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Post Post #2475 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:23 pm

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I haven't thought about any other teams yet but this is making me nervous
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Post Post #2476 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:29 pm

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In post 2469, Mathdino wrote:So here's the deal. This game has either 1 or 2 mafia remaining.

If there is 1 mafia remaining, it is confirmed to be Beefster.


Therefore if we lynch town today and the game isn't over by tomorrow, we autolynch Beefster. I think this is something we can all agree on.

So we should act as if there's 2 mafia remaining. Find all the possible scumteams and lynch once we've ruled out some of them.

If we assume Marangal townslipped earlier, scumteams available are:
Mathdino/TW (massive fakeclaim plan)
Mathdino/Beefster (Beefster jailkeeper, Mathdino anything)
Mathdino/Not_Mafia (Mathdino strongman, N_M roleblocker)
TW/Beefster (TW strongman, Beefster jailkeeper)
TW/Not_Mafia (TW strongman, N_M anything)
TW/IB (TW strongman, IB double-dayer)
Beefster/Not_Mafia (Beefster jailkeeper, N_M strongman)
I don't know how it happened, but I've been set up.

I holstered last night.

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Post Post #2477 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:29 pm

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In post 2474, the worst wrote:I'll be less of a lazy ass at lunch I promise.

Assume a Mom/Beef scumteam for sake of argument.

Is there any night action so far which indicates that the same person both used their action AND killed?

Has anyone received a message from Mom?
I don't personally give a shit about the answer to this question on the basis that FMPOV and assuming you're town, the only possible scumteams are Beefster/Not_Mafia and Beefster/Marangal, making Beefster the only non-brain-dead lynch.

In the case of Beefster/Marangal, no, Marangal could be killing while claiming Beefster is jailing her. This setup doesn't actually require a strongman; Beefster could block me N1 while Marangal does the kill, and Marangal could just do the kill herself on N2.

So I guess that works.
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Post Post #2478 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:30 pm

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If you don't believe me, I get it. I just hope there are only 3 scum.
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Post Post #2479 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:32 pm

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I'm gonna need to reread on Beef.
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Post Post #2480 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:35 pm

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You know what they say about assumptions, no one visited Math, but Math did act last night
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Post Post #2481 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:49 pm

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UNVOTE:

Fullclaim.
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Post Post #2482 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:03 pm

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Math can you confirm what action you submitted last night?
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Post Post #2483 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:10 pm

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No, because I literally sent the mod a PM saying I wasn't doing anything last night.
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Post Post #2484 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:15 pm

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Don't motion detectors just found out if something happened? Not like whether it was done by the target vs. someone visited them?
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Post Post #2485 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:18 pm

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Which is why I'm asking him to fullclaim. He's obviously not going to stick to the motion detector claim if he claims to know I did a thing last night.
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Post Post #2486 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:24 pm

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Unless he got a positive result despite the night action plan not involving targetint you
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Post Post #2487 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:26 pm

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Which feels kinda reachy.....
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Post Post #2488 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:34 pm

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I don't think I can really read Beef with any kind of accuracy.. Does anyone have first hand experience with him as scum?
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Post Post #2489 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:36 pm

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Everything Not_Mafia ever says is reachy.

The point is, regardless of what his claim is, he's hardclaiming a guilty on me.

Beefster was provably tied up jailing you. So unless the scumteam is literally you/Beefster fucking up N_M's night action, it's between me and Not_Mafia.

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I presented a scumcase on him a few times throughout the game. the worst should recognise this as very similar to his scumgame in Stack the Deck. The only thing that was making me townread him was the insistence that acryon was locktown, but if scum didn't know who the traitor was, that's easily nullifiable. Tbh I also townread the fact that he wagoned with acryon and A50 at literally every point possible (assumed scum wouldn't be that ballsy), but it's also Not_Mafia.
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Post Post #2490 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:36 pm

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In post 2488, the worst wrote:I don't think I can really read Beef with any kind of accuracy.. Does anyone have first hand experience with him as scum?
I do.

I don't have a strong read on him. His play has been scum motivated though.
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Post Post #2491 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:40 pm

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I was reaction testing, I still have some lingering paranoia over Math because a) he's still alive b) his usual policy lynch diatribe at the start of the game was so half-hearted. I was trying to see if I could catch him in a lie, confirm no motion on Math
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Post Post #2492 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:42 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2493 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:43 pm

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Inferno:


UNVOTE:
Or is it James390?


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Post Post #2494 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:44 pm

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It's probably just Beef? I still feel like we're missing some crucial aspect of the set-up, but I don't know what it is so I'm liable to just sheep Math
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Post Post #2495 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:47 pm

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I'm still alive because:

N1. Iconeum was obvtown/neverlynchable and scumteam wanted to fuck with my bodyguarding.

N2. I don't know why the fuck mastina was killed but I sure as hell wouldn't kill her of all people while she was hardtownreading me. My scumplay is to kill confirmed town, not mislynchables or people who townread me.

N3. Kthx was killed to completely negate any possible results on Beefster.
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Post Post #2496 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:48 pm

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Beefster feels too easy but it also feels like the only viable possibility
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Post Post #2497 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:49 pm

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Did worst claim yet?
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Post Post #2498 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:49 pm

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In post 2494, Not_Mafia wrote:It's probably just Beef? I still feel like we're missing some crucial aspect of the set-up, but I don't know what it is so I'm liable to just sheep Math
We're definitely missing something.

If scum is Beefster alone, these are the night actions:

N1. Beefster strongman kills Iconeum AND jails Marangal

N2. Beefster strongman kills mastina (and can't jail because roleblocked)

N3. Beefster kills Kthxbye and jails the worst.

This seems ludicrous.

Beefster, flavourclaim?
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Post Post #2499 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:59 pm

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Yes I claimed
In post 2462, the worst wrote:I've gone quackers.
Got no result last night.
In post 2463, the worst wrote:Weak cop ftr.
I get normal cop results if I target a member of the town.
If I target mafia I die
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