Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

[Jake from State Farm]

Mod, IFM hasn't posted since last thursday. isn't he due for a prod?

The current day phase hasn't even been open for 24 hours yet so I don't think he is due for a prod. I can send him a friendly poke if you would like.

[SafetyDance]

In post 756, SafetyDance wrote:I am asking you to be mod-killed based on site-rules about discussion of current games. Fuck your claim.

There is no town motivation for this.

See. This post is where I think SD has to be town.

Well, glad at least one of you is paying attention. Now I see where 756=Zed comes from.

Serious, look at my Zed interaction, he's just posted it so its all easy. Then look at kashoodles, Hiraki and IFM and their vote and interactions. If anyone can come up with a

rational

,

coherent

,

plausible

argument for me bussing over any of them, I will self-vote.

We should kill Bacde.

Brb.

What I was told is it sounds kinda fishy but could be normal.

Absta I love you but yeah you have been so tunneling like mad on Z dude I kinda want to hear from a few others before I hammer...

Jiffy? DGB ?

Fair enough.

Keep an eye on Bacde, SD and kill Kash last. He'll help you kill scum.

Btw, i'm a VT. Sorry for the early claim but this needs to happen.

The problem with you being so confident is, why? If you're just a VT, how do you know for sure?

This is my problem with absta. How can you tell this apart from scatter-gun townie or "knowing" scum?

P-EDIT. This game.

Wait a minute. SD was asking for AP to be modkilled, NOT Xegarus/Zdenek.

Well. That changes a lot of things.

-DGB

Got to this. How does this change your iso of Zed + I?

[SafetyDance]

Who did Rach find town/scum?

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If SD waggon grows i'm gonna have to vote Kash.

@AP - We can kill Bacde then track Kash and win. Unless they kill you. At least you'll know that Kash and Bacde are scum.

More disliked post. Why attempt to rolefish/setup spec a closed game?

Lol ^. If Bacde is scum, then SD is definitely scum.

@Zoid: Ok. I'll keep an open mind when/if I do that reread. But you saying "I could have shot my scum buddy SD", "I could have shot Majiffy because ???", and "I could have shot Bacde" and then saying "But no, I decided to be protown" is ???

None of that proves anything about your alignment - that is just speculation on people you may have killed that aren't RM. And if you were scum, you would have killed SD if he were town. Without a doubt.

I have no idea how you're so sure Bacde and I have to be of the same alignment, so I'm sheeping DZMD's #952

[AngryPidgeon]

I have no idea how you're so sure Bacde and I have to be of the same alignment, so I'm sheeping DZMD's #952

If Bacde is scum, he would have known (I am 100% certain of this) that I was crumbing a hide on you last night. If you were town, he would have killed you.

[SafetyDance]

Right, I think that's me caught up.

Happy to lynch: Majiffy, Kash, IFM, Rev. Haven't decided which is more deserving a vote yet. Pending: Hiraki ~ why is he clear from day one play? Bacde ~ convince me, why is he scum (absta saying so is not a reason)?

Double Aa's need to explain themselves better imo but not the right choice for a lynch, same for DZMD at the moment.

[SafetyDance]

I have no idea how you're so sure Bacde and I have to be of the same alignment, so I'm sheeping DZMD's #952

If Bacde is scum, he would have known (I am 100% certain of this) that I was crumbing a hide on you last night. If you were town, he would have killed you.

Is this another meta-thing? How sure are you that you're not just invoking WIFOM?

[AngryPidgeon]

Is this another meta-thing? How sure are you that you're not just invoking WIFOM?

I am literally 100% certain. Bacde rolled scum in my modded game and correctly guessed that Yates was fakeclaiming Cop as a hider and adjusted his NK accordingly. He confessed that he figured it out partly because I always talk about the time I rolled hider in a game. And he knows its my favorite role and I claimed to have gotten my favorite role. Im entirely certain Bacde saw my crumbs. Maybe he is outplaying me by calling my bluff, but I tend to doubt it. He might be town, but if hes scum then so are you.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

UNVOTE: Meh. I can touch SD's emotions. He's not scum.

"Happy to lynch: Majiffy, Kash, IFM, Rev": this is a most excellent list. Can you share your order of preference and your rationale?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Yates was fakeclaiming Cop as a hider

God that's a stupid strategy, where does this dumbass site meta come from... it needs to DIAF.

[AngryPidgeon]

I will say Kash is someone I might be giving a pass. Intention to ISO Kash. Ugh. That is going to be lame.

It worked well because he managed to sponge the scum NK on a night and conftown a BP role. The only thing is that Bacde figured him out which showed a level of awareness from Bacde that I don't expect from the average player.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

AP, because you think we're scum, I have no confidence at all in your powers of deduction.

Bacde gives me such good feelings.

And SD... he's sounding good to me. His outrage comes from a good place.

-DGB

[AngryPidgeon]

Bacde gives me such good feelings.

Meaning you think hes town? Im not saying hes scum. Im just saying that a Bacde=scum/SD=town scenario has a 0% likelihood. I would drain my bank account and bet on that.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

It worked well because he managed to sponge the scum NK on a night and conftown a BP role.

Yes and you also could get the real cop to CC, and sponge off every good town power into the void of your fakeclaim.

Why would Bacde kill Rach?

-DGB

[AngryPidgeon]

Mmm, ok not entirely, but still. Im fairly confident about that still.

P-edit: It was in a 9p game in which AA9 had already flipped odd-Jailkeeper and there was a claimed 1xBP. It was obvious that there was no cop in the setup as that would have been op as shit for town.

[kashoodles]

Where's Rev?

Re-read a bit of end of D1 and D2 - Hiraki is opportunist as fuck and going with the crowd, except for the Lurker lynch in which he was actively against.

Wanted IFM, doing the "either or" game and ended up voting Zde when he realized no one was agreeing. Then right when absta was getting heat.

Also, Hiraki is town.

How so?

Zoid --

Spoiler:

The scum is in the list below:

Revenus (Deltabacon)
Hiraki
Majiffy (RandomYoshi),(Ms Marangal)
Bacde
IFM (BrightEyedFish)
Kashoodles (JKMatthews)

Zdenek called some players town, some scum, and some weren't mentioned. I am certain that he didn't stuff two buddies in the same category.

Zdenek called only two players town.

Bacde, and us.
We are town, so by POE, Bacde is likely the buddy that calls 'town.'

Zdenek had no comment on three players.

AP, kashoodles, and RachMarie.
AP & RachMarie are town. That leaves kashoodles as a possibility.

Zdenek called scum Marangal/RandomYoshi/Majiffy, Revenus, and Hiraki.

After isos, my best bet on third buddy is RandomYoshi/Majiffy.

Today I would examine Bacde and kashoodles, one of these two players is certainly scum.

I would also examine Marangal/RandomYoshi/Majiffy, Revenus, and Hiraki, one of these three is certainly scum.

-DGB

What? Zde called me scum half of D1. Then he changed his tune and started focusing on SD/absta.

I feel that could go either way but I see your point.

Kasshoodles is my choice for today at that rate.

Unvote, Vote: Kasshoodles

Seriously, Zoid starts mentioning it, absta has been on me for a while so now it's what you've been feeling this whole time? At least absta has been on me since D1. You're being so opportunistic it's ridiculous.

Bacde--

Spoiler:

hey guys,

I'm town. Not feeling the suspicion towards me.

I'm also not feeling the suspicion on SD. This is for a couple reasons:

1) He was the blatant counterwagon to Zde
2) He asked for Zde to be modkilled (he

also

asked for AP to be modkilled)
3) He made a really townie post in particular about RandomYoshi

As of yesterday, I'm also a Hiraki fan, just solidly better

Here's what I've got so far

Town Pool

Bacde
Absta
AP
DR ZOID
SD
Hiraki

Scum be here

Revenus
Majiffy
Kashoodles
IFM

I think the Majiffy slot in particular has fallen to the wayside, deserves more scrutiny, and is likely scum. I don't like how he came out the gate voting for SD.

Vote: Majiffy

Care to explain your scum list? You seemed to flip your reasonings for people pretty quickly.

@Bacde - Why's Kash scum?

Bacde, answer this please.

AP is conftown, absta pretty conftown.

[kashoodles]

I will say Kash is someone I might be giving a pass. Intention to ISO Kash. Ugh. That is going to be lame.

But I'm fabulous!

[Hiraki]

You're being so opportunistic it's ridiculous.

OR

OR

Process of Elimination.

[Majiffy]

In an attempt of objectiveness, care to point out any games of yours where you have replaced in as town and actually been good?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=25583
Pretty much single-handedly won the game for town. Would you like more?

Still happy with my vote on SD. Game is highly unreadable. Zoidberg is probably the worst of them all. Losing interest in this game at a maddeningly rapid pace.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Losing interest in this game at a maddeningly rapid pace.

Great! That means you're scum. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. You could at least fight a little. You know, to give the town a little thrill.

VOTE: Majiffy

-DGB

[Hiraki]

Nay, nay. DGB.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Yeah, yeah.

This is a scum who see the writing on the wall and knows he's going to lose, and now he's pretending not to care to save his puny little pride. He's cornered; one missed NK, one partner town, several confirmed townies, a short scum list he's on, with his remaining buddy.

"Still happy with my vote on a townie, I'm not going to read the game, it's Zoidberg's fault, I wasn't interested in the game in the first place so that scum loss doesn't really count."

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

EBWOP one partner Down

[AngryPidgeon]

That majiffy vote is pretty bad.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I will add that Majiffy/Yoshi/Marangal have done collectively ZERO and now Majiffy is making pre-emptive excuses for future lurkage.

Stop looking for complicated explanations, scum doesn't get more butthurt and obvious than that.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

That majiffy vote is pretty bad.

You should sheep it.

-DGB