Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

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hi guys!

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I can feel the love, nacho. But you made the mistake of opening the game thread which ALSO had the f5 autoscript applied.

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SUCK IT MUFFIN BOY.

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Morph the cat: Still gone premium.

Also...

VOTE: MariaR

Three left feet.

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Prism! I'm looking forward to playing with you!

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Morph the cat: Still gone premium.

the superior pick for the situation

VOTE: Secret Tunnels

-b

<3

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the psychedelic cat with the nifty hat knows my name

were...were we friends in another life?

We are your friendly neighborhood stalkers.

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the psychedelic cat with the nifty hat knows my name

were...were we friends in another life?

Its fferyllt!

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the psychedelic cat with the nifty hat knows my name

were...were we friends in another life?

Its fferyllt!

Rude. The SPAY half of this hydra is fferyllt.

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Hey muffin, you should definitely read into post 14, and spend twenty pages of your notes PT waffling on if i'm actually blatantly crumb-claiming or not on page one. It'll be fun!

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Oh also something something pagetop.

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Give pagetop theft achievement. Have earned.

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Wait no, it's three pagetops. Two more to go.

Anyways.

Muffin, I have a really good plan for how we should do day one, but I need your buy-in.

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The game ffery modded and I played that I'm referencing, if you're curious

And I backup modded, as I have been known to do from time to time.

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I remember being really curious what you were like as a player after Dystopia, should be fun! Hopefully this one goes better+I don't drive myself to such obsessive lengths again

...Then again, this would be the game to do it

I also completely forgot I played Midsummer RIP

It's been a couple years since I last played mafia, so I'm curious what I'm like as a player, too!

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yeah, and I forgot the next couple of lines, but then it goes-

SECRET TUNNEL

SECRET TUNNEL

THROUGH THE MOUNTAIN

SECRET SECRET SECRET SECRET TUNNEEEEEEEL

Also I’m town that’s all

VOTE: cabdffery

What happened to our agreement about bussing?

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yeah, and I forgot the next couple of lines, but then it goes-

SECRET TUNNEL

SECRET TUNNEL

THROUGH THE MOUNTAIN

SECRET SECRET SECRET SECRET TUNNEEEEEEEL

Also I’m town that’s all

VOTE: cabdffery

</3

I am so sorry about your Role card, guys. I still love you.
What happened to our agreement about bussing?

I thought the agreement was that we can't bus when the game begins. Game didn't begin soooo

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Messed that quote up. :/

</3

I am so sorry about your Role card, guys. I still love you.

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Hey muffin, you should definitely read into post 14, and spend twenty pages of your notes PT waffling on if i'm actually blatantly crumb-claiming or not on page one. It'll be fun!

i'm not silly enough to read into something so insignificant... ... ... but i do find it interesting that you mentioned my name a rather large number of times before i'd even posted

It's because I have a PLAN!


Want to be let in on it?

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Way to meet my reach out with a hand slap.

I already was asleep for the day but now I have to go back and cry myself back to sleep.

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i feel depressed

i even said my biggest pursuit in life was to say "hi guys" before cabd

You did beat Cabd, so your pursuit is fulfilled!

This is probably the last time I use "hi guys" as a game entrance. It's special to me, but time marches on.

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Notsci!

Is your hydra partner the secret in the tunnel?

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Heh. You just reminded me that my nickname on another mafia site is "fairly lit".

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Aren't hydras supposed to sign their names

2013 called. It wants its hot topic debate back.

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It’s not a secret but I’ll let him introduce himself

He’s played with some of you

I will get an avatar eventually but I’m at work

No pressure but I'm expecting a literal god of mafia now.

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In all seriousness, when it is important that you know which half is which, we will indicate as such, but better to treat us as a single player who is constantly applying for self-therapy.

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UNVOTE:

Actually, maybe you need less drugs.

Now now, maybe they finally checked their role PM and they're actually masons with secret tunnels or something.

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I don’t understand what you were scum reading them for in the first place.

Opening couple posts I didn't like. Too all over the place. Recent two have been better.

You’re town.

I'm a schrodinger's cat who exists in a cloud of probabilities when unobserved. And I tend to agree.

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GiF! Shame on you!

It's page 5 and I can't townbin you.

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I know those feels.

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But what I'm not feeling is the GiFTown laser trained on my every little twitch.

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The mod is in Central Standard Time, we're just all mafia junkies.

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But what I'm not feeling is the GiFTown laser trained on my every little twitch.

gif is not how to town this slot

-b

My GiFTown reads tend to happen really fast when GiF is active. You are going to have to town above the mark you set last night, I'm afraid. I went to sleep with dread in my heart.

Maybe the confphase is obscuring things.

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I went to sleep with dread in my heart.

this is the most metal thing anyone has ever said about me(?)

-b

Is that a good thing?

metal things said sounds like a good thing.

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the psychedelic cat with the nifty hat knows my name

were...were we friends in another life?

Its fferyllt!

this is a neat post already

Like, what did you mean by this last night?

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Ok nevermind...
Hydras can be confusing

You can always ask who made which post if it matters.


But since hydrae share a role PM it's the same game player slot that makes all the posts.

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the psychedelic cat with the nifty hat knows my name

were...were we friends in another life?

Its fferyllt!

this is a neat post already

Like, what did you mean by this last night?

looked like a potential negative association for later

-b

Ok. That's a little less dreadful. Because if you were calling that AI for me there was never going to be a borktown read from me this game.

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We're cautiously liking bell, too. It's not the shiniest of our reads so far, but there's a little sparkle around the edges.

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Pagetops two!

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That's cute and all but how about some actual opinions?

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I’m townreading muffin bear and bell at this point

Is this notsci?

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I’m townreading muffin bear and bell at this point

66.66% is not a passing grade, even if your parents have low expectations for you, young man.

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i love touhou so im TRing remilla until further notice

This is still not content or context.

There are 7 pages of posts. Surely you can do better than gripes about hydrae and touhou jokes.

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I mistyped flan. Flan>remi

And yes

Which of my townreads is wrong?

I was afraid it was.

VOTE: Notsci

srsvote

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Vote: Secret Tunnel even

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I'd much prefer to gripe about touhou and make hydra jokes, myself.

Any thoughts about the game?

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I found ns's opening a little stilted but i don't know what happened on this page for you

-b

Let us dance.

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thanks good talk

-b

Let spayhalf be. Engage me on Plusjoyed instead.

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i don't see anything else in the iso

That's the problem!

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VOTE: Secret Tunnel

I didn't expect you to make things worse in your next post.

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Also, achievement unlocked, third pagetop stolen. Time to start taking over the voteocunts, too.

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esp w/ tthat sample size

-b

I have my reasons to believe plus joyed had read the thread in its entirety before making those two posts.

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I have my reasons to believe plus joyed had read the thread in its entirety before making those two posts.

Is it really surprising that a newer player read the six-page thread full of experienced players who are familiar with each other and couldn't come up with anything?

Yep.

It's as much as what they chose to gripe about, as what they chose to not comment on.

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six-page thread full of experienced players who are familiar with each other

This is also a misrepersentation of the thread, there's plenty of content I'd expect a hyperactive town puppy to be barking at, even in the first few pages.

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I did meta-homework on players before the game started.

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I did meta-homework on players before the game started.

Two meta players for the price of one!

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I did meta-homework on players before the game started.

is this not-spay-head?

Indeed, Neuter-head is the one playing with Plus Joyed, who is being a minus right now.

Spayhead is off frolicking in the outfield alternating between weeping and swearing murder towards the general direction of all tunnels.

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I did meta-homework on players before the game started.

is this not-spay-head?

Good call!

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@morph why are you scumreading Secret Tunnel?
I do hope this is a not mafia impersonator.

There's a dance in progress here. My dance partner is currently pretending to be a wallflower.

I'll answer this later.

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I usually see this sort of "I can't find anything to comment on" manifest itself as "This meta circle stuff is so anoooooooying blah blah blah I can't get any reads woe is me" (I've certainly done that as scum) and that didn't happen here

I'm just not hugely swayed by "I can't find anything to comment on therefore I must fluff instead" that doesn't seem like something scum is more or less likely to do to me

-b

Fair. You don't have to join me on this one by any means.

Just watch as it develops?

I think plusjoyed mafia stonks are going up.

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However, I do agree with you that what he did choose to say felt a bit off. Can you elaborate on that?

No U.

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I mean, I didn't mention it before because I didn't find it significant, but there is a nonzero chance that 156 was an awkward scum attempt to avoid saying "Nothing."

Why wouldn't it be significant?

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Thats the secret part of tunnels, i guess.

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a bit off from the previous jokey tone

I don't want to belabor this but off as in just tonally different or off in that it looked like a push was being made?

-b

Tone. I tend to try to use individual posts or sequences as base for reads a lot. Thought I found something, but it was for naught.

There is a major factor between your alignment play that is present here. I hereby cordially invite you to be safe from elimination for a while. You are therefore invited to spay-half's day three meltdown.

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a bit off from the previous jokey tone

I don't want to belabor this but off as in just tonally different or off in that it looked like a push was being made?

-b

Tone. I tend to try to use individual posts or sequences as base for reads a lot. Thought I found something, but it was for naught.

There is a major factor between your alignment play that is present here. I hereby cordially invite you to be safe from elimination for a while. You are therefore invited to spay-half's day three meltdown.

This is a doubleplusgood read we have here.

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Yeah i mean it's very obvious that he's the other half of the notscience hydra. Hence why he quoted my post.

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I’m guessing that’s a rule? I wonder why.

It is technically game-related content and hiding the fact that it was posted as a slot in the game would be denying information that should be public. It's also just common courtesy.

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A sync has been achieved.

VOTE: Secret Tunnels

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We are with you in spirit

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VOTE: prism

Taking it this vote isn't random?

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I am a hyperactive town puppy.
Checks out.

And tbh, plus joyed was too in the last game I played with him too.
Very, very much so.

before was me when I was in one game. Rn im in 5 including this one. suffice to say im stretched a little thinner. I think in the future I'll only do 3 games at once.

and yes, I read the entire thread before and didn't really get anything except Bell town.

You made four fluff posts before declaring said townread. Why not open with it, if that was your initial take of the thread?

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Bell will probably sort himself over time with his playstyle

-innocentvillager

Imagine finding a fencepost on bell large enough to shove it up your arse.

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And my tunnel is no secret~!

But also, my townread of bell is independent of your slot being mafia.

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Why shouldn't I?

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I've got invites to hand out to day three. They're burning a hole in my pocket.

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Why did you think anyone would think they might be related? Feels overexplainy.

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That post was my equivalent of handing out the invite to bell. Sorry you are jealous of my shiny invites, but you can't have one!

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I guess my answer to that, PlusJoyed, is another question.

What is the goal of RVS?

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I guess my answer to that, PlusJoyed, is another question.

What is the goal of RVS?

imo
a brief phase of shit/fluff posting to get all of that silliness out followed by discussion of initial impressions to get the game started

Interesting.

You and I see RVS very differently, and as I was just telling spayhalf, I'm not sure that it's alignment indicative instead of play style indicative.

To me, RVS is a means to an end, and exiting it as quickly as possible is the primary goal. The best RVS is one that ends on the first page. You see it more as a way to "Get out the lulz" before srsposting begins.

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VOTE: prism

Taking it this vote isn't random?

if i were voting at random, i would have picked a more interesting target

a Prism vote doesn't look like an uninteresting target to us. We've discussed them en hydra a bit.

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Where's your other head?

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I can't in good faith say I have any thoughts so far. The votes on me are OK. I might as well throw some gas on the fire and see what happens.

Are you caught up?

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There's one vote on you.

I'm nonplussed that 12 pages haven't generated any thoughts.

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My hopes and dreams of prism being able to town it up have been dashed against the rocks of reality.

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Now we live in a world where I have to actually content-sort Prism... assuming content arrives.

I really don't see the game as of yet being toxic or very long, and so apathy seems a little pre-mature.

Come shine for me, Prism.

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Bulge is town

Vote on me is boring

My heart broke into a million pieces.

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Bulge is town

Vote on me is boring

50% is not a passing grade, either.

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You know it’s kinda hard to respond when you didn’t explain why you voted me

Only something about disagreeing with my townreads that have now grown to four!

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lolno the shakiest read of those four is muffin the other 3 I’m p confident

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Joyed you just played against scum bulge this is night and day

Is this the poor head that has to work on sundays?

Spayhalf wants a word, and then a dance, and then possibly a duel to the death, or to hang out in a hot tub with martinis. Pending dance result.

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You know it’s kinda hard to respond when you didn’t explain why you voted me

Only something about disagreeing with my townreads that have now grown to four!

Where's your paranoia?

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Mhm I work 9-10ish Sunday’s

I’m doing office work so I have a few

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I have good feels about bulge I didn’t get when he was scum

I’m vibing rn and I think candidly, the only one of my original pool you could argue I should be paranoid of is muffin. But I’ve also since mentioned if there’s one I’m less sure on it’s him

There are some huge things missing from your play, and paranoia or lack thereof about zmuffin is rather low on my list.

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And do tell, what’s missing?

Who left this changeling in the place of my notsci?

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notsci is scum and starting a pocket on town!bulge

It is certainly possible.

Morph's reads tend towards that direction at present.

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For lack of a better way to explain it, this games like the touhou upicks.

I’m finally in a comfortable playerlist for me and I’m loving it so it’s probably bleeding into my posting a bit

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As I just said scum me just tried super strong townreading bulge all game and got called on it. I wouldn’t try the same bad tactic twice.

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Did you or did you not do meta research prior to this game?

Go look at free love in Mayfair club and verify what I’m saying. You know I’m not that dumb to do the same strat twice.

I'm scumreading you because of your interaction with ME.

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Spayhalf knows not of this homework you speak of.

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What about it?

It was something from before the game when we were discussing townreads but I don’t even get where it started

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I’m so confused god damnit

Okay didn’t one of you say you did meta before the game? There’s a micro with scum me vs town bulge

I know Cabd read my newbie scum game that I actually was able to do things for but I did a lot more strongarming and wifom spinning than I have here.

I can't tell what part of this is addressed to me, spayhalf.

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yeah but would that pocket actually work on town!bulge?
Also after mulling it over I think I'm gonna townbin Bell until they perform a significant scumslip, makes it easier that way and I'm feeling confident in this read
peddit: no i don't like meta research unless I was in that game

If you're scum notsci into this player list.... you need to be planning several days ahead.

Trying to pocket a few players is really your only option.

That actually goes for quite a few players in this game.

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Plusjoyed be out here at Yomi 1

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Plusjoyed be out here at Yomi 1

what does this mean
I'd also like to hear your explanation on your notsci SR

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/7-spies-of-the-mind

Scumread deets are not my problemo, spayhalf's burden to bear.

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Ffery can you just tell me what it is because I really have no idea

There has been one defining thing about our interactions in games since I can remember. That has been your paranoia about me and confessions that you can't read me so you just hope scum-me doesn't take you into elo.

When was the last time we played together and you put out a set of townreads in the early game that didn't have some sort footnote about how you were going to play around me?

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I mean, obviously you can't get me and Cabd to read each other for you this time, but there are certainly other options in this game. GiF is scary-good at spotting scum me. zmuffin will probably recover from his awful read, assuming he's town.

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Is it you or him that disagrees with my townreads?

As of yet, spayhalf and I have yet to diverge on any of our reads in any major way.

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...why do you think I’m spending so much time engaging you over your scumread on me lol

I am paranoid, yes, but I’m more excited to get to play with you (and Bork, Cabd, giffy, muffin) that it’s kinda on the back burner at this point.

There WAS no engagement before I spoke my scumread out loud. Just an rvs vote you retracted the next page and a townreadlist that included zmuffin.

What gave you townfeels about zmuffin's posts?

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the yomi stuff was interesting but I don't think it comes into play here.
If bulge says notsci is pocketing, I'll return to it. If he doesn't think so, then notsci is telling the truth

Why are you not debating a world where this is theater?

Why are you discounting Mafia-notsci distancing mafia-bulge?

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I feel like you're also making the assumption that town players will correctly read each other as town in the case of T-T which is uh... nope.

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hes the first person who townread me

Idk he feels very relaxed and I hadn’t hated anything he’d posted. Maybe it is wishful thinking but the Confucius post reminded me of his going to the doctor line he used to pull as town

...it was straight out of the sample town role pm.

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My assumption is that you know what they are and me copy+pasting them here won't be helpful because no one will read them

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So which is it? You didn't read your own role pm, or you didn't get a town one?

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Notsci, I wasn't trying to set up a role pm gotcha. I feel gross that one may have happened.

I'm sorry. I'm not getting much in the way of town notes from this encounter.

I'm going to pull a Nacho and try to let you go about the day without dogging your every post. Maybe you'll change my mind.

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I must admit, this game is not doing a good job of making hydras look easy to play with.

This is on par with your entire iso.

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and I slay dragons

VOTE: April Ludgate

What a fake and forced interaction you’re creating.

I am an unslayable dragon.

VOTE: Remelia

OMGUS POWER

Let's collectively pretend you didn't make this post, and try again given the fifteen pages of content ITT for you to react to instead.

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This attempt at humor is as bland as your main's namesake when brewed without any honey or milk, FL.


The adults in the room are trying to sort slots. You are trying to make noise.

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I must admit, this game is not doing a good job of making hydras look easy to play with.

This is on par with your entire iso.

And my good friend Something Smart is also being discredited and chopped at for momentum.

@Something Smart - good sign for you being town here. Last time this happened we ended up catching scum, even if I was killed in the finals.

I'll thank you kindly to stay out of my line of inquiry.

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I am mildly amused.

It would be quite funny if this had been their opening 14 pages ago.

Sadly, it is now generating noise around our attempt to sort and or speak with and or brutally destory Something_Silly

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And for the record, I did want to draw scum here. I didn’t though.

yeah?

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I had a talk with bob3141 in another game scum mentality. He introduced me to the concept of give the town something to solve and it actually has worked on one game of mine so far.

I wanted the chance to show up big here.

Huh.
I on the other hand had fever dreams about rolling scum in a game where half the playerlist knew me after not having played for five years

-b

You and me both. Though two years on my part.

This is obviously fferypost.

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Cool.
Now start solving and maybe i’ll Town read you too.

It’s Day 1. To imply that a solve is at all what should be happening here and now is just not the way.

This is where reads start to develop, and I am currently getting a feel for the gamestate, the playerlist, and once I hyperanalyze everyone and the way they speak, the way they react to everyone, which I have already taken in, my analysis will come in.

This is an old school mindset of yours.

This is an alt, I’ve also played off site, I’ve had weekly face to face, sometimes daily, mafia groups, I’m a large theme mod.

So I am here right now to help everyone who doesn’t know me learn the way that I am and help them be able to better read me.

Would you like to start by looking over s_s's iso?

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I'll thank you kindly to stay out of my line of inquiry.

What are you inquiring about?

I'd like to see your thoughts about the gamestate.

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Yes, but since we are speaking in the hypotheticals, I'd prefer not to elaborate on potential things that could be divined from a tone shift. Hopefully this comes into play for real sometime this game

eh i'm done here but i didn't get as much as i wanted to from it. gun to my head this comes from town

-b

You are so late to that party.

But makeup exam credit noted.

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Instant town read because of the pressure on him when I showed up because it’s exactly what happened when I played a game with him with older players earlier in the year.

For the record, I don't really feel like there's pressure on me per se. It's more just that I haven't contributed anything yet, and people see that as a less-than-ideal state of affairs.

I felt it like you did post a few times and people didn’t like your “voice”, and went after you.

I confirmed that to myself when i entered today and the same thing happened to me with them coming after me for a second.

I’m just louder and more abrasive than you so they didn’t come after me fully.

Which is also interesting to note.

For what it’s worth, I fuck with Remelia, Morph, and Bell already on a player level, I just don’t think all three of them are town.

Mostly, you're hyperposting and doing what you claim we've been doing: trying to control the conversations. I can either engage you, try to read you, and work with you if you're town.

Or I can go on about my business in this game and ignore you for a while.

It's not entirely my choice. It's not entirely yours.

For now, the balls in your court, though!

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I'd like to see your thoughts about the gamestate.

Do you mean the gamestate as in the overall trends and major activities of the game? Because it's a pretty unremarkable early game right now.

If you just wanted to hear my thoughts on the game, I don't have any yet that I haven't shared, but I can reread and look for some if you would like.

I'll take anything that helps me see how you're processing this game. Right now, I have what appear to be a few low-key snipes, against the grain comments, and what appears to be some active dislike for the hydrae in the game.

The last time I played with you, you were in a hydra. That was a couple years ago and it seems that your playstyle has changed a little. You're closer to in-the-moment in this game that I remember from that one. And you're a little less heart-on-sleeve earnest looking than you were in the loooooong ago game I modded that you played.

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We also played in Board Game uPick: Expansion, where you faked a guilty on RC. I was town and not in a hydra then; I believe it was a little after the all-hydra scum game. I don't remember what my playstyle was like in that game, I think it was at least a bit different because I remember having multiple confident scumreads and that doesn't sound like modern me

Ohhh that game, in which I violated my most strongly held mafia scruple in the name of my partner's god-tier scumread.

Yeah, you were there, and iirc I had you as town from early on.

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I guess I should assume you have no context on the past playstyles, plusJoyed. Let me very briefly fill you in so you can follow along.

To be clear, if you made a Venn diagram of the games both heads of this hydra (Cabd and Fferyllt) have played that included in some form at least one of Notscience, Borkjerfkin, Guy In Freezer, ZmuffinMan, Innocent Villiager, Prism, Bulge, and maria? It would likely be a single circle.


We have tens of games with each other, and Meta is playing an outsized role in some of our interactions.

[morph the cat]

You're welcome to leave it or that, or have me elaborate, depending on how much reading of older games you feel like torturing yourself with.

[morph the cat]

I'll take anything that helps me see how you're processing this game.

And re: this... well, like I said, nothing stuck out to me yet. I can go back and read, but I feel like there's been a lot of noise and it would be hard to find something. Better would be if you could select a specific issue you either have an opinion on, or think I might have an opinion on, and we can discuss that issue relatively in-depth.

How about Prism? What do you think of their play so far?

Have you played much with them? My experience with them is as a mod in two towngames.

[morph the cat]

My solve is in Canada. She's too nervous to take any pictures, but she's definitely my real girlfriend.

[morph the cat]

You're welcome to leave it or that, or have me elaborate, depending on how much reading of older games you feel like torturing yourself with.

i don't understand so i'll leave that

I mean that we're using reads and tells that are player-specific built up over the past 8 years or so.

For example, this game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=37614

You'll note several names that are in this game, were in that game.

[morph the cat]

Remelia, SS, Morph, Bell, Plusjoyed, all town.

I would love to live in this world. Sadly, I have reservations, and not just on the one you are defending.

[morph the cat]

Remelia, SS, Morph, Bell, Plusjoyed, all town.

I would love to live in this world. Sadly, I have reservations, and not just on the one you are defending.

I like the idea of seeing scum play in a gamestate where that is presumed the case. Does this make sense?

Sure. But in that case, it's almost certainly Muffin and two others. And that would break my heart. We'd probably win, but it'd break my heart. In like... 49 different fractures.

[morph the cat]

I would love nothing more than to have this be anon dancegame again, and everyone talking is ubertown.

But that's a little too wishful on the thinking scale.

[morph the cat]

Where’s alisae?

Cut them some slack. It's incredibly hard to plan your entrance into the main thread when several slots you fear drew town and you didn't.

Especially when there's other posts onsite to make that are less fraught with danger at every turn.

[morph the cat]

So I've had thoughts since Page 13 but wanted to give more time to see if I could get some more votes on me for reaction. 6 more pages and more than half the playerlist, it looks like this won't happen unless I just want to AFK even now that I have things to say. Kind of disappointing but there's a limit to how self-indulgent I can be. My thinking was that if I'm not going to be useful any other way, I might as well just see what happens if I played openly dismissive. Of the playerlist, I've only played with FL and I barely noticed him either time, meaning I couldn't really open the way I like to. I was really disappointed Morph didn't tag onto the vote given their previous interest, then realized they apparently want to sync their vote, but then still didn't swing it even when the other came around so alas.

Both Bulge and Ffery misinterpreted those posts, by the way. I was never bored/apathetic of the game. I was extremely interested and eager to see what would result.

I wonder.

framing this boredom as a reaction test doesn't make it any less scummy

I don't think it's fair to SR prism yet, you look like your just looking for an easy target here without explaining your process much
UNVOTE:
VOTE: bulge

I really didn't like this. There's a really clear town incentive to pressure players-even easy targets. Why is this scummy from Bulge?

Joyed is probably town too so make it five

? Timing on this really confuses me. You just took issue with two different reads/reactions of theirs in #303. This slot feels town because of the off the cuff/immediate response style but I'm having a hard time coming to terms with the reads: I did like that they immediately elaborated on 310 in 311. I also liked the response in 337

P-Edit: Good fucking lord the pace of this game is insane

What vote did you want us to tag on to?

Cabd knows he can move our vote wherever he wishes. My mental vote will be on Secret Tunnels until I see something more troubling in the game than they are.

[morph the cat]

Like I said, it's Yomi level 1 - surface level up in here.

[morph the cat]

So I've had thoughts since Page 13 but wanted to give more time to see if I could get some more votes on me for reaction. 6 more pages and more than half the playerlist, it looks like this won't happen unless I just want to AFK even now that I have things to say. Kind of disappointing but there's a limit to how self-indulgent I can be. My thinking was that if I'm not going to be useful any other way, I might as well just see what happens if I played openly dismissive. Of the playerlist, I've only played with FL and I barely noticed him either time, meaning I couldn't really open the way I like to. I was really disappointed Morph didn't tag onto the vote given their previous interest, then realized they apparently want to sync their vote, but then still didn't swing it even when the other came around so alas.

Both Bulge and Ffery misinterpreted those posts, by the way. I was never bored/apathetic of the game. I was extremely interested and eager to see what would result.

I wonder.

framing this boredom as a reaction test doesn't make it any less scummy

I don't think it's fair to SR prism yet, you look like your just looking for an easy target here without explaining your process much
UNVOTE:
VOTE: bulge

I really didn't like this. There's a really clear town incentive to pressure players-even easy targets. Why is this scummy from Bulge?

Joyed is probably town too so make it five

? Timing on this really confuses me. You just took issue with two different reads/reactions of theirs in #303. This slot feels town because of the off the cuff/immediate response style but I'm having a hard time coming to terms with the reads: I did like that they immediately elaborated on 310 in 311. I also liked the response in 337

P-Edit: Good fucking lord the pace of this game is insane

What vote did you want us to tag on to?

Cabd knows he can move our vote wherever he wishes. My mental vote will be on Secret Tunnels until I see something more troubling in the game than they are.

Assuming Prism meant that we didn't vote her makes her sad.

But that wasn't going to happen, notsci is the fish to fry before anything else at that point in the game. You're a side dish at best.

[morph the cat]

Where’s alisae?

Cut them some slack. It's incredibly hard to plan your entrance into the main thread when several slots you fear drew town and you didn't.

Especially when there's other posts onsite to make that are less fraught with danger at every turn.

The real reason they're afraid is because I'm holding them hostage to release those Scumsman PTs, I'm not giving up on this

P-Edit: Me

I had hoped fakegod would end up in the player list (he might as a replacement) so I could votepark on him until he tells me who the hell was playing as guy the third in dancegame. Alas, we exist in this reality and not that one.

[morph the cat]

Where’s alisae?

Cut them some slack. It's incredibly hard to plan your entrance into the main thread when several slots you fear drew town and you didn't.

Especially when there's other posts onsite to make that are less fraught with danger at every turn.

The real reason they're afraid is because I'm holding them hostage to release those Scumsman PTs, I'm not giving up on this

P-Edit: Me

Also, Alisae's most recent site check in is concurrent with page 16 of this game....

[morph the cat]

So when are you going to explain this notsci scumread? Not seeing it

Was this at us?

It was explained in our ISO but it's extremely meta based.

[morph the cat]

How about Prism? What do you think of their play so far?

Have you played much with them? My experience with them is as a mod in two towngames.

Prism's comment about having no thoughts on the game is a towntell that I like to use. But, this seems like the kind of game where that would be an easy thing to do as scum who's not part of the meta circle, so I'm hesitant to assign townpoints to it. (And I'm not really sure how much of a towntell it actually is, though I have seen it be right in the past.)

Other than that Prism seems pretty unwilling to do anything at all to avoid pressure. I would suspect that that's just a Prism MO, but it's possibly a towntell.

I haven't played with Prism, discounting a game that was abandoned immediately after I replaced into it. I modded a game where they had a deadbeat scumteam and pulled off an extremely impressive scum win (in what was probably a somewhat townsided setup). I don't recall exactly why they got so townread but I think it had to do with faking really genuine-looking actions such as a self-vote. So that's probably a good sign since they seem the polar opposite of that here, but it was a long time ago.

My impression of their townplay in the games I modded was that they were intense, focused and passionate about getting things right.

That kind of intensity does seem to burn off with a few years' play.

I'm not scumreading them. I'm just a little disappointed atm.

[morph the cat]

Ffery can you just tell me what it is because I really have no idea

There has been one defining thing about our interactions in games since I can remember. That has been your paranoia about me and confessions that you can't read me so you just hope scum-me doesn't take you into elo.

When was the last time we played together and you put out a set of townreads in the early game that didn't have some sort footnote about how you were going to play around me?

This post and the one directly after it, midway.

[morph the cat]

Where’s alisae?

Cut them some slack. It's incredibly hard to plan your entrance into the main thread when several slots you fear drew town and you didn't.

Especially when there's other posts onsite to make that are less fraught with danger at every turn.

The real reason they're afraid is because I'm holding them hostage to release those Scumsman PTs, I'm not giving up on this

P-Edit: Me

Also, Alisae's most recent site check in is concurrent with page 16 of this game....

To be fair, that’s 16 pages of games e’d have to catch up on, and e does a lot of non game related things on site. I’m willing to wait for them before really pushing them.

The sarcasm tags not being visible doesn't make them any less presently real.

[morph the cat]

I don't think my 454 comes close to answering your (Bell's) questions without really committing myself to more than I feel in reality.

I do want to challenge the morph townread. Taking a strong scum presence is likely to be extremely important this game-you can't just sit on the backfoot. Ffery might legitimately be excited to get to play with me, but the motivational "Shine!" stuff feels a bit off to me. I definitely started off a bit more confident in Dystopia but the focused, obsessive play came much later. In Midscummer Night's Dream it never really happened at all, though it's hard to separate mine and nancy's effort because we didn't really sign. I can see why they probably liked my Dystopia play, but honestly that game is more vivid to me because I

singlehandedly lost my team the game

with my intensity.

Do they actually want me to shine or are they just saying it? I don't really know. I think the pressure for content is okay but perhaps overwrought.

Prism, I want to play with that person. You were impressive despite the loss. You went up against scum-Jingle in an anonymous alt, which I wouldn't wish on anyone, and you came that little bit short mostly due to a town that flaked way more than you deserved.

Though modding that game did help me eventually see scum-Jingle in a different anonymous alt in an anon game I played a few weeks later. Mostly because the play was identifiable Jingle as well as scum-Jingle after having a ringside seat for a few weeks.

[morph the cat]

i feel like i'll get some town reads for saying fferycabd is my strongest scum read so far

going against the grain usually makes people town-read you i think?

I told cabd that not townreading me when you came back would be a scumclaim.

[morph the cat]

Good to see you once more, lady the first.

Would you like to renew your hemlock society membership?

[morph the cat]

I actually have Morph as my strongest town read right now

This isn't where I thought events were building up to.

Not that I'm particularly upset about it, mind you.

I was just expecting a spicier take.

[morph the cat]

I'm still really curious about these morph townreads.

Which ones?

[morph the cat]

who is ffery?

Morph the Cat is a hydra of two players:

Cabd and Fferyllt.

[morph the cat]

I actually have Morph as my strongest town read right now

This isn't where I thought events were building up to.

Not that I'm particularly upset about it, mind you.

I was just expecting a spicier take.

Also insert trajectory joke here.

[morph the cat]

I told cabd that not townreading me when you came back would be a scumclaim.

have you done anything town?

I have an entire iso for you to peruse.

[morph the cat]

I'm curious if people find Morph/Muffin inrteractions as weird as I do.

Are you thinking s/s or what

I am townreading morph and they proved my townread of muffin was bad so idk if it makes sense as s/s

Your circa 2014-15 description of me-scum is a knife in the heart of my scum game.

I'm a little surprised it's not here in this post.

:/

[morph the cat]

i don't see anything town in it so far

i'm at p15 now. do you start being town later?

You don't need any more pages.

Gawd this is awful. When I feel you're town you inspire such trust that I don't even take it personally that you scumread me, because I trust that your overall take on the game will be excellent.

This is not that.

[morph the cat]

You don't need any more pages.

oh, good!

what are your current reads? (don't care about whether you've S Y N C E D on them)

The reads we're interested in sharing atm are in that iso I commended to you.

[morph the cat]

do a consolidated list please, you're all about effort in this game, shouldn't be too hard

also out of interest, why did you think i would scum read you if i were scum?

We already have one in our four hundred page notes pt

You just haven't earned it yet~

[morph the cat]

Now you know how it feels. Go drown in them.

[morph the cat]

do a consolidated list please, you're all about effort in this game, shouldn't be too hard

Effort? Nah. Joy and excitement at playing again, and having so many great friends in the playerlist in which I return.

also out of interest, why did you think i would scum read you if i were scum?

It's not so much that I thought scum-you would, as I thought that in this game the sheer burning happiness at getting a town role pm after days of fearful anticipation would be readily apparent to town-you.

That's the stuff that town-notsci used to spot easily, even if he didn't always trust he'd gotten it right.

[morph the cat]

Okay Morph I know muffin is smelly but what I asked for the reads list so it helps me get in the game?

I'd probably link you the posts in the iso that we made statements about our reads for you, lady the first.

Is this you actually asking?

[morph the cat]

he’s good at being scum

He is good at playing both alignments. That's not really the question you need to ask yourself, assume he is.

[morph the cat]

let's put it this way, i don't believe any answer that was given to that question was going to really tell them anything about something_smart and i don't think they actually thought it would so it just looks like they felt compelled to question something without even thinking about why it matters

How does it feel being so wrong AND late to the party at the same time? There was a very clear reason why I (spayhalf) posted that question. Your lack of vision does not make a lack of intent on my part!

[morph the cat]

oh, the initial reach outs to me also felt pretty forced, like i dunno what that was about, but again, i was chalking this up to *maybe* just being giddy about the player list

I wrote an entire damn RVS opened for you... I had a fucking flowchart and everything, but then nacho was a lazy bum and didn't get us results until much later. That's why I wanted to reach out.

[morph the cat]

Seriously, Nacho launching the game super late derailed my entire awesome plan.

1: Propose to muffin that we all massclaim
2: Muffin goes first
3: We decide it's a bad idea after muffin claims
4: We policy muffin for anti-town claiming
5: ???
6: Town wins (Unless we're mafia then mafia wins)

[morph the cat]

Jesus. I go off to work on comprehensible reads list and look at this shit.

[morph the cat]

MFW every single muffin post he dislikes is from my half.

Oh well!~

[morph the cat]

too lazy to read for context, whodis?

90% of the posts he dislikes are cabdhalf. Aka neuter half.

[morph the cat]

i don't think you've overcome your ability to hate your existence in any game you're scum

mostly because i was talking to fakegod about some game he ran recently where kuribo called you scum from d1 and i read part of it as a result

This is factually incorrect as of his most recent newbie.

[morph the cat]

oh right, you called noddy scum after 154 specifically

and then later tried to justify it with "something is missing" and not being paranoid about you rofl

i initially thought it had something to do with my name being in that list, but you later said it wasn't

It's amazing that you've played a few games with me and notsci and not noticed how he reads me and how I read him. I'm trying to put my head around the possibility that it's a channel of data that you just don't pay attention to because in your mafia calculus it's not alignment indicative stuff or something. From that interview we did a while back I definitely learned some differences in how we approach the game. In general I think you're approach is better. I wish it was stuff I could weld onto my game.

I don't remember saying that you being on the list was not part of the problem. In fact I remember saying that you being on the list and me not being in that post even as a footnote (which is usually how I appear in early notsci reads) was part of the problem because he expresses paranoia about us both. But the main part of the problem was STUFF THAT WAS MISSING in his early play with respect to me.

And no, I'm not townreading him. I think you understand exactly what I meant in my reference to Nacho's treatment of scumreads, and so you know that my read hadn't softened at all.

It freaks me out a little that he's defending me to you.

[morph the cat]

There are some huge things missing from your play, and paranoia or lack thereof about zmuffin is rather low on my list.

this is what you wrote

and doesn't explain how knowing #154 was a noddy post resulted in a scum read

That's because the context of 154 is from earlier posts.

Notsci rvs-voted me.

I joked back at him a la Mini 1699 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=62686

He changed his vote, with no actual acknowledgement of my bussing comment.

And then he put out a readslist where he says absolutely nothing about me.

That game's a decent roadmap of what our town-town interactions have evolved into. None of that showed up here. No response to my rvs reaction, no asking for reactions to his reads. none of the banter we usually put into sizing each other up, despite my immediate reach-out.

I'm putting a lot of effort into replying to you right now because I would hate to get a bad read of you much more than I'd hate it if this is town you getting a bad read on me.

[morph the cat]

i'm reading your posts, i just don't really care about your read on me lol

I care that I get it right.

@bork "this shit" was specifically about seeing a vote on zmuffin, and seeing that there was a sudden (to me, who had my head buried in a partial reads list) shift of suspicion in bell's direction.

I don't like anything about where this game is currently headed.

[morph the cat]

oh and bell's read change on midwaybear.

not happy about that either.

[morph the cat]

ffery.

[morph the cat]

This recent stuff is spayhalf. I've got a one year old that is about to wake up and is quite irate at the lack of food presently in her belly.

[morph the cat]

I kind of assumed that was at least partially directed to me, hence the question.

I assume you think I am off base?

-b

p-edit: are both your heads posting atm because i am getting some mixed signals

Cabd had to drop out a few minutes ago to go tend a game he's modding.

I really need to do the same, but I want some clear air here first.

As to off base, it's more just wanting to argue this out with zmuffin without players taking sides midway through.

Though I'm starting to accept that I'm not breaking through the brick wall, and I kinda want to go back 4-5 pages and see what the hell happened to kick off reactions to bell and midwaybear.

[morph the cat]

That’s my meta shift bell

You saw how I was re bulge?

There’s 4/5 slots this game that I feel similarly on. It’s easier when I’m less familiar with people

Yeah, but why would you try to jerk me toward that recollection if that recollection is no longer accurate/wasn’t accurate last game?

My point was think how I was with bulge. Now there’s five of them.

I kinda expected you to have things to say about 656.

[morph the cat]

As to off base, it's more just wanting to argue this out with zmuffin without players taking sides midway through.

I get that and am largely staying out of it for the moment

-b

As to off base, it's more just wanting to argue this out with zmuffin without players taking sides midway through.

I get that and am largely staying out of it for the moment

-b

I will back off and let you two hash it out.
In regards to muffin and FF.

Looks like it's done for now. I don't want to lose sight of the whole game, especially today. And I do want to get my thoughts into a concise form for Maria, because Gent 6 is fond of Lady 1.

[morph the cat]

Driving home now posting from computer when I get there

All the cool Gentlemen use voice to text while driving. (Don't actually do this, you'll die)

[morph the cat]

Where’s alisae?

Cut them some slack. It's incredibly hard to plan your entrance into the main thread when several slots you fear drew town and you didn't.

Especially when there's other posts onsite to make that are less fraught with danger at every turn.

This has gotten a little more concerning given the elapsed time.

[morph the cat]

Strongest town read

Town pings and why.

Any scum reads? Why?

Go.

1. Morph.
2. Maybe S_S he’s different. He’s coming off as honest in his last biggish post. midwaybear initial post. After that back slide.
3. Nope.

Sorry, I don’t really see the point.

Update:
Scum read: midwaybear.

Bell, is this the basis for your read change on midway?

[morph the cat]

Looks like it's done for now. I don't want to lose sight of the whole game, especially today. And I do want to get my thoughts into a concise form for Maria, because Gent 6 is fond of Lady 1.

having trouble picking out what your read on muffin is after all that, esp considering 668

-b

readus interruptus.

when I know what my read is, I'll let you know.

I typed some shit up about encounters with scum-zmuffin I was going to post here, but it's useless garbage as far as developing a read on zmuffin in this game is concerned.

[morph the cat]

Strongest town read

Town pings and why.

Any scum reads? Why?

Go.

1. Morph.
2. Maybe S_S he’s different. He’s coming off as honest in his last biggish post. midwaybear initial post. After that back slide.
3. Nope.

Sorry, I don’t really see the point.

Update:
Scum read: midwaybear.

Bell, is this the basis for your read change on midway?

From town to null, yup.

I declined to give zmuffin some reads earlier. How did you read that interaction? What makes midway's decline different (assuming it is different)?

[morph the cat]

I’m not. Which is why it’s a null and not a scumbbq.

you called it a scumread?

[morph the cat]

if you are so aware of previous encounters with scum-me, that makes me more interested in knowing why you thought i'd call you scum this game if i were scum

because, like, it'd be pretty easy for me to just agree with general consensus about you and ignore you if i'm scum rofl

or serenade you with compliments so you ignore me

on the other hand, i don't understand what gave you the impression that i'd think you're town if i'm town? because that's clearly not meta-based, even ignoring the fact that we're both coming back from like a 2-year hiatus

The scumclaim post was about 30% joke and 70% wanting to see how you would react. This post I'm responding to is more in the line of what I expected from you.

My expectations are not so much meta-based as they are how I've interpreted your scumreads in the past. And how you've expressed them. This is way more of push than you've ever sent my way (even that one time when I actually was scum). When you've scumread me, it was desultory and you had bigger fish to fry in the moment. And we eventually got pretty right with each other. I'd like to trust that will happen again, but the ridicule and shutting me down is new. I've seen it directed at others and I've understood why you thought they were being stupid, or scum, or stupid scum. So my conclusion should be?

I want to get current on the stuff that surprised me to read the last few pages. I've gone back 20 pages to try and figure out wtf happened to this game and it's going to be a while before I'm completely back in the present.

Your "lol scumreading notsci" shit is not helping me sort him. I haven't written him off and I hope there's something in the next few pages that will make sense of how he's approached me so far. I've given you both a roadmap of why such an early post clanged for me. He needs to explain where his head was at.

[morph the cat]

That's because the context of 154 is from earlier posts.

Notsci rvs-voted me.

I joked back at him a la Mini 1699 viewtopic.php?f=53&t=62686

He changed his vote, with no actual acknowledgement of my bussing comment.

And then he put out a readslist where he says absolutely nothing about me.

That game's a decent roadmap of what our town-town interactions have evolved into. None of that showed up here. No response to my rvs reaction, no asking for reactions to his reads. none of the banter we usually put into sizing each other up, despite my immediate reach-out.

I'm putting a lot of effort into replying to you right now because I would hate to get a bad read of you much more than I'd hate it if this is town you getting a bad read on me.

I am halfway through a glass of wine but I am here now

I think its a little unfair to be expecting that level of interaction when we havent played in so long. As I said before (and even in the queue) I was excited to play with everyone!

Mala actually called me out before I started doing my tunneling in 2148 and I broke it and sat back and actually got a townread on her while sitting back and not engaging super hard. I suppose you can ask bulge if our engagements in game have felt different since before too?

(unrelated- I also looked in that game for unrelated reasons and my favorite us interaction was at the start of D2/3 where we were agreeing that if nacho and pie were scum they would be strongarming their way through the game. And they proceeded to do that.)

That was one of the games I read leading up to deciding to play again. I basically froze in elo of that game and losing in that way was why I decided to take my first hiatus. I needed to get away from games for a while and see if I could come back and play with some degree of conviction again.

My favorite moment in a game we shared involved a bear. I reread it last month, too.

So, yeah, I have some pretty reinforced expectations of how we'd interact in our first game back. This wasn't it.

I don't get why you didn't react at all to my bussing post.

[morph the cat]

is there a reason you're being secretive about what your current reads are (in full), fferycabd?

There is.

[morph the cat]

This thread needs a focal reset.

I'm not sure that there's much to be done about it, though. We're still missing Alisae in a pretty major way, and that's kind of bringing me down :~(

[morph the cat]

Yes?

Tammy made one for every slot, it's a thing that has been discussed recently on discord with a bunch of us old timers as a way to replace PMs for convenience AND amusement.

[morph the cat]

They were made before alignments were rolled!
Spayhalf and I told tammycho a story. It was a very sad one, they cried.

[morph the cat]

Somebody set up us the town

Bell - the easy, almost free-association posting at the start of the game felt really town to both of us. Followed by an insane number of "thinking what we're thinking when we're thinking it" moments. Like more than I've ever run into with an unknown player before. When he gets down into the reasoning behind those moments, we find that reasoning solid and consistent.

midwaybear - this is primarily a meta dive read and we're not interested in giving him a roadmap of the differences in his town and scum play. Subtracting that stuff out, the things that stand out are the in-the-moment nitpickiness, grabbing at strings and yanking them to see where they go.

Are you a bad enough dude to town read the president?

The Bulge- This read is almost strong enough to go into the next tier up, but we need to see more from him. It's similar to our Bell read, but not as frequent posting has meant a lot fewer "thinking what we're thinking" moments, but the few we've seen were salient, and near instantaneous with our own reactions. Ffery is aware that this kind of read doesn't always pan out, but she still likes them when they happen

PlusJoy - This read took a lot of questioning to understand his approach to mafia. Given that approach his play is pretty consistent and understandable.

Your townread might be in another castle

something_smart - He's moved up considerably for ffery from when we were poking at him earlier in the game. she really likes that he asked for a point of discussion, and that since that interaction he's been more stuck in the game, if that makes sense

Prism - Ffery did some hard-buddying, and she likes the echoes of cautious wtf that she got back. Need a better understanding of how they're processing the game.

I wish to high hell that we could townread these players but we can't yet

Giffybork- GiF was hitting the tonal stuff beautifully while he was here this morning, but there was no hard analytical edge or squinty eyes in ffery's direction and that worries her a little. Yeah we were all still having fun, but there was stuff to react to and it didn't happen. Bork in a lot of ways is oozing town. ffery is grumpy about lines of questioning getting tromped (not just at bork) and knows she shouldn't be taking it personally but she is. On pure objective grounds Remilia should be higher. ffery has liked bork's recent questions, especially his trying to nail us down on a zmuffin read. that's classic townbork and the beauty of it is that he doesn't really show his hand in terms of using that info to form a read of us. ffery's always surprised to find out she was being weighed in the balance. It's less surprising when she's doing some weighing herself.

Muffin - We're not going to try to read here yet. Cooldown needs to happen because ffery is all over the place about zmuffin's push.

Tunneling the Tunnel

Secret Tunnels - not townreading here. it's probably not fair to expect our games to pick up right where they left off, but that's where ffery is at. If you guys are town it's going to take a different way of processing your play for me to see it.

Leftovers for dinner

The rest of you lot. Special shout out to Alisae for avoiding game thread or something. Maria's fate will be tied to mine yet again this game, so sorting her is a whenever sort of thing.

[morph the cat]

Wasn’t one of you calling my reads on those four wrong earlier too?

I agree re S_S. I don’t really remember prisms posting so I need to revisit it.

Neuterhalf called your muffin read ass. It was one of three.

[morph the cat]

Even if we aren’t working together you realize you guys have come to the same strongest townreads I have, right.

But flip their levels of strength for me(bulge joyed over the other two)

No I didn't realize that. I'm still trying to get my head into the current gamestate. I have never gotten so out of phase with a game in my life as I have the last few hours. I haven't seen anything at all I dislike so far from Bulge, and I see that he's posted a lot more since the read formed. My main hold back was just needing to have a better feel for where his head is in the game. I think the info is there now, but I haven't absorbed it all yet.

[morph the cat]

Bulge is town

Vote on me is boring

50% is not a passing grade, either.

Vote on you is extremely NOT boring!

[morph the cat]

Ohhhhhh I thought you were saying of the four reads you disagreed with two

Let's start with this. Why are you townreading us?

[morph the cat]

Regarding our readslist, I think the data is here in the thread to get more solid on the Bulge. I can't be in the moment and in catchup mode simultaneously, and in the moment is shinier right now.

[morph the cat]

I liked fferys interactions with me and I think it makes sense to be confused why the interactions not the same even if I do think it’s a bit of an over expectation. I don’t think your play this game would hinge on pocketing someone just as likely to be overly paranoid of you by making me work for my townread

I also don’t think you had to back off when you did?

But I can also see bulges and muffins POV and they are on the outside lookin in so that’s kinda irking me a little bit

I absolutely didn't have to back off. I meant what I said.

Do you have thoughts on the players we've left off our reads list for now?

[morph the cat]

Maria's different in what way?

[morph the cat]

Pretty sure I've only played with her as a hydra. Cabd has at least one game with her, but the only one I know about was a secret alt game. She claims to play differently as a hydra. Was that a game on her main account?

[morph the cat]

I'm probably crashing soon.

I'm out of questions for now. Thanks for taking the time tonight.

[morph the cat]

Unvote

- sync

The Secret Tunnels dial hasn't swung all the way to town. I'm starting to think we'll get there.

@PlusJoyed my 3 am brain was, without actually looking at the thread, thinking very similar thoughts about a fairly wide swath of game stuff that zmuffin hasn't posted about, while spending most of his time negging us.

Bork you want to talk about how terrible our read of you and GiF is?

Back to rereading.

[morph the cat]

The Remilia hydra. I'll try to include hydra names going forward!

[morph the cat]

I was in my bed all day yesterday due to sick and I prob should stay in bed resting more but I'm sure y'all missed my pretty self.
So what's up fellas

Help I think muffin is evil.

Please stick him inside your fridge.

[morph the cat]

Also, if you can catch up thoughts on Secret Tunnels?

[morph the cat]

Oh I haven't read yet I think I need to read like 25 pages which is orz

I will have a gold star AND a lollipop ready at the end for being a really good gif.

[morph the cat]

I need easy reads so my amount of work done looks inflated.

You see, I have this secret tell that has pretty decent amount of accuracy even without me reading all those pages.
I'm going to use this secret tell and call morph and Bell town for until at least Day 3.

You're scaring me. </3

[morph the cat]

You're down to gold on the outside, but it's actually cheaper metal on the inside star.

[morph the cat]

I'll give you 10 points if you figure out my secret tell though.

In a world where I know your secret tell, to NOT save it and then have you mis-apply it when I draw scum against you next would be silly!

[morph the cat]

yay i have the most points now?

Not even close buddy.


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[morph the cat]

I'll give you 10 points if you figure out my secret tell though.

That stopped being a good tell for me the first time I scum-hydra'd with nacho. I think you know that.

There's town all over my iso, but number of posts isn't it.