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[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

Yeah but I think Gob is a at worst, not a good lynch candidate.

Mastina said her role implies Votato's role is bullshit

-Calvin

[Dunnstral]

Upon further review I'd prefer to lynch Votato over Mastina

[farside22]

How would I look good from it?

And where did I ever say you called him town?

You are blatantly misrepping.

I specifically stated you went to votato after Dunn wagon was picking up.

You also stated when Bird votes start going.

Birds is the current top wagon.

You are actively caught out fabricating and faking stuff

Your entire big wall quote is 100% irrelevant and pointless and does nothing to comment on what actually was said, you just made a defense against stuff that wasn’t even thrown at you because you felt the need to defend yourself.


Lynch Farside

Lets talk facts over fiction. I asked at least 2 times why keep a player alive based on the claim. Even if proven how does that equal town?
I also asked beside the claim why your defending votato.
Second im scum reading bird and votato the strongest. They both voted dunn. Why would i join a wagon 2 players im scum reading are voting.
Finally, you presented no case just a lot of whiny about moving my vote on someone ive stated many times im scum reading.
So your points are all moot.

That’s what I’ve been talking.

A mechanical god even stated that there’s no reason to go Votato today.

Why would I need any other reason to defend him? People act like that’s not enough for a Day 1 defense. It completely is, and I don’t feel like he makes that claim up.

You misrepped. I don’t need a strong case, i need to warrant agenda, which you did.

You’ve lied. You effectively stated you would go birds if more votes were there, well with your vote, you’d have made them the leading wagon, so that was a mixed response


You acting like I’m stating nothing is just plain wrong.

Not all the points might be reasons to go for.

Also, if you say I’m pushing something fictious, why aren’t you pushing it as scum, because town has no reason to push something as fiction. You are using that as an excuse to try and discredit my case, not push me, which is a scum indicative push.


As town, I very much believe in my push, and sure, I wasn’t like dead set on you being scum, this is day 1, but I feel like there’s enough there to have merit in the push, and to believe what I am pushing in, so regardless if I was wrong about your alignment, the merit of the push itself is genuine, just the wrong conclusion would be there. However, in its stead, you choose to discredit, which only benefits ScumFarside.

A FUCKING ROLE IN THE GAME DOES NOT MAKE THAT PLAYER TOWN!!!

Like do I need to say that over and over again or does the caps do it for you. Why the fuck does it mater?
You continue to ignore that question repeatedly. I don't know who your alt is but I swear this will be the last game I play with someone like you regardless of alignment.

Anyway, thanks Votato
I needed half of the living playerlist so I can either make my own or lynch someone who hasn't made one

Is this why you think I'm scum? Because your case doesn't make me scummy at all.

Because Farside/Dunnstral contains 1-2 scum and Votato/Mastina contains 0 scum

Why do you think the above is true?


I have a feeling in 5 hours I won't get a response I see lazy wagon going on Dunn.


I need to iso mastina

[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

Case for Votato, Dunn?

-Calvin

[farside22]

Upon further review I'd prefer to lynch Votato over Mastina

You would have to write up a case. No one seems to read my post other then ooooo she is tunnel she must be scum.

Even votato knows that is part of my way.

[farside22]

mastina if you are around I'm curing what your town to scum list is. You haven't produced on this game.

[Dunnstral]

The only thing I disliked from Mastina was the last post that I pointed out, but I disliked it a lot.

Case for Votato, Dunn?

-Calvin

I don't like his push on me, farside, blatant scum

[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

Point to me how they're scum pushes and not town pushes.

What did you *like* from Mastina?

-Calvin

[Dunnstral]

farside22
mastina
chemist1422
votato
Clover Ebi
Dunnstral
Dr Easy Bake
Creature

Are you human or miller? Claim now or you will get lynched later.

I'm neither

[Dunnstral]

April Ludgate - has janitor ability

If I wasn't voting votato this is where I'd probably vote tho.

Mastina added to scum list.

For what? Not believing a claim that's obviously bullshit?

It's not bullshit. How and why does anyone come up with this as a claim if they didn't get it as their role PM?

Because it's a Krazy game. That's how and why.

Krazy's safeclaims are woefully inadequate for a scumteam and encourage bullshit and this reeks of being precisely that sort of bullshit, the bullshit of someone who doesn't have a real safeclaim so improvised one from scratch.

Creature scum
-Calvin

Nope! Creature's town, transparently so.

@Bingle, we could ask miller claims to post certain letters of the role who can investigate humans. What do you think?

Doesn't it make sense that scum would prob. have a safeclaim pm of a miller according to what is posted in the set up?

Krazy's safeclaims for scum tend to let scum hang out to dry a little bit. They do prevent a D1 massclaim from outing the scumteam, true enough, but beyond that they don't give the scum that level of safety, so. Scum probably don't have that information unless it's an actual part of their real role.

fine. I'm a town night 1-3 combined janitor-doctor watcher.

uh not exactly sure. From what I gather on the wiki, the janitor would be a scum role. From that plus my role PM I guess my role has something to do with being anti-janitor? I'm not exactly sure how it would work. sorry. i think the watcher ability only activates if im successful, if that helps.

i think being useless is probably correlated with being scum. You all seem to know BS much better than I, and if hes a really good player, then theres probably a method somewhere in the apparent madness. I guess this sort of confusion is why I want to wait before jumping to any conclusions about anyone. ironically, this uncertainty makes me a bit useless, so i guess im confirmed scum.

Yeah I don't see what you do in this claim. I'm pretty sure it's bullshit given my own role, so.
VOTE: Votato

I think these posts look better

[Dunnstral]

Spoiler: Me

maybe calvin and hobbes? if they want the massclaim, they can lead it right?

dunnstral also seems bloodthirsty and wanting claims. I said earlier that i didn't like the way that vote came off.

but its still too early for me to take a firm stand on anyone. im getting a feel for things.

i've repeatedly said i think its a bit early to have solid reads on people. But that said, I don't think the people asking for my reads really care about the reads, and are using them to test me. Here are some thoughts anyway.

PP: posting has been a bit strange. Some of the reactions seem forced, and he seems too eager to put pressure on me/lynch me.
conspire: i think this is where the wagon came from, and while I definitely dont townread conspire the vote wasnt opportunistic, so even if scum, this isnt the scum I'm looking for.
farside: townread her. she seems a bit fence-sitty on the wagon, both defending and attacking me, but i think its her trying to keep an open mind and remain objective. Because of our history, i townread her for that, although i suppose it could just as easily be that she is pretending to keep an open mind as scum.
april: similar to farside, but without any personal history. She gets townpoints for taking the time to read and understand my posts rather than just assume everything questionable is scummy.
dunnstral: this is probably the scummiest. first post in thread: puts someone at L-1. Second post in thread: unvotes, because he isnt "feeling this lynch". I'd say this is a good option for a wagon.
BS: we've been over this previously. the lack of contribution yet wanting to push for claims seems not town-aligned, but other people who know him better seem not to think much of it.
mastina: null
holden: seems the most opportunistic. was a late-comer to the wagon, and suddenly became very aggressive. Not sure how to interpret that alignment-wise.
im sure im missing some people here, but i went back through quite a lot of pages looking for votes.

Am I the only one who doesnt think much of Dr. Easy Bake's catch-up?

[the extent of dunnstral's remotely content posts]

Rvs vote

VOTE: votato

L-1, please claim

UNVOTE: Votato

Not really feeling this lynch. Also I think 830 is a post town makes more than scum do.

I like Cālvin and Hobbes

VOTE: Blatant Scum

^That vote is weirding me out

Why would town have janitor abilities?

no one else thinks that this ISO is worth wagoning? an "RVS vote" trying to get a claim, an unvote immediately following the claim because he suddenly "isnt feeling the lynch," then another vote without reason. 838 is a legit question i guess. then 1028 contradicts his unvote.

[the extent of dunnstral's remotely content posts]

Rvs vote

VOTE: votato

L-1, please claim

UNVOTE: Votato

Not really feeling this lynch. Also I think 830 is a post town makes more than scum do.

I like Cālvin and Hobbes

VOTE: Blatant Scum

^That vote is weirding me out

Why would town have janitor abilities?

no one else thinks that this ISO is worth wagoning? an "RVS vote" trying to get a claim, an unvote immediately following the claim because he suddenly "isnt feeling the lynch," then another vote without reason. 838 is a legit question i guess. then 1028 contradicts his unvote.

I'll ask you again, what changed from your interpretation of Dunns unvote in your reads list since the BS vote came after that read list?

Why are you presenting Dunn as this hidden gem nobody has noticed when people like Farside has brought up them before?

the null read was based on me being not confident and looking at the posts in the context of the thread on that page. the scum read was me going back and looking over dunn's iso. maybe we should be listening to farside. no one is.

am i missing something? why is chemist scum?

His reason for scumreading me keeps changing. I'm too bloodythirsty, but then I'm scum for not wanting the lynch, but then I'm scum because I haven't posted a lot, but then I'm scum because we should be listening to farside, until it's time to vote farside

Spoiler: Farside

why farside? i feel like theres actually content there, and i see it coming from a pro-town mindset. most of the reads i disagree with i just feel like there isnt much content, but that one stands out.

I have some stronger town reads. My top scum reads are PP (waiting for confirmation), dunn, and BS. Still a whole lot of people I'm having trouble figuring out. jjh and birds are my strongest townreads.

Oh yeah
UNVOTE: VOTE: Votato

You aren't allowed to not take me up on my offer to explain the PP read awhile ago just to pick it back up pages later and assimilate my reasoning on the slot as your own.

wait what? do you see the several posts i made explaining the PP read? you dont see very early in my iso the back and forth between myself and PP? i feel like this is pretty silly misrep.

*pats unicorn*
Its okay. I feel pretty sure your scum based on a lot of your wishy washy responses.

You are very lucky I'm not feeling doing my best not to tunnel you. But if that vote count turns to you, I will be there so fast.

Votato is this banter from Farside normal given your playing experience with them?

its limited experience, but yeah sure.

i dont see how anyone could be townreading BS. I also dont see how half this game can be this inactive. Apparently there is no way to get momentum for a dunnstral wagon though, so VOTE: farside. This game has too many pages to be this stagnant in terms of wagons. im confused.

It feels to me like you've been wagon hopping to whoever is attracting general thread attention at the moment (BS, then Dunnstral, then farside). Do you agree with that assessment? Which of the three do you think is most likely to flip scum?

-Hobbes

to some extent youre right. I'm OK with pretty much anything that gets us some game progression. Nothing has happened in this game in what - 30 pages? I do think BS is probably more likely to flip scum, but farside is a new wagon, so maybe theres potential for something to happen there.

C&H why do you think these wagons keep stalling? Why is the game so dead?

He doesn't even appear to be scumreading Farside - the opposite in fact, this vote is opportunistic, along with the rest of his content

I get the feeling he's against BS because BS is speaking against Votato's reads.

[Dunnstral]

Personally, I think we should lynch in this list tomorrow. And put focus there. I think scum disappearing at deadline when town can't get a lynch otherwise so they won't be pressured into voting is a very real thing.

What can we lynch today? I'm not going to be here at the very end of the deadline, I'd like to put my vote somewhere other people will vote - And I don't plan on voting myself

[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

I'm cool lynching Votato, actually.

-Calvin

[Dunnstral]

I don't see how we are going to achieve a lynch in 3 hours.

[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

Let's discuss who I vig tonight.

-Calvin

[Dunnstral]

Bingle's read on me is pretty gross.

He's fine voting me because I'm in his poe pool. There's no explanation for why I'm in his poe pool. Page 60+ there's nothing better to do than vote me, apparently.

[Dunnstral]

Let's discuss who I vig tonight. ;)

-Calvin

Conspire is active on site. They're just choosing not to post in this game. Food for thought.

[Dunnstral]

Actually though: Bingle, Clover Ebi, Conspire, Dr Easy Bake, Birds and Boys, April Ludgate, Penguinpower, Votato.

That's my list, there's bound to be a lot of town in it.

[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

Yea, Bingle is scummy af too.
Conspire does sound like a decent target. Since you said they're active on site, if they don't vote I'll take it as a scum claim.

Meanwhile farside at least has 3 votes or something, what do you think about lynching her? Altho I do gut townread her still

-Calvin

[Dunnstral]

I don't want to lynch her. Not a fan of April Ludgate or Votato, not seeing the case - probably because it's based on me being scum, and I'm not.

Unrelated, but also practical thinking: She's active right now, and we'd be hard pressed to secure a lynch even with her voting with us. We need jjh and farside to be vote the same person if we want to lynch today... that's just the practical reality that I'm seeing today. Ideally, It will need to be on somebody with votes already on them. How sure are you that Birds and Boys is town?

[Dunnstral]

Mastina can be our target for the night. I don’t like that it happened right after the Farside-Dunn stuff, but i do feel Mastina has a decent chance of being scum as well.

VOTE: Dunnstral

I think the timing of his Mastina vote makes it enough for me to think he’s trying to get momentum off of him and Farside.

I think the farside/Dunnstral wagons should come together.

Upon further review, Farside only has 2 votes on her, because April abandoned the wagon - the latest votecount is not 100% up to date

[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

I'm sure enough that I don't want to lynch them, based on Gobbles' activity and Gobbles' stance on me.
I don't imagine Gob as scum would say that my scumreading him is a scumclaim, for one

-Calvin

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral(3) Bingle, votato, April Ludgate
Birds and the Boys(3) Conspire, Blatant Scum, Dunnstral
farside22(2) jjh927, Creature
votato(2) mastina, farside22
Blatant Scum(2) Dr Easy Bake, PenguinPower
mastina(1) Calvin and Hobbes
HoldenGolden(1) Birds and the Boys

Dr Easy Bake(1) Clover Ebi


Not Voting (2): chemist1422, HoldenGolden

[jjh927]

I mean, I'm still here and am gonna continue to still be here

[Dunnstral]

chemist/Holden not voting is kind of awkward - I don't scumread them based on gut (and it looks like Holden meant to be back posting by now but got caught up in things)

I don't want to lynch Blatant Scum, because I think they're town

If it's not Birds and the boys, I can only really go for votato, or maybe mastina (probably not over votato though), or maybe Dr Easy Bake (but that's whatever)

VOTE: votato