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Problem is, as endgame approaches, the SK can become a pain in the ass. Can't remember the game of the game but it was a Krazy game where I was scum and Alch was the SK and we all practically knew that he was a SK but we (by we I mean the entire playerlist, scum and town) didn't deal with him until the last minute and it became a huge threat (for both parties). I mean for my team it wasn't that bad keeping him alive 'cause he kept shooting town, but at the end when my team already lost, town had to gambit to win the game against him.
Why not just, getting rid of that alternative?"Your intentions are not defined by how things went, but how things could've gone." (Ball, 2019)- Bingle
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I mean... I really didn't until you made a case I saw as obviously fabricated, and then immediately decided I needed to reevaluate when A) the wagon shot up as fast as it did and B) you further explained your case as being specifically about the Mena case.In post 1473, gobbledygook wrote:In post 1472, Bingle wrote:
You were giving off mild commuter vibes, but I didn't look for any crumbs, no.In post 1319, gobbledygook wrote:I think Bingle saw my other crumbs but still remained on my wagon after even quoting them so I’m suss of him.
And he still pushed this.
So town. So town.
I'm not sure what the scum motivation behind pushing you while you were giving off commuter vibes as opposed to just letting you do your thing is supposed to be, so... :shrug:"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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The argument that actually holds weight? I'm willing to make the high risk high reward play that gobbles here performs similarly to tw in that game where tw shot the entire scumteam as SK.In post 1475, Pink Ball wrote:Problem is, as endgame approaches, the SK can become a pain in the ass. Can't remember the game of the game but it was a Krazy game where I was scum and Alch was the SK and we all practically knew that he was a SK but we (by we I mean the entire playerlist, scum and town) didn't deal with him until the last minute and it became a huge threat (for both parties). I mean for my team it wasn't that bad keeping him alive 'cause he kept shooting town, but at the end when my team already lost, town had to gambit to win the game against him.
Why not just, getting rid of that alternative?
The actual truth of the matter? I like 3p roles a lot and would prefer losing to one over losing to scum. I won't gamethrow, but I will take gambles to give them the edge if they can be justified in my mind.
You're not wrong that 3p can be messy late game. You're not wrong that the extra KPN could bite us hard if gobbles has shit reads. You're not even wrong that if gobbles decides he doesn't want to townside he's a bigger weight than benefit.
I'm just personally inclined to gamble the other way."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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i would be fine with letting gobbles live if he just shoots within a predetermined pool
i don't want him to shoot all over the placeShowHiatus once more.
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i just don't wanna die lmaoI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Bingle
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This is why I'm voting Fire, btw.In post 1364, gobbledygook wrote:Blake what do you think of the wagons that brought me to L-2 and L-1 respectively?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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Don’t be scum next timeIn post 1479, Datisi wrote:i just don't wanna die lmaoStation 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020- Bingle
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Does anyone know if PB would be likely to fake a townslip as scum?
I think the answer is no, but I've spent the last like 4 games we play together mislynching him so I don't really trust myself on that judgment call."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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bongle the chicken is gonna murder me pls helpI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Menalque
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I kinda think he would I just don’t know if he has. He’s done it twice which has given me some doubtsIn post 1482, Bingle wrote:Does anyone know if PB would be likely to fake a townslip as scum?
I think the answer is no, but I've spent the last like 4 games we play together mislynching him so I don't really trust myself on that judgment call."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- gobbledygook
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Is this EnglishIn post 1484, Menalque wrote:
I kinda think he would I just don’t know if he has. He’s done it twice which has given me some doubtsIn post 1482, Bingle wrote:Does anyone know if PB would be likely to fake a townslip as scum?
I think the answer is no, but I've spent the last like 4 games we play together mislynching him so I don't really trust myself on that judgment call.Station 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020- Bingle
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"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
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Mena is pointing out that the townslip I'm talking about has been repeated.In post 1485, gobbledygook wrote:
Is this EnglishIn post 1484, Menalque wrote:
I kinda think he would I just don’t know if he has. He’s done it twice which has given me some doubtsIn post 1482, Bingle wrote:Does anyone know if PB would be likely to fake a townslip as scum?
I think the answer is no, but I've spent the last like 4 games we play together mislynching him so I don't really trust myself on that judgment call.
It's not like it's not obvious or anything, but scum PB would know that scum can't actually determine if there's an SK but his post
implies a lack of that knowledge. My gut response is that PB wouldn't do something like that, but it's actually crazy easy to fake and I wanted input from people who know him better.In post 1299, Pink Ball wrote:@mena about the setup, we first flip gobble, then we discuss it. Scum has more info about the setup so they could know that SK is a safe claim. I mean no one's going to counter, but they could be caught in the future if the allegedly real SK flips"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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Now is that a town slip for Pb and not just a Pb thing? He didn’t understand mechanics in the other mechanic games I played with him. Seems naiStation 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020- Menalque
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If this isn’t just riffing why do you think dats is scum anyway?In post 1481, gobbledygook wrote:
Don’t be scum next timeIn post 1479, Datisi wrote:i just don't wanna die lmao"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- gobbledygook
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It’s riffing but datisi’s play leaves a lot to be desired. I’m townreading datisi but not because of their play.Station 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020- Bingle
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+1. That's what I wanted people's opinions on.In post 1488, gobbledygook wrote:Now is that a town slip for Pb and not just a Pb thing?
If it's a PB thing and he's not likely to fake a townslip, it also means we can make a few assumptions about his potential scumpartners (that they're not the type to mastermind/talk mechanics in the scum PT.) I think that would slightly reduce the chance of PB scum with SS and Maria and more solidly reduce the chance of PB scum with Mena/skitter."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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MariaR said she doesn’t understand the setup thoughStation 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020- Menalque
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But you try harder as scum...In post 1495, Menalque wrote:If I’d rolled scum in my first game back I wouldn’t be trying this hardStation 13, is now taking pre-ins! Coming June 2020- Pink Ball
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Also, Ponk Ball fact #2:
I wouldn't fake a town slip as scum. I play as natural as I can as scum 'cause people tend to townread me when I'm playing all natural. Faking a town slip would involve lying about something I know. I could, however, town slip as scum without the intention."Your intentions are not defined by how things went, but how things could've gone." (Ball, 2019)- Firebringer
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60 pages and it feels like we are nowhere near close to a lynch. This gonna be a 100 page day one?Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
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