Mini 1349: Words with Scum (Game over!)

[Quilford]

Game Board

Spoiler: DCLXVI's collect

DCLXVI collects tile A6...

Spoiler: Final Board & Activity Log

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MagnaofIllusion flipped tile E5, revealing an R.
Hoopla flipped tile K1, revealing a C.
Voidedmafia flipped tile K6, revealing an X.
Lady Lambdadelta flipped tile D4, revealing an N.
Lady Lambdadelta took tile D4, collecting an N.
Robocopter87 flipped tile J2, revealing a P.
Robocopter87 took tile J2, collecting a P.
IceGuy flipped tile A1, revealing a P.
vijay2vasandani flipped tile C4, revealing an R.
2minds1soul flipped tile H4, revealing a C.
AurorusVox flipped tile A6, revealing a T.
Amrun took tile A2, collecting an unknown...
DLCXVI flipped tile F6, revealing a D.
Amrun flipped tile B2, revealing a V.
Arugula flipped tile D2, revealing an M.
Hoopla took tile E5, collecting an R.
whispersilk flipped tile G2, revealing a Z.
AurorusVox took tile A1, collecting a P.
MagnaofIllusion took tile B2, collecting a V.
Voidedmafia took tile C4, collecting an R.
vijay2vasandani took tile K1, collecting a C.
whispersilk took tile D2, collecting an M.
2minds1soul took tile H4, collecting a C.
Arugula took tile C6, collecting an unknown...
DCLXVI took tile A6, collecting a T.

MagnaofIllusion has used both his daily flip and collect.
Hoopla has used both her daily flip and collect.
AurorusVox has used both his daily flip and collect.
IceGuy has used his daily flip.
Lady Lambdadelta has used both her daily flip and collect.
Arugula has used both his daily flip and collect.
2minds1soul have used both their daily flip and collect.
Robocopter87 has used both his daily flip and collect.
whispersilk has used both her daily flip and collect.
DCLXVI has used both his daily flip and collect.
vijay2vasandani has used both his daily flip and collect.
Amrun has used both her daily flip and collect.
Voidedmafia has used both his daily flip and collect.

Day 1

IceGuy

(4) Arugula, Voidedmafia, MagnaofIllusion, Amrun

whispersilk

(3) 2minds1soul, AurorusVox, Robocopter87

Arugula

(2) DCLXVI, IceGuy

Hoopla

(2) Lady Lambdadelta, vijay2vasandani

DCLXVI

(1) Hoopla

Not Voting

(1) whispersilk

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline hits in (expired on 2012-07-08 11:20:06).

MoI has declared Limited Access during weekends.
Amrun has declared V/LA for over two weeks from Sat, Jun 23, 2012 12:57.44 pm (AEST).
2minds1soul has declared V/LA for a week from Tue, Jun 26, 2012 11:48.04 am (AEST).

[AurorusVox]

Why the fuck aren't you voting me whisper?

[whispersilk]

Shit, I thought I did after I unvoted. Thanks for pointing that out while completely ignoring last post directed at you. Again. It just makes you look more scummy.

VOTE: AurorusVox

[Robocopter87]

I don't like how Robocopter is reacting.

/facepalm

Alright. There is this thing. It's called reasoning. We use it when we wish to describe and support our statements.

Go back, quote me, and use explanation to describe why I am scum.

ICEGUY I THINK YOU'RE TOWN
DONT LET THE BASTARDS GRIND YOU DOWN

Town: AV

Cmon man. You said this like three posts after AV said his. You didn't even make the obvious buddying less obvious.

DCL, what the hell is your problem with me? Did I take a shit on your pillow or something?

I did have a bandwagon going, and EXCUSE ME if I didn't realize that all but one person hopped off. Nonetheless, IceGuy abandoned his case on whispersilk and moved onto someone who others had previously voted: me.

You have been tunneling me this whole game. Literally. After pages of posts, that is all you have to comment on? That is scummy as hell.

You didn't even address Hoopla's vote on you.

Whoa man.

This is pretty vicious towards DCL. Yeah DCL has been doing crap for content (And you were not the first to point this out. i pointed it out and you resaid it multiple posts later.)

It was a ridiculous question to ask him nonetheless. He thinks you are scum. This game is called Mafia. You find Mafia. You kill the Mafia.

However he does need to post more content. But again, this has already been stated.

Sorry about this post, I made a better one like this. Except a lot of crap happened and I lost it. first post I've ever lost, I think. So this is just a quick recreation of it.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Hey Hoopla why are you directly ignoring my questions?

@Robocopter

– can I get a summary on who you think is Town, who you think is scum, and who is somewhere inbetween?

--

patience grasshopper

No your ISO has of late been Active-lurking fodder. The collective patience of Town is wearing thin …

--

I'm not going to answer this right now, but I will get to it before I go to sleep. It's nearly 10pm here. I need to think and re-read before giving you my thoughts. Just letting you know I'm not ignoring this part.

Still waiting for your to provide your list of who is scum off the wagon.

I just realised I missed this. I don't think S is only beneficial to scum. Share and Steal could both be very useful abilities for the town.

I think I’ve already covered this well with Iceguy but S is only possibly beneficial at all to Town is niche scenarios that are not likely to occur. Thus I’m classifying it as a Pro-Scum letter and will continue to do so.

@Whisper

– you aren’t going to get AV to answer you. He’s either scum refusing to answer questions that might make him look bad or playing to his (flawed) Town theory that if he presents a “I’m playing meh” front that he can dodge Nightkills. This point from Post 344 illustrates this –

ICEGuy is town because scum are pushing his lynch (Whiskers, MoI, You)

The entirety of his reads presented here is all based on relational tells. Yet not a single flip has occurred. Its bad presentation and you’ll need to decide if it is coming from scum or Town.

[AurorusVox]

Shit, I thought I did after I unvoted. Thanks for pointing that out while completely ignoring last post directed at you. Again. It just makes you look more scummy.

VOTE: AurorusVox

Of course it does. Just keep telling yourself that.

[IceGuy]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Arugula

Other scum reads: Robocopter
Leaning scum: LLD, Voided
Neutral or need to post more: Amrun, 2m1s, vijay, DCL
Unfortunately probably town: MoI, Hoopla, whisper
Town: AV

Posting to say I fully stand by those reads, and I believe the latest posts of Robo and Arugula confirm them - they definitely read like scum being very annoyed that their mislynch probably won't go through as easily as they hoped.

Collect: F6

[Robocopter87]

@ MOI's request

1. MagnaofIllusion - Nullish-Town
2. Hoopla - Town
3. AurorusVox - Null
4. IceGuy - Null
5. Lady Lambdadelta - Pretty Town
6. Arugula - Null-Scum
7. 2minds1soul - Null (Needs to post moar)
8. Robocopter87 - Obvsexy
9. whispersilk - Scum
10. DCLXVI - Null (Needs to post moar content)
11. vijay2vasandani - Null-scum
12. Amrun - Town
13. Voidedmafia - Town

[Robocopter87]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Arugula

Other scum reads: Robocopter
Leaning scum: LLD, Voided
Neutral or need to post more: Amrun, 2m1s, vijay, DCL
Unfortunately probably town: MoI, Hoopla, whisper
Town: AV

Posting to say I fully stand by those reads, and I believe the latest posts of Robo and Arugula confirm them - they definitely read like scum being very annoyed that their mislynch probably won't go through as easily as they hoped.

Collect: F6

Oh no, I thought your reads were just fine.

Except putting AV into the town category was just curious.

[AurorusVox]

Robo: would you lynch Arugula over Whisper to stop a lynch on ICEguy going through?

[Robocopter87]

Yes.

In fact, I don't know why I'm voting Whisper when Arugula is clearly the scummier of the two.

UNVOTE: Whisper
VOTE: Arugula

[AurorusVox]

Unvote; Vote: Arugula

Very good.

[MagnaofIllusion]

You make a nice case. Well, case that recaps on all the other cases but you linked them together. However, I would like to ask, if you think that out of those three that if it wasn't for those three, you would think Whisper is town. Why did you want Whisper to be the first one to go?

You make a nice case. Well, case that recaps on all the other cases but you linked them together. However, I would like to ask, if you think that out of those three that if it wasn't for those three, you would think Whisper is town. Why did you want Whisper to be the first one to go?

That's a really good point. I'd like to know why too.

Wow. Suck up much?

You are getting worse and worse by the minute.

I'm down for a whipser lynch, Vijay isn't really going anywhere. I'm more willing to put pressure on.

UNVOTE: Vijay
VOTE: Whisper

Um whut? You just finished telling 2for1 that out of his scum list Whisper was the most likely to be Town.

Now you turn around and vote Whisper (who you just said was most likely to be Town of the three) for “buddying” you?

You're not this stupid MoI. You're scum, aren't you? Scum with Whisper?

Damn, bro. Your distancing-vote earlier had me convinced for a while, though the hop off was a little suspicious. But you've given it away here now. Sadface.

Robo: would you lynch Arugula over Whisper to stop a lynch on ICEguy going through?

Yes.

In fact, I don't know why I'm voting Whisper when Arugula is clearly the scummier of the two.

UNVOTE: Whisper
VOTE: Arugula

Someone please read this sequence and tell me if you see what I am seeing ...

[whispersilk]

IceGuy isn't getting lynched. The two town wagons are not going to reach fruition.

I'm not going to answer this right now, but I will get to it before I go to sleep. It's nearly 10pm here. I need to think and re-read before giving you my thoughts. Just letting you know I'm not ignoring this part.

Still waiting for your to provide your list of who is scum off the wagon.

Sorry, I fell asleep and then forgot about this today. Full set of reads incoming.

I just realised I missed this. I don't think S is only beneficial to scum. Share and Steal could both be very useful abilities for the town.

I think I’ve already covered this well with Iceguy but S is only possibly beneficial at all to Town is niche scenarios that are not likely to occur. Thus I’m classifying it as a Pro-Scum letter and will continue to do so.

Fair enough, you're right that it's only useful in the right set of circumstances, but I still don't see it purely pro-scum.

[AurorusVox]

MoI, Robo never said Whisper was the most town of the three. DCLVX said Whisper was the most town of the three and Robo was questioning HIS logic using HIS reads. You trying to say they're Robo's reads when they clearly aren't is what's tipped me off to you being scum.

Putting this out here now because you might NK me

[MagnaofIllusion]

MoI, Robo never said Whisper was the most town of the three. DCLVX said Whisper was the most town of the three and Robo was questioning HIS logic using HIS reads. You trying to say they're Robo's reads when they clearly aren't is what's tipped me off to you being scum.

Well first off Robo was talking to 2Minds so strike one ...

Robo specifically represented that Whisper was the most likely to be Town of 2Mind's three scum reads. Trying to sell that as making his vote on Whisper not scummy as hell isn't going to work. Would you like to try again?

[Robocopter87]

No. 2minds said that Whisper was the towniest of the three. I never said that. I just asked him why he would vote the person he considered the towniest. I never believed Whisper to be the towniest of the three.

Stop misrepping me.

[whispersilk]

@Amrun:

What are your reads on IceGuy and Arugula?

[MagnaofIllusion]

No. 2minds said that Whisper was the towniest of the three. I never said that. I just asked him why he would vote the person he considered the towniest. I never believed Whisper to be the towniest of the three.

Stop misrepping me.

On re-read I see you are correct. My mistake that element is withdrawn.

So here's my next questions -

1. Given you thought Whisper was very scummy why did you question 2mind's vote on them?
2. Why if Whisper is scummy did you move your vote at AV's prodding?

[whispersilk]

@Amrun:

What are your reads on IceGuy and Arugula?

EBWOP: This was mean to be Roocopter and Arugula.

[AurorusVox]

@MoI, how is it a strike one when the meat of the point is correct, even if the name of the player he was talking with isn't?

[Robocopter87]

No. 2minds said that Whisper was the towniest of the three. I never said that. I just asked him why he would vote the person he considered the towniest. I never believed Whisper to be the towniest of the three.

Stop misrepping me.

On re-read I see you are correct. My mistake that element is withdrawn.

So here's my next questions -

1. Given you thought Whisper was very scummy why did you question 2mind's vote on them?
2. Why if Whisper is scummy did you move your vote at AV's prodding?

Mistakes happen. I don't care that much.

1. He contradicted himself, and I wished for him to explain himself. It didn't really have anything to do with Whisper besides the fact that Whisper was the content.
2. Arugula is looking very bad. In my opinion even worse than Whisper. I think Whisper has done a better job defending herself than Arugula. I would rather see Arugula dead than Whisper dead at this point. Thus, I switched my vote.

[Voidedmafia]

Post 381 - Ice, why do you believe I'm scum, again?

Post 385 - But...Robo, you just said Arug was null-scum and Whisper was scum. What changed your mind, or are you just trying to sheep AVox?

Post 396 - Eh, I guess that works, Robo.

I'd be willing to lynch IceGuy or Arug right now.

[AurorusVox]

Arug.

Can you at least refer to who each quote is from VM.

[Voidedmafia]

Can you not read?