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[MathBlade]

Since they had no agenda issue the challenge for can’t bus can’t not bus.

Ari seems to be taking the bus side if scum
And House is taking the not bus option if scum

(Not as fleshed out but thoughts ish)

If Frogger flips roleblocker / BP then probably means more House
If Frogger flips more doc or something that doesn’t interact with vig then Ari

[Datisi]

also, not to mention that faulting someone for not being online for 20 minutes when they were the one that originally cut that time short is. lol.

Dats,

I'm watching the last episode of OreGairu and it's sooo good.

Hope you have a great Saturday <3

it is supposed to be a working one, but we'll see. thank you <3

[MathBlade]

My biggest concern Frogger town will mean a reread over night.

I don’t think Frogger is as no one has given a reason Frogger is town which means the elim has been decided long before I did a lot of things. Kinda maybe points to Ari?

Not sure.

I want to see what he flips.

[Frogsterking]

math, how did you go from thinking i am 100% a scumfuck to not even including me in solves?

math, how did you go from thinking i am 100% a scumfuck to not even including me in solves?

It was more a gradual progression.
I started trying to figure out who your buddy would be but then realized no matter how I sliced it I was trying to force a round peg in a square hole so either I had a major key element in the game state wrong or you wrong.

So I issued a challenge to you/Ari/House to take charge since you all townread each other.

No one really did which told me that either they weren’t comfortable in their reads or scum without a planned narrative/agenda yet. Everyone wanted Frog and Andres which means likely only one of them was scum.

Then the rest from there.

Dats,

I'm watching the last episode of OreGairu and it's sooo good.

Hope you have a great Saturday <3

Here Datisi has joined the thread so he and Ari can take advantage of our resident Village Idiot, Math, and 3v1 me to derail the discussion AGAIN away from the scummy behavior their slots keep exhibiting.

This is the type of content they are attempting to stall me from revealing to the game thread:

While Ari sits there and repeats variations of "utter nonsense" and buddying Math, I'm going to start with the post numbers from my notes showing that Ari has bloated the thread of D3 tremendously with scum BS and shaded Math, House and I for it, repeatedly shaded Math, House and I for the quicklim of D2, downplaying her and Datisi's own role and absence when skitter was insisting that Ari could meta read her, and that Ari is intentionally derailing the thread discussion to protect her slot and Datisi from pushes.

Here are all the posts, I found in like 10 minutes, not even a complete iso from D3, of Ari's iso where she SHADES the fuck out of Math and excessively bloats the thread increasing the noise of the discussion with absolutely 0 attempts at scumhunting or game solving or sorting any slots:

2588, 2578, 2579, 2582, 2585, 2582,2641, 2731, 2732, 2833, 2836, 2838, 3089 (where she lies and is evasive about being consistent and forthright about her reads and the general content of the posts she has been making), 3176 (Ari's follow up on her intent in this post is surface level and none of the reasons appear legitimate aside from D2 wagon she constantly mentions), 3177 (her vote on me), 2843, 2846, 2850, 2856, 2859, 2862, 2866, 2869 (contradicting her other statements about the mechanics of the setup and her other statements on andres slot.)

Here's a visual on what some of these posts look like:

I refuse to believe Datisi can be scum here and if I'm wrong you can make fun of me in the postgame for being an idiot.

Everything Mathblade has said makes my skin crawl but I also don't want to vote for someone who might actually be a mech-clear

I want to hear more from Andres / IV.

I want Frogster/Mathblade to stop foaming at the mouth to end this day as fast as possible.

i actually hate math's posts so much that i am trying to think of any possible combination of someone fakeclaiming vt or wondering if math can be ascetic or some nonsense like that

same.

I think if we want to mail it home based on a mech~clear for MB/IV/SS.

I'd bet on Datisi/House being both town and just going for that win.

Sometimes I am wrong so Skitter has to die for voting a clear. I don’t regret it but I do it every time as it’s necessary.

this is borderline insanity

Why are you wasting this energy on me and not Frog?

because I would feel violently sick if I actually lost to scum!you here and you're not making me feel good about your towniness.

I really have trouble seeing how a sane town player can think "oh somebody voted for me when I'm an investigated inno so they have to die" Like it's just ugh so gross.

Like you keep trying to reduce this to something it's not and it's just kind of gross

Why aren’t you looking for scum on the D1 wagon? Who am I scum with to you in that world? (I mean I am not but…)

I already posted who I thought the scum are if You/IV/SS are all town

i actually hate math's posts so much that i am trying to think of any possible combination of someone fakeclaiming vt or wondering if math can be ascetic or some nonsense like that

same.

I think if we want to mail it home based on a mech~clear for MB/IV/SS.

I'd bet on Datisi/House being both town and just going for that win.

That win or that solve ??

I mean if we bet it on killing ari - frog - andres in some order I would be ok with that.

If we lose to scum iv or mathblade I'd feel gross.

if we lose to scum datisi or house I'd be impressed with their play.

Above here more mindless empty posts about how gross mathblade is and no attempt to sort Datisi slot. There is no reason to believe at this point in time she supports an andres or frog wagon for any reason other than easy pushes.

You’re arguing frustrations versus who is scum.

You have your right to be frustrated with me.

We don’t see mafia eye to eye.

So what are you going to do about it?

Policy me for seeing the game differently

Or are you going to hunt scum?

I have already stated who I think the scum are in the world where you/IV/SS are all town.

I do not need to go back and "hunt" again.

I am talking to you because I want to get to a place where I am comfortable letting you/IV/SS all be mech-clear and your answers are just awful.

Why aren’t you looking for scum on the D1 wagon? Who am I scum with to you in that world? (I mean I am not but…)

I already posted who I thought the scum are if You/IV/SS are all town

And the reason you are wasting time trying to chastise me instead of finding the scum where you know at least one has to be like I told you all of D2 is…..?

Yes let me go back and try to find the scum I have already posted

you make a lot of sense mathblade.

More mindless shading of mathblade above.

Ari still isn’t voting and so I am guessing she doesn’t like the dilemma.

I have said this multiple times, I would like to give IV/Andres the chance to catch up and post their thoughts about the game.

We have many days and 90% of the posting is frog/dats/house/me/math and the other three just don't get to post as much because of time constraints etc.

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that we wait a bit to them more involved.

Ari pretends like she cares about allowing andres and innocentvillager an easy chance to get into the game, contradicting all of her empty posts she is constantly flooding the game thread with.

The other option is that it’s reversed and you’re town and Andres is scum which is even worse for her

Why can't I be town and just genuinely be confused about the issue?

Do you think it's impossible for town me to be conflicted and want to take my time?

The other question:
Yes it’s fair to what to take your time but you should still have overall thoughts or pushes. You’re way too sideliney

I do have thoughts. They are in my posts. You can read them.

If it's not clear to you, you can always ask me what my thoughts on anything are.

An example of Ari being cagey and evasive about her reads, contradicting the massive influx of posts where she does nothing to clarify her PoE or why any of the players are placed where they are.

[MathBlade]

I guess in short is it possible Datisi Frogger, sure?

But I don’t see it and if Frogger is scum I likely won’t be alive to make that call if both House and Ari are wrong.

[Aristeia]

Well if frogger is scum with datisi you will be alive at elo to make the decision mb

[Datisi]

My biggest concern Frogger town will mean a reread over night.

I don’t think Frogger is as no one has given a reason Frogger is town which means the elim has been decided long before I did a lot of things. Kinda maybe points to Ari?

Not sure.

I want to see what he flips.

my issue is that i can't tell between "nobody is defending him, so scum don't want to stop the town wagon" and "nobody is defending him, the last scum doesn't want to look like shit on his flip".

and also that otherwise i have no clue who else is supposed to be scum in this game. but yeah. we'll burn that bridge when we get to it, i guess.

[Aristeia]

house is kind of defending frogster no?

[Datisi]

downplaying her and Datisi's own role and absence when skitter was insisting that Ari could meta read he

i stopped reading here because giving someone shit for not being awake at 20 minutes at 5am is something only scum does.

[MathBlade]

My biggest concern Frogger town will mean a reread over night.

I don’t think Frogger is as no one has given a reason Frogger is town which means the elim has been decided long before I did a lot of things. Kinda maybe points to Ari?

Not sure.

I want to see what he flips.

my issue is that i can't tell between "nobody is defending him, so scum don't want to stop the town wagon" and "nobody is defending him, the last scum doesn't want to look like shit on his flip".

and also that otherwise i have no clue who else is supposed to be scum in this game. but yeah. we'll burn that bridge when we get to it, i guess.

Well if frogger is scum with datisi you will be alive at elo to make the decision mb

Unlikely.

Assuming Frogger scum dies tonight
Then for simplicity assume SS can’t shoot or RB
Then we have one of SS (more likely) or IV dies

Then SS/IV + me => Town block
Vs PoE (Ari/Datisi/House/Andres)

Assume a miselim in Ari/Datisi/House/Andres.
Night comes IV dies.
This leaves me + PoE of three.
Unless I am absolutely certain I no elim there and force it.
I haven’t always had the best track record.

If Frogger is scum then I work with the remainder SS/IV on a solve.

[MathBlade]

house is kind of defending frogster no?

Nah he’s being stubborn and doesn’t want Frog because I scumread him.

[MathBlade]

My biggest concern Frogger town will mean a reread over night.

I don’t think Frogger is as no one has given a reason Frogger is town which means the elim has been decided long before I did a lot of things. Kinda maybe points to Ari?

Not sure.

I want to see what he flips.

my issue is that i can't tell between "nobody is defending him, so scum don't want to stop the town wagon" and "nobody is defending him, the last scum doesn't want to look like shit on his flip".

and also that otherwise i have no clue who else is supposed to be scum in this game. but yeah. we'll burn that bridge when we get to it, i guess.

I think between you House and Ari the three of you know each other too well to all three be stumped with I dunno.

[Datisi]

house and i have one completed game together, and i don't remember the two of them ever playing together (so if they did, likely not much) so what gives the impression we know each other too well?

[MathBlade]

house and i have one completed game together, and i don't remember the two of them ever playing together (so if they did, likely not much) so what gives the impression we know each other too well?

Because I think you’re so and so and so and so has played with House a lot. And leaving it at so and so to avoid outing. You may not use meta to avoid outing your alt but I would expect a read of some sort.

You and Ari flirt a lot so some personal connection there.

[Aristeia]

Dats do you think you would know if I am mafia?

[Datisi]

Because I think you’re so and so and so and so has played with House a lot.

gonna have to disappoint, sorry. that one game where house replaced in is the only completed game i have played with him across any and all of my accounts.

[MathBlade]

Take me and Titus for example
We don’t always read each other the best
But we do eventually have opinions

The whole crew has just been a bit too “meh” for my tastes

[Datisi]

Dats do you think you would know if I am mafia?

i actually... don't think i would.

[MathBlade]

Because I think you’re so and so and so and so has played with House a lot.

gonna have to disappoint, sorry. that one game where house replaced in is the only completed game i have played with him across any and all of my accounts.

Interesting then (redacted) was incorrect when they said you where (so and so)
Fun. Unless I am also misremembering games at 2am

Everyone knows memories are perfect then /s

[MathBlade]

Because I think you’re so and so and so and so has played with House a lot.

gonna have to disappoint, sorry. that one game where house replaced in is the only completed game i have played with him across any and all of my accounts.

Interesting then (redacted) was incorrect when they said you were (so and so)
Fun. Unless I am also misremembering games at 2am

Everyone knows memories are perfect then /s

Ebwop grammar errors annoy me

[Aristeia]

Dats do you think you would know if I am mafia?

i actually... don't think i would.

I hope you will someday <3

[Frogsterking]

I guess in short is it possible Datisi Frogger, sure?

But I don’t see it and if Frogger is scum I likely won’t be alive to make that call if both House and Ari are wrong.

Well if frogger is scum with datisi you will be alive at elo to make the decision mb

My biggest concern Frogger town will mean a reread over night.

I don’t think Frogger is as no one has given a reason Frogger is town which means the elim has been decided long before I did a lot of things. Kinda maybe points to Ari?

Not sure.

I want to see what he flips.

my issue is that i can't tell between "nobody is defending him, so scum don't want to stop the town wagon" and "nobody is defending him, the last scum doesn't want to look like shit on his flip".

and also that otherwise i have no clue who else is supposed to be scum in this game. but yeah. we'll burn that bridge when we get to it, i guess.

Ari and Math and Datisi continue to spam the game thread 3 v 1, attempting to prevent me from showing the scumplay of the Ari and Datisi slot.

In addition to the posts I pointed out in 3478, here are further attempts of Ari to add as much noise and spread as much blame around the thread as she possibly can:

Examples of Ari attempting to derail discussion that can lead to successful pushes, and shifting accountability for the thread spam away from herself: 2916, 2920, 2969, 3081 (Ari claims that she is 90% not responsible for making the thread more difficult to follow)

Examples of Ari making more blatant spammy shitposts with no pretense of being game related (other than to potentially shift discussion away from herself and Datisi: 3093 (transparent shade post), 3095, 3097, 3099, 3101, 3102

These are reminiscent of her empty shit posts from other days as well: 291, 292, 293, 294, 295, here Ari disappears while I talk to Datisi alone, who attempts to shut down my introduction in the game thread, only for Ari to shortly reappear again in 301.

Here is a visual on what these posts are looking like:

Ari still isn’t voting and so I am guessing she doesn’t like the dilemma.

I have said this multiple times, I would like to give IV/Andres the chance to catch up and post their thoughts about the game.

We have many days and 90% of the posting is frog/dats/house/me/math and the other three just don't get to post as much because of time constraints etc.

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that we wait a bit to them more involved.

Ari shifting the blame away from her responsibility for the thread bloat, pretending she wants to make the thread as easy as possible for innocentvillager and andres to read.

Datisi were you actually sad when you thought I might suspect you?

Here she is shifting the discussion away my attempts to probe the Ari and Datisi slots for information.

This shit continues with Datisi in this series of posts:

mmmm you make me so happy sometimes :<

Sometimes I worry that my emotions compromise my logic but I don't think I have a choice in the matter so mmm I might as well enjoy it?

Spoiler: For Datisi

It snowed a ton last weekend and I had so much fun on Sunday walking around the park. I think my favorite thing to do on snow days is to enjoy a hot coffee and watch all the kids playing, laughing and sledding on the little hills that are scattered throughout the park. I love feeling the crunch of the snow beneath my feet and how everything looks so shiny and pretty when it's covered in a layer of snow. I love exploring the park and finding cute little bridges and hidey nooks - just wandering aimlessly without much stress or worry. I think it would be fun to take a walk with you here and maybe throw a snowball at you when you're not looking. I hope you are having fun wherever you are as well and yes silly of course I am town.

if you think I am focussed on Datisi you haven't even read my posting today

Ari lies about the topic and quality of her posts, her posts are very focused on Datisi and what a great scum game he's playing if he's scum, while shifting any serious attempts to push the slot for information.

We don't even live in the same reality.

I don't know what you're talking about and I think you should probably limit your analysis to games I've actually played.

More mindless shading and gaslighting of Math with no content or information regarding her intended future pushes.

As I'm sitting here writing out scumtells exhibited by the Ari slot, Datisi, Ari and Math have suspiciously banded together and are flooding the thread as quickly as possible with this mindless banter:

My biggest concern Frogger town will mean a reread over night.

I don’t think Frogger is as no one has given a reason Frogger is town which means the elim has been decided long before I did a lot of things. Kinda maybe points to Ari?

Not sure.

I want to see what he flips.

my issue is that i can't tell between "nobody is defending him, so scum don't want to stop the town wagon" and "nobody is defending him, the last scum doesn't want to look like shit on his flip".

and also that otherwise i have no clue who else is supposed to be scum in this game. but yeah. we'll burn that bridge when we get to it, i guess.

Well if frogger is scum with datisi you will be alive at elo to make the decision mb

Unlikely.

Assuming Frogger scum dies tonight
Then for simplicity assume SS can’t shoot or RB
Then we have one of SS (more likely) or IV dies

Then SS/IV + me => Town block
Vs PoE (Ari/Datisi/House/Andres)

Assume a miselim in Ari/Datisi/House/Andres.
Night comes IV dies.
This leaves me + PoE of three.
Unless I am absolutely certain I no elim there and force it.
I haven’t always had the best track record.

If Frogger is scum then I work with the remainder SS/IV on a solve.

My biggest concern Frogger town will mean a reread over night.

I don’t think Frogger is as no one has given a reason Frogger is town which means the elim has been decided long before I did a lot of things. Kinda maybe points to Ari?

Not sure.

I want to see what he flips.

my issue is that i can't tell between "nobody is defending him, so scum don't want to stop the town wagon" and "nobody is defending him, the last scum doesn't want to look like shit on his flip".

and also that otherwise i have no clue who else is supposed to be scum in this game. but yeah. we'll burn that bridge when we get to it, i guess.

I think between you House and Ari the three of you know each other too well to all three be stumped with I dunno.

house and i have one completed game together, and i don't remember the two of them ever playing together (so if they did, likely not much) so what gives the impression we know each other too well?

house and i have one completed game together, and i don't remember the two of them ever playing together (so if they did, likely not much) so what gives the impression we know each other too well?

Because I think you’re so and so and so and so has played with House a lot. And leaving it at so and so to avoid outing. You may not use meta to avoid outing your alt but I would expect a read of some sort.

You and Ari flirt a lot so some personal connection there.

Dats do you think you would know if I am mafia?

Because I think you’re so and so and so and so has played with House a lot.

gonna have to disappoint, sorry. that one game where house replaced in is the only completed game i have played with him across any and all of my accounts.

Take me and Titus for example
We don’t always read each other the best
But we do eventually have opinions

The whole crew has just been a bit too “meh” for my tastes

Dats do you think you would know if I am mafia?

i actually... don't think i would.

Because I think you’re so and so and so and so has played with House a lot.

gonna have to disappoint, sorry. that one game where house replaced in is the only completed game i have played with him across any and all of my accounts.

Interesting then (redacted) was incorrect when they said you where (so and so)
Fun. Unless I am also misremembering games at 2am

Everyone knows memories are perfect then /s

Because I think you’re so and so and so and so has played with House a lot.

gonna have to disappoint, sorry. that one game where house replaced in is the only completed game i have played with him across any and all of my accounts.

Interesting then (redacted) was incorrect when they said you were (so and so)
Fun. Unless I am also misremembering games at 2am

Everyone knows memories are perfect then /s

Ebwop grammar errors annoy me

Dats do you think you would know if I am mafia?

i actually... don't think i would.

I hope you will someday <3

[Frogsterking]

House tl; dr

PLEASE HELP ME I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON BUT ARI, DATS AND MATH APPEAR TO BE TRYING TO SHUT DOWN DISCUSSION IN THE GAME THREAD. I'M MOST SURE ARI IS SCUM SIDED AND A BETTER PLAYER THAN THE OTHERS, HELP ME BOOT HER FIRST.

Phew this is a lot of work, I wish the townies in this game would help me BW these scum shit slots out of the game so town can actually use the thread to communicate.

It appears the chatter bugs Math, Ari and Datisi have scampered away for now, hopefully that is a good sign, and some townie slot bothers to enter the game thread and assist me in booting these fuckers out of here, starting with Ari. I can't tell what is going on and why Math appears to be actively assisting Ari and Dat now, perhaps town executed a miller or something on D1? I need S_S to help me figure out the mech possibilities in light of the chatter bugs behavior.

I got fairly mixed up in my notes, this is a lot of content to produce on my own, but I hope you can see where I'm going with this regarding Ari making it as painful to read the game thread as possible and push the Datisi slot. (REMEMBER EVERYTHING I'M SHARING IS FROM A RELATIVELY BRIEF SECTION OF D3, THERE IS A WHOLE LOT MORE OF THIS SHIT)

I have an entire separate category of Ari's D3 shit posts I haven't even gotten to yet, titled *Ari liek plays for love* and *Ari liek doesnt know Datisi's alignment*. *Ari liek plays for love* ties in with Ari presenting misleading information about her meta, so I'll include those there, but I'll go ahead and list a VERY small sample of the *Ari liek doesnt know Datisi's alignment* D3 noise posts :

2949 (shutting any discussion down that could go toward Datisi), 2955, 2958, 3088, 3095 (shutting me down specifically)

I'm going to take a brief coffee break, and share the links showing where Ari inserts herself into meta discussion to get townread while concealing her own actual meta, OR the links showing how Ari inserts herself into the setup and mech speculation so she can get townread and shade innocentvillagers slot as much as possible, whichever I feel like first, then I'll do the other one.

Meanwhile here's a visual as usual on what some of the *Ari liek doesnt know Datisi's alignment* posts look like:

Datisi can you tell me you are town again?

I don't think I've said I doubted you?

Because I like reading it

It makes me feel warm inside.

i just got a flash of ari flipping red and i didn't like it

ari, can you tell me you're town

I'm town

Datisi were you actually sad when you thought I might suspect you?

Here's a visual on a few posts I grabbed that I wanted to make sure I included:

it means he thinks you see your ability to control the elimination shrinking so instead of solving the game you've decided to take the easiest stance possible for you that does not involve bussing andres.

He thinks it's much harder for you to push either me or house so he is the only option for you to push.

Ari moving the discussion in a scum favored direction in between noise posting.

I kind of agreed with what Andres said about how Frog tried to quicklim IV before IV could even post today being super scummy tho

Ari inserting mindless shade about the same fucking thing in between her noise posting

Well the game has moved extremely fast,

day 2 wrapped in less than 1 real time day and day 3 is at like 2.5 days?

Andres does not have as much real life time as the rest of us to play and he's just always stuck catching up as a result.

Ari gloating here about how difficult she is making it for andres to catch up, and how fast she and her chatter buddies (who appear to be Datisi and Math working as a team) are able to spam the game thread.

Anyway should we quickhammer IV now?

Is there any reason NOT to?

VOTE: innocentvillager

e-1

Town:
Dats, Ari, SS, House, Frog
Edge Case:
Math
Scum:
Andres, IV

This sequence of posts is just incredibly scummy especially in light of IV not having had a chance to post and Frogs just quickhammering a townie the previous day.

In amidst the mindless noise posting, Ari shades this SAME fucking point about the e-1 and skitter wagon, THE SKITTER WAGON DATISI AND ARI STARTED.

I'm not sheeping anyone. I haven't even voted.

Ari lies about her bandwagoning amidst more mindless noise posting and shading. Yes; you guessed it, shortly after this she sheeps Datisi and votes me, leading to her contrived explanation I have yet to get to.

Well, if there are any townsided players left out there, please help!

I'm going for coffee and then continuing into the next sections on my Ari scum case.

[Aristeia]

In amidst the mindless noise posting, Ari shades this SAME fucking point about the e-1 and skitter wagon, THE SKITTER WAGON DATISI AND ARI STARTED.

I was the second vote on skitter

I voted there to apply pressure, sheep dats and have a conversation with skitter about her takes to sort her.

You quick-hammered her before I got to talk with her.

[Datisi]

i remember having a convo with baltar a while back. where he said how, if he were scum facing execution, that he'd spam up the thread with absolute nonsense until the town got sick of him and killed him. i always wondered how that would look.

glad to finally see that happen.