Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[Oxy]

Don't fall into the trap of thinking scum is on every wagon
UglyDuck could definitely be a radioactive wagon for scum

Are you still scumreading UD?

[the worst]

Very seriously consideriny townblocking the entire duckpool.

[Mathdino]

I haven't critically read any if his posts these last couple pages do I guess we'll have to see
Scum is good this game. It's gonna be tough.

[Mathdino]

Very seriously consideriny townblocking the entire duckpool.

Are you literally doing this because it's my lynchpool
Because if so you're seriously wasting the day away in terms of generating your reads

[the worst]

No they're both posting well.

Owe a reread to make sure I'm not TOO confbiased because this is starting to feel easy

[ruru]

Don't fall into the trap of thinking scum is on every wagon
UglyDuck could definitely be a radioactive wagon for scum

Are you still scumreading UD?

Are you still townreading Md?

[Oxy]

yes

[ofrhz]

Throwing away all of my townreads but 4.

What if Math, Oxy, skitter, and ruru are all town? Given this, who should we lynch today? Please discuss (seriously, I’m stuck).

@ruru/skitter- I kinda feel like Math is town? Like he has a tendency to sheep other people’s reads, which he did last time with ruru and was wrong about (cough cough Math why you do this again), and he was doing that with me. He admitted several times that he didn’t read my posts from last game and didn’t read my posts this game. I don’t think this is out of character for him.

I get that you have other arguments for scumreading Math, but I can’t really comment on those meta arguments.

VOTE: Draynth
I wonder if he has gone back and read through all those games he said he would read.
- insert big thinking emoji here -

[Oxy]

@orfhz is draynth your answer to your own thought experiment? If so, why? If not, then why haven't you answered the thought experiment yourself?

[ofrhz]

Yeah it is

Except the four people I singled out, I knocked down all of my townreads.

The rest in order of town to scum: pin, TW, Scioness, AP, Sunshine, UD, Mohab500, Draynth

I was trying to townread UD and literally had too many townreads.

Draynth is down there mostly for lack of content, and I can see how “I’m gonna read these three games and get back to you” could be a stalling technique. But like... I’ve screwed up somewhere.

[ofrhz]

I mean, this thought experiment is literally my reads lol. I might possibly be the only one with these reads though

[Oxy]

oh wow so your three scummiest people are the 2 lynch baits and the guy you just unvoted who is currently being wagoned?

[ofrhz]

Yeah. I did say I screwed up

[AP]

Also havent analysed but it feels like votes are flinging onto the ducks wayyyy too quickly whereas nobody has voted with me v Math despite the fact he just doesn't feel right.

No one else seeing this?

I see it, and it bothers me a lot. It maybe that we have 12 scums here and you're the only townie.

(That is of course to say that it's not even possible that you are pushing/voting someone the whole town reads as Town. No. That can't be the case.)

[AP]

hmmmmmmm

how do i make a readable catch up of 20 pages? post per page? spoilers? grouping by content?

Reading is for nerds. Just let us feel you.

[brassherald]

I was going to get a pagetop, but we are too far away, new VC for you.

Votecount 1.9

UglyDuck(4)

~ pinturicchio(60), AP(62), Mathdino(129), Oxy(117)

Oxy(1)

~ Scioness Sajj(38)

ofrhz(1)

~ UglyDuck(26)

Mathdino(1)

~ the worst(200)

Draynth(1)

~ ofrhz(97)

AP(1)

~ ruru(70)


Not Voting (4): Draynth(25), Sunshine13(27), Mohab500(52), skitter30(39)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-30 16:45:00)

MOD REMINDERS

Sunshine13 is VLA until April 24, 2018.

[the worst]

The rest in order of town to scum: pin, TW, Scioness, AP, Sunshine, UD, Mohab500, Draynth

Could you tier these for me? Loosely is ok

[Scioness Sajj]

that ruru v ap really bothers me.

[Oxy]

Lists are in no particular order

Town
Scioness Sajj
AP
Ruru
Mathdino
UglyDuck
Sunshine13

Town Lean
Pinturicchio
Mohab500

Null
Draynth
Skitter30

Scum
Ofrhz
The Worst

Mod
BrassHerald

[Scioness Sajj]

oxy i think i will fight you

but im only on page 27

[Oxy]

I have no reason to fight you.

[ruru]

@ruru/skitter- I kinda feel like Math is town? Like he has a tendency to sheep other people’s reads, which he did last time with ruru and was wrong about (cough cough Math why you do this again), and he was doing that with me. He admitted several times that he didn’t read my posts from last game and didn’t read my posts this game. I don’t think this is out of character for him.

I was actually thinking about that too but I feel like this case is different because
1. Md's town play is heavily based on PoE, sheeping a scumread feels a bit different to me
2. Md replaced into last game under time constraints. He's had all game to form his own opinion on you this time

[Oxy]

1. Why is sheeping a scum read (thus keeping them in your lynch pool) not a viable part of a poe strategy? Sadly, he is clearly not fighting for an ofrhz lynch today...

2. I don't think this takes into account the opinions on meta that Mathdino has shared in this thread and around this site.

[ofrhz]

The rest in order of town to scum: pin, TW, Scioness, AP, Sunshine, UD, Mohab500, Draynth

Could you tier these for me? Loosely is ok

Pin, TW, Scioness
AP, Sunshine, UD
Mohab500, Draynth

I think it’d be an effective use of my time to read people in the middle more closely.

[ruru]

What if Math, Oxy, skitter, and ruru are all town? Given this, who should we lynch today? Please discuss (seriously, I’m stuck).

If nobody else wants to lynch AP, then yeah probably Draynth/Mohab I guess

I'm kinda thinking sunshine/pin are somewhat towny now

TW closer to null than before