i was planning on voting N_M before the jester claim to one up himIn post 48, Alianna wrote:I was planning to CC the jester claim.
I even wrote the post out and PMed it to myself.
And then this turned out to be the one time that he didn't claim jester.
this is the scummiest of the Bella votes since the additional words alongside the vote make it look like scum trying to justify their vote out of fear of being sussed, esp. considering it was the 4th one
i like this response instead of outright answering the question. its weird and risks attracting attention from someone who just claimed "eternal game solver" so i think it more likely comes from townIn post 33, Somnus wrote:Hello. Please tell me why you would take that seriously and why it would have any less merit than any other RVS vote.
excuse me? you just voted enchant and still were at this point?In post 57, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I mean, it would definitely be your fault Enchant.
Agreed Somnus, hence why it seems a little less likely to be scum.
again this just doesnt sound real to me. its way too hyper analytical and looks like trying to make something out of nothing. which could be excused if we werent in RVS but now youre saying this a legitimate scumread and i dont believe you think that.In post 135, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I didn't initially like the first question to Gamma, although this was a minor thing.In post 61, Alianna wrote: Why did you find it scummy?
The second post just felt wordy for the sake of it. Clearly, I couldn't possibly have a good read on NM from his few posts but I was joking around that because NM is using words (as opposed to rainbow reads-lists or some shit) that it makes me think he is town when he is probably more likely to be scum using an appealing style (humour).
Then came the buzzword read of Ali being 'genuine' and the TMI read of Enchant claim being town as if Enchant couldn't just reverse that claim at any time claiming it was an RVS joke post or whatever.
PEdit - Frog had his Weetabix this morning. Come at me bro.
please explain furtherIn post 122, NorwegianboyEE wrote:BBT seems ok.In post 118, Ausuka wrote:I'd be interested to hear what other people think about him because I think I'm the only one who's really talked about him so far.
THIS. i didnt see this but THISSSSIn post 101, Ausuka wrote:Ali is there a reason you seem totally fine with BBT blatantly refusing to answer your questions and still expecting you to answer his?
because you can make something out of nothing towards literally any player. it looks to me like you didnt actually see something scum indicative but youre trying to make it look like you did in order to push someone. what ausuka said earlier about "playing aggressive to look townie" seems to fit you really well this game and i didn't get that vibe from you in either of the two town games we played together.In post 152, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Why is hyper-analytical scummy?
Why is making something out of nothing scummy in the early-game?
The scum read has developed due to legitimate reasons I have stated in thread. Did you read them?
Genuine is just that - a buzzword. A good word for scum to give as reasoning for a town read. What about Ali sounded genuine? Why does genuine = town and not genuine scum? Can scum not have genuine opinions?
i want to know why you think BBT is okayIn post 153, NorwegianboyEE wrote:What is there to explain about what i just said.
hi not underscore mafia. do you think alianna is mafia?In post 154, Not_Mafia wrote:Just an observation friendBut you're sheeping a lot
Seems very REactive and not PROactive
well.. yeah i did think it was you LOL. that's certainly something. i may have to reconsider.In post 179, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I can be BBT's scum partner. They're fun.In post 176, froggodoggo wrote:BBT is scum and i think i found a partner but not worth saying yet
its in my ISO. i sus you for your first vote and you have indeed been a sheepy sheep. i think somnus' reaction to norwee's question on an early page was townie. altho not a fan of norwee not pushing for a response. norwee can u tell me what thats about? 33 and 34In post 178, Alianna wrote:Mind elaborating on this?In post 176, froggodoggo wrote:slight SL on ali and slight TL on somnus. i was not aware yall had a history of not being town together but uh.... its not looking great
LOL are you asking me how to fake pushes as scum?In post 192, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:What would that look like? How would you expect me to present the info in a way that makes you think I believe in it. That sounds like a nonsense sentence.
do you think they are both town? care to explain why pls?In post 199, Not_Mafia wrote:Please my fellow townmatesIn post 87, Ausuka wrote:Well, a lot of your other posts like "WHAT IF THERE'S A REAL N5 COP" are strong contenders but I think that one's so vacuous and fake that yeah I would call it the worst.In post 82, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Oh, you think?
Even including your own posts? Damn, I find that hard to believe.Let's not fight like this
okay i get that. but that's not an easy question for me to answer. i guess i would expect you to ask more questions in your push rather than making rash assumptions. i think the former is more townie because townies dont actually know whether the person they are pushing is town or scum. the latter being an easy way for scum to tunnel people, like you're doing right now. if it wasnt d1 and there were flips to go off i could get it but it is d1 and there are no flips and so i dont believe you actually came to the conclusions you came to.In post 209, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Frog, I asked you how you expect that post to look from a town!BBT perspective to further understand why you scum read me.
oh, i saw one of you ask the other if we are "finally town together" and if youre scum obv that would not be the caseIn post 210, Alianna wrote:I was wondering more about your comment on my history with Somnus and how it played in there.
here i thought i was being ignored but hes just going thru the pages one by one
is this a meta thing? i really think you should try to read BBT.In post 217, Bellaphant wrote:You, I never want to sort day one.
r u saying that BBT is unreadable? how have you read them in the games where they were scum and u were town? i remember seeing one of thoseIn post 222, Bellaphant wrote:@frogs, me Ans bbt used to play together really well, but because they hate meta (or something) they do scumny shit as town and vice versa. Their tone also is aggressive no matter what and they aren't scares to produce content. However, since bbt and me have been back we've never been town together (maybe this time, I'll be lucky...etc )
I don't see it but this game has a surprising amount of posts compared to the other ones i've been in so it's hard for me to see every lil thing. Might have to reread tmrw and start freshIn post 239, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You disagree with my reasoning? You don't think Ausuka is showing self-awareness in a not-so-obvious-scummy-way?
somnus didnt really answer ur question and u didnt seem to mindIn post 240, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don't know what you mean.In post 195, froggodoggo wrote:i think somnus' reaction to norwee's question on an early page was townie. altho not a fan of norwee not pushing for a response. norwee can u tell me what thats about? 33 and 34
that unfortunately did not help me at allIn post 238, Alianna wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=89124In post 232, froggodoggo wrote:Ali do you have a town game u can link to cause I really think youre scum rn but I really wanted to play with you
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=89374
Here you go.
i think you're shading both alianna and I so yes i would like a definitive opinionIn post 234, Not_Mafia wrote:It's a bit early to be forming definitive opinions don't you thinkIn post 163, froggodoggo wrote:hi not underscore mafia. do you think alianna is mafia?In post 154, Not_Mafia wrote:Just an observation friend
Yeah I kinda forgot about that LOL. good thing i asked!In post 263, Alianna wrote:If we wagon a cop with a result, we want to know what that result is before we flip them.
hi andante! i think the posts are definitely game related, just... cluttered with emojis. read em back!In post 287, Fun Times wrote:You prefer this? none of these posts are game related, and there just a greater focus on using emojis than literally anything gam related. Like, you "enjoy his posting" but like, what is there to enjoy? none of it is solving, and all of it is just distracting from people actually trying to solveIn post 286, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Also, I'm actually enjoying NM's posting and I much prefer him playing like this to the way he usually does. For that alone, he can live until at least D2. Just for making an effort.
-Andante
In post 297, Not_Mafia wrote: Please don't take it personally froggo, we're friends after all you have a red role pm this time
used to live in NY but am in florida for the summer. AC is fine but outside… every single day it’s blazing hot!!In post 308, Something_Smart wrote:Mod notes: my apartment is so hot :/ my AC hasn't been working very well lately.
buddy i voted when there was like 2 or 3 other votes, my vote on alianna was in no way intended for a day ending quickhammer, when the hammer happened i was catching up, tried to quote something, and realized the thread was locked. that makes no sense and im voting u after i catch up.In post 568, Fun Times wrote:What's the question here? I was like one of the only people who actually gave a reason for that vote. Froggo voted too, so I find it interesting froggo is coming at us, like, I wrote yall a paragraph of my full thoughts on that situation, no one had questions at the time, yall just ran with it.In post 566, NorwegianboyEE wrote:How right you were.In post 561, Fun Times wrote:You actually SR me here? I mean, I'm not asking to be town cleared for limming a town, I just believe there a lot better people to focus on hereIn post 556, NorwegianboyEE wrote:That isn’t townie so i do not townclear them for this.In post 552, Gamma Emerald wrote:the confidence in the scumflip?
- Real talk, we need to hear from goldfish, I don't like the idea of just playing this game as if goldfish isn't here
-Andante
cant unvote a dead slotIn post 579, Fun Times wrote:you were more than welcome to have unvoted.
because a lot of their posts pinged me as scum and i wanted to pressure them to see if they could change my mind. quickhammering them does not accomplish that and in no way does my vote include anything abt wanting to kill them d1In post 644, Not_Mafia wrote:Now I'll throw the question back to you, cause you want to blame me for that lim, why were you even on it in the first place?
this is so lamist. there is no reason to post this other than to grab at town cred lolIn post 654, Fun Times wrote:Andante actually said to me in our discord that she thinks mafia would fear kill us. I told her I don’t see why sunce we were wrong.
i'm assuming that's just gamma's playstyle, but the one game i played with them they were SK and a mafia was TRing them d1 for meta. i have no qualms with gamma's play rn thoIn post 576, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also what is this style i’m seeing from Gamma.
All Gamma does is say "gross post", "off vibes", "bad"
Like there is no substance at all.
YOU WERE LITERALLY FLAMING THEM FOR NOT RESPONDING AND THEN THEY DID AND YOU SAID THATS A SCUM TELL TOOIn post 592, Fun Times wrote:then the pop in just locked me into that SR and yeah.
In post 424, Fun Times wrote:yeah, like it hit e-1 then started dissolving, I'd also just be down to yeet NM and call it a day... maybe. I haven't seen Alliana here since I started calling her maf, frozen scum?
-Andante
you kept spamming that she’s frozen scum. this accomplishes nothing. your point is made. alianna still hasn’t seen your post and spamming it doesn’t make that happen. people who are reading the thread have seen your post. this is not aggressive, this is shoving your sus down other people’s throats.In post 430, Fun Times wrote:HEY HEY!!!In post 429, PenguinPower wrote:She called me frozen scum after 45 seconds so...seems she wants a very rapid response.In post 428, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Didn’t you call her scum just some hours ago? And you say the could be frozen scum?In post 424, Fun Times wrote:yeah, like it hit e-1 then started dissolving, I'd also just be down to yeet NM and call it a day... maybe. I haven't seen Alliana here since I started calling her maf, frozen scum?
-Andante
Your case was different!!
I 100% said something yesterday about Alianna being scum, and she still hasn't responded... sus
-Andante
In post 441, Fun Times wrote:frozen scum...In post 437, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I would like Alianna to come back and respond in thread before proceeding to yeet her.
-andante
like a couple minutes after you call her frozen scum she comes back and you immediately start calling her scum again for the complete opposite reason? you’re not giving any feasible way out here, it’s just obnoxious. damned if she does damned if she doesn’t. how is this aggressive? you’re not bringing any points to her attention you’re just yelling.
In post 454, Fun Times wrote:"I missed everything, but I know yall want me to respond to stuff" right... if you know we want a response, you know of at least 1 post, this is literally scum that was told to go post... you can't convince me otherwiseIn post 447, Alianna wrote:Hi.
I'm back.
I apologize for having been a village idiot.
What specifically do y'all want me to respond to?
-Andante
In post 455, Fun Times wrote:The timing of that pop in too... right as "we're gonna wait for Ali to do stuff before doing anything" like, there is no freaking way that was a coincidence... lmaoooooooo this is too great
-Andante
multiple posts mocking alianna’s theoretical scum game and laughing at her for not being inhumanly proactive. you did not give her a chance whatsoever. do you really expect someone to ever react positively to this?? regardless of Ali’s alignment this is unfair and unhelpful to town and to me looks like someone trying to overwhelm town into an easy miselim.In post 464, Fun Times wrote:in Ali's ISO it looks like she'd quote stuff to respond to.. when she returned from not being here... that is not the cause here. now she's in panic mode, like "what's up? tell me what I missed!!" like, just read the game from where you left off.. quote the stuff you wanna respond to? like you've been doing....
frozen scum... like, I'll say it again, there's no freaking way ali is town here.
-Andante
here things start to get better but it’s just too late. you’re still not actually trying to work with her. you’re still bombarding her. Aggressive play helps determine someone’s alignment by putting them in sticky situations where they answer instinctually, giving you greater insight into their alignment. I have no faith that you would’ve ever played this differently, you are setting up Ali for failure by forcibly putting her in an inescapable corner of doom. It’s a shitty way to push someone out d1, there’s no turning point in your read just die scum die scum die scum. She was not scum. You are. o7In post 479, Fun Times wrote:Why no response to your wagon? No response to my request to a link to a scumgame? Why no reads? Why literally nothing town indicative from you in response to all of this?In post 470, Alianna wrote:Heck to the yes. Though I am slightly skeptical that town would want to locktown me.In post 465, Enchant wrote:I am open to locktown Alianna at this point.
i disagree with this, we have lots of time and I think making sure UTRs are actually town is good, but anyways the walkthrough of ur thought process helped a lot and I apologize for what I said earlier. i am kind of just SRing the playstyle and having the play by play helps to establish for me how it can be helpful and come from town.In post 719, Fun Times wrote:most people here TR me, so all this? completely unhelpful.
on d1 with 7 to lim? the wagon needs to double in size and then have someone claim intent and then ask for a claim and in that process no one can unvote and the person who claimed intent needs to still have intent. that’s just not trueIn post 732, Not_Mafia wrote:3 votes is a significant wagon pal
