Mini 2074: Madness at Port Arthur (Game Over)

[Blake Belladonna]

If it helps, I've glanced at a few of Persivul's past games to double check this. It's been directly indicative every single time.

He is scum.

[Blake Belladonna]

For a direct correlation to how he is playing from a scum mindset, keep in mind that he has recently admitted to gambiting a wagon on himself, but has given no indication that he has legitimately gotten any reads on anybody from that gambit.

Yet all the same, people are jumping on him saying offhand once that he is okay with being lynched as a reason to call him town. That isn't a reason to call him town because there is no bite behind that statement. He's posturing so that people lynch somebody else today.

[Blake Belladonna]

Irrelephant, you need to stop trying to find specific NAI actions to attribute town to for Persivul and look at how he's played this game overall.

He hasn't been sorting.
he hasn't been looking to lynch scum.
There's no ferver behind his solving, like he doesn't even care.

He's fake this game. People are townreading him for ridiculous reasons, and you're focusing far too much on the data to look at it objectively without a town bias on his slot already.

Look at what I've posted about him and think about the fundamentals I've been getting at with him. Then tell me that he strays from that same mindset as thee game goes on and show me. It's not even possible to because he's scum.

[Fuscosco]

Irre, Blank has several years experience more than I, and I more than you.

Give us a trust here

[Fuscezu]

Irre, Blank has several years experience more than I, and I more than you.

Give us a trust here

Crap thats gotta stop now. It was cute when I was on my phone and couldnt get to the hydra login, but Im home rn.

[Fuscezu]

My point is, dont be a malakittens irre

[Fuscezu]

<3 her tho

[Blake Belladonna]

I southland trust an authority appeal like that, this is a phenomenon I only recently became aware of.

Recently as in last month recently.

[Blake Belladonna]

I wouldn't *

[Blake Belladonna]

However, I can say confidently that every reason I've seen to townread Persivul is not town indicative. It's very doable to fake an attack on insomnia and to go along with an inno soft.

[Fuscezu]

If you wanna have a talk about that kind of appeal or any tells associated with it we can, but I dont think its really necessary.

[RCEnigma]

Blake does anything change for you if his Lynch supports his claim? Because I'm under the impression you don't believe it at the moment.

[Blake Belladonna]

I believe his claim is NAI.

[insomnia]

However, I can say confidently that every reason I've seen to townread Persivul is not town indicative. It's very doable to fake an attack on insomnia and to go along with an inno soft.

From an objective point of view, you're more likely to see this as town. However, being subjected to a type of push that I've encountered before it makes me more likely to believe the people that push me are more likely to be town. I am obvious town as town and that's why scum often times just avoid pushing me. That's why I think Persivul, someone that doesn't post much anyway, won't do that as scum.

While I respect the veterans and what not, gaslighting Irrelephant won't do anyone better. Even good players can have bad reads. I just think lynching Succint pegs us a scum here and I think the case on Persivul is a stretch. Meta can be manipulated easily. I find Persivul a hard person to read and I have respect for him, which is why I don't want to lynch him.

I believe he should've been the N0 check like 10/10 times here.

[insomnia]

Maybe "gaslighting" isn't the right word here but you catch my drift.

[RCEnigma]

I believe his claim is NAI.

Don't know funky bike as a mod, if this where like Krazy or someone I would agree but things have looked pretty standard to me and I find governor as a pretty townie claim.

[Persivul]

For a direct correlation to how he is playing from a scum mindset, keep in mind that he has recently admitted to gambiting a wagon on himself, but has given no indication that he has legitimately gotten any reads on anybody from that gambit.

I've also admitted that I'm not being transparent with my thought processes. Yet, I'm 2 for 2 on lynches. Again, I haven't felt the need to obvtown, as I can self govern, and up until today I thought Irrel was a cop with an inno on me.

Yet all the same, people are jumping on him saying offhand once that he is okay with being lynched as a reason to call him town.

People understand that a governor who can self-target is highly likely to be town.

That isn't a reason to call him town because there is no bite behind that statement. He's posturing so that people lynch somebody else today.

Nope. Go ahead and lynch me. That will be good for me personally, as it will prove my claim.

From a scum perspective, lynching me today:
- makes me lynchable tomorrow, as I'm 1X. So, a NK doesn't need to be wasted on a weak utility town role
- it probably puts the game in evens, which generally sucks for town

[Persivul]

He hasn't been sorting.
he hasn't been looking to lynch scum.
There's no ferver behind his solving, like he doesn't even care.

I've lynched two scum.

I'm not being transparent with my thought processes, but at the end of the day, my vote is in the right place. The results speak for themselves.

[Persivul]

I believe his claim is NAI.

I really doubt that you think governors are 50/50 town/scum. It's this kind of statement that shows you're not being honest, and you have an agenda.

[Persivul]

Me pushing Blake's predecessor before Smile and skitter became bigger targets. May be the reason she came in gunning for me.

Spoiler:

So far tris is playing nothing like she did in Room Odds, in which she was town.

So far tris is playing nothing like she did in Room Odds, in which she was town.

This is accurate.

Why the change?

For some reason it seems like no one's really expressed a read on me. Does anyone want to give it a shot?

Sure - scummy side of null. Your ISO is a bunch of questions without pushes. You occasionally put a post in tags and say you don't like it but don't give specific reasons.

I have reason to believe ceejay may be town

Do you want to say more on this?

@tris can i interest you in joining the rce wagon?

Yeah, VOTE: RCEnigma I'll have a bit more to say in a moment.

Actually, I don't really have much more to say.

town

Why?

And...you keep on doing it.

Could have gotten something going? It was going nowhere. It was a waste to have it there. shiidaji otoh is a viable wagon and whatever happens with it, we'll get some info out of it.

Rather shii

was

a viable wagon at the time of my vote. Looks like people are waiting for the replacement. In the meantime:
VOTE: tris

[Fuscosco]

He hasn't been sorting.
he hasn't been looking to lynch scum.
There's no ferver behind his solving, like he doesn't even care.

I've lynched two scum.

[Fuscosco]

wat?

[Fuscosco]

I wasnt here for the smile wagon: so maybe you did?! Show me

[Persivul]

ISO the mod and check the VCs. You have years of experience - pretty sure you know how to do that.

[Fuscosco]

Right I also know how to not change my vote

*shrug*