Newbie 2007: Air [game over!]

[Datisi]

Official Vote Count 1.12

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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

GeorgeBailey

(3): QuantumQuasar, 72offsuit, Poyzin

Quick

(2): NotAJumbleOfNumbers, Marashu

Marashu

(2): GeorgeBailey, LuckyLuciano

Not Voting

(2): teacher, Quick

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-06-02 18:20:00).

Mod notes:

• Searching for a replacement for NotAJumbleOfNumbers.
  
• Be civil.

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[QuantumQuasar]

are you going senile here GB by saying I'm quick

You're kind of frustrating to communicate with, but i'm pretty sure you're town.

You're acting just like you were in Chain of Command before you were flash lynched for not scumhunting.

The only thing missing from you right now is your captain roleplay.

And if you're referring to chain of command, that was because the deadline was really soon, and scum was pushing your lynch. Being scared of Gibus's vote is still irrational.

Second time, you really think I hold grudges when I don't, such shallow thoughtfulness that goes way over and doesn't affect me personally, however you did waste time and that's different from fleeting emotions

[GeorgeBailey]

??? I'm saying you're acting the same way which makes you town. When did I accuse you of holding a grudge?

[Quick]

VOTE: Marashu

This is just an excuse to get the BW on someone besides GB???

[QuantumQuasar]

Do I have to defend a game that's already over and not accurate, what kind of angling and needling is this as the two plus two can relate

Classic hook line and sinker is what's being pulled right now

[Quick]

QQ, would you vote LL at this point if a wagon was there?

[QuantumQuasar]

??? I'm saying you're acting the same way which makes you town. When did I accuse you of holding a grudge?

Correlation does not imply causation.

you are jeopardizing your peers because of your aloof nonchalance from the gravity of your inaction, this is not projection frankly take a look at what you did here besides the fact that you'll get easy retorts and are you just humming in the background thinking we're wallpaper drying for you with enough time? A day isn't seven days.

GeorgeBailey everyone: and I'mmmm righhhttt in the middle of the 7 days exactly where I wanted to . I knew I had a few more days

This isn't all about you but your posts are just super lackluster and don't elicit any reaction that is noteworthy. Maybe you're so sure of yourself and someone else is the hook when you're low key?

[Quick]

VOTE: GB

[QuantumQuasar]

LL/Marashu?

Marashu/LL could be plausible as LL sees Marashu in the clear in spite of lackluster content (possibly the most silent player), when gibus/LL also stood out for being very silent. They wouldn't take the risk of voting together.

Offsuit seems to be town but he isn't aligned with town oddly, more like independent town lean

GB you must be joking did you see your content here with Jumble also getting replaced it's embarrassing if you have your interests and concerns elsewhere by preference just don't offer a sacrificial lamb saying Town would catch up

From your posts you lurked then went deliberately absent it's surprising you're still up as Jumble is also getting replaced

You would have enough time in the 7 day time frame? That's the first time I hear that do you know what it means to do time in a prison cell to speak about time?

Maniac. Then you say don't be too quick

Consider the votes of gibus:

vc1.01
QuantumQuasar (1): gibus

vc1.02
Not Voting (3): Quick, NotAJumbleOfNumbers, gibus

vc1.03
Not Voting (1): gibus

vc1.04
NotAJumbleOfNumbers (2): GeorgeBailey, gibus

vc1.05
NotAJumbleOfNumbers (4): GeorgeBailey, gibus, Poyzin, Marashu

In post 388, Marashu wrote:
Alright, I'm caught up now.

That TL on Poyzin is still present; this is probably my biggest TL right now.
The Poyzin/Quick fight I think is pretty disruptive in trying to read what other people are thinking, because of how much it's dominating the day. The part of 151 that focused on Poyzin was a lot of AtE and didn't really address any of the points in those posts. I can't tell if Quick is antagonizing Poyzin on purpose to generate reactions (the last game I was in had a lot of reaction tests in it from town players), but I really don't think this is SvS, which means that at least one scum is likely taking advantage of this fight.

VOTE: 72offsuit
Voting because of player behaviour and not because of arguments (121 and 131 where the reasoning is because of sarcasm and abrasiveness), which suggests not trying to solve the game
This defense is 100% WIFOM:
In post 201, 72offsuit wrote:
4. Deja vu from last game.
How likely do you think that scum is to chainsaw a scum-buddy with one vote on them in the first 10 pages or so?

Also, 285 - Your own words put it best:
In post 96, 72offsuit wrote:
Explain.
You can't throw out a statement like this without clarifying.

Marashu's not with offsuit.

LL voting Marashu could be a throw off to unvote the last minute (as he didn't speak much and waiting for Jumble the defence would be quite easy)

[LuckyLuciano]

It's not just based on you calling intent.

Okay, then explain how the team is exactly Marsh/me? I think you could very well be Scum for pulling this move and trying to pull the wool over people's eyes by suddenly feeling like you have the Scum team nailed. I still stick by what I said. GB could be Scum here. You ruling that out as a possibility in favor of a Marsh/me team is unfounded.

I think there has to be at least 1 scum between {Marashu, George} based on the Jumble wagon. I think there's likely exactly 1 scum in {Poyzin, Quick} because of how universally the interaction was read at TvT. Marashu + Quick makes the most sense here with (1) Marashu being the only player in the game you treat with respect, and (2) Marashu unvoting you at L-1 with no explanation whatsoever.

I'm most confident individually on you being scum, but I'm also more confident on one player between {Marashu, George} being scum than I am of a player between {Poyzin, Quick} being scum, so I'd still rather lynch within {Marashu, George} today.

[QuantumQuasar]

are you going senile here GB by saying I'm quick

You're kind of frustrating to communicate with, but i'm pretty sure you're town.

You're acting just like you were in Chain of Command before you were flash lynched for not scumhunting.

The only thing missing from you right now is your captain roleplay.

And if you're referring to chain of command, that was because the deadline was really soon, and scum was pushing your lynch. Being scared of Gibus's vote is still irrational.

Second time, you really think I hold grudges when I don't, such shallow thoughtfulness that goes way over and doesn't affect me personally, however you did waste time and that's different from fleeting emotions

GB you were the moderator of that and you mentioned that twice, I didn't say anything the first time but you say that again shows that you are senile, broken record

[GeorgeBailey]

Quantum are you using predictive text to write your posts?

[Quick]

It's not just based on you calling intent.

Okay, then explain how the team is exactly Marsh/me? I think you could very well be Scum for pulling this move and trying to pull the wool over people's eyes by suddenly feeling like you have the Scum team nailed. I still stick by what I said. GB could be Scum here. You ruling that out as a possibility in favor of a Marsh/me team is unfounded.

I think there has to be at least 1 scum between {Marashu, George} based on the Jumble wagon. I think there's likely exactly 1 scum in {Poyzin, Quick} because of how universally the interaction was read at TvT. Marashu + Quick makes the most sense here with (1) Marashu being the only player in the game you treat with respect, and (2) Marashu unvoting you at L-1 with no explanation whatsoever.

I'm most confident individually on you being scum, but I'm also more confident on one player between {Marashu, George} being scum than I am of a player between {Poyzin, Quick} being scum, so I'd still rather lynch within {Marashu, George} today.

Okay, so your solve is Marashu/GB + Poyzin/Quick.

What were you saying before was the team? Why wait till there is intent on GB to give your solve? Why not let the lynch go through on GB given you see Scum equity there? How do you feel on a GB/Quick Team? How did it suddenly switch to Marashu/Quick in such a short time period?

You're not actually answering my questions. You're talking about things completely unrelated to the nature of the question I asked you. That's Scummy.

I still think Poyzin has Scum equity, but you suddenly coming around to the fact that there is Scum in Poyzin/Quick feels super manipulative.

[Quick]

Quantum are you using predictive text to write your posts?

Completely unrelated to the game. Why are you still doing this?

[GeorgeBailey]

He's shitpushing me for the most asinine reasons.

Why are you trying to get me lynched so early?

[QuantumQuasar]

Quantum are you using predictive text to write your posts?

Completely unrelated to the game. Why are you still doing this?

He has his jimmies rustled

I think it's way too early in the game to tell if it's AI at all.

[Quick]

He's shitpushing me for the most asinine reasons.

Why are you trying to get me lynched so early?

It's not that early. You've had a week - day to give something. Like I said, all you've done is give glorified prod dodges. And people are telling ME I am playing bad? At least I am playing, jeez.

[QuantumQuasar]

It's not just based on you calling intent.

Okay, then explain how the team is exactly Marsh/me? I think you could very well be Scum for pulling this move and trying to pull the wool over people's eyes by suddenly feeling like you have the Scum team nailed. I still stick by what I said. GB could be Scum here. You ruling that out as a possibility in favor of a Marsh/me team is unfounded.

I think there has to be at least 1 scum between {Marashu, George} based on the Jumble wagon. I think there's likely exactly 1 scum in {Poyzin, Quick} because of how universally the interaction was read at TvT. Marashu + Quick makes the most sense here with (1) Marashu being the only player in the game you treat with respect, and (2) Marashu unvoting you at L-1 with no explanation whatsoever.

I'm most confident individually on you being scum, but I'm also more confident on one player between {Marashu, George} being scum than I am of a player between {Poyzin, Quick} being scum, so I'd still rather lynch within {Marashu, George} today.

LL as cautious as you are, I disagree with your workaround musical chairs because it turns out that indirectly but openly you won't engage marashu and your vote makes you appear innocent as you latched earlier on me, tell me why marashu is treated with respect?

[QuantumQuasar]

It's not just based on you calling intent.

Okay, then explain how the team is exactly Marsh/me? I think you could very well be Scum for pulling this move and trying to pull the wool over people's eyes by suddenly feeling like you have the Scum team nailed. I still stick by what I said. GB could be Scum here. You ruling that out as a possibility in favor of a Marsh/me team is unfounded.

I think there has to be at least 1 scum between {Marashu, George} based on the Jumble wagon. I think there's likely exactly 1 scum in {Poyzin, Quick} because of how universally the interaction was read at TvT. Marashu + Quick makes the most sense here with (1) Marashu being the only player in the game you treat with respect, and (2) Marashu unvoting you at L-1 with no explanation whatsoever.

I'm most confident individually on you being scum, but I'm also more confident on one player between {Marashu, George} being scum than I am of a player between {Poyzin, Quick} being scum, so I'd still rather lynch within {Marashu, George} today.

"(1) Marashu being the only player in the game you treat with respect, and (2) Marashu unvoting you at L-1 with no explanation whatsoever."

@LuckyLuciano What's this unvote GB then vote Marashu as you expand your pool, how is that not delay tactics by spreading out too thin on purpose

[LuckyLuciano]

Okay, so your solve is Marashu/GB + Poyzin/Quick.

What were you saying before was the team? Why wait till there is intent on GB to give your solve? Why not let the lynch go through on GB given you see Scum equity there? How do you feel on a GB/Quick Team? How did it suddenly switch to Marashu/Quick in such a short time period?

You're not actually answering my questions. You're talking about things completely unrelated to the nature of the question I asked you. That's Scummy.

I still think Poyzin has Scum equity, but you suddenly coming around to the fact that there is Scum in Poyzin/Quick feels super manipulative.

I literally said that my solve was {George, Marashu, 72} in my catch-up post. I said, also, that the sheer amount of players reading Poyzin v Quick as TvT was concerning. I have since thought more on that and have concluded that it makes more sense for Poyzen v Quick to vs TvS given the overwhelming support of the narrative that it is TvT. This is not an unnatural progression. I had mentioned earlier today that Marashu's unvote of you at L-1 was sketchy. Your eagerness to get rid of George when you did nothing to pressure him for activity

before

he hit L-1 was the final trigger causing me to transition from my earlier reads to my current ones.

[QuantumQuasar]

Have you ever considered the possibility LuckyLuciano that you are scum by omitting yourself from your analysis?

Conveniently you made a switcheroo when Quick chimed in knowing that Jumble is absent and in the process of being replaced that gives enough leg room to allow Marashu to defend himself and gain a couple more hours for traction? You still view GB as suspect yet you remove him at a critical time to redirect attention to someone else on a tangent, you have to set your priorities straight LuckyLuciano!

You only get so many moments of truth in a lifetime

[Quick]

Okay, so your solve is Marashu/GB + Poyzin/Quick.

What were you saying before was the team? Why wait till there is intent on GB to give your solve? Why not let the lynch go through on GB given you see Scum equity there? How do you feel on a GB/Quick Team? How did it suddenly switch to Marashu/Quick in such a short time period?

You're not actually answering my questions. You're talking about things completely unrelated to the nature of the question I asked you. That's Scummy.

I still think Poyzin has Scum equity, but you suddenly coming around to the fact that there is Scum in Poyzin/Quick feels super manipulative.

I literally said that my solve was {George, Marashu, 72} in my catch-up post. I said, also, that the sheer amount of players reading Poyzin v Quick as TvT was concerning. I have since thought more on that and have concluded that it makes more sense for Poyzen v Quick to vs TvS given the overwhelming support of the narrative that it is TvT. This is not an unnatural progression. I had mentioned earlier today that Marashu's unvote of you at L-1 was sketchy. Your eagerness to get rid of George when you did nothing to pressure him for activity

before

he hit L-1 was the final trigger causing me to transition from my earlier reads to my current ones.

You're changing your story left and right here. Popular majority is NOT a real reason to think it's wrong. Scum can give that much and still be in good standing. Now it's you poking your fingers in that thinking it might be SvT.

Marashu's unvote is only Scummy if I am Scum, and I'm not. Didn't you say earlier that you don't like to talk about associations so early in the game? So what gives? You are changing your story again here.

As far as me wanting to get rid of a useless player, that's NAI and you know it.

[QuantumQuasar]

LL: The unvotes on Quick weren't sketchy at all frankly and you're giving way to an overly suspicious outlook

This tradition of pausing L-1 with a D1 that lingers on is dodgy, then call me not a fan of buses

[QuantumQuasar]

QQ, would you vote LL at this point if a wagon was there?

where is teacher now

What's not considered is the change between gibus and LL as that's the same slot because Jumble might have been bait as he was irritated with your posts and that can't be faked

therefore voting jumble for incorrectness is scummy as a byproduct of overthought versus natural resolution and reaction

[Quick]

QQ, would you vote LL at this point if a wagon was there?

where is teacher now

What's not considered is the change between gibus and LL as that's the same slot because Jumble might have been bait as he was irritated with your posts and that can't be faked

therefore voting jumble for incorrectness is scummy as a byproduct of overthought versus natural resolution and reaction

I had/have(?) NAJM as my top TR at one point. I plan to go back and update my notes sometime today.