I do apologize for a reduced presence. I am suffering from some ailment of the mind and require rest to recover.
I can still contribute with this;
VOTE: Servant Foreigner
As previously stated, they are the most corrupt slot in the game with the highest chance of removing corruption from the elimination.
Discrediting would be rather difficult for me to do, given that the act of discrediting is inherently an act of corruption.
In post 605, Servant Berserker wrote:Yeah, her simultaneously being aware and unaware of what's going on in recent times seems too convenient for me. Good catch.
While I am aware of this scumtell and am a user of it myself to hunt the corrupt, it is subject to meta of the individual as there are players who display that behavior even when pure of heart. Though I am not certain, my first guess for
Servant Shielder
's identity was that they were among the players to display this behavior regardless of alignment.
In post 607, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Read some ISOs because I'm bored and restless. A bit leery of the scumreads being expressed on Rider. That feels like a slot scum would see as low hanging fruit.
A slot appearing as 'low hanging fruit' does not mean the slot cannot be corrupt. I realize my read on
Servant Rider
is comparatively weak and largely based on process of elimination from the slots I believe are pure of heart, but I do in fact not see goodness within them.
In a 14-player game with 4 scum, even with the benefits of a conftown D1, double-elimination D1, and the conftown being immune to death prior to N2, I would expect the gathered servants of justice to need considerably more strength than normal. This game is almost a mini but with 4 scum instead of 3.
As such, I buy the claim of the individuals involved being pure of heart. We need every advantage possible to offset the extra corrupt individual. After all, just because we have two possible eliminations on D1 does not mean we hit corrupt individuals. What good does the double-elimination D1 do us if we hit good individuals twice with it? Assuming the corruption's kill goes through, that leaves us on D2 with a 7v4 situation, and potentially 5v4 on D3. Given the delay in activating our noble phantasms, in the worst case scenario, the gathered servants of justice need advantages beyond our ultimate power and the master mechanic.
In post 636, Servant Berserker wrote:I’ve been coming around to the thought that Saber might be scum but would appreciate a case from those scumreading them.
My plan is to do this after a
Servant Foreigner
elimination. My first effort is on eliminating the guaranteed corrupt before focusing on the probably corrupt. I do not wish to divide our attention between two different individuals and end up with us eliminating neither.
In post 663, Servant Lancer wrote:What is it about this town/game/slot that made you think Rider could be POE-scum and not LHF?
1: What makes you think the ideas of 'poe-scum' and 'player who is LHF' are mutually exclusive? Nothing about those two terms means they cannot overlap; players who are traditionally low-hanging fruit can still end up corrupt.
2: The presence of a rather large number of players who have fairly strong reasons to be pure of heart. If the majority of the gathered servants of justice have good reason to be pure of heart, the chances of those outside the group being corrupt are disproportionately higher.
In post 654, Servant Lancer wrote:1) Ruler put rider in her preferred-elim pile as a “throwaway,” claiming that the only elim she actually wants is foreigner’s and rider is just there to fill the spot.
That is correct.
I am aware there are four corrupt slots and I am only truly seeing signs of corruption from three. (
Servants Foreigner, Saber, and Rider
.) Of them, I wished to give some time to further reflect on
Servant Saber
at the time, thus the stated second preference on
Servant Rider
, who I admit is not so much a read I see as corrupt (there are possible signs but they are all weak) so much as a read where I simply do not see anything from them indicating them to be pure of heart.
I am aware this means I am writing off too many players as good. (I shall elaborate on this shortly.)
However, for D1, having too many townreads is better than the inverse, especially with a double-elimination, as I do not think it an issue as long as I have at least two names to eliminate today. Eliminate the players outside the initially-too-wide pure-of-heart player pool today, then reevaluate on D2 to see which of the players I initially placed there to see who does not belong.
I believe it is time for me to give a better separation of my reads:
Above Reproach/Absolutely Pure of Heart
:
Servant Beast*
,
Servant Shielder*
,
Servant Berserker*
Servant Archer:
I am absolutely sure that this is
Servant Archer
as pure of heart. As one of the only servants whose identities I feel fairly confident on, he is one of the few I can back my already-existing pure of heart read on with meta.
Servant Archer
's posts are strongly good, but there are players who can appear that way while corrupt; knowing
Servant Archer
's identity leads me to believe this is beyond the range of their abilities as a corrupt individual and thus, they are my strongest pure of heart read.
*Role-based
Above Reproach
For a Few Phases
/Very Highly Likely Pure of Heart
:
Servants Caster, Lancer:
My feelings on both of these slots is similar. Both are as strongly showing their pure of heartness as
Servant Archer
and the only thing keeping them from joining his ranks is that I know not their identities and it is possible the reasons I am reading them as good are things they are capable of when corrupt. Lacking knowing their identities, they are the strongest possible pure-of-heart read I can have.
Above Reproach
Today
/Highly Likely Pure of Heart
:
Servant Alter Ego:
I almost placed
Servant Alter Ego
in the same tier as
Servants Caster and Lancer
, however, intuition gave me some reserves about them in comparison. Whereas I feel
Servants Caster and Lancer
cannot realistically be corrupt, I could not say the same in my own heart about
Servant Alter Ego
, but I feel bad about this, as
Servant Alter Ego
has been strongly pure of heart in their posting.
Would Prefer not to Eliminate
Today
/Likely Pure of Heart
:
Servant Assassin:
I feel their posting has been reasonably pure of heart, indicating they are more likely good than not, but it is not nearly to the extent of my other reads. They have a few things going for them, but are not the clearly town levels of the above. Their claim could be a gamemaster-provided safeclaim, but I am also inclined to believe the claim.
Servant Moon Cancer:
Though my heart of heart tells me deep in my intuition that they are very strongly pure of heart, I realize I have not much to objectify my read here beyond disagreeing with the strong distaste of the slot. I do not think
Servant Moon Cancer
's contributions indicate they are corrupt, but I have little to substantiate this claim.
Servant Avenger:
Their claim is neither good nor evil to me as I can see either alignment making it. Their contributions have been decent, and I admit that they share many of my takes so unless they are bussing they are less likely to be partnered with those I have fingered as corrupt, but in spite of this, I cannot find myself actually locking them down as pure of heart; I am struggling to read them as anything.
Secondary Elimination Candidates/Decent Chance of Corruption
:
Servants Saber, Rider:
See above sections.
Preferred Primary Elimination/Corrupt to the Core
:
Servant Foreigner:
I will need to explain this read further I imagine, and shall do so when able to.
