Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[zMuffinMan]

One of Lush Life, GCBC(previously morph), Kise, Pie, and zMuffin is scum, if not more. Just lynch that list and we'll be gold.

was there any actual reason behind this list, btw? it looks like you just chose the top 5 posters outside of kaze and the IC

[Messiah Complex]

I fucking hate my new boss, what should have been an 8 hour day turned into a 12 hour one, which I went straight home to a pissy fiancé and 4 month old that refused to be put down.

Desp and I did have a chance to talk briefly last night though. We are breaking the thread down into easier to handle blocks because Jesus fuck 29 pages...

I am going first and will try to have observations and analysis from the first 10 pages. Anything I should know going into this?

Oh, and just to avoid confusion, I generally don't sign my posts, while Desp does. I figure that you'd have to be functionally retarded to confuse us.

My apologies to all you functional retards in this thread.

[zMuffinMan]

I am going first and will try to have observations and analysis from the first 10 pages. Anything I should know going into this?

yeah; skip the first 10 pages

[Tsukasa]

Note I'm typing while I'm catching up. So if there's anything that I said that conflicts the other statements, Mind the latest statement.

@Tsukasa, I like calling myself town as town. It's sort of bizzare, but I enjoy it. I'm town, I'm town. It's like I'm saying "hey guys, I'm over here". I'm not sure where you've played with me(rather, I do but I don't want you to replace out), but If it was a while ago I know I had no scum games where I called myself town as scum. it was a bit of a trust tell at the time. I one time denied being recruited as cult though.

Yes. It was a Zoroaster game, IIRC. Or was it an AngryPigeon... I forgot But I'm pretty sure they were there.

no I mean this

@kise: dat waste of a vote :/

here you say Kise who is voting me, probably bc I'm stuck in RVS, is wasting his vote

Ftr tsukasa better get out of rvs or shit will go down

here you tell tTsukasa to get out of RVS. if staying in RVS is bad then why is the person voting me who's doing that same thing wasting his vote?

Im not voting tsukasa am I?

No you are not. But I thought shit was gonna go down on me. Why didn't you?
Were you scared?
Did you want to vote me before I added my P.S. message?

[quote="In post 407, Kise"

@Tsukasa, I like calling myself town as town. It's sort of bizzare, but I enjoy it. I'm town, I'm town. It's like I'm saying "hey guys, I'm over here". I'm not sure where you've played with me(rather, I do but I don't want you to replace out), but If it was a while ago I know I had no scum games where I called myself town as scum. it was a bit of a trust tell at the time. I one time denied being recruited as cult though.

You are trying to abuse a meta you and Tsu know about. Being self-aware of only calling yourself town as town? Yeah I've seen scum do that.

Unvote;
Vote Remembrance

[/quote]

I dunno what's up with Rem.
But since he replaced out.
I'm kinda dropping my thing on him.

...

@Tsukasa, I like calling myself town as town. It's sort of bizzare, but I enjoy it. I'm town, I'm town. It's like I'm saying "hey guys, I'm over here". I'm not sure where you've played with me(rather, I do but I don't want you to replace out), but If it was a while ago I know I had no scum games where I called myself town as scum. it was a bit of a trust tell at the time. I one time denied being recruited as cult though.

You are trying to abuse a meta you and Tsu know about. Being self-aware of only calling yourself town as town? Yeah I've seen scum do that.

Unvote;
Vote Remembrance

^might have a point here. If rem is telling the truth, it would be a trust tell, no?

One thing I hate are trust tells.
It kinda affects gameplay or something.
And if the person is aware that he's using a trust tell, doesn't that mean that it can easily be faked?

Time travel, it is the year 2014.

@Lushlife what is it like?

VOTE: Varsoon

Ctrl+F: Varsoon
2 results: A vote on me and a joke about what I'm about to do
I'm town, confirming that now.
Also, OMGUS, BITCHES
VOTE: Remembrance-slot

Are you always this unreadable early game? ;w;

I don't consider my play scummy. Maybe you should except MY play is MY fucking play and move on.

Computing...

Computing...


Request denied.

Majiffy. Aren't you just abusing your "I am Majiffy" Status?
That just because you're majiffy you can do anything and everything you want anytime?
Can you stop with that? Just this once? It's messing up my read of you.
This sensation of you being a "VERY VERY dangerous-scum"... It's unbearable.

So, you wanna bitch at us and take potshots at us? Fine. Aim at me. I'm right here, be as much of an asshat as you want towards me.

A girl's hormones rule her thoughts. That which is petty is best left ignored, yet every game a girl loses herself to the most innocuous of japes. Those buttons will continue to be pushed for as long as a girl allows them to be pushed.

No it doesn't. It's the girl's INTUITION that rules her. But never her hormones.

If I'm cop or vig, I will target bubba tonight. You have my word.

Are you rolefishing?
Are you?
Please tell me you are.
It'd be easier if you do.

/off
BAKA ^w^
/on

*add 2 pages of flame pages and shit posts*

The severe lack of nothing in Kagami's ISO is alarming. I think the vote on Remembrance is bullshit given Rem can't defend himself. And poor, considering it doesn't really make sense.

Lack of nothing? I do see your points and agree. I'm wary of her, too. Mainly because I don't know what scum-Kagami looks like yet. This might be her scum debut.

Still town every game. Rem's replacement probably proves her town.

Wait who's the replacement?
I didn't see any announcement in yukari's post. YUKARI STOP MESSING WITH YUYUKO. It's... it's... so wrong yet so right. I dunno what to do with that.
I... Don't... See... A replacement...

I do - being tunneled on when town by someone who she has a history with.

Read Xenoblade for the scum version of this trope, btw.

Xenoblade AGAIN?
It's like... The whole mafia universe just switched it's center to xenoblade.
If you're basing on xenoblade again
It's not going to help.
And if it's not going to help, then that means you're not to help town
Which means, you're not town.

My initial thought was that town was more likely to skip over the posts form the mod

whereas scum was more likely to read it thoroughly

, but that theory was clearly flawed.

You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

A man will break this down a little more thoroughly for Muffin

-cabd believes town would be more apt to skip the mod opening sequence
-cabd believes scum would be more likely to read the opening lest they miss something that could screw up
their game
-cabd says "You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves."
-as cabd believes town less likely read the opening, he would have nothing to be ashmed of for town missing
the IC
-as cabd believes scum should have read the opening, and aparently didn't, the statement of shame can only
be applied to those he's shaming. The scum.
-this leads a resonable man to ponder,

why wold a town cabd be motivated to help scum?

-since cabd took the chance to do this ITT, it further implies the lack of day talk.

Just so I understand everything before I get into this,
You're saying that scum was supposed to read it, but they didn't, and cabd is being ashamed of it?

I don't quite follow... I mean... If scum didn't read... Doesn't that make them town? And there's nothing to be ashamed of?
Can you clarify what it means?

So in case anyone was confused about where the scum on my wagon is, it's pieguy for starters.

holy wow I completely forgot you replaced in

Wait... Is he Rem's Replacement or something?
Why wasn't I informed...
I REALLY Don't see anything in yukari's post announcements...

i refuse to read those fucking giant quote walls. go fuck yourself if you're planning to do any more of them

BUT I WORKED SO LONG ON DOING THIS ;w;
It'd be bad if I just spam posted... I... I thought... This would have been better...
*cries in a corner*

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tl;dr version just for muffin

pomf =3

I think Lush Life is scum
I think morph/Cabd can be scum with him
I'm not sure about Rem for now
Dram has chickened out because he's scum and has not thrown shit at me yet
Who dafuq is Rem's replacement
The IC (who I didn't know at the time Until I re-read the Opening) makes quite a bit of sense, but I need plarifications

[Lush Life]

Xenoblade AGAIN?
It's like... The whole mafia universe just switched it's center to xenoblade.
If you're basing on xenoblade again
It's not going to help.
And if it's not going to help, then that means you're not to help town
Which means, you're not town.

Yeah dude I don't see how a completed game with the same players where we all know their alignment (and are acting somewhat differently from here!) could possibly help.
Holy shit you're daft.

[UFO]

Kise is giving me scum vibes. Oh and dram. More into this later

[Lush Life]

You are trying to abuse a meta you and Tsu know about. Being self-aware of only calling yourself town as town? Yeah I've seen scum do that.

Unvote;
Vote Remembrance

I am curious - how can you tell that this is scum-Rem subverting his self-meta rather than town-Rem adhering to it? Cause being self-aware of his meta doesn't necessitate that he be scum when he bring it up, considering that both alignments wish to be read as town.

[Mac]

Vote: pieguy

Firstly, his town bloc was terrible.

for now, I'll townread Tsukasa. he's being proactive early and there's also a ton of defiance in his posts that I tend to attribute more to a town mindset. I especially noticed it here

I'll also townread Lush Life for being obvtown and legitimately townslipping re: Jaqen. also bubbajack for being proactive early. I'll also townread Kaze bc I can't read him for shit and I tend to pick up on a lot of shit from him and I get the feeling if he was scum he'd be more careful and I'd pick up less
morph's frustration re: mollie feels town but idk if they'd get frustrated as scum plus I'm paranoid as fuck about them for practically no reason =.=

townblock: me, Kaze, Lush Life, bubbajack, Jaqen, Tsukasa

I don't like the "for now" in the first post, because it looks to me like he's shaping up change his mind later on in the game, OR doesn't have confidence in his read. If it's the former, he's probably scum and if it's the latter, why the fuck is Tsu in his townbloc? Lush Life I wouldn't mind being in the townbloc - but he quotes the "townslip" which is totally bullshit because the townslip was

based on Cabd's perception of a slip

- not his own. Personally, I wouldn't consider it a slip in any game, but that's my view. pieguy doesn't express belief this is the case, he just goes with it.

Let's not get started on townreading Kaze because pie is... unable to form a read on him?

Second point is this

vote: morph

still not sure about the "slip" but oh well I'll bite for now

I mean I'm pretty sure pie is pretty fucking logical in games, yet this is what he comes up with? Not pushing his own reads, and pushing morph based on a slip

he's not even sure about?

Yeah, right.

[Mac]

interesting. i thought you'd be a lot more wary about putting me anywhere near your town reads, not the first person you call town

Shweetums, you know I wouldn't town you for a while. I was being pieguy for a second - if you'd read the post, you would've understand. Why didn't you read the whole post?

[Yukari Yakumo]

VC 1.06

SXTLHGaiden (L-10):

SXTLHGaiden

UFO (L-9):

ActionDan | Tsukasa

Varsoon (L-10):

Remembrance

Lush Life (L-10):

pieguyn

bubbajack8 (L-10):

Lush Life

Kise (L-10):

Katarina LeBlanc

pieguyn (L-8):

Kazekirimaru | GoodCop_BadCop | Mac

Kazekirimaru (L-10):

dramonic

Remembrance (L-10):

Kise

GoodCop_BadCop (L-9):

Jaqen Hghar | Varsoon

Not Voting:

Amaranth, GoodCop_BadCop, YuniChikako, Messiah Complex, UFO, bubbajack8, zMuffinMan, Kagami

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch.

Deadline: 1/18/2014 12:00 AM EDT
Counter: (expired on 2014-01-18 01:00:00)

All the votes toward morph the cat after the replaceout hasn't been counted.

Pieguyn is V/LA until 8th
Jaqen is V/LA until 8th

Yuni and Amaranth has been prodded.

Let the love spread

[Mac]

Kaze, I feel like you're the only dude who knows I'm here so I'm gonna just chat with you and stuff.

I don't have any good reads. I haven't been giving this game much attention. If I rolled scum, this wouldn't be a problem, since, y'know, this game can ramble on without me.
Pieguyn is not on the usual town ball. That's important to notice.
Then again, neither am I.

One of Lush Life, GCBC(previously morph), Kise, Pie, and zMuffin is scum, if not more. Just lynch that list and we'll be gold.

Easy fuckin' peasy.
VOTE: GoodCopBadCop

Hey V, you're town but hoping one from a list of five is scum is not a good return.

[bubbajack8]

pieguy, Remembrance, bubba, Kagami. How's that sound? Those are my scumreads. And you know what? Many of them all decided it'd be a novel idea to vote Cabd within a span of like three fucking hours! Dat wagon. How's that for you, eh?

*cough* Bullshit. I've made it clear I'm not voting right now. I'm about to ISO everyone in a minute, then I'll most likely vote.

The answer is yes. I suggest you find the time to read those aforementioned posts, because I don't intend to stop making them.

My words to you.

Patience my young padawan. I'm not as pissed off about to do stupid things right now. I have a rough draft saved of the claim though.

A man wonders why town would need a 'rough draft' of a claim?? A man thinks town just need a role pm to paraphrase.

That's part of it. I also had some questions to the mod to make sure I was within the rules.

i refuse to read those fucking giant quote walls. go fuck yourself if you're planning to do any more of them

I warned you pre game it was my thing.

Also yeah, fuck your giant quote walls and shit. It's so easy to condense a point without being a fool about it. Or use spoiler tags so I don't immediately lose will to read it. Most of the reactions you have don't even contribute to the actual read, you're just adding more to make it seem like you have a well built case on someone when you're just kind of trying your best to disregard their posts by giving horrible replies that don't contribute or just plain piss them off. It's working too!

I respond to everything as I see fit. It's my way of playing. I do not use spoilers unless for cases because I don't want people skimming over it. I'm not trying to create a well built case. That's not my purpose. My purpose is to make my stance and opinions known, not to build a case.

I still want Kise gone, but bubbajack is much worse. I'd be happy with either of them gone. At least calm dis thread down a bit. Friendships have already been tarnished

If I somehow tarnished a friendship I am sorry. I would like to know why you want Kise gone.

[Kise]

Carry on. This post will turn to VC later.

I don't think Lush is scum. Not with morph/gcbg. Why would the fellas let mollie shit on ff? But I do see where jaq is coming from. Cabd gave up on his theory quickly. Still, not so sure about gcbc+LL.

I don't see how Kaze's "sour" attitude & contradictions make him a townread for you. Isn't that how we catch scum, when their logic is flawed, when they lie, when their inconsistent, etc.?

ok let me try to explain this
Sakura Hana is a friend of mine and we play a lot. whenever she's town, everything she posts pings me and we always get in 1v1s a lot. however, when she's scum her posts are like 9000x more logical and I hardly pick up on anything from her. the last time I played with Kaze (AA:MFA), we got in a massive 1v1 and he was town. this feels like it could end up being the same thing, plus he's being townread by a lot of people. I get lost enough in large games as it is and the last thing I need is to do a 1v1 that probably won't get me anywhere. also, in AA:MFA everyone besides me read him as town, so I kind of feel like trusting the majority on him is better in this scenario. I can revisit the possibility he's scum later but it's prob better to write him off as town and see what happens atm

Did Kaze contradict himself in the last game as well? Also if you don't mind me giving an out of game suggestion, I think you shouldn't let others' reads on a player discourage you from having an opposite read. No need to have a big 1v1 with Kaze. If you think he said something scummy, ask him about it to find the motive, inspiration, etc.

...

@pieguy, I think, or whoever asked me about my scumlist (I could have sworn someone asked but I don't see it after a quick reread)

REM:

"EVeryone answer these irrelevant questions! Tsu tell everyone I'm town! Okay again, more questions! Please link to your proudest scum games. Huh? No I'm not gonna scumhunt even though it's been 16 pages, peace out."

pieguy:

"lol im lazy"
"ok srsbsn...TOWNBLOC"
"lol idunno

vote morph

"
"oop gtg bbl wednesday"

morph/GCBC:

"asdkjhakjsdhkjhiuewkjnskjhkjhfkjsfdsjfmdsnfdsjkfhdskjfhdsh"
"I thought only scum would see who the IC was but never mind, everyone saw the mod's post. And by everyone I mean only bubba and Kaze. Shame on you. And yes I read the mod's post too but I'm a special townie, such snowflake, much unique."
"Am I at 3000 posts yet?"
"No?"
"asdkjahskjdhqhwd8iqkjwnjdhkjasn,madsn,m"
(actually I'm not sure if Kaze saw it or not)

bubba:

(Can't shit on bubba, he at least manned up. Him being scum is super dependent on GCBC being scum. I'd like him to have breathing room to play the game instead of argue with jiffy fwiw.)

NEW!
Katarina:

"Kise don't wanna argue. I'm not arguing either, nor am I contributing. But hey I still think Kise should be the lynch today lol kawaii desu uguu"

[Mac]

morph's posting about the townslip made sense because there's no way scum would all post 3 in a row questioning cabd have an IC they all missed on his reads list. especially if he's hard townreading Lush/maybe kaze. move along, thank you.

[Kise]

HLY FUCK I KNW IT ITS FUCKING WAYNEGG

Go eat shit and die.

nah they're both in an ongoing
I-It's not like I searched him or anything

BAKA

Pieguyn is not on the usual town ball. That's important to notice.
Then again, neither am I.

NP, we can lynch pie.

You are trying to abuse a meta you and Tsu know about. Being self-aware of only calling yourself town as town? Yeah I've seen scum do that.

Unvote;
Vote Remembrance

I am curious - how can you tell that this is scum-Rem subverting his self-meta rather than town-Rem adhering to it? Cause being self-aware of his meta doesn't necessitate that he be scum when he bring it up, considering that both alignments wish to be read as town.

Never played with Rem but the fact still remains he wants town status > finding scum.

Are you rolefishing?
Are you?
Please tell me you are.
It'd be easier if you do.

How did you get rolefishing from me saying what I would do if I'm the cop or vig?

I'll take 4 votes on piewagon over a lazy gcbcwagon. Also before you slap me, Rem might be town. Cheap tactic but whatever, he's being replaced.

unvote
vote pie

[Kise]

morph's posting about the townslip made sense because there's no way scum would all post 3 in a row questioning cabd have an IC they all missed on his reads list. especially if he's hard townreading Lush/maybe kaze. move along, thank you.

Not really sure what you're saying in this post but I'll kindly disagree that GCBC is town.

[dramonic]

Kise, protect me from the idiots ;_;

[Kise]

Requirements for this game:
1 game completed, no brain needed

(j/k GIF don't smite me)

[Jaqen Hghar]

morph's posting about the townslip made sense because there's no way scum would all post 3 in a row questioning cabd have an IC they all missed on his reads list. especially if he's hard townreading Lush/maybe kaze. move along, thank you.

Not really sure what you're saying in this post but I'll kindly disagree that GCBC is town.

A man hopes you and Kagami end up on the right wagon by day end.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

NEW!
Katarina:

"Kise don't wanna argue. I'm not arguing either, nor am I contributing. But hey I still think Kise should be the lynch today lol kawaii desu uguu"

Immediately a horrible scumlist.


Sorry I'm not diving headfirst into that knee deep crap pile. I like how you scumread both conflicting parties in order to just look like you're the one who is gonna settle it all.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

The ad hominem in this thread is immense.

[Kise]

So is the uselessness of 93% of the posts.

[Kise]

Also you're still not contributing. I don't care how cool you think you are, you've done nothing for this game to help move it along.

[dramonic]

morph's posting about the townslip made sense because there's no way scum would all post 3 in a row questioning cabd have an IC they all missed on his reads list. especially if he's hard townreading Lush/maybe kaze. move along, thank you.

Not really sure what you're saying in this post but I'll kindly disagree that GCBC is town.

A man hopes you and Kagami end up on the right wagon by day end.

A man is being hypocritical as fuck.

[Yukari Yakumo]

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