A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[The Pied Piper]

On the Mirhawk town case - I don't think his increased post count/emotional investment is indicative of town. I'm often more engaged and invested as scum.

You might be more engaged as scum, but Mirhawk isn't.
One piece that you're missing (and the entire piece is the reason why I bothered bringing it up in the first place) is the sheer scale of the increased posting. This game is one-third of Mirhawk's body of work on this site; I agree that a big reason that he's upped his posting is because he's been a perpetual lynch target, but, based on reading some of his past games and based on my personal experience with him, I don't think that he has the ability to fake that kind of fight as scum; I think, if scum, he'd be far more likely to roll over and die then fight the way that he has.

Dwlee is still a wild card to me because I know he death tunnels with little reasoning as town, I've seen it before. I remember his entrance being pretty townie and there's nothing smoking-gun on him. What specifically did you point out on him?

The most significant point on him is that every single one of his reads is static; there's not a read that he's really tried to sort through, there's not a read that he's changed his mind on, there's nothing. I've pointed out why I think that some of his other recent town games are different; if you'd like to link me to a game where he does the same thing that he does here, it would help a lot if I manage to live long enough to read it through. I agree there's not really a smoking gun, but I don't really think that there's a smoking gun to find.

[dramonic]

Cerb, you should hammer.
EDIT: Dwlee I swear to god if you unvote...

[Dwlee99]

Cerb, you should hammer.
EDIT: Dwlee I swear to god if you unvote...

DRAM EXPLAIN WHY YOU SCUM READ TPP CAUSE MY LOGIC NO WORK

[The Pied Piper]

I'm going to bed.
I'll be around in a limited fashion tomorrow morning maybe, but my significant chunk of free time is approximately an hour or so before deadline. Plot could/could not be around in a significant fashion before then.

[dramonic]

Thank you.
You may now continue spouting useless drivel.

Please stop directing stuff like this towards Plot specifically.

Would you feel better if I replaced useless drivel with white noise?

EDIT: Dwlee, your logic never worked, I just let you jump around cuz even with wrong logic, you're still on the right wagon.

[Dwlee99]

Thank you.
You may now continue spouting useless drivel.

Please stop directing stuff like this towards Plot specifically.

Would you feel better if I replaced useless drivel with white noise?

EDIT: Dwlee, your logic never worked, I just let you jump around cuz even with wrong logic, you're still on the right wagon.

UNVOTE:
Until you convince me with your logic

[dramonic]

Oh my fucking god.
I give up

vote: dramonic

[Dwlee99]

Wow look at how convincing you are!!

[dramonic]

There's no reason to try to convince you.

[Dwlee99]

Thank you, dram, I love you too,

[dramonic]

I'm gonna go cool off before I get myself modkilled.
You guys can resume jerkin off TPP, I'm sure they could use it after the stressful experience of being put at l-1.

[Dwlee99]

^how to convince someone of your reads 101

[drmyshottyizsik]

VOTE: tpp
seriously dwee we are going to end up at a no lynch.

[pistachi0n]

I have so much doubts about tpp now. I literally based my entire read on them off flawed logic wjxbejxjen

This reads like you're bad scum who knows town is about to get lynched.

VOTE: dwlee

i'm willing to vote TPP if I wake up tomorrow morning and nobody's been lynched yet

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Dwlee

[Marquis]

VOTE: dwlee

[drmyshottyizsik]

VOTE: dwee I can get back to this

[dramonic]

ffs guys =/

[Cerberus v666]

Tpp, continue the analysis please.

UNVOTE:

[Dwlee99]

I jist got hammered. lmao

[Dwlee99]

gj guys, hammer without a claim the beloved princess. 10/10

[Dwlee99]

Vote Count #4.10:

The Pied Piper:

Dwlee99, dramonic, Mirhawk, Marquis, drmyshottyizsik, podoboq (6)

Mirhawk:

itlepip, Flubbernugget (2)

podoboq:

Cerberus v666 (1)

SirCakez:

pistachi0n (1)

Cerberus v666:

The Pied Piper (1)

drmyshottyizsik:

SirCakez (1)

Not Voting:

Malakittens

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

V/LA:

SirCakez until 5/30.
Marquis until 5/31.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-05-29 21:40:00)

Dwlee99:

The central core of my read on Dwlee is that he isn't actually making an attempt to read the game; his reads aren't really based in anything and he just pushes for pushing's sake. The main argument against this, from what I can tell, is that "this is his normal meta", and that people don't believe that he is intelligent enough to actually read the game and get opinions on people. The major counter I have to this is actually looking at his town meta; in Micro 598, Dwlee had a strong suspicion of Magna based on what looked like a scum slip to him. In this game, after he thought a player had scumslipped, he argued with other players, speculated on alternate scumteams, and, at one pointed, voted his top suspect and unvoted 15 minutes later to deliberate about it some more. This is a trend in all of his town games that I've read; Dwlee very clearly and transparently thinks about the votes and pushes he's making as town. As scum? Not so much. In Cyberpunk after I was killed, the town began self-destructing a bit, and Dwlee always followed on the heels of their votes, and, most importantly, when he changed reads on people, he just changed them for little to no reason, and there was none of the consideration that he had elsewhere in figuring out the game. The only meaningful thing that Dwlee has done this entire day is push us, and he's been pushing us for a long time. But during this time, there's no point where his push changed or evolved; he started scumreading us in 3074 and there's been no progress at all since then. He used his scumread of us to avoid voting Skybird until suddenly we were close to hammering her and then he decided that he didn't like something she said, he talked a lot about swapping votes onto Axelrod but never followed through. And he doesn't have this problem with just us; his reads on everyone have been completely static. There's not a single read that he's had that's organically evolved or changed; they've all been completely the same, across the board.

Vote: Dwlee99

I plan on detailing all of my major reads (at least), but will be posting in chunks. I will claim before I leave for the night.

Maybe we can save you TPP!

VOTE: Dwlee99

you know I can see where this goes
VOTE: dwee

Because this town is composed of clownfucks and they know that once again, they're gonna dodge the rope in favor of some other sap who doesn't have enough cocksucking inertia to dodge it.

this lynch is your ass
VOTE: tpp

VOTE: Dwlee

I have so much doubts about tpp now. I literally based my entire read on them off flawed logic wjxbejxjen

This reads like you're bad scum who knows town is about to get lynched.

VOTE: dwlee

i'm willing to vote TPP if I wake up tomorrow morning and nobody's been lynched yet

VOTE: Dwlee

VOTE: dwlee

VOTE: dwee I can get back to this

lmao.

[Dwlee99]

ngl you guys are p smart

[Cerberus v666]

davesaz,

Emcee (Town Watcher)

from

Cabaret

, was killed Night 3.

Axelrod,

Bruce Bechdel (Mafia Ninja)

from

Fun Home

, was killed Night 3.

Day 4 has begun! With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Countdown: (expired on 2016-05-25 21:40:00).

My apologies again for the delay.

:/ that's why I unvofed. I didn't have a count on the votes.

[Cerberus v666]

I...have no idea why that quote was there. I didn't even realize it was included until right now, when I got home.