpost, just jkt 1v1? That was me sucking up some.

This is prolly a shitty post but so be it. Sorry.

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You aren't going to be lynched so why do I need to defend you showingly?

You are a prime townread of mine. I thought that would be enough

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Like Skitter is calling me scum right now

You're not stepping in...?

It's not going to lead to a lynch and she is more trying to sort you than anything atm from what I can tell. If I thought it were a serious threat I'd hard defend you! It is not a necessity atm.

Like, she is jot pooking for me to push back on you, she is looking for your content and reactions in order to gain a rounded read on you separate from the rest of the thread. I would actually do a disservice by stepping in to defend you right now

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VOTE: Plum

I'm down to bus it

Okay I lied one vote.

On an inactive player
And he objected to votes on him when inactive

I also voted RC in the 1v1, math

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No you would not be doing me a disservice if you stepped in ro defend me right now I literally am asking people to hurry the fuck up and lynch me how can you possibly post that

k but you're not today's lynch if ever so

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rc there's literally like a third of the game not playing rn

Ok

And you can't force them to play

Because they know that in the end everyone is gonna turn around and lynch me

Nonono

Like I don't see you lynched unless I am first and I'm not today's lynch so neither are you

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Ari

If you had to unilaterally lynch someone by EoD or town loses who do you lynch?

Plum or Flopz.

Probanly the latter for just...just bad and wierd posts with icky vibes and bad reasoning.

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bullshit.

Big Oof

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JJH927 Last visited:Yesterday, 10:09 pm

So, want to talk about how the person who isn't here told you to lynch me?

Bigger Oof

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RC stop it

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My last visited also shows me at 9:40pm yesterday so Iunno how accurate that is tbh...

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@Ari

You were townreading me at 1 point yet i still haven't seen you reach out to me/try to work with me

Why's that?

Heya!

Time constraints mostly. I also feel good about your posting and whatnot and I haven't really seen much in the game that has changed my reads as they sit so I'm kinda in a little space of "I don't need to change my reads and everyone else if wrong" because most other reads are contingent on either myself or RC being scum and neither of us are.

The other problem with that is that I don't think I can change minds about either of us so instead I want to interact with and case those who are potential scum not probable town. Issue there is that they are either inactive or so short on words it's almost impossible to do so.

So, like, I'll happily chat with you, Ico, but I need to interact with those who aren't interacting first and it's a little annoying. I have little to say because those I need to say things about aren't saying things for me to say things about.

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Like current V/LA list just grew.

Plum is replacing, Ico for the weekend, xtoxm, teacher for the weekend plus.

Tris is MIA, Bella is lowest content, RCE isn't around much, and Flopz says a few scummy lines then disappears every once in a while.

This leaves RC, Skitter, Math, and Myself as active posters and as actively talked about. This isn't a game where anyone else can be read and if one of the latter 4 gets lynched and another NK'd the game will end in a scum sweep for mere inactivity.

My reads are stagnant because the only people giving enough content to read are already solid reads and are the minority in the thread.

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Lol k

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So should I just, like, post memes all weekend or...?

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VOTE: ari

Trying to portray yourself as active in this game - and more so than me - is kindly just all the way off. “Active poster” ari my ass.

Okay but I am?

I was inactive for the first part of the game but since my work schedule cooled off I have been here actively. I have more posts than yourself in a far shorter timespan, and I would be more active if there were people other than Math and RC to interact with on a regular basis.

Also I was talking about the weekend specifically here and you are on a V/la so really you took my post and spun it in an ilunintended direction for whatever reason.

Your vote sucks and you should feel bad about it.
Case me if you think I'm scum

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I already asked Skitter to interact with me and she was logging off at the time. I don't feel that there has been much interaction there but there is potential which I m hopeful will become fruitful later.

Not an omission, merely already addressed in my intentions.

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Hi Ari.

Engage me. It's hard to post a lot of content when a lot of the thread is RC. I'm not dealing with RC today. .

Why are you scum reading teacher? It feels like you are being deliberately obtuse about him - how do you explain the hand waving you did over his RC vote? BC it feels like the handwaving you did over "Bella does this as scum...I meant she doesn't, but she could!'

Hey Bella!

Do you mean his vote on TW? Because he never voted RC that I can tell.

My comment about your potential scum ability was just that. With my understanding of your abilities as it is, I presumed it to be something I could see coming from Scum!Bella. It wasn't a major point and it hasn't done much for my sorting of you. It was merely a commemtary so I could keep it in mind as the game progressed and if anyone else had a similar insight it might spark somethig unnoticed by them previously.

As for Teacher he's probably a secondary scumread atm. I should probably reread his postng but just like his surface understanding of that last post, leading to a vote on me for something I didn't actually say, he has shown a very surface level inclination for most of the game leading me t ok think he is more likely to already have the answers, as scum do.