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Post Post #10900 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:33 pm

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In post 10899, KidAmn wrote:Since it seems prudent to restate it as one of the people Rauth hasn't claimed to have investigated:

I am Cobble-aligned. I am not aligned with the cult or any anti-Cobble faction. I share the Cobble wincon. My targets were as follows:
N1: Rautherdir, who has claimed not to be blocked this night.
N2: Flavor Leaf, now dead.
N3: Zoraster, now dead.
N4: Elements, claimed Nexus SK aligned with Miss Lynch.
N5: Elements

If Rauth uses any post other than this to lie detect me tonight, if he does so, it is tantamount to a scum/cultclaim. There is no reason to use any other post.

PEdit: If A50 refuses to claim just get it over with.
As a note, I feel very strongly KidAmn is town. No need to lie detect him.
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Post Post #10901 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:35 pm

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@EP: I already gave you my list of suspects, and it seems UT has cleared xofelf too, so it's literally down to DEB/dave (and chenn IF his claim came AFTER he was Flavour Copped). I am
certain
it's one of them.

Why don't you shoot in dave/DEB and -if you don't get the CL- lynch me? I still lose that way, but it gives me half a chance to prove I am not the CL (which is better than shooting me outright because -while it does prove I am not the CL- won't help me much as I would be DEAD already).

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Post Post #10902 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:38 pm

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In post 10892, Untrod Tripod wrote:so you guys are aware that BBmolla has already flavor copped me, right?

because it feels like some of you either are not aware of it or are deliberately ignoring it
Your play is blantantly town too lmao
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Post Post #10903 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:41 pm

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In post 10901, Almost50 wrote:@EP: I already gave you my list of suspects, and it seems UT has cleared xofelf too, so it's literally down to DEB/dave (and chenn IF his claim came AFTER he was Flavour Copped). I am
certain
it's one of them.

Why don't you shoot in dave/DEB and -if you don't get the CL- lynch me? I still lose that way, but it gives me half a chance to prove I am not the CL (which is better than shooting me outright because -while it does prove I am not the CL- won't help me much as I would be DEAD already).
I think it would be best if you claimed instead. It'd be easier to verify.
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Post Post #10904 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:43 pm

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No. I have to die anonymously. Claiming turns me into a survivour.

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Post Post #10905 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:46 pm

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Claiming my flavour, that is. The role is called Martyr which is the inverse of a Jester.

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Post Post #10906 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:48 pm

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How about this. We hunt for runelords. KidAmn jailkeeps one of the targets (Not UT though)
I Lie Detect UT.
UT checks whoever KidAmn doesn't target.
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Post Post #10907 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:51 pm

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In post 10894, Untrod Tripod wrote:xof is NOT CULT
Unless you were compromised post claim. I'm Occams razoring that you weren't culted before then, but it is feasible that you were culted and then cleared a cult player after the fact.

I'm not particularly interested in lynching xof atm tho.
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Post Post #10908 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:53 pm

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If we've narrowed it down to three suspects then we can just check those suspects with the multiple abilities that can check if someone is cult or not.
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Post Post #10909 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:58 pm

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In post 10899, KidAmn wrote:Since it seems prudent to restate it as one of the people Rauth hasn't claimed to have investigated:

I am Cobble-aligned. I am not aligned with the cult or any anti-Cobble faction. I share the Cobble wincon. My targets were as follows:
N1: Rautherdir, who has claimed not to be blocked this night.
N2: Flavor Leaf, now dead.
N3: Zoraster, now dead.
N4: Elements, claimed Nexus SK aligned with Miss Lynch.
N5: Elements

If Rauth uses any post other than this to lie detect me tonight, if he does so, it is tantamount to a scum/cultclaim. There is no reason to use any other post.

PEdit: If A50 refuses to claim just get it over with.
I haven't investigated you because I believe your claim to be what it is and runelords already flipped a roleblocker.
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Post Post #10910 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:58 pm

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In post 10904, Almost50 wrote:No. I have to die anonymously. Claiming turns me into a survivour.
In post 10905, Almost50 wrote:Claiming my flavour, that is. The role is called Martyr which is the inverse of a Jester.
Thanks for this.

@Elements. Would you be willing to shoot A50 tonight?
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Post Post #10911 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:58 pm

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In post 10885, Cephrir wrote:or, and this is my preference, elements could play to his win condition instead
Elements playing to his wincon right now is to play to keep the game going long enough to have ML's ability activate. The biggest threat to that is cult. Therefore, Elements should shoot for cult.

Scum should shoot people outside of the lynch pool who are likely to be cult or ML, because cult is the biggest immediate threat and shooting ML means we have to lynch Elements, which is a lynch we spend on not groupscum. Which one of these they want is based on whether they think cult can be bigger than scum, which at the moment looks likely.

I'm not going to talk about optimal recruitments because town gains nothing from cult recruiting optimally.
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Post Post #10912 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:01 pm

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I am actually surprised the Cult Cop didn't target me or dave yet. I wonder why someone like xofelf takes precedence over me/dave/DEB, when nobody has been calling her CL anyway!

And speaking of who was calling who CL:
In post 10276, gobbledygook wrote:Almost is also an outside chance since he isn’t confirmed by anything too, I just townread his reaction the first time I accused him.
In post 10275, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 9949, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 0, chkflip wrote: 21. Dr Easy Bake
24. davesaz
28. pisskop, who replaced Hectic
Cult leader is more than likely in this group of people.
This is the updated list of who is most likely cult leader. It could also be UT, but that’s a much lower possibility. I think we should kill one of these over Iconeum.
'nough said. Gobble was culted last night I'm
dead certain
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Post Post #10913 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:03 pm

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In post 10893, Bingle wrote:
In post 0, chkflip wrote:01. Pine - Motivator (Confirmed to exist)
09. BBmolla - Flavor Cop (Confirmed to Exist)
19. Pink Ball -- INNOCENT CHILD (Confirmed to exist)
23. RCEnigma - Messenger (Confirmed to Exist)
32. gobbledygook - Friendly Neighbor (Confirmed to Exist)
26. Elements - SK (Confirmed via night result and ML claim)

02. Untrod Tripod - PI
08. Rautherdir - Lie Detector
15. Bingle - FBI Agent
17. xofelf - Knows number of cult
25. Miss Lynch - Backup SK, makes SK viable to win with town.
34. chennisden - Faith Healer
28. pisskop - Random JoaT, flavor meshes
38. KidAmn - JK

18. Gamma Emerald (Not Cult N1)
33. Cephrir (Not Cult N2)

21. Dr Easy Bake
24. davesaz
36. Almost50
40. EspressoPatronum
I'm not sure if I missed any claims. If I did, please share. I think EP was confirmed via something, but I'm not sure what. Of category 2, KA can be confirmed to exist via targeting someone who has a tangible night result. (Myself, perhaps?) Xof, ML, Chen, and pk have minor equity as cult leader/scum. DEB, Dave, A50, EP similar.
EP got confirmed to be town by me and I think confirmed to gobbles somehow?
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Post Post #10914 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:08 pm

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In post 10701, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 10695, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 10652, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 10637, EspressoPatronum wrote:RC, have you been able to send out any messages?
I sent one, it's about Dave. But I don't get the feedback that the person I sent it to actually gets it. They kinda have to out that info.
Who have you sent letters to so far?
Menalque, bingle, and Gobble.
How come you only have 3 sent letters?
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Post Post #10915 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 10719, pisskop wrote:
In post 10717, pisskop wrote:ep
tse
ceph
ml
gams
ebwop. i swapped it last minute
Did you ever say the results for these? I forget. I also did a quick ISO skim and didn't see it.

In any case, can you direct me to where you said this +/ do so now?
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Post Post #10916 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 10912, Almost50 wrote:'nough said. Gobble was culted last night I'm dead certain.
You’re dead wrong. I also do not trust you after you dayvigged Bingle for
one
post in Grand Idea UPick.
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Post Post #10917 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:10 pm

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In post 10914, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 10701, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 10695, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 10652, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 10637, EspressoPatronum wrote:RC, have you been able to send out any messages?
I sent one, it's about Dave. But I don't get the feedback that the person I sent it to actually gets it. They kinda have to out that info.
Who have you sent letters to so far?
Menalque, bingle, and Gobble.
How come you only have 3 sent letters?
Two flavour-confirmed roleblocks.
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Post Post #10918 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:24 pm

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There’s 5 nights so far, why doesn’t he have 5 targets though?
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Post Post #10919 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:57 pm

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Mmk full discretion there's been a lot of lying out of me and only some of it really came into fruition. I don't have a daycop and I've been holding onto that claim because it compromises Rauths check on Bingle who I strongly think is town. I also still think Rauth is town.

The plan was to claim I can't daycop another target if the previous target is alive (That's where you guys are all getting that I "want Rauth to die").

The messenger part is confirmable. I have a second ability used n2. I used a 1 shot lightning rod that somehow failed. Confirmed by the fact I wasn't culted and bb returned a flavor check that was not mine. Idk if roleblock takes precedent over lightningrod if I wasn't the original roleblock target but yeah.

Night 4 I just forgot to send an action. I couldn't multitask n4.

Also bingle is not cult and if scum has to be scum with rauth. Highly doubting.
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Post Post #10920 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:57 pm

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I mean couldn't multitask n2.
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Post Post #10921 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:59 pm

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Why does a Baroness get to lightning rod?
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Post Post #10922 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:59 pm

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Bingle, what did your message say?
RCEnigma, who did you send the message about when you sent it to Bingle?
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Post Post #10923 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:00 pm

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Fonz.
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Post Post #10924 (ISO) » Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:02 pm

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So you used lightning rod AND messenger to Bingle on N2?
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