Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang
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2) I never said Yin isnt evil.
3) The PoE from Yin is legitimate still. We do not fucking submit Tanner or Chara unless another red flips
3a) The reasoning being Yin has been playing to the mafia wincon all along, but not with the flexibilty of a "human". That is how we got a usable wincon.
4) I understand I am never getting "elevated" in this case, ain't gunna stop me playing to win.
5) Frankly I've reached a point where I'm fed up of being a godsdamned sideshow here. The mech has been revealed. My method so far has worked. Now the burden is on you to prove me wrong.
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Yin and yang is a simple concept.
There is light in darkness, there is darkness in light. Both should be kept in balance. Both are essential.
I'm genuinely done here.
pedit oh my fuck...
THE POE PROVIDED SO FAR HAS BEEN CORRECT, MY THEORY SO FAR HAS BEEN PROVEN CORRECT. NOW PROVE ME WRONG.
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2 eliminations and how many questions?
I'm just going to autohammer anything that comes up now.
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Look at the gamestate Ydrasse. there's your answer.
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I've been resisted at every single turn.
I'm done fighting, ya'll obviously know the game better than me so there it is.
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Go over your notes tweetie.In post 3180, Morning Tweet wrote:Those questions were incredibly easy. I suppose we'll just disagree on that. If the game was just to ask Yin who the mafia are, this is not a game of mafia.
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Go over your notes tweetie.In post 3185, Morning Tweet wrote:If by fighting for mechanics you mean voteparking anyone Yin called a criminal, then yes, you did. We killed Infy and Nakata because they were scummy, not because they were criminals. Dont you think it would make sense Yin would lead us to kill the people scum wants us to kill if he's evil? I cannot understand how you are coming to the conclusion criminals must be scum just because two flipped that way. Yin knows their alignments. It was intentional.
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Well I'm at the bottom of a pit of spikes, I ain't going nowhere.In post 3183, Ydrasse wrote:okay like
i just fundamentally disagree with how you’re approaching this game right now but i don’t think that’s gonna go anywhere
flea who do you want to vote as town the most?
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Nope, the only vote I'm dropping now is hammers.In post 3189, Ydrasse wrote:can you answer my question please?
Occam's Razor.In post 3190, Morning Tweet wrote:I think if you asked optimal questions you could solve the criminal mystery in 2-3 days. We took a bit longer but imagine if we did that quickly. What a boring game..?
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In post 3196, Morning Tweet wrote:I dont think Occams Razor applies
The simplest answer is that Yin is evil. There is a lot of evidence to support that
Look at your notes tweetie.
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Heres my notes tweetie, lets see if you see what I see.
- There are 4 criminals (286) across 3 factions (503)
- The public masonry is not criminal free. (503)
Chara,(282)and PookyNorwee
- Pooky has voted for a criminal as of post 981
Ydrasse, Tweetie, Tanner, Chara(982)
- There is a maximum of 1 criminal in ,Amyand Tanner (1254)Robert
- A member of the scumteam has recieved a maximum of 5 votes. (1254)
,Nakata,InfinityIrcher
- has voted at least 1 criminal.Amy
Chara,,Ircher,NakataInfinity
- There are no truely criminal in , Ydrasse andAmy.Ircher
- There is at least 1 criminal voting in VC 1.11.Nakata
Ydrasse,Dunne, clidd,Amy, Morning TweetInfinity
- There is more than 1 criminal in Tanner, ,Amy, Ydrasse and Chara. 2154Robert
- There is a criminal in Tanner, Ydrasse, and Ircher
- There is a Criminal in Flea, and Pooky (2355)Nakata
- There are 2 criminals in Morning, clidd, Pooky
- has voted for a still living criminal (as of this post)Amy
Chara,,Ircher,NakataInfinity
- There are criminals inside , Ydrasse andAmy(2806)Nakata
- MIN 1 -> Chara// PookyNorwee
- MIN 1 -> Ydrasse/ Tweetie /Tanner/Chara
- MAX 1 -> Tanner//AmyRobert
- MIN 1 -> /Nakata/InfinityIrcher
- MIN 2 -> Chara//Ircher/NakataInfinity
- MIN 1 -> Ydrasse// clidd /DunneAmy/ Morning TweetInfinity
- MIN 1 -> Tanner/Ydrasse/Norwee
- MIN 2 -> Tanner//Amy/RobertYdrasse/Chara
- MIN 1 -> Flea// PookyNakata
- HAS 0/2 -> Morning / Clidd / Pooky
- MIN 1? -> /AmyYdrasse/Nakata
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Chara this is aimed specifically at Tweetie, given it's damning of you I genuinely would not expect you to go along with this.
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Like I said, as far as I'm concerned, I now need to be proven wrong. Nobodies going to until its too late. So I'm just going to vote whoever and hammer whoever.
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He wont. I know he wont.In post 3221, Chara wrote:what would you do if Tanner flipped town?
They've answered several questions and I've noticed a pattern in which ones were answered.Chara wrote:is that why you haven't responded to my reasoning about Yin clearly not being forced to answer every poe question?In post 3215, Flea The Magician wrote:Yeah I edited the bit below and didn't amend the top bit. my bad.
Chara this is aimed specifically at Tweetie, given it's damning of you I genuinely would not expect you to go along with this.
More than 2 people, around 1 or 2 per RL day.
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Following green PoE gives us the best chance than giving a red a go.
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I smell desperation.In post 3230, Tanner wrote:i am ready to scream at any two of clidd/pooky/chara/amy that i need so that they vote for me, i write a "not hammering myself" post so that we can see flea's head explode. and theni'm hammering myself and getting out of here.
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Pooky I've burned you with my high efforts before, and when I've gone deepwolf.In post 3229, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In post 2115, Tanner wrote:[i wrote the following the morning after the flip. the norwee and ircher parts are kinda moot now, but i'm posting it anyway. will look at norwee's iso when it's not 2am. also uhhh, ircher buddy you okay there?]
i cannot stop thinking about this game, so i will make some notes. if i live to see day two, i will post this in the main thread. if not, i will post this in the dead thread. the order within tiers is kinda town>scum but also kind of not, idk.
town:
- tanner. don't @ me.
most likely town unless we're living in a fucked up world:
- ydrasse. while i was thinking her posts are pretty townie on its own, i don't think scum!her decides to bus infinity in 1744 after i made two (2) shitposts asking for infinity votes. she could've made some bullshit up about nakata. or about ircher. or about literally anyone. like, i *think* ydrasse is sometimes slightly bus happy, but lmfao what the fuck would this be. nah fam.
- norwee. similar story to ydrasse, i think his general solviness and energy are decently +town on their own, i similarly don't think he busses infinity in 1745 like that. town.
- amy. this one is not as strong as ydra/norwee because i don't have like, a *general* townread on her slot, but i still think that that infinity bus was not in any way necessary, especially as she was already angling to vote either nakata or ircher. so i don't think scum!amy does it.
- ircher. now this is not really based on his play (though that one wallpost was Decent i guess), but i believe the way infinity played around him *strongly* implies that he's town. so i already called out infinity for this in 1380, but look at this sequence. in 1218, ircher is at 5 votes, and infinity is egging his wagon on, but not voting him herself. ~18 hours later, ircher is at y-1, with it seeming like there's not way he's not getting yeeted. infinity jumps out of the void to suddenly defend ircher and say that she actually wants to kill nakata (1357, 1359). this is not scum defending their partner (unless they were going for the ultimate wifom defense). this is scum weakly defending a townie they thought was a lost cause for the towncred the next day. and then on page 70 she's magically fine with an ircher wagon again? if this truly was a 9000 iq distance that infinity knew i was gonna fall for, then mad props.
probably(?) town but like, i could be wrong:
- clidd. this one kinda pains me. he's here solely based on his play/wim, and the fact that i am very aware that town!clidd gets tunnelled on unimportant things and misses sort-of-obvious scum signs. like, his defense of infinity is Not Good, and that hammer makes me slightly anxious. but as said, on play he's town, so i'm just gonna hope he's town for now.
- pooky. now i am not that solid on this one because he did want ircher and shit, but i don't think he lets partner!infinity die like that. idk, i'm invoking the chara's folly tell again. i don't think pooky sits on the sidelines like that when his partner is going down like that.
- nakata. ctrl+f'ing "nakata" in infinity's iso, i don't think those are s/s. like, infinity was kind of continuously pushing nakata, and the posts i called infinity out for in 1380 imply to me that they're not aligned. also, i don't think that nakata not wanting to vote infinity because infinity will be readable later is actually scummy, as opposed to a townie caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. *however*, i'm putting it out there immediately that i have been fooled by a distance like the one i called out in 1380, so take this with a grain of salt. also, if i wake up to see ydrasse dead, i'm heavily looking at nakata and trying to sort him asap. (i'll be doing that if i'm alive regardless, because i feel like a decent amount of the game could be different depending on if nakata is scum or town, but you feel).
the poe:
- morning tweet. man, i want tweetie to be town, i really do. i'm not yet feeling the "tweetie is obvtown" feeling. and her interactions / play around infinity are... iffy at best. and i don't like the sit on ircher.
- chara. i'm not very certain on this, and it's mostly a nullread coupled with "its infinity vote made me raise an eyebrow" and some posts around her feeling "hmm". i haven't yet put too much thought into this, since sorting chara is probably Not Easy, and i don't like using up effort if i don't know if i'm gonna see tomorrow to present that effort. and i know "this person have stronk scumgaem so null" is an extremely annoying thing to hear (i lose my shit every time innocentvillager does it to me, even though more often than not it's a joke), so in advance i'm apologizing for doing that, but. yeah.
- flea. yikes, okay, what the fuck was that vote on me lmfao. anyway, something rings scummy-wrong about fae having infinity in faer scumpool for a long period of time but never voting her? however, something also rings townie-wrong in fae being utterly disinterested in voting ircher, and on grounds fae could easily ignore if needed (yin clear). and voting me, when it was blatantly obvious it won't go through? so like, i don't know, this slot confuses me.
- robert. i know i said his interactions with infinity are kinda -partner but my god this slot looks scummy as shit. i don't think there's a single genuine thought about solving the game anywhere in his iso. and the constant lurk-if-no-pressure / post-if-pressure pattern is Not Good.
I don't think Tanner writes this ^
if he's scum tbh
I know a wolf can write that.
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No surprise here that you're willing to vote your PoE buddy.In post 3233, Chara wrote:i'll vote for you, but you'll need to suffer for a while longer because that's what i have to do and it's only fair.In post 3230, Tanner wrote:i am ready to scream at any two of clidd/pooky/chara/amy that i need so that they vote for me, i write a "not hammering myself" post so that we can see flea's head explode. and theni'm hammering myself and getting out of here.
and because i'm still doing work.
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use your PT, it'll be easier to get your stories straight. :3
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Fleas been playing and has a backup plan.In post 3247, Morning Tweet wrote:The sooner we vote out Tanner the sooner flea can start playing and all of the pieces will fall into place for my tanner/ydrasse/pooky/flea town to win
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Congratulations you made a scumcase on a person who is designated to not be yeet from this.In post 3287, Tanner wrote:ok so this is not exactly my current thoughts, more like a universe i am considering, but:In post 3284, Chara wrote:and yet in spite of myself i kind of want to hear it.In post 3281, Tanner wrote:i actually have a crack theory on flea/chara it's that bad
so first of all, flea's play this game didn't make sense to me at all. and i'm not talking the mech stuff, i'm talking the votepark on me on d1 and then votepark on nakata and it's all odd. however i think it makes at least some sense if we assume/guess that flea was one of the people that was destined to fall early rather than infinity or nakata. if it seems like fae was consistently trying to single me out, it's not far fetched that someone thinks of us as psrtners. especially since i wasn't exactly attacking fae in return, which could easily be swept as scum wifom. (i mean almost anything can be but you know what i mean.)
the thing that i found really *really* odd is that flea never voted chara even though chara fit the bill of criminal, *and* chara was lower in faer reads than i was. this was excused by flea saying that fae usually doesn't have much faith in faer reads, but it still feels... backwards??
i can't say that flea refusing to play the game is completely scum!indicative bc apparently they're capable of playing it properly as scum so idk.
(sidenote i just realized, pooky said that no? and yet wasn't he on clidd's ass for not providing reads saying that that is scum!indicative but giving flea a pass for that? idk a note to check that later)
but like, i can kind of see flea's plan here of oppose my yeet, then once it happens anyway, do a 180 and push chara through?
actually as i type that out i'm slightly less convinced that that is the case because if that happened, i'm not sure flea gets out of here, but my earlier points of "flea wanting to murder me for being a criminal but completely ignoring chara in that regard" is still valid i think
somewhere along the way this turned into a "hey maybe the team is pooky/flea" but uh i will think about that later, i'm going for a walk now, enjoy this wordvomit i guess
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I am a capable, adaptive and reflexive thinker, if I'm scum here and things went sideways, I go ALL OUT and powerwall to recover.In post 3289, Chara wrote:and fae is capable of playing as scum, faer scumgame is good. if this is a scum ploy it means something went very wrong or fae was purposely going for the refuge in audacity angle for some reason.
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I both thank you and dislike you for this as now I'm intrigued enough to go evidence hunting...In post 3306, Yang wrote:Remember when I tried to protect the mafia from your votings
And you didn't listen to me
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Almost like it's scuppering your chance of winning ain't it. You're suddenly more desperate to get out of here.In post 3310, Tanner wrote:can we not vote the people who townread me out first please :/
also uhh. was busy with other things tonight. definitely doing stuff soon still.
Pull up a spike, we're staying.
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0 is an even number technically.In post 3316, Amy Dunne wrote:Yin also told Pooky that there were an even number of scum in Pooky/Clidd/Tweetie, which contradicts his Tanner/Chara reads.
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How is it? How is it remotely a good post?In post 3421, Chara wrote:not to be Like That, but Tanner's blatant "please vote me out asap" is kind've +town for me. i'm already confident in that read but i'm trying to imagine scum Tanner thinking it's a good idea to make this post.In post 3417, Flea The Magician wrote:Almost like it's scuppering your chance of winning ain't it. You're suddenly more desperate to get out of here.In post 3310, Tanner wrote:can we not vote the people who townread me out first please :/
also uhh. was busy with other things tonight. definitely doing stuff soon still.
Pull up a spike, we're staying.
That is scum 100%.
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There is absolutely no reason for a town tanner to be nervous right now.In post 3436, Chara wrote:i just don't think Tanner is scum. this seems ridiculous to me. he's one of the few reads i'm actually confident in rn, and i'm not confident in a whole lot at the moment. i can see why he's nervous. he's expected he can get out of this game, he doesn't want to be the reason for the loss, he's highly townread, but this Yin criminal thing keeps getting brought up as evidence and he knows it's wrong, and i know it's wrong. i don't know Datisi that well, but i absolutely know the feeling of feeling like you're being incorrectly read as rown and the game is about to get 10x harder. his play here is so reminiscent of Chara's Folly, i thought it at the beginning and it's only gotten stronger, right down to the spiralling of confidence right at the end. and unless the team is exactly Tanner/clidd i also don't see why he goes back and finds reason to defend him, either. which i guess is possible? it's not a reason i think Tanner is town, it's just something to note i guess.
point being i don't think scum Tanner does this. i think he's highly townread, he's happy with the status quo, he doesn't make multiple posts about wanting to be sentenced asap.
pedit: i would be okay with Pooky or Ydrasse today, if we aren't doing Tanner.
pedit x2: :<
If tanners town and knows my read is bad, he dismisses it.
Tanners scum and you know it.
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Fastest way to solve it, is to just ignore it or drink it.
Yin and Yang are mechanics in this game.
They are the centre point of this game.
My theory is right so far.
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I don't care how I'm read, I'm not getting removed from this game either way.In post 3480, Chara wrote:i'm not going to argue about that anymore. i think you know your theory isn't right, but you're happy keeping it up because you know it's actually working to get you townread. i've already said why Yin was not at all forced to answer the poe questions, and whu that makes no sense in a game that's supposed to be mafia, and you've ignored it. Hectic and Isis would not design a game like that.
There is enough to show my theory is right so far.
There is none to prove it wrong.
Occams Razor is an amazing design concept, for the record.
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yeah but everyones ignoring me.In post 3511, Morning Tweet wrote:hi have we solved the game yet
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by one person.In post 3537, Tanner wrote:and yes before you ask i am aware that pissing off the conftown who doesn't wanna listen to me anyway is stupid but congrats being pushed throughout the whole game on that criminal bullshit is taking its toll
you may all now collectively go "would scum!tanner purposefully piss of the conftown for the wifom" because the answer is probably yes
Literally I am the only person who is seriously pushing you, and has been for a long time.
So the frustration may be genuine, but only because you're the one who sealed your own fate.
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I don't, that's the thing.In post 3542, Tanner wrote:this gives me a headache this read is so surface level it's sadIn post 3470, Flea The Magician wrote:There is absolutely no reason for a town tanner to be nervous right now.
If tanners town and knows my read is bad, he dismisses it.
"tanner is scum because he's survivalistic" "tanner is scum because he is nervous" like this is genuinely such level zero thinking, why the fuck are you pretending like you know anything about me or the way i play?
But if you're town, there's absolutely no reason for you to be nervous.
oh and nice attempt to change what I said. I never said survivalistic.
You're scum for many reasons. I'm just waiting for people to realise I'm right.
Until then, I'll use everything at my disposal.
Pressure, intimidation, and suppression.
Because you will crack, You already are cracking.
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Saw your post on the PEdit pooks, looks like you've done some of the work for me.
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Then there's this "defence" of "oh shit I got caught"In post 3550, Tanner wrote:i know scum!me likes to meme-openwolf sometimes but come on that is too much even for me
also when i opened my iso earlier when i was looking for my older posts re ydra's reads, i found this gem and lmfao if she's scum
ok i'm off fr
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i'm the one never getting removed from this pit, we have an error range of 1. That is now me. This game will reach F3.In post 3557, clidd wrote:By PoE the less towny in my eyes is flea, but fae isn't scumposting so not sure where I'm supposed to look.
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from 1 player, literally from just me. he's basically a UTR that I can see.In post 3561, clidd wrote:I sympathize with Tanner's recent engagement and internal frustration at not being townread as he thinks he should be (I've had similar episodes in the past, but I've expressed more anger than frustration).
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Occams Razor is an amazing trick.In post 3571, Morning Tweet wrote:I think "Hectic told us the names of all the scum through a simple QnA" is somewhat insulting to him as a mod and not my first inclination
I really fail to see what the game is if you dont even have to play mafia, ya know? all the other mechanics would be wasted.
Plus, if you were playing more you could see why Tanmer is 99% town
In DnD I've stumped a player group for THIRTY MINUTES just because a door had runes on it that translated to "pull" - they thought it was magical and warded.
At LARP I've given the players a simple cipher and the code to break it, it took them an hour because they didn't trust it. "It's too easy and its you Flea."
Hell it even stumped me recently in Pokémon Tabletop.
"You're a ghost type, aren't you Aki. I've seen the power you hex maniacs wield. Knock my hat off my head - and I will help you"
I literally just had to go and knock it off, i didn't because I don't have a move that allows it.
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What would surprise you for me to pull as scum?
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Especially as I'm about to go deep into my scum meta.
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I'm digging through tanners ISO between spacing the fuck out and trying to keep my water and salt levels up (UK is having a heatwave, we're at 82f with 50-60% humidity, we ain't built for this weather) and I've spent the past week in a state of heat exhaustion.
Think about it Pooky, why would townTanner be so desperate to get out of the pit? Why so reactive to me pushing him when he's a UTR?
His early game is weak, so now we're late game he should in theory be in his element, why not help town sort out who to put out instead of just trying to get out?
Why has he set up to discredit yin from the get go?
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Pooks you're one of the most paranoid players I know, Why aren't you paranoid around Tanner?
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2 and 1 gone.
2 vs 7.
2 removed from wincon.
2 vs 5(+1). We need 4 correct eliminations, we can be wrong once and remove scum, we can also have a member of town stay behind.
I've already declared I'm the town staying behind - I know I'm not townread enough to even consider being a successful elimination.
Even when Tanner flips red, Chara still has to go on and disprove me against Yin, and the attitude of this game states it will be successful in this.
Why is Tanner prioritising their own removal now over town wincon?
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4 against 9, 2 and 1 elimed
2 against 8. 1 detonated and 1 removed from pool.
2 against 6. 4 town eliminations required.
2 against 2 is the optimal endgame state.
1 against 2 is the suboptimal endgame state.
Meaning we have 1 misyeet but 2 town who can stay behind.
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No matter who we send, as long as thats the plan, we will get green. I am 100% on this. Too confident for town, absolutely. Do I care? no.
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*slow clap*
Good defence. Impressive even. Scummy worthy maybe?
I know you're capable of being a balls to the wall type of player, and yea you said yourself you're a meme-y openwolf.
Hell I've pull this shit before. And it literally just lol it away, you don't prepare a response because then that's just emotion less. You have to respond with emotion attached or people catch on.
You know how tunnelled I can be, You know I'm not even getting warmed up.
Don't hide behind a censor, because that just tells me you're filling blank space. Either say it, or don't.
Town wincon is currently town gets 4 of their own removed. So whats wrong in joining me in Yolo?
Not just getting yourself removed.
Scum's is, scums is both get yeet. Which requires you getting the early train out, doesn't it?
You know I'm coming >:)
After all, what have you got to lose my humouring me? I can't push for your elimination after all, can I?
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Humour me people, you lose nothing by keeping me, Tanner and Chara back with Amy.
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It's a showing my thinking around Tanner. And no, Tanner is not getting the votes today, neither are you. We're all having a Yolo party.
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Because a scumcase and me showing my thinking are two different things, even with a 99% overlap.
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Yin is singled mindedly pushing scum objectives, all the way through.In post 3606, Chara wrote:i made that post because discrediting Yin is in no way shape or form scum indicative when Yin is literally scum and detonated Ircher. that was my whole point. i don't care about your scumcase because it's based on Tanner and me being scum because Yin said so. i don't know if you're scum or town but if you are town i see 0 way we come to an agreement ever without flipping me or Tanner or flipping scum outside of us.In post 3604, Flea The Magician wrote:Tell me what you're expecting to see then Chara.
Because a scumcase and me showing my thinking are two different things, even with a 99% overlap.
Scum objective is to get eliminated, Yin has given us all the information to push that scum objective.
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Context is incredibly fucking important. What do you lose from me, you, chara and someone else being in YOLO with Amy?In post 3608, Tanner wrote:re 3598: the point wasn't *when* you called me survivalistic. the point was the fact that you did so at all shows that you have no clue about who i am or how i play. and your solve is wrong. why the fuck would i join that?
it's been a while since i've seen a wall that bad but here we go. i'm not even gonna spoiler this, i got to suffer reading this, others get to too.
Until I'm proven wrong on Yin, I'm right. Evidence backs me.
But hey lets go wall for wall, I've been looking forward to this. mwahahahah.
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In post 3617, Tanner wrote:(1) lylo is a fucking nightmare and i prefer to avoid that shit like the plague. (2) if both scum are outside of that, we lose. (because frankly i don't have too much faith in you breaking out of your yin tunnel even if we flip a scum outside the criminals because you're already finding every single thing i did in this game scummy and i bet you could do the same for chara.) (3) if there's 1 scum in that, i have to scream at someone while the deciding vote will be a townie who scumreads me. no thanks.In post 3615, Flea The Magician wrote:Context is incredibly fucking important. What do you lose from me, you, chara and someone else being in YOLO with Amy?
1) yup. Unlucky
2) The moment 1 scum is found outside of that, then my process is proven wrong and it's aborted. Simple as. Something called bias means I can find exactly what I want to find in your posts if I wanted to.
3) Deciding vote goes to Amy, ultimately.
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but that's second hand meta... something you despise so much?In post 3621, Tanner wrote:i thought of better / more recent examples of town!me caring very much about the possibility being yeeted if you care.In post 3608, Tanner wrote:good for them, i'm not like most town.
Spoiler:
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Guess I'm kinder than you.In post 3608, Tanner wrote:re 3598: the point wasn't *when* you called me survivalistic. the point was the fact that you did so at all shows that you have no clue about who i am or how i play. and your solve is wrong. why the fuck would i join that?
it's been a while since i've seen a wall that bad but here we go. i'm not even gonna spoiler this, i got to suffer reading this, others get to too.
Look I ain't here to cause beef, I'm here to solve the game.
So far, I'm doing pretty damned good.
If you're town, you got nothing to fear. because my plan will show I'm wrong before we get to Yolo.
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I have no intention of leaving the game, you're good.In post 3637, Morning Tweet wrote:oh am i being thrown out
That's fine, i was gonna reread when I got home but tbh, just dont let Flea/Chara/clidd out of the game and we win
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ProveIn post 3649, Amy Dunne wrote:In post 3600, Flea The Magician wrote:I haven't even looked at the full ISO and I'm seeing very little of a townie mindset here.
Humour me people, you lose nothing by keeping me, Tanner and Chara back with Amy.Flea is scum, because this whole I’m not getting limmed thing is disingenuous. Why? Because there is probably one scum in Clidd/Ydra, which would mean that we would then have no choice but to lim in Chara/Tanner/Flea.In post 3645, Flea The Magician wrote:I have no intention of leaving the game, you're good.In post 3637, Morning Tweet wrote:oh am i being thrown out
That's fine, i was gonna reread when I got home but tbh, just dont let Flea/Chara/clidd out of the game and we win
I had this wild tin foil theory yesterday that Flea/Tanner was the team because of how certain Flea was and I strongly suspected scum distancing but it really doesn’t look like scum theatre to me and now fae wants to prevent Chara from being limmed as well.
I don’t think Chara is scum and if it is, 100% never with Tanner or it never would have pushed so hard for Tanner to be voted, so that means that Chara/Tanner cannot both be scum and therefore Flea’s insistence on the criminal 100% = scum thing is transparently wrong.
The only thing that makes sense from fae’s case is that apparently Tanner is shit at reading me, because I don’t believe the case is credible.
So, I think so long as Flea never gets yeeted, we probably win.
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Evidence currently supports me.
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Because I'm not being eliminated.
Waste of effort.
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I can't wait to see you eat this.In post 3652, Amy Dunne wrote:Flea is SvS with one bussing scum in D1 Infinity wagon, it’s so god damned obvious.
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That's all I'm asking.
It will prove I'm right or that I'm wildly wrong.
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Hey something we actually agree on.In post 3654, Amy Dunne wrote:UNVOTE:
I’m going to unvote because it’s a slam dunk, Pooky and Tweetie are getting sentenced. We have 3 days to figure out the other two.
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Thanks
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well the intent was I will happily take the scum read and sit in the corner of "you dun goofed"
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I'm the scummiest scumfuck to ever scum.
I'm going to fucking laugh at each and every one of you when I'm right though.
VOTE: Tweet
Lets get this rolling and start the end game.
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Yeah, I have reads.In post 3675, Tanner wrote:do you have a problem with my ex-scumread on you, or is this an omgus-y read? because uh, no offense, but i get the idea that you kinda do those more often than you should. (which also. i don't bullshit a scumread on a townie that (1) i know has that reactionary omgus tendency that i (2) then make confirmed town but self-meta weeee)In post 3649, Amy Dunne wrote:The only thing that makes sense from fae’s case is that apparently Tanner is shit at reading me, because I don’t believe the case is credible.
is there a reason to try to figure out all 4 today? don't get me wrong, i enjoy having tweetie around, so besides having her help.In post 3654, Amy Dunne wrote:I’m going to unvote because it’s a slam dunk, Pooky and Tweetie are getting sentenced. We have 3 days to figure out the other two.
didn't think i'd ever hear clidd say the words "easy clap", but here we are.In post 3656, clidd wrote:For an easy clap Tanner + me chain would be gameover ig after Pooky and MT.
also i acknowledge that it is my turn in the Wallpost War i will get to it in a second
flea, are you willing to reveal what your backup plan is for when the mechanics turn out to be incorrect?
I've still played tradmaf, but this mechanic isn't tradmaf.
and Yggdrasil bit me hard enough to leave a scar.
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There is no scum in Ydra or Clidd.In post 3676, Amy Dunne wrote:If there is scum in either Ydra or Clidd and you’re hard opposed to Chara/Tanner, who else does that leave?In post 3671, Flea The Magician wrote:oh yeah we were on screw mechanics there werent we..
well the intent was I will happily take the scum read and sit in the corner of "you dun goofed"
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In post 3512, Morning Tweet wrote:I'm guessing if Chara is town then either Pooky or Ydrasse fooled me which smh if so but I think clidd is scum every time
i skimmed and like didnt someone figure out his stances on earlier days make sense with that?
Im kinda judging off these last pages, it rlly seems like ydrasse/pooky/tanner/flea town. I think Chara is making the best of this situation it can though as either alignment
if clidd is town I am lost, there's some theater or something probably I totally missed?? idk
Tweeties last will, essentially. I'm happy complying as frankly I still see that as a game winner.In post 3637, Morning Tweet wrote:oh am i being thrown out
That's fine, i was gonna reread when I got home but tbh, just dont let Flea/Chara/clidd out of the game and we win
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oh and lets face it, while I have tradmaf reads, my credibility is entirely shot. I become deadweight.In post 3675, Tanner wrote:flea, are you willing to reveal what your backup plan is for when the mechanics turn out to be incorrect?
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Lets face it all I have left at this point is my confidence, cause I got no credibility.In post 3690, Amy Dunne wrote:In post 3681, Flea The Magician wrote:I said I'd hammer anything no Tanner/Chara - and frankly now I'm annoyed people are wasting time casing me when I am literally never leaving the pit.How are you this certain?In post 3679, Flea The Magician wrote:There is no scum in Ydra or Clidd.In post 3676, Amy Dunne wrote:If there is scum in either Ydra or Clidd and you’re hard opposed to Chara/Tanner, who else does that leave?In post 3671, Flea The Magician wrote:oh yeah we were on screw mechanics there werent we..
well the intent was I will happily take the scum read and sit in the corner of "you dun goofed"
And if one of them are scum, why wouldn’t you be a possible candidate for sentencing?
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Absolutely not.In post 3694, Amy Dunne wrote:That means you’re now okay with Tanner?In post 3683, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 3512, Morning Tweet wrote:I'm guessing if Chara is town then either Pooky or Ydrasse fooled me which smh if so but I think clidd is scum every time
i skimmed and like didnt someone figure out his stances on earlier days make sense with that?
Im kinda judging off these last pages, it rlly seems like ydrasse/pooky/tanner/flea town. I think Chara is making the best of this situation it can though as either alignment
if clidd is town I am lost, there's some theater or something probably I totally missed?? idkTweeties last will, essentially. I'm happy complying as frankly I still see that as a game winner.In post 3637, Morning Tweet wrote:oh am i being thrown out
That's fine, i was gonna reread when I got home but tbh, just dont let Flea/Chara/clidd out of the game and we win
I'm happy to comply doesn't imply that I'm happy to release Tanner.
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Fair.In post 3693, Amy Dunne wrote:I don’t think so because I unvoted because I want to hear her thoughts. Why ram this through?
If Pooky also gets rammed through tomorrow, 100% it’s scum trying to derail his solve.
Honestly this is just winding the snot out of me at this point because people keep dangling carrots then kicking me in the proverbials.
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Who said I had one?In post 3699, Amy Dunne wrote:Because other than the Yin thing, what is your case against Chara?
@Flea
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Tell that to the hyperfocus. I'm trying to replay Pokemon Blue to get all the cheevos and potentially stat to learn speedrunning.In post 3703, Ydrasse wrote:flea if it’s wearing you down/you don’t have the energy you don’t have to post
i am learning this lesson as well
Plus I know for a fact I'll get a "Hah flea froze" read.
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I may or may not have utilised the Mew Glitch to obtain both a mew and a Chansey
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Nightkill mechanic potentially.In post 3709, Tanner wrote:hm. so if the mason pt practically isn't being used for anything right now, why does it exist? either to try to show the difference between yin/yang (or highlight that yang is the good one), or someone else will join it later on too. but "losing" another townie to the masonry seems a bit overkill.
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I was scum last SS game.In post 3716, Amy Dunne wrote:Royalty was scum last SS game.In post 3712, Yang wrote:Flea forged all of faer patents of nobility. However, they were forged by a maid who taught herself to write on her own by candlelight. This maid studied countless illustrated books, deciphering the patterns. It was not possible to sneak into the library and be in it overnight unless she skipped dinner hour, so she worked with pangs of hunger. All so that one day she complete her task. Flea every morning would bring her breakfast. Many a day that would make her late to the docks, and the punishment for being late for unloading a cargo was a brawl with the overseer. Fae was strong enough to win the fights, but only won one time, because fae saw in the overseer's eyes that fae would be fired if fae won anymore. So there was a greater measure of pain when so many of these fights were lost. Fae bad to be able to afford the maid's breakfast.
We may use the word forged to describe how the patents of nobility would created, but in this way they are more genuine than perhaps any in the world and Flea is true royalty.
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Clefable is an absolute tank and easier to obtain than Chansey. STAB Body Slam in Gen1 cheese. Until you realise normal types can't be paralysed by it.In post 3718, Yang wrote:I speedran pokemon red with Clefable runs because they are fun asfuck. She gets water gun, then STAB mega punch off the bat. Bubble beam real soon. Lt. Surge's gym gives tbolt which is absurdly good obviously. Body slam shows up was too early in the game for its base power so when it has STAB on your carry it's crazy. Eventually there is ice beam. You don't have to feel obligated to do the ohko move glitch crap because Clefable can't learn any of it. No earthquake either but you don't need it. You beat poison with Psychic. Which is from a random guy in a house.In post 3705, Flea The Magician wrote:Tell that to the hyperfocus. I'm trying to replay Pokemon Blue to get all the cheevos and potentially stat to learn speedrunning.In post 3703, Ydrasse wrote:flea if it’s wearing you down/you don’t have the energy you don’t have to post
i am learning this lesson as well
Plus I know for a fact I'll get a "Hah flea froze" read.
The main thing that makes it more fun than Nidoking runs to me is that she keeps ohkoing in endgames without the fissure cheese you would need to do with Nidoking, and she's much less of a baby when you transition carries off from Squirtle. And running through mt moon and being like "the game doesn't give me access to repel yet, so sad " is so fun. Also she's so cute and the best ever. She's Clefable.
I never did Squirtle or Squirtle Zapdos runs, never would.
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Detonated, as in, exploded so nothing remained.In post 3726, Amy Dunne wrote:But Tweetie and Pooky could only be dead masons then and you normally don’t have dead town in a masonry.In post 3722, Tanner wrote:lol i use it too clidd, i just found it funny coming from someone like you who gives off such a serious and formal vibe.
and uh yeah, another nightkill would be ridiculous. i'm just brainstorming the reasons that mason pt has for existing, because it doesn't seem like it's very useful right now. and my guess is that things don't just exist for the sake of it.
Also, why isn’t Ircher in it then? Masonry existed before he was detonated.
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I'm going to let you think that over before I even begin to consider answering.In post 3730, Amy Dunne wrote:If sentenced town was allowed in masonry, wouldn’t Robert be in there then?In post 3728, Flea The Magician wrote:Detonated, as in, exploded so nothing remained.In post 3726, Amy Dunne wrote:But Tweetie and Pooky could only be dead masons then and you normally don’t have dead town in a masonry.In post 3722, Tanner wrote:lol i use it too clidd, i just found it funny coming from someone like you who gives off such a serious and formal vibe.
and uh yeah, another nightkill would be ridiculous. i'm just brainstorming the reasons that mason pt has for existing, because it doesn't seem like it's very useful right now. and my guess is that things don't just exist for the sake of it.
Also, why isn’t Ircher in it then? Masonry existed before he was detonated.
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my role name was Assassin.In post 3733, Amy Dunne wrote:Weren’t you also Royalty?In post 3723, Flea The Magician wrote:I was scum last SS game.In post 3716, Amy Dunne wrote:Royalty was scum last SS game.In post 3712, Yang wrote:Flea forged all of faer patents of nobility. However, they were forged by a maid who taught herself to write on her own by candlelight. This maid studied countless illustrated books, deciphering the patterns. It was not possible to sneak into the library and be in it overnight unless she skipped dinner hour, so she worked with pangs of hunger. All so that one day she complete her task. Flea every morning would bring her breakfast. Many a day that would make her late to the docks, and the punishment for being late for unloading a cargo was a brawl with the overseer. Fae was strong enough to win the fights, but only won one time, because fae saw in the overseer's eyes that fae would be fired if fae won anymore. So there was a greater measure of pain when so many of these fights were lost. Fae bad to be able to afford the maid's breakfast.
We may use the word forged to describe how the patents of nobility would created, but in this way they are more genuine than perhaps any in the world and Flea is true royalty.
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How many night kills have we had?In post 3734, Amy Dunne wrote:Yes I obviously know it happened before masonry existed, my point here is you say Ircher isn’t viable because detonated, so as a sentenced townie - if that were truly the mechanic, it would be possible. Robert obviously wouldn’t have been sent to the dead thread.In post 3732, Flea The Magician wrote:I'm going to let you think that over before I even begin to consider answering.In post 3730, Amy Dunne wrote:If sentenced town was allowed in masonry, wouldn’t Robert be in there then?In post 3728, Flea The Magician wrote:Detonated, as in, exploded so nothing remained.In post 3726, Amy Dunne wrote:But Tweetie and Pooky could only be dead masons then and you normally don’t have dead town in a masonry.In post 3722, Tanner wrote:lol i use it too clidd, i just found it funny coming from someone like you who gives off such a serious and formal vibe.
and uh yeah, another nightkill would be ridiculous. i'm just brainstorming the reasons that mason pt has for existing, because it doesn't seem like it's very useful right now. and my guess is that things don't just exist for the sake of it.
Also, why isn’t Ircher in it then? Masonry existed before he was detonated.
At any rate, it’s pretty much pointless to speculate on this because I seriously doubt Tweetie and Pooky will become a part of it.
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Nightkills are mafia controlled. Eliminations are town controlled.
You are (potentially) a nightkill, you cannot leave the pit.
Robert was removed by vote and from the game.
Ircher was detonated and removed from the game.
8 in game, 5+1 vs 2
Remove one. 4+1 vs 2.
kill one. 3+2 vs 2.
remove one. 1+2 vs 2
Kill one. 0+3 vs 2 - scum cannot win. no elimination to secure.
alternative.
8 in game. 5+1 vs 2
Mislim. 5+1 vs 1
Kill. 4+2 vs 1
Elim. 3+2 vs 1.
Kill. 3+3 vs 1.
Elim 2+3 vs 1.
Kill 1+4 vs 1
Coinflip.
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I'd hardly consider that an answer beyond "Because its what I do."In post 3753, Ydrasse wrote:no he answered this...In post 3146, Yin wrote:The endless day is over at last. But the acrid smell still burns in the man's nostrils. The heat hasn't left, it just has a new shape.
"You didn't need me at all, did you? Thats what you wanted to say." He spits out the words, knowing he won't get an answer. The show goes on and he's left standing on an empty stage.
Birds fly. Fish swim. Worms wiggle in the dirt.
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My solve has error room allowing for that, so why don't me, clidd, you and Tanner have a YOLO party with Amy?In post 3796, Chara wrote:i feel like if Flea actually wanted faer solve to go through fae would be doing something besides scumcase Tanner. scumcasing me, or towncasing clidd, because clidd also needs to be town for faer solve to be right.
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I'm aware of my meta enough to know my scum game is a lot stronger than my town game.In post 3800, Chara wrote:not really a glee. it's more that there's a lot town Flea could be doing here that fae isn't. i think fae is perfectly aware of faer town meta.
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Scum me would play this entirely different.In post 3803, Chara wrote:i'm more confident in Tanner being town than Ydrasse right now.
also if you're trying to say that scum you wouldn't be being scumread like you are now, i'm not buying it at all. Yggdrasil just happened.
Scum me also wouldn't care about being scumread.
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What else can I do?
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The moment I'm wrong, I'll shut up and be a double voter for Amy.
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Theoretically no.In post 3807, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't think it's possible for a town player toknowthey are right.
Reality is it happens often.
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There is always margin for error. That margin lies at <1% currently.
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Thing is I'm high suspicious of you anyway, because your scum game scares me.In post 3814, Chara wrote:i do think Flea is scum here, 3801 looks like a deflection because Flea doesn't actually have a reason for me to be scum but is trying to pretend fae is sure up until the moment fae can't.
knowing mentally I'm nowhere near even 25% capacity, I'm going to bias myself if I try and case you.
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All I'm asking for, at the moment, is tweetie, pooky and ydrasee get sentenced.
Because there's no red flips there.
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I can give you a game of mine matching any meta you want, town or scum.In post 3818, Amy Dunne wrote:I’ll be honest Flea, remember when you strongly towncased Titus in Happy Face? You gave a good solid argument for it and you were super obvious town in that game from the getgo, so I know you’re capable of making reads that are not based in mech.
Being suspicious of Chara’s scumgame isn’t a good reason to sr it in THIS one. Your play sounds very similar to Royalty when you illogically tunnelled Pooky and Ydrasse. You also professed conviction in that but it didn’t sound at all like your conviction in Titus!town in Happy Face where it was beyond obvious you believed in that read.
Also if you were on D1 apparently so opposed to Infinty wagon, why didn’t you try to derail it? Had you tried hard to swing the wagon even to Nakata instead of vanity voting Tanner, I would tr you. Why? Because scum buddies generally don’t work so hard to be at extreme cross purposes.
You knew Tanner had 0 chance of being yeeted and that at some point Nakata absolutely did but you only switched to him when Infinty was already at 6 votes. That reads like you were onboard with that wagon, despite your claims to the contrary and we know at least one scum bussed her and that’s why you look like whomever’s the bussing scum’s buddy.
Happy Face mafia was genuinely a blip in my capability, I have no idea how I did that AND LIVED.
I believed in infinitown D1, I honestly did. I didn't like the tells being used against her. Still don't, honestly.
Nakata I was also sure of being scum D1.
I am actually really happy with my reads this game, beyond the mech stuff.
There happens a thing where occasionally I'll pick up a read D1, and I'll tunnel on it, and I'll fight for that read to the bitter end. This is one of those games I guess.
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I wasn't for, I wasn't opposed.
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This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.
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In post 3826, Amy Dunne wrote:Okay Flea I’ll bite. Your Chara/Tanner theory doesn’t make sense from a wifom perspective. Why? Because if Yin actually handed us the entire scumteam and we yeeted either of Tanner/Chara and either flipped scum, the surviving one would then be doomed and scum would obviously lose. That’s why your Tanner/Chara theory doesn’t make logical sense based off of Yin wifom.In post 3823, Flea The Magician wrote:And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.
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You either drink or you leave and accept what happens either way.
Glug glug time.
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In post 3830, Amy Dunne wrote:It means that at least one - if not both of them are town, because we were meant to believe him because of Infinity/Nakata flips but why would he tell us the entire scumteam?In post 3827, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 3826, Amy Dunne wrote:Okay Flea I’ll bite. Your Chara/Tanner theory doesn’t make sense from a wifom perspective. Why? Because if Yin actually handed us the entire scumteam and we yeeted either of Tanner/Chara and either flipped scum, the surviving one would then be doomed and scum would obviously lose. That’s why your Tanner/Chara theory doesn’t make logical sense based off of Yin wifom.In post 3823, Flea The Magician wrote:And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.occams
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razor.
Yin knew about the reveal obviously which is why he’s the one that wound up detonating Ircher and not Nakata.
We have been - through an extended process of elimination - given the solve to the game.Wiki wrote:Occam's razor, Ockham's razor, Ocham's razor, or the principle of parsimony or law of parsimony is the problem-solving principle that "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity", sometimes inaccurately paraphrased as "the simplest explanation is usually the best one."
I have pointed out my own experiences with this lil dilemma.
and while town blames me for their incoming loss, I will laugh soundly at all of you.
I will not vote Tanner.
I will not vote Chara.
and I most certainly will not be dignified.
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Yin is singlemindedly playing towards scum wincon - and has been from the start.
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Then why is it being challenged.In post 3844, Amy Dunne wrote:Absolutely no one is disagreeing with this.In post 3841, Flea The Magician wrote:I need to make scoreboards for how often i saw things.
Yin is singlemindedly playing towards scum wincon - and has been from the start.
You are breaking your own logic here.
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Yin needed to detonate ircher to remove a confirmed town voice from acting against the scum win condition and we were attempting to to speedyeet ircher.In post 3840, Amy Dunne wrote:How is this Occams Razor?In post 3838, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 3830, Amy Dunne wrote:It means that at least one - if not both of them are town, because we were meant to believe him because of Infinity/Nakata flips but why would he tell us the entire scumteam?In post 3827, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 3826, Amy Dunne wrote:Okay Flea I’ll bite. Your Chara/Tanner theory doesn’t make sense from a wifom perspective. Why? Because if Yin actually handed us the entire scumteam and we yeeted either of Tanner/Chara and either flipped scum, the surviving one would then be doomed and scum would obviously lose. That’s why your Tanner/Chara theory doesn’t make logical sense based off of Yin wifom.In post 3823, Flea The Magician wrote:And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.occams
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razor.
Yin knew about the reveal obviously which is why he’s the one that wound up detonating Ircher and not Nakata.We have been - through an extended process of elimination - given the solve to the game.Wiki wrote:Occam's razor, Ockham's razor, Ocham's razor, or the principle of parsimony or law of parsimony is the problem-solving principle that "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity", sometimes inaccurately paraphrased as "the simplest explanation is usually the best one."
I have pointed out my own experiences with this lil dilemma.
and while town blames me for their incoming loss, I will laugh soundly at all of you.
I will not vote Tanner.
I will not vote Chara.
and I most certainly will not be dignified.
Now had Yin not actually detonated Ircher, your theory would be more believable
Yin absolutely had to detonate to meet the wincon for scum.
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Clidd we've clashed many many times. My persistance is one of the reasons for that. And you know I do not back down when we've played and I've done it as town.In post 3849, clidd wrote:Flea's theory doesn't seem likely to me considering that we wouldn't just solve the game by asking those questions, but the process fae's using doesn't sound malicious, though the persistence isn't pleasant.
Need to see a flip to judge better.
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What was scums initially hidden objective Amy?In post 3852, Amy Dunne wrote:Yes I obviously know that, which is why I don’t believe he laid out the entire scumteam.In post 3850, Flea The Magician wrote:Yin needed to detonate ircher to remove a confirmed town voice from acting against the scum win condition and we were attempting to to speedyeet ircher.In post 3840, Amy Dunne wrote:How is this Occams Razor?In post 3838, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 3830, Amy Dunne wrote:It means that at least one - if not both of them are town, because we were meant to believe him because of Infinity/Nakata flips but why would he tell us the entire scumteam?In post 3827, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 3826, Amy Dunne wrote:Okay Flea I’ll bite. Your Chara/Tanner theory doesn’t make sense from a wifom perspective. Why? Because if Yin actually handed us the entire scumteam and we yeeted either of Tanner/Chara and either flipped scum, the surviving one would then be doomed and scum would obviously lose. That’s why your Tanner/Chara theory doesn’t make logical sense based off of Yin wifom.In post 3823, Flea The Magician wrote:And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.occams
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razor.
Yin knew about the reveal obviously which is why he’s the one that wound up detonating Ircher and not Nakata.We have been - through an extended process of elimination - given the solve to the game.Wiki wrote:Occam's razor, Ockham's razor, Ocham's razor, or the principle of parsimony or law of parsimony is the problem-solving principle that "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity", sometimes inaccurately paraphrased as "the simplest explanation is usually the best one."
I have pointed out my own experiences with this lil dilemma.
and while town blames me for their incoming loss, I will laugh soundly at all of you.
I will not vote Tanner.
I will not vote Chara.
and I most certainly will not be dignified.
Now had Yin not actually detonated Ircher, your theory would be more believable
Yin absolutely had to detonate to meet the wincon for scum.
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He wasn't before?
Yin and Yang are SIMPLE concepts. They are opposites, they are in balance.
There is light in darkness.
There is darkness in light.
I can give you examples of both in real world situations.
Sometimes you just have to find it.
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I actually give up.In post 3867, Amy Dunne wrote:I rn think Flea/Clidd team.
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Guess what nerds. FOMO and a god complex stop me leaving the game for long.In post 3893, Tanner wrote:flea could be scum. like the whole thing around eod1 of sitting on my wagon then going on nakata then back to sitting on my wagon for the next two days is ???. but i feel like i keep banging my head against the wall because flea by far feels like the most anti-town slot but what does scum!flea think fae is doing here? those wallposts against me certainly aren't going to get fae ascended? like what is the endgame? fae keeps talking about yin wifom but fae is actually betting on wifom surrounding faer slot to get out?In post 3883, Amy Dunne wrote:Idk but I’m having a hard time thinking it isn’t Flea. It’s possible Pooky could be right on Ydra but outside of the whole conviction thing, I’m not really seeing it. Scum!Ydra does these weird hedgey kinds of posts but I do definitely believe Pooky thinks this because he keeps asking Tweetie to persuade him on her Ydra tr.
But after Pooky and Tweetie, you and Chara seem to be doing the most solving.
Well, you may be right. I would like to see Ydra doing some more solving. I know she’s not feeling well but then apparently so is Chara and that’s not stopping it.
i thought ydra was townie because her reads (esp her reads on me) seemed to have like, a deeper level of thought than i've seen scum!her have, but like she was pretty obvscum to me in TM so of course if she drew scum again here she would be playing differently. and maaaybe her infy/nakata partner read on d1 feels a bit tmi and pooky does bring up good points but no pair outright *makes sense* and that is why i want out
Lemme make this perfectly clear.
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Yeah, because I have absolutely limitless range as scum and I fully believed in Isis ability to carry me, I was also slightly annoyed because I absolutely should have been stumped in SS3 but for some reason, wasn't.In post 3899, Amy Dunne wrote:You also self-voted as a play to get tr in Royalty which backfired and Idk why you keep repeating this?In post 3896, Flea The Magician wrote:Guess what nerds. FOMO and a god complex stop me leaving the game for long.In post 3893, Tanner wrote:flea could be scum. like the whole thing around eod1 of sitting on my wagon then going on nakata then back to sitting on my wagon for the next two days is ???. but i feel like i keep banging my head against the wall because flea by far feels like the most anti-town slot but what does scum!flea think fae is doing here? those wallposts against me certainly aren't going to get fae ascended? like what is the endgame? fae keeps talking about yin wifom but fae is actually betting on wifom surrounding faer slot to get out?In post 3883, Amy Dunne wrote:Idk but I’m having a hard time thinking it isn’t Flea. It’s possible Pooky could be right on Ydra but outside of the whole conviction thing, I’m not really seeing it. Scum!Ydra does these weird hedgey kinds of posts but I do definitely believe Pooky thinks this because he keeps asking Tweetie to persuade him on her Ydra tr.
But after Pooky and Tweetie, you and Chara seem to be doing the most solving.
Well, you may be right. I would like to see Ydra doing some more solving. I know she’s not feeling well but then apparently so is Chara and that’s not stopping it.
i thought ydra was townie because her reads (esp her reads on me) seemed to have like, a deeper level of thought than i've seen scum!her have, but like she was pretty obvscum to me in TM so of course if she drew scum again here she would be playing differently. and maaaybe her infy/nakata partner read on d1 feels a bit tmi and pooky does bring up good points but no pair outright *makes sense* and that is why i want out
Lemme make this perfectly clear.
I, have ZERO intention of being removed from this game. I will remain in the pit at end-game. Anything suggesting otherwise, anything scumcasing me, is busywork and not productive for town. If i am scum or not, does. not. matter. at. this. point. and hasn't for a long time.
I just can’t understand how you can be so tunnelled on a Tanner/Chara team because that’s what scum!Yin said.
Difference is here, I am aiming for an end-game sceanario where I win without being eliminated.
I am actually going to lose my shit at the sheer blindness of people here.
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Good game. you earned your win.In post 3900, Tanner wrote:@flea, okay, cool? but like, if you're scum maybe your best bet is bluffing here. i'm sorry if you're town and feeling that way but i'm not just gonna take things at face value and just *stop thinking about them* because you're right now saying in big bold letters that you're never leaving. if it bothers you, feel free to ignore me.
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Amy you're a double voter. have fun.
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UNVOTE:In post 3885, Hectic wrote:
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actually given how blind you are, I'll just go back to just hammering.In post 3909, Amy Dunne wrote:What is your point? Yin and Yang are both scum?In post 3904, Flea The Magician wrote:Yeah, because I have absolutely limitless range as scum and I fully believed in Isis ability to carry me, I was also slightly annoyed because I absolutely should have been stumped in SS3 but for some reason, wasn't.In post 3899, Amy Dunne wrote:You also self-voted as a play to get tr in Royalty which backfired and Idk why you keep repeating this?In post 3896, Flea The Magician wrote:Guess what nerds. FOMO and a god complex stop me leaving the game for long.In post 3893, Tanner wrote:flea could be scum. like the whole thing around eod1 of sitting on my wagon then going on nakata then back to sitting on my wagon for the next two days is ???. but i feel like i keep banging my head against the wall because flea by far feels like the most anti-town slot but what does scum!flea think fae is doing here? those wallposts against me certainly aren't going to get fae ascended? like what is the endgame? fae keeps talking about yin wifom but fae is actually betting on wifom surrounding faer slot to get out?In post 3883, Amy Dunne wrote:Idk but I’m having a hard time thinking it isn’t Flea. It’s possible Pooky could be right on Ydra but outside of the whole conviction thing, I’m not really seeing it. Scum!Ydra does these weird hedgey kinds of posts but I do definitely believe Pooky thinks this because he keeps asking Tweetie to persuade him on her Ydra tr.
But after Pooky and Tweetie, you and Chara seem to be doing the most solving.
Well, you may be right. I would like to see Ydra doing some more solving. I know she’s not feeling well but then apparently so is Chara and that’s not stopping it.
i thought ydra was townie because her reads (esp her reads on me) seemed to have like, a deeper level of thought than i've seen scum!her have, but like she was pretty obvscum to me in TM so of course if she drew scum again here she would be playing differently. and maaaybe her infy/nakata partner read on d1 feels a bit tmi and pooky does bring up good points but no pair outright *makes sense* and that is why i want out
Lemme make this perfectly clear.
I, have ZERO intention of being removed from this game. I will remain in the pit at end-game. Anything suggesting otherwise, anything scumcasing me, is busywork and not productive for town. If i am scum or not, does. not. matter. at. this. point. and hasn't for a long time.
I just can’t understand how you can be so tunnelled on a Tanner/Chara team because that’s what scum!Yin said.
Difference is here, I am aiming for an end-game sceanario where I win without being eliminated.
I am actually going to lose my shit at the sheer blindness of people here.
Spoiler: Ya'll are looking at Yin and Yang like it's this...
Spoiler: when it's actually this.
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First scum will not self hammer. The cred is needed to secure their other being yeet.
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Congratulations you qualify to be a DnD player.
Now my cranky ass is going to try and sleep in this stupid fucking heat.
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no working required. I already know why because it's exactly what scumFlea would do.In post 3926, Tanner wrote:never saying no to a hammer test for myself, but flea's latests posts make me feel like fae is already working on the reason to Not consider me conftown after i don't hammer myself
amy, fae included pictures of yin and yang in 3904.
But given pissing into the wind is better option right now, I'm not going to bother and just let town consume itself.
Like I said, GG, you won.
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In post 3929, Tanner wrote:truth be told i was thinking about hammering myself as soon as i got on y-1 to (1) get the fuck out of here and (2) reaction test, but if y'all want me in the game a bit longer i promise i will not
Just writes itself some days...In post 3931, Tanner wrote:sorry to disappoint, i am not you, scum!me takes that self hammer as soon as the opportunity presents
but it doesn't matter, if i'm tested noe i'm getting flipped soon so whatever. gonna be fun to read from the dead thread.
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Read the post until you get it. Because frankly I'm fed up of running up a 1:20 incline.In post 3932, Amy Dunne wrote:Yes, that’s why I asked fae that question and being told i’m wrong is kind’ve just exasperating. Spell it out fir me. I made my guess, if it’s wrong, just correct me.In post 3926, Tanner wrote:never saying no to a hammer test for myself, but flea's latests posts make me feel like fae is already working on the reason to Not consider me conftown after i don't hammer myself
amy, fae included pictures of yin and yang in 3904.
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depends how deep your buddy is set upIn post 3935, Tanner wrote:one is written from a town perspective the other from a scum one
town!me maybe does selfhammer immediately but won't do it if the game really doesn't want me to
scum!me always selfhammers
idk why i bother because you're gonna nitpick everything i say anyway but
Pretty well looking at it.
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Light and Darkness exist in balance.
Each requires the other.
Each exists within the other. It just has to be found
Shadows in the day.
Candles at night.
Yin is scum.
Yin the darkness.
Yang is town
Yang is the light.
Yin represents femininity
Yang represents masculinity.
oh shit it got reversed, oh no!!! /s
Yin is darkness that allows the light to exist and in helping the scum achieve their wincon as the simple concept of darkness the light has been given a solution.
IN ITS SIMPLEST FORM YIN HAS PROVIDED THE ANSWERS.
THIS IS A MOFUGGING SILENT STAR GAME.
GAMES WHERE THERE'S TWO MECHANICS AT WORK.
GUESS WHAT YIN AND YANG HAS?! Absolutely nothing I do sincerely apologise this has been a most regretful waste of everyones time. This is quite simply an invert game of traditional mafia. toodle pip!.
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Yin and Yang are absolute. Light and Dark. Opposing forces.
The second image shows how I'm seeing this.
Yin and Yang are constantly moving, in complementary and contradictory ways.
The difference is the dots, representing the balance, and the requirement of they need each other.
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...In post 3940, Amy Dunne wrote:This would actually make sense - if this game was exactly like Trust Fall. In the first TF game, scum!me didn’t insta self-hammer to help out my buddy who I actually wanted escaped first but it still worked out, most probably because town!NK15 tf’d my buddy who did in fact insta self-hammer.In post 3936, Flea The Magician wrote:depends how deep your buddy is set upIn post 3935, Tanner wrote:one is written from a town perspective the other from a scum one
town!me maybe does selfhammer immediately but won't do it if the game really doesn't want me to
scum!me always selfhammers
idk why i bother because you're gonna nitpick everything i say anyway but
Pretty well looking at it.
o.o
you actually got what I was thinking...
o.o;
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no pooky, just me wiping out my own stability for another week...In post 3943, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:are we just being trolled here
you know it's 1am, it's 59f, and its 98% air humidity here?
I can't sleep....
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Yin and Yang are the 3rd faction. They can't win, they can't lose. They have direct influence on the game.
Yin is darkness, hoping to help darkness spread.
Without Yang, Yin is nothing.
As darkness spreads, so does light, and the value of light grows.
Ever go and star gaze? You need to find as dark an area as you can get so you can see each and every speck of light.
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Neither does my town game.
That you're all wigging out on me, means I'm doing something right when I get a red PM.
I will openly challenge that, I have maintained that, I will continue to maintain that in apparently what is becoming a silent star tradition.
I'm not even asking for blind trust.
My theory is backed so far. and I'll drop my notes here again for you to look over yourself. I even have post numbers for the bulk of it.
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Which is a single minded effort to help scum win.In post 3950, Amy Dunne wrote:Except Yin detonated Ircher which clearly helped scum wincon.In post 3948, Flea The Magician wrote:Yin is not scum...
Yin and Yang are the 3rd faction. They can't win, they can't lose. They have direct influence on the game.
Yin is darkness, hoping to help darkness spread.
Without Yang, Yin is nothing.
As darkness spreads, so does light, and the value of light grows.
Ever go and star gaze? You need to find as dark an area as you can get so you can see each and every speck of light.
Scum could not detonate Ircher without claiming, which destroys their wincon.
Yin or Yang absolutely had to be the ones mechanically to do that.
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Put Tanner to E1, tanner does not self hammer and clears.In post 3949, Morning Tweet wrote:??????In post 3918, Flea The Magician wrote:This is actually painful at this point...
First scum will not self hammer. The cred is needed to secure their other being yeet.
You realize our alignments are shown upon being eliminated right??
This makes no sense at all
Tanner is now bias-clear town to the majoriy of people.
Tanner works on getting Chara yeet.
"oh no drama!"
Tanner gets yeet because he's townier than the alternatives and he's clear.
GG.
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In post 2, Hectic wrote:AWAKEN,VILLAGERSOF THE PIT!
A harsh cry jolts you from your sleep, and you awaken to unfamiliar surroundings inside a stone house of sorts. The last thing you remember is being captured and knocked out by the Royal Guard...
You leave your makeshift house to investigate. Others follow from similar houses, seeming to arise with expressions matching your own.
Spoiler:
A man wearing a top hat greets you all.
Welcome to your new home, friends - the pit. You're all here for crimes of treason, murder, theft, arson... you name it. However, there is a slight problem; I'm fairly certain aBut no matter! I'm sure if you spend some time together, you will become very good judges of each other's character. Sentence someone between yourselves to death by nightfall, good luck. Oh, and one last thing!good amount of you are innocent and wrongfully convicted.
He points to a man and a woman standing a little apart from the main group.
This is Yin and Yang; they'll be accompanying you here in the pit. Yin may have vital information for you and will answer any question you ask. Yang may or may not have information for you and may or may not answer any questions you ask.
The man transforms into a bat and flies out of the pit, the 100 metre stone walls powerless in stopping him. The Menagerie sure did have a toll on this world...
Spoiler:
You look around at your newly acquaintedfriends.
In post 2885, Hectic wrote:In the early hours of the morning, you find a small piece of parchment lying on the ground of the pit. You read it aloud as the other villagers gather around you.
Spoiler:
You have all been deceived. The Imperials have no interest in justice, they only have interest in finding the most exceptionalto recruit to their Royal Army, and to make use of theircriminalsskills. You've been under the impression that you've been sentencing people to death. In reality, being sentenced means freedom from the pit.criminal
You do not know who I am, but I ask that you please heed my words and do not let the Mayor find out. Sentence those amongst you who you think are the most good and deserving to leave, and then perhaps... we can break this system from the inside.
TRUE Win Conditions:
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Eeeey right on time.In post 3961, Morning Tweet wrote:I dont see anything that says criminals have to be mafia, have you considered the possibility of town criminals?
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That is the play I would make, that is the play AMYIn post 3964, Morning Tweet wrote:You have to concede that if the team is Tanner/Chara they always lose.In post 3960, Flea The Magician wrote:That moment when you lightbulb the thing thats been annoying you at the back of your head.
I'm the only one getting trolled here Tweetie.. I keep thinking people are actually going to listen and it reinvigorates me to try and win...
We eliminate Tanner -> he flips scum -> we never eliminate Chara
You have to be trolling if you think Tanner as scum will refuse to self hammer on X-1 and proceed to somehow get Chara eliminated, and then SOMEHOW get eliminated himself
Tanner doomed himself. That's the funniest thing here.
It was down to asking the right questions and the right people.
We got fucking lucky.
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Read it tweetie. I'm not going to lead the charge here because nobody will follow me. Hell I even made it easy.In post 3965, Morning Tweet wrote:No but seriously, what point are you making with the flavourIn post 3963, Flea The Magician wrote:Eeeey right on time.In post 3961, Morning Tweet wrote:I dont see anything that says criminals have to be mafia, have you considered the possibility of town criminals?
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Kudos to both NPCs for playing this out so well btw.In post 3959, Flea The Magician wrote:Yin may have vital information for you and will answer any question you ask. Yang may or may not have information for you and may or may not answer any questions you ask.
and according to the flavour, yes, just not in the pit in which the context of the game is set in.
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Is it though?In post 3970, Morning Tweet wrote:If Hectic actually gave us the names of the entire scumteam on a silver platter because we ASKED, I will concede you were right. And also that this game was designed terribly
Is it really that badly designed?
You cannot account for human stupidity.
Anyone who has ever been a Games Master, Dungeon Master, Storyteller, Narrator, etc will tell you this is the most important lesson you need to learn.
We had to work for those names tweetie. We had to work out which questions to ask, and even then who to ask about.
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How many games mechanically fall apart because someone doesn't take notes?
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This is still mafia, it's just not traditional mafia.
You cannot account for human stupidity.
You cannot expect even the most competent team to succeed.
We each get 1 question in 24 hours, Yin has 18 posts.
We'd need to be coordinated from the start about what we're asking.
Something I was resisted from the start, even when trying to determine truthfulness.
We're a bunch of randoms trying to work something out.
"Human stupidity"
We're going to argue, bitch and moan about it and disagree.
Add malicious factors deliberately stirring the pot.
Human stupidity becomes human idiocy.
And then there's occams razor.
It's a mafia game, it can't be THAT simple. That's rubbish if it is.
it isn't, it's fucking brilliant and given the games Hectic has come up with this is a damn good cherry for the top of that cake.
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Adding onto this.In post 3980, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i mean this is literally the same thing flea did during ss3 which was repeat one thing over and over again. I wouldnt read it one way or the other because im pretty sure town flea could do this too?
im just focussing my energy on the people i can read.
Mafia is a game of psychology.
Confidence is powerful.
I'm actually annoyed at how often I'm having to repeat here because I've answered all these things before.
SS3 I genuinely hated because I should have been stumped and allowed to openwolf, instead I had to AtE the fuck through that and it still didn't work.
And I still feel bad for it, because I drained the life out of Pooks and Ydrasse and genuinely expected them to hate me for that.
Student council btw, i wouldn't drop my SR on Purple Heart and kept repeating myself there, I was town.
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Doesn't matter. This has been established.In post 3987, clidd wrote:Ok, Flea is scum.
Reading me is pointless, because I can win while I'm in the pit.
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But we didn't. And we stumbled on that by a complete accident by pooky asking about their public masonry.In post 3990, Morning Tweet wrote:Flea it literally takes about ten questions to get all the criminals if you know what you're doing.In post 3986, Flea The Magician wrote:This is still mafia, it's just not traditional mafia.
You cannot account for human stupidity.
You cannot expect even the most competent team to succeed.
We each get 1 question in 24 hours, Yin has 18 posts.
We'd need to be coordinated from the start about what we're asking.
A single person can solve the whole thing on their own. Try thirteen. It was gonna happen
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Never said you were scum Clidd. I know you're town. you appear to be joining me at the bottom of the general consensus list, however.In post 3996, clidd wrote:If you're town we're going to lose this because I'm not scum.In post 3995, Flea The Magician wrote:Doesn't matter. This has been established.In post 3987, clidd wrote:Ok, Flea is scum.
Reading me is pointless, because I can win while I'm in the pit.
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You drive, Chara?In post 3994, Chara wrote:but this isn't a puzzle in a tabletop campaign. it's mafia.
Human Stupidity is something you're taught and expected to account for in the UK driving test.
Ever work in Retail?
human stupidity at its finest.
Many applications, not just tabletop.
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It's not dumb, it's bloody genius.In post 4001, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont really think hectic is dumb tho
People make things harder on themselves all the time.
Trust me I have ADHD and Autism, it's like our specialty.
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Hell even the scum I'm pushing is agreeing with me on this one.
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It's an every day psychological concept...In post 4006, Chara wrote:Isis doesn't use "human stupidity" in her setup design and i doubt Hectic does either. this is a mafia game, it's not a real-world scenario.In post 4000, Flea The Magician wrote:You drive, Chara?In post 3994, Chara wrote:but this isn't a puzzle in a tabletop campaign. it's mafia.
Human Stupidity is something you're taught and expected to account for in the UK driving test.
Ever work in Retail?
human stupidity at its finest.
Many applications, not just tabletop.
... in a game that relies on psychology....
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Human stupidity.
These go hand in hand.
and are an amazing base for a game.
Especially after Yggdrasil.
you know I promised us I'd be more confident in my mech spec after that game?
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Alternatively, you can just not bait me.In post 4076, Tanner wrote:thisIn post 3964, Morning Tweet wrote:You have to be trolling if you think Tanner as scum will refuse to self hammer on X-1 and proceed to somehow get Chara eliminated, and then SOMEHOW get eliminated himself
i don't think there is any universe where i manage to get myself on y-1 to not hammer myself, then decide to stick around to "solve", "accidentally" send chara to heaven (or like, anyone really), and then *still* manage to get myself spared after that. like, even if you think that was my original mastermind plan from the start, i have kiiind of blown it by constantly going "fuck you fuck me fuck this game i want out", don't you think? after throwing multiple fits how i hate this game and don't know how to solve it, you think nobody would bat an eye if i then went "achkhually now i want to stay in the game and solve it, oopsie did i just spare scum :3"?
pedit: oh my god.
Ydrasse today.
VOTE: Ydrasse
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In post 3744, Flea The Magician wrote:8 in game. 5+1 vs 2
Mislim. 5+1 vs 1
Kill. 4+2 vs 1
Elim. 3+2 vs 1.
Kill. 3+3 vs 1.
Elim 2+3 vs 1.
Kill 1+4 vs 1
Coinflip.
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