Mini 2221: Citizens For a Bright Future

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gamma and marci can you say what your roles are please?
we're an 'uninformed inventor': we have items we can give out each night that the recipient can use but don't know what they do

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heya gamma

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actually ffery is it possible for you to post the other scum role pms?

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also i just want to make it known that i think this is gonna be harder than perpetual elo if that's even possible

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hey marci!

and it's ok ffery you get to watch my descent into madness *twice* now

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hey i'm good, how are you?
and yeeeeesssss that's the plan

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happy to hear things are good :)

i kinda wanted to be town too >.<
but just try your best, and don't worry too much - trying and learning new things is how you get better!
and yeah luckily this will be open so we'll be able to talk throughout

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imma def destroy tho, i know what i gotta do to be better than last time and i will outlive!!

yeeeees this is the vibe
marci i love your energy you're so positive :)

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and uh they're kinda all difficult to play with / very strong players:
cabd - probably one of the strongest town players on site rn. he's uh prob gonna be our n1 kill i think
pooky - very strong player and also has really positive vibes :)
annie edison - cabd won't let us misflip them while he's alive i'm p sure. while a strong-ish player might be misflippable after cabd dies

i don't know who akrasia is
mary satome i know who she is but she's somewhat flippable i think. has strong reads but not charismatic and often comes off as ~prickly~ / ~standoffish~ enuf that i don't think she'll end up in townblocs
ceph is a decently strong player but in this pl probably gonna have to be a misflip target

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and yeah that's mena. me/mena are in that hydra nd i'm just lazy and haven't signed in yet

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can you guys share your role plz?

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oh i missed that. thanks ffery!

also as always your flavor is so great :)

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honestly town is kinda stacked :/
this is gonna be a tough game but we shall all try

not to toot our own horn too much are p strong at scum so hopefully that will help

honestly there might be a doctor but let's not overthink that too much. it looks like gamma has a strongman shot so we can always use that

also gamma's public suit-choosing role sounds super town (if i understand it correctly)

it sounds like you're almost a souped-up version of a tracker so i'm not sure if town will have one too

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ily already ur so nice

ty :oops:
i try :)

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The only effect the Card of the Day has is that any players who chose a card of that suit for one of their three cards AND who have an X-Shot night ability and use it that night will have the shot refunded.

for the purposes of this does our count as a x-shot ability?

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*does our role count

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ok so if i, say, give the puppy to pooky on a night where the wands are the suit of the day, does pooky still get the puppy? do we gte a second puppy to give out?

and related: does the recipient know what the item does?
like if i give it to pooky will *he* know what his new-found puppy companion does?

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A kill modification counts as use of an ability.

also what does this mean?

also can gamma, say, rb and strongman on the same nigth? or multitasking is just for personal action + nk

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we can't regenerate any of the strongaman, rb, or ninja >.>

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ok so if i, say, give the puppy to pooky on a night where the wands are the suit of the day, does pooky still get the puppy? do we gte a second puppy to give out?

and related: does the recipient know what the item does?
like if i give it to pooky will *he* know what his new-found puppy companion does?

@ffery/bell
not sure if you missed this or if you're not answering it on purpose lol

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ty!

oooooh does that mean we get to choose the new gift?

@gamma pick anything other than cups
@mena we're going to have to pretend to be confused start of day2 because we 'wont' know' how we got an action back
maybe we can coordinate that with gamma or something

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@ ffery plz dont accept that yet

@ gamma i think its an every day ability. Why dont u want to use it today?

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Fair, but why do u want to wait to use them?

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Sorry i'm not sure i follow the question.
Basically if a 2s doc uses their role that night, they'll still have that shot

I think that town-you would probably use it?

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Ok i gotta bounce for weekend vla but fwiw gamma i think you should definitely use it tonight (on one of the suits that matches the cards we have)

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Card 3: Eight of Pentacles - Grinding skills, becoming expert at something one is passionate about, persistence and patience.

Did we ecen pick this card? Lol

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marci asked me to let you know that she feel really, really bad she couldn't turn things around. She feels like she let you guys down.

Oh tell her not to worry abt it, i dont think there was much she could do <3

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Yeah who should we send our invention to?

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marci asked me to let you know that she feel really, really bad she couldn't turn things around. She feels like she let you guys down.

Oh tell her not to worry abt it, i dont think there was much she could do <3

Marci if you can still read this u totally should not feel this way, it was almost a lol-flip and i dont think there was anything to be done. I dont think what you did was particularly scummy or merited such a strong wagon on you, it was almost a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I hope we can play together again sometime soon (and for longer!)

Ffery if she isnt still in here can you send that along?

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plz do :)

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Card 3: Eight of Pentacles - Grinding skills, becoming expert at something one is passionate about, persistence and patience.

pentacles are the same suit as cups?

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*sorry i meant coins

1. Four of Swords
2. Six of Wands
3. Eight of Coins

Got it, thanks!

i'm trying to figure out where the pentacles came from because i don't remember picking it >.>

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ah thanks! yeah i think the deck you linked to in the game advertisement had coins, but the description of the pentacles card sounded similar to what i chose, and google tells me coins/pentacles are the same, but i wrote cups by mistake lol

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@gamma fyi we've also been hooded by cabd but like i'm not trying too hard since we're strongman killing him

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No worries! I was just a little confused because i was *pretty* sure (?) it wasnt a card that i picked lol

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He's a little sus of mena but overall doesnt have a read on our slot yet, you're suspicious merely foe not having posted (along with everyone else who hasnt posted)

Gonna see what i can get out of him overnight and selectively use that to push people tom since he's, like, dying

He doesnt seem to be considering the possibility of dying really tho

His biggest sr on wagon appears to be pooky

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He said like: ceph/luke/gamma are where he'd start flipping since they didnt post
And then went on abt suspecting pooky a bit

Which again *doesnt matter too much* since he's dying and wr can choose what to relate to the thread

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I think its more he townreads the active posters more
But again like he's dying so not too worried

But yeah kinda annoying

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give pooky a puppy

Unless mena you have something else you want to do instead

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give pooky a puppy

Unless mena you have something else you want to do instead

actually give akrasia the flask of sparkly purple liquid

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actually give pooky a puppy

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Yeah idk
Who vigs pooky there tho

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I'm very happy we called that bluff
I'm guessing he tried to get us to kill ourselves

Wouldve looked like a pgo if we had tried to kill him.
Smart fakeclaim honestly, cept it didnt work

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Wonder how much of the hood target was based on 'who do i think will try to perform the nk tonight'

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Maybe lucky for us in that sense that gamma drew strongman, if we had we would have killed ourself i think

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@ffery out of curiosity would cabd's redirecting role have worked on the nk? (I.e. would that have been redirected?) Or only like personal actions (i.e. the inventor)

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Eh lol this is a wash

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Wasnt really believing 'secret commune with the dead powers' at the end there but like it appears to be true and this is a wash
Lol

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Kinda fucked that up with that

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Yeah its a wash unfortunately,
Not much we can do here honestly

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Ugh i just dont feel motivated in these sorts of situations at all
Would rather if they just hammered tbh

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This may be unsporting of me, but i'm not entirely unopposed ... kinda hard to go through the motions when we all know how this is going to turn out

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I kinda want to
Mena?

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Was actually gonna tell gamma i dont mind if he concedes after we flip :shrug:

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I dont know, i dont think i did

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Well at very end of night he said his guess was us/you or us/ceph
And said he had a way to communicate that with town
But i kinda assumed that was a bluff, and kinda ignored it cuz i assimed he would like be dead shortly
But i guess not responding was the kicker

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I'm just gonna complain in here a bit because i'm very much not interested in having to go through the motions of pretending until they actially decide to flip us

I hate this part

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Ugh
I'll do the posting thing in a few hours after work
Just yeah

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Well at very end of night he said his guess was us/you or us/ceph
And said he had a way to communicate that with town
But i kinda assumed that was a bluff, and kinda ignored it cuz i assimed he would like be dead shortly
But i guess not responding was the kicker

I mean like i suppose by virtue of not responding to this but like we thought he was gonna die >.>

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And talking with the dead is not something one can reasonably anticipate or plan for

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T'was not a good rand for scum at all

Not to be super pessimistic or whatever but our chances of winning this from the rand were pretty low, and day1 +n1 kinda cemented that

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And talking with the dead is not something one can reasonably anticipate or plan for

@ffery fwiw i do feel like this is enuf of a deviation from standard game mechanics that the possibility of this happening should be advertised or made known before hand

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Not sure that *knowing* that would have changed all that much but like the littlw end of night fiasco i would have at least put more effort into mitigating

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Ugh

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Fair enuf
I will say that while i dont play a *ton* of themes all of the examples that i can think of in my time being on-site had that being like a feature of the setup (i.e. here is a 'nonstandard communication' theme game! Here's a game where the spirits can talk! or something along those lines)
I am not omniscent etc etc etc but this has been my experience

Idk usually as scum i approach things as 'get the troublesome players dead cuz once they're dead they cant do squat and what they think functionally doesnt matter' but that principle kinda gets violated via this sort of mechanism

Idk maybe this is a me-thing and it wouldnt bother other people as much
But it does to me sort of feel like a deviation from the game's fundementals in a way that acutely shortchanges scum, especially if they manage to remove the threat in the first place

And like obviously how it played out n1 is a sort of niche example and perhaps we could have mitigated what happened in that hood better, but at least from my pov i didnt, like, bother to since i kinda didnt think to worry abt dead voicing their thoughts after the fact

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I would prefer to keep it private, but ffery said she would prefer to publicize it
My redactions above

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Would also, there's a few more i'm on the fence abt

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Oh no i'm so sorry to hear :(
I hope you're doing ok
This isnt really a priority in comparisom to that

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plz redact 167 too and with that i'm fine to release