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Yeah, Scorp is town for having this thought. I haven't thought about it long enough to be sure, but I had an itch over here as well.In post 5417, Scorpious wrote:
And 1 of them is you..In post 5415, Cape90 wrote:
Dude we should have like 4ish mafia left and we have got 0 deadIn post 5403, Scorpious wrote:nor Am I. Hopefully the big brains can take something out of pushing a VT..
Nice concerned townie post
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In post 5427, MathBlade wrote:Where is boon?
I actively said I was gonna be busy until Sunday, and that I'd try to hop in.
Also, I play like one game every 8 months now, I don't check up on site every day.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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judge it based on the fact he's been pushed the entire time, not overall. that's fire holding too high of a standard that aren't able to be lived up to.In post 5505, fireisredsir wrote:
not that you're a bad player but that you haven't played to the standard i expected. i don't think you're right. close to right, maybe? could possibly be nero, but i think cape is more likely, and it could be frog.In post 5497, VP Baltar wrote:So you think I'm bad if I'm town here? I hope upon my flip you reconsider that I am probably just closer to right, and to not wagon people over personality
im not wagoning anyone over personality
And none of VP's reads have flipped either, so that's also prejudging his reads. Don't love this post on an overall level, especially considering you stated it could possibly be Nero/Frog, two people he is pushing. Nero's been pushing him for a long time too.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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Eh, you reached a lot with it. Malcolm wasn't about not elimming in those. I had pushed that slot far before Galron was up. Im more talking my discussion.In post 5941, MathBlade wrote:
Your last post of prior day.In post 5932, April Ludgate wrote:In post 5247, MathBlade wrote:April is a carryover of Skitter read and boon pushed Malcolm over my objections ANDadmitted Malcolm was about not elimming in my scumreads.
post your proof on this one, this is a misrep.
I don't regret Malcolm wagon either.
You said you did anything but elim in VP and Galron.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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Eh, if VPB is scum, post game, we can talk about how this is lazy and only surface reading.In post 5518, MathBlade wrote:If VP is scum April has to die. Like requiredTime Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In post 5561, tenebrousluminary wrote:I plan to do significant rereading if he flips scum. If he flips town, April looks better, Nero worse, probably more.
Yeah, see, Math, Tene has the exact opposite read with the VPB, soTime Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In post 5597, fireisredsir wrote:titus is pushing for a vp flip over a Nero one despite the wagons being close at 5-4, probably bc both are town and she knows a vp flip will make her look better than a Nero one
Remind me to look into VPB - Fire possibilities.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In a Cape scum world.In post 5600, VP Baltar wrote:
In what world are both Nero and I town? Highly unlikelyIn post 5597, fireisredsir wrote:titus is pushing for a vp flip over a Nero one despite the wagons being close at 5-4, probably bc both are town and she knows a vp flip will make her look better than a Nero oneTime Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In post 5627, fireisredsir wrote:k well vp is either maf or so deep in the pocket that he might as well be. gee i wonder why titus wants to keep him alive
VOTE: vp
would have to be strong bussing, i dont think it's fire/vpb. I might just play the game with Fire as town in mind, and if im wrong, oh well.
I think we should fade in the neighborhood today.
I also agree with Titus' VPB over Nero. Cape would be my preferred, but yeah, I don't think I'll vote Nero before VPB. Mainly because my read was wrong yesterday, and Nero has been pushing VPB, one of the main wagons from yesterday, and if VPB is scum, I don't think I can fade Nero before VPB if it's between the two, which I understand.
I think it's possible they are both town in a ScumCape world.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In post 5655, VP Baltar wrote:
Yes, cape is town. This is established.In post 5645, Frogsterking wrote:vP AAPEALING TO CAPE = CAPE TOWN
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In post 4964, April Ludgate wrote:Scum are actively going to want my wagon for the day, the Yeet kill takes even more protection off of me.
Yeah, I’ll go today instead of VPB. Listen to my reads post death, was wrong on Malcolm, but guarantee I had some scum.
I’ll be gone for a few days, I’ll try to pop in here and there, but yeah.
I had fun this game. Malcolm town flip basically means I die, I get it.In post 4968, April Ludgate wrote:
I’ll read up when I can. I’m at the movie theatres, andIn post 4963, MathBlade wrote:
I’d much rather you answer my questions and check my mech spec out that there’s like two scum in that hood.In post 4960, April Ludgate wrote:I’m totally fine dying today.
I’m VT.
If anyone thinks I’m scum who would actively kill Yeet, my number 1 supporter, lol.I’ll be limited the next few days.
(I see every movie basically, big cinephile.)
Also y'all need to chill with that "Boon is gone just disappeared" nonsense. I specifically stated I'd be inactive and gone, and I didn't even hit prod range.
I do not plan to ever be here every day on site, I will check up once, maybe twice a day on a good day, but super not unlikely that I miss a day.
Like I said, I play one game every 8 months ish now, I do not check site every day, especially if I'm busy, which I actively let you guys know ahead of time.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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I never reached prod range, people just assumingIn post 5834, Titus wrote:Mod, can we get a prod on April?Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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I've just known Nero for so long, I've modded many of his scum games.In post 5956, VP Baltar wrote:
That's a bummer because you're incorrect, and you're also shooting the town in the foot if you're ditching me. If you do believe it is cape, I'd argue to kill Nero because he's pretty useless regardless. His reads are terrible, and he ups the noise to signal ratio significantly.In post 5951, April Ludgate wrote:I don't think I'll vote Nero before VPB.
I modded Last Extravaganza where he was the last scum remaining in a 10 Day Phase game, and I just don't think this is Nero scum.
I could be wrong and he might know exactly how to handle me, but I don't think he would even think about that as scum, tbh, which makes it more likely he's just right or town incorrect, but his logic point of you escaping wagons time after time means me accepting Nero over you is just an ego/pride thing, and while over text, my words come across as more narcissistic than I actually am, I am very willing to set ego aside most of the time, and this just is one of those moments for me.
I'm not convinced you are scum, though, but I am seeing a couple possibilities. Ill go over them when I finish catching up. I'm about 10 pages away from being caught up.
I have a moon theory with you as scum, but I wanna see where the final 10 pages go.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In post 5956, VP Baltar wrote:His reads are terrible, and he ups the noise to signal ratio significantly.
I don't think people have terrible reads this game. I don't see why his reads aren't fair.
Having an incorrect read is not the same as a terrible read. It doesn't matter if all of someone's reads are wrong if it helps them end up with the right reads.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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I think this is a good find. Might not be one, but it's worth looking into for sure.In post 5757, fireisredsir wrote:
dragons crumbing traitor y/yIn post 2669, Save The Dragons wrote:holy crap i thought i posted more in this game 22 posts wow i'm probably scum
mostly kidding but also kind of not
STD has been sheepish this game, and OMGUS coast scum read me since I put them as my 2nd strongest scum read behind Malcolm yesterday.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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2675 is a good post by Cape.
It could be scum motivated, but it's good nonetheless, and is worth looking into deeper.
My hesitation with this hard of a Nero push is that if VPB/Nero is Town/Town, Cape is playing in a way to get Nero, the harder to fade slot, and establishing Nero/VPB stronger. This sets up a possible misfade chain between Nero/VPB, and even if Cape gets outed later, 1 scum for the price of 2 townies is a complete success.
I'm tinfoiling a situation where Frog and VPB are scum together.
I didn't start thinking about this as a possibility until Frog brought up "VPB is trying to tie me together to him so after he flips, people will think I'm the partner." I have a question for everyone, did any of you guys think about the possibility of Frog and VPB as possible scum partners? Like I said, I didn't.
I haven't quite checked out when VPB started pushing Frog, but if the Frog push started to come after VPB had any sort of heat, then that might have been a strong distancing tactic. It might have happened accidentally by scummates playing against each other, then having to settle into that situation.
I was almost ready to be in a situation where I thought if VPB was scum, then Frog would be town, but Frog's comment made me pause.
This would also make sense with VPB's Cape town read being way stronger than it has any right to be. Keep in mind, VPB has been actively pushing against 2 scum in the neighborhood, which while that is generally less likely, I feel, and with the setup spec leaning towards a traitor (even if there isn't a traitor), there's plenty of fuel for us to feel that there would be 2 scum in the neighborhood, making a possible TownCape come across as scum after VPB flips.
This theory would become especially more detailed if VPB were to flip Traitor. IF VPB were traitor, the stagnated nature of the game would make a lot of sense yesterday, because scum could have been legitimately worried that VPB were their traitor, but not being completely sure.
This theory works even if VPB isn't traitor, ofc, but even moreso if he is.
VPB, if scum, by all means would be setting up the game to look good for his team if he does go down. Remember what he was doing yesterday? He said he was willing to go down to help the town, which means that personality trait is something he has/wants to show he has, making it just as likely that if he were scum, he would be doing the same thing for his own team as scum.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In post 5675, Frogsterking wrote:I think VP is trying to end the day early and make it look like I'm bussing him to set me up to get mislimmed
Was anybody in this game thinking this besides Frogster?
My tinfoil here is that ScumFrogster was nervous about the back and forth, and that their scum theatre, even if it happened through teammates pushing each other without it being planned, and then going with it because too late now, and they made this post like a damage control post.
If you've ever been scum before and your partner puts pressure on you, it can enact emotions, right? Even if you understand that it's a play, pressure is pressure.
Idk, I just really think VPB/Frogster have partner possibility now.
This goes a lot deeper for me than you would actually think.
My main issue with Malcolm stemmed from a comment that Frogster made, town/town clearing Malcolm/Tene feud, I believe, and I felt the scum energy, but I put it towards Malcolm, not Frog.
VPB/Frogster/Tene possibility then. With the knowledge that Malcolm is town, I'll go back and look at that area.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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What are your bulletpoint reasonings for FrogsterScum?In post 5965, VP Baltar wrote:
correct. His reads are confirm biased and poorly reasoned.In post 5961, April Ludgate wrote:Having an incorrect read is not the same as a terrible read.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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I haven't really understood VPB's Frogster case from the beginning, and it's been a 1v1 that I've just kinda thrown aside, tbh.
I also don't understand the high town read on Cape and because VPB's specifically stated not 2 scum in the neighborhood. Him flipping scum could make town think there are, and we would automatically go to Cape because of that.
Mathblade's scum reads on me after I tunneled a townie + their incessant pushing of 2 scum in the neighborhood, and then them still being alive Day 3 also would make sense scum plan to abuse Mathblade's pushes for this day phase, and probably the next one.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In post 1006, Save The Dragons wrote:anyway.
nordom is town for his interaction with deasvail but i think DV is also town for looking at eyes without a face with suspicion.
datisi i'm leaning town on, i'm not sure what the case on him is, i don't quite understand it
i want ari to speak more, but i thought between HEM and Ari, ari looked worse, which is a change from my previous read of HEM being bad. I think I want to VOTE: Aristeia for now.
I guess they were pushing the slot a bit, but lol, hope you enjoy.In post 1012, Save The Dragons wrote:i will enjoy playing with your replacement.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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Okay, before I call it, gonna do a reads list
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Now, I think Cape has a similar amount of equity as scum as VPB/Frog, however, if VPB is scum, I don't think Cape is. If VPB is town, I think Cape is scum.
Tenebrous is almost coming down to POE scum.
I don't really see the point of Frogster saying that line he did as scum with VPB town.
There's likely a scum, 2 if we're living in the Cape scum world, and I think the lower on my 3 townie tiers they are, the more likely they are to be scum. I don't think it's Titus or Fire.
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I was wrong on Malcolm, Frogster made that comment, and VPB's level of town read on Cape.In post 5978, fireisredsir wrote:what changed from yesterday where you were saying VP was def town?Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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there's a reason you're in that tier. You feel like almost POE scum to me, there were a few of your comments I didn't like that felt agenda pushy this day phase.In post 5979, tenebrousluminary wrote:
So where has your me push been since forever?In post 5976, Eyes without a face wrote:All caught up (unless new posts while I'm composing this)
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[*]fua/Enchant, [*]Nero Cain, [*]VP Baltar
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What did I do to go from your top read to scum?In post 5977, April Ludgate wrote:Okay, before I call it, gonna do a reads list
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Now, I think Cape has a similar amount of equity as scum as VPB/Frog, however, if VPB is scum, I don't think Cape is. If VPB is town, I think Cape is scum.
Tenebrous is almost coming down to POE scum.
I don't really see the point of Frogster saying that line he did as scum with VPB town.
There's likely a scum, 2 if we're living in the Cape scum world, and I think the lower on my 3 townie tiers they are, the more likely they are to be scum. I don't think it's Titus or Fire.
Currently my guess would be the DV slot.
How can you or anyone possibly pair me with VP?
Gamestates generally change after a new day because the game plays with more information.
Malcolm flipping town, but I still feel that Frogster-Malcolm-Tene triangle had scum energy within it.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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A decent wonder, I'd say.In post 5982, tenebrousluminary wrote:I wonder if April expected me to town her forever for white knighting me and is flipping because it didn't work.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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Malcolm wagon came after VPB wagon, VPB wagon just lost steam and picked up steam around it.In post 5985, tenebrousluminary wrote:I dont think you get to put VP scum for being a CW to a wagon you started.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In post 5987, tenebrousluminary wrote:
What attachment lolIn post 5983, April Ludgate wrote:Purple and Pink tier are pretty close to each other, it's really just your attachment to that triangle.
I have interacted with Frog like literally never.
Wasn't your doing.
One of my main scum energy vibe checks was from Frogster calling you and Malcolm TvT, and I've brought up that multiple times. This was early day 2.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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I'm seeing it now. I'll look into possibilities with VPB town/Frogster scum.In post 5986, VP Baltar wrote:
- He voted camped Yeet D1 forever until I started pushing him. This is very unusual to me because I just finished a game with Frogster where he was wild ass voting everyone in the game as town with tinfoil theories. Here, he is timid and afraid to move his vote around.In post 5968, April Ludgate wrote:
What are your bulletpoint reasonings for FrogsterScum?In post 5965, VP Baltar wrote:
correct. His reads are confirm biased and poorly reasoned.In post 5961, April Ludgate wrote:Having an incorrect read is not the same as a terrible read.
- The only pushes he has made all game have bene Fua/Enchant, Yeet, Galron and myself. I know I'm town. I know Yeet is town. I think it's highly likely Galron is town. Those are the safe bets, too. Not looking good.
- His reasoning around the Galron wagon yesterday does not hold up to scrutiny. (There is a fairly in depth analysis of this in my big post opening the day, and follow up questioning of Frogster today).
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I might be there too. I wanna see VPB's townCape case, thoughIn post 5990, fireisredsir wrote:i think i would slightly prefer cape to VP at the momentTime Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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Hot damn, Deas/Fire/my slot were connected all the way back here.In post 1795, fua wrote:
Ari, Deas, and Fire are all putting Wu in their scumreads, Yeet and Skitter are trying to push a wagon on me, and VP is directly staying on Wu still (even if he's the one I least suspect out of the six).In post 1792, tenebrousluminary wrote:I don't like to see players being rude to one another.
Who is doing this? Wu does not have many votes.In post 1789, fua wrote:Ari wagon is almost certainly pure IMO. I'm less confident that Wu's is and so many people pushing him now that others are getting suspicion makes me wary.
So looking into this slot a bit more, as it's one I need more analysis on, Yeet town/Skitter-galron town pushing Fua, if you see Galron as town, then Fua could be a scum slot. This was a vig claim, correct? and we havent had any vig shots? If scum are informed of Psychologist, this could have been a setup. Hmm. Who is GeneralWu slot?Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In post 5993, fireisredsir wrote:can you give me your town titus case, april? i don't see it
Titus has made a lot of anti-scum agenda moves, actively going against Math at the expense of getting pushed.
I was scum once, who spent everything I had in the game to pocket Titus, Math was scum, and they had pretty much the exact same dynamic. Took me a bit longer to see it here because I'm not coming from the same perspective, but it seems like they are in the same situation.
Also, Titus was one that was pushing VPB-Nero as possible TvT, which I can see as a possibility, because Cape can be scum.
Titus, as scum who jumped on Malcolm late game, has no reason to defend me the way they have, if anything they had the perfect out to get pressure onto me. I guess it's possible they could try to pocket me, but I have essentially agreed with most of Titus' thoughts on the game, even if they're a little bit different than mine.
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In post 2061, fua wrote:I claim PR. You can all now feel free to get off of me.
Fire or Skitter should probably die today. I wouldn’t be opposed to Wu, but it feels like a waste right now.In post 2064, fua wrote:Try it and you’ll catch my vig bullet in the face tonight. No, really. Make mu day.
this is like 80% scum, for what it's worth. However, it's not entirely necessary to fade there, because they eventually get caught out when no vig shots go through, plus I'd rather not fade an actual vig this game if for some reason I'm wrong.
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In post 5999, VP Baltar wrote:
My main reasons for thinking cape!town are:In post 5991, April Ludgate wrote:@VPB - Can you do this for your Cape read too?
- His "case" on me from D2 was so stream of consciousness and poorly formed, I have a hard time seeing scum type that up and being like "yes, this is persuasive!"
- He flipped to town reading me D2 at a point when pushing me would have been a much easier scum play and probably helped secure my lim. He similarly was not sold on Galron at E-2 to E-1 range. Again, I don't see much advantage to this as scum beyond a vague effort toward town points. (though if all three wagons at that point were town, maybe that's a good time to score town points?)
- He didn't really pump up the Nero/VP fight in the hood since early game, and has questioned us both pretty fairly I would say.
I don't think this is a slam dunk town case, but like I said before, PoE points much more to Nero here than Cape. I could be wrong, but Nero's arguments with me all game have been so bad faith it is truly difficult to see him as town. Clearing him on amorphous meta reads ain't really gonna do it for me.
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In post 2061, fua wrote:I claim PR. You can all now feel free to get off of me.
Fire or Skitter should probably die today. I wouldn’t be opposed to Wu, but it feels like a waste right now.In post 2064, fua wrote:Try it and you’ll catch my vig bullet in the face tonight. No, really. Make mu day.In post 2070, fua wrote:If anyone else wants to claim vigilante then feel free.In post 2090, fua wrote:A vigilante can feel free to CC in public or tonight by shooting me. This is a stupid risk to take if I’m scum.In post 2093, fua wrote:I can’t believe I actually need to explain why I’m town after I claim vigilante D1.
This trajectory is a bit off. They didn't technically claim vig immediately. they claimed PR, and then heavily implied vig. Then they scouted a bit before officially claiming Vig. and we have yet to see a kill go off.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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Oh, I had that wrong. hmm.In post 6004, Nero Cain wrote:
not exactly. Eyes is the one calling us TvT while Titus is "town leaning" on me but has voted me/stayed voting me b/c my wagon had "momentum" and said she'd vote me over VPIn post 5997, April Ludgate wrote:Also, Titus was one that was pushing VPB-Nero as possible TvT, which I can see as a possibility, because Cape can be scum.
town is evenly split with half calling VP scum and the other half calling me a better flip or silly junk like that.
Idk, I'll have to find a better way to explain why I town read Titus then.
I just also feel like Math was generally pushing townies, and if Titus is scum, there's no need for her to stop Math, just let them go unless Titus is scum defending scum.
But Math was pushing Galron most of the time.
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In post 6003, VP Baltar wrote:
Odds of the psychologist result N1 getting a false negative on a scum are pretty low. It is far more likely Yeet had an accurate result on Galron.In post 5997, April Ludgate wrote:@VPB - what doesnt make sense about Galron, he's basically right in the middle.
Where does Yeet post this? I would agree, though, and I also feel like Galron is probably town anyways.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In post 4657, Frogsterking wrote:VOTE: Yeet
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Yeah, froggy is scum. this happened right after yeet posts.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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I would like to point out that this is likely the standard for a Psychologist Role PM, and it doesn't mean there is a traitor in this game.
It's possible that scum are Informed of a Psychologist in this game or that there is No Vigilante, giving Fua the chance to safely claim Vig to protect them from a psych guilty or out a possible vig.
Yeet was also town reading myself, DeasVail, and Fire, the exact wagon that was on Fua that brought Fua to claim vig in addition to the way he was defending Galron.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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Why would scum be desperate unless both Galron/Yeet are w/w? I don't think Yeet has been acting like it tbh.In post 4652, MathBlade wrote:
That’s not obvTown moves CapeIn post 4650, Cape90 wrote:Oh Yeet is probably making obvtown moves right now. Your on the naughty list Save The Dragons for shading Yeet
It’s desperation and NAI
Besides all this Yeet has literally been the towniest unconfimred town anyways, like hands down, no contestIn post 4660, Frogsterking wrote:In post 4650, Cape90 wrote:Oh Yeet is probably making obvtown moves right now. Your on the naughty list Save The Dragons for shading Yeet
Yeah Cape you're seeing something I'm not, can you explain quickly?In post 4653, Save The Dragons wrote:
are you reading the same game i'm readingIn post 4650, Cape90 wrote:Oh Yeet is probably making obvtown moves right now. Your on the naughty list Save The Dragons for shading Yeet
lol, im having trouble seeing Frog as town. I dont wanna tunnel, though.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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Yeah, I probably wouldnt want to go Frog today anyways.In post 6028, Nero Cain wrote:I don't really think Frog is scum. Cape and Enchant could be scum, I was voting Enchant earlier.
Cape/VPB seem like the right way to go today, and I agree with the VPB not escaping another day.
Rough if he's town, but regardless, that's high high info slot.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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In post 6030, fireisredsir wrote:yeet was TRing me? i think he wanted to vote me actually
Maybe near the end, but he's the one that was talking to me about the possibility of you and DV both being town.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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my votes not out, and I'm living in the Cape-VPB, one or the other world.In post 6036, VP Baltar wrote:
Takes my reads.In post 6031, April Ludgate wrote:Cape/VPB seem like the right way to go today, and I agree with the VPB not escaping another day.
Says I should not live.
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This 100% has at least 1 scum on it, regardless of VPB's alignment.
If VPB is scum, a partner will be bussing here because VPB as scum would be in "just gonna last as long as I can" mode. My theory is that it's Frog.
I town read Nero and STD, Fire I've been trusting for a while, and if he's scum, well fuck.
Frog/Tene are my largest suspects as partners.
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Here's the thing, VPB was town reading Cape super hard, I stated I thought this was potential for VPB setting up Cape as a possible scum partner if he goes down, and feel Frog/VPB have been scum theatre'ing it up.
The way that VPB/Frog cases against each other feel very strong, like they are only seeing those type of details because they know that the other is scum, if that makes sense.
I also really don't think ScumCape pushes me in this situation. It feels like he's possibly pocketed by VPB, which would make sense considering VPB has been hard town reading Cape, and if VPB is scum, a pocket in the neighborhood makes a lot of sense.
I think VPB has played a strong scum game, but yeah, I do believe VPB is likely scum here.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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It might not be, but I think I gotta go with it.In post 6360, VP Baltar wrote:
This is not a good look for you, nglIn post 6359, April Ludgate wrote:I still feel my VPB/Frog case has weight.
There's something in me that wants to believe you're town, I just can't logically get myself to think otherwise right now. I'm looking for any reason, I really am.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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I'm gonna put Galron slot as Green. I think that it's more likely Galron is town than a potential traitor.
Day 1
(10): tenebrousluminary, fireisredsir,GeneralWu, Save The Dragons, VP Baltar,Yeet, Titus,humaneatingmonkey, Enchant, Cape90 [E-0!]MathBlade
Enchant (2):, April LudgateGalron
(1): FrogsterkingYeet
Nero Cain(1): Nero Cain
Frogsterking (1): Eyes without a face
Not Voting (4): Scorpious, DeasVail,,MalcolmTuckerGeneralWu
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(9): Eyes without a face,MalcolmTucker, April Ludgate, Scorpious,Yeet, VP Baltar, Titus, fireisredsir,Galron[E-0!]MathBlade
VP Baltar (5): DeasVail, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary, Save the Dragons, Nero Cain
(3): Cape90, Enchant,GalronMalcolmTucker
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VP Baltar (5): Nero Cain, Save The Dragons, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary, fireisredsir [E-3]
Cape90 (3):, Titus, ScorpiousMathblade
April Ludgate (2): Cape90, Enchant
Frogsterking (1): Eyes without a face
Nero Cain (1): VP Baltar
Not Voting (3): DeasVail,, April LudgateGalron
Hmm, this might be a Cape case accidentally.
First thing that stands out to me is Cape/Enchant slot are next to each other in all 3 of these vote counts. The first 2 are the last of each day, and then 3rd is most current one.
Interesting. If you look at Day 2/Day 3, VPB has no revealed slots whatsoever, and is made up of 4 of the 5 same people. Who are the two that are switched?
DeasVail and Fire. that pairing comes up yet again.
Fire, VPB, Titus slot are the 3 slots that have been on both misfades. VPB/Titus are both in that momentum shifting section to finalize it for both. I do see a world that could have Titus/VPB together, but I find it a little odd that Titus would defend VPB in this scenario the way she is.
Also, Enchant's like 100% scum this game. If there's only 1 kill tonight, and it's me, and Enchant claims they vig shot me, yeah, know that's just scum.
I also don't like the Frogster Vig guiding stuff, looks so fake but that might be a confbias thing because I have Frogs as scum in my head right now.
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I just find it a really weird scum move if Cape comes after me here.
Unless Cape pocketed VPB, and he's trying to protect his pocket buddy? Could make sense why he's pushing me then, and Enchant was already looking for a reason to jump onto me since I started bringing up I thought they were scum when I was looking into Fua slot.
If I was starting to get on the right trail, it makes sense to come after me as a scape goat to VPB.
However, I can see possible scum VPB setting up to jump onto my wagon because there's definitely the possibility for some momentum for my wagon right now, and townCape might have been warlocked by VPB, and now Cape looks to be the main one pushing me.
That could have been manufactured, though.
@Nero - you're gonna love me asking this, but was there any talk in your neighborhood in the vain of "what do you think about April?" this day phase?Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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Something that's off with this post is because I feel like if VPB was town, this would be a good thing? Like a "think so highly of my scum game" or a "i'm okay with this as it means Frog can be faded".In post 6360, VP Baltar wrote:
This is not a good look for you, nglIn post 6359, April Ludgate wrote:I still feel my VPB/Frog case has weight.
The thing is, VPB was also actively going "i'll die if it's what the town needs" and not only that, but we gave him the chance thereafter, to live further in this game than expected, but instead of accepting we were on the townie wagon, he just kind of pushes more focus onto "i was just sheeping april". He was doing this, but the manufacturing possibility of that element is what's intriguing. like he wanted that headline while playing the game yesterday.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- April Ludgate
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