AI UPCIK PART II | Compromised

[Almost50]

Why? Especially in the case of multiball, i dont see why it'd have to be at all. it could kingmake anyone after all

All the more reason why it has to be "uninformed". Otherwise it'd be way too overpowered.

[Almost50]

I feel like everyone here could be eliminated, there are no blatant town, just ones i find less likely

You are either Scum or not trying, because I don't see myself voting Pooky, Sky or RR now (and .. ahem.. YOU, but you keep saying everyone could be scum which is "keeping all options available"; i.e. a SCUM tactic)

[Almost50]

Is this setup not randomly made? Is it supposed to be balanced?

First; YES.. it's supposed to be balanced.
Second: Define "random". ALL games are "randomized" for role distribution. I believe AI still has the basic common sense to not give a Vigilante to Scum for instance.

[Almost50]

or she's just paranoid

*flops ears*

I had this question held back for a long time now, but I need to know this: Is it the bad eye or your GOOD eye you're covering in your avi pic??

[Almost50]

Let's talk then.. who are your 3 bottom reads (top 3 suspects)?

P-edit: NVM then.

[Almost50]

I am holding my vote till I get to talk to mastina, but I am not against wagons on tw or Yuki

Why does everybody think the bear is scummy?? He's not even TRYING to solve the game, which is his TOWN meta.

[Almost50]

I THOUGHT SOLVING AT ALL WAS THE BAR FOR HIM BEING TOWN WHICH IS IT

Pooky NOT playing the game is >rand TOWN him. Pooky tryharding is >Scum him (but sometimes he feels like trying as Town). Pooky "standing in the middle of these two" is most likely Scum him.

[Almost50]

I think your bat nature got the best of you. You're blind, I get that, but you're not using your "sonar" either.

[Almost50]

Okay and did Tarou's evaluation of Ari being super in his scum meta, was that an accurate meta read?

No. That was Ari's OLD meta. Ari nowadays doesn't play as either alignment, and he did say he would be busy even before the sign ups were completed, so he couldn't have foreseen what role/alignment he would get.

[Almost50]

It's the tw contribution (or lack there off) that worries me now.

[Almost50]

honestly it's just fun to play mafia with you tweetie

you are a bright spot of sunshine in this dark world

I never thought the day would come for me to see a bear sucking up to a flying rat!

[Almost50]

first the blind bat stereotype, second the rodent comparison, ohhh what's next! (ノ﹏ヽ)

I dunno.. maybe a blood sucking vampire??

[Almost50]

I THOUGHT SOLVING AT ALL WAS THE BAR FOR HIM BEING TOWN WHICH IS IT

Pooky NOT playing the game is >rand TOWN him. Pooky tryharding is >Scum him (but sometimes he feels like trying as Town). Pooky "standing in the middle of these two" is most likely Scum him.

So will you vote them?

NO.

[Almost50]

PAGETOP:

[Almost50]

Titus did what?

[Almost50]

NDmath has been executed, he was...

Spoiler:

The Great Hunt

Welcome ! You are

The Great Hunt

Once during the game, you may anonymously put to reward a 1-shot Bulletproof vest to whoever hammers a player of your choice

You win if one person from both these 2 groups gets executed while you are still alive [REDACTED / REDACTED] and [REDACTED / REDACTED] if you succeed, you will leave the game in a victory

Night 2 ends in (expired on 2021-11-01 02:37:27)

I need a show of hands of the people who agree that NDMath had scum in their list of peeps to eliminate.

Or I can't move forward.

I did analyze this already. I think if it's MB then he had 1Town+1ScumTeamA and 1Town+1ScumTeamB. If it's single ball then he had something like T-T & T-S or T-S &b T-3 maybe (again. I do believe AI would try to produce as close to a balanced setup as possible)

[Almost50]

there's nothing in that role pm that says he has actual names tho

And he didn't. Mod gave him avatars instead.

[Almost50]

Me ago hit the hay. Don't do any rash while I'm snoring

[Almost50]

THE WORST IS SCUM! The vote on Pooky with no further discussion/contribution IS A HARD SCUM CLAIM.

VOTE: the worst

[Almost50]

I also would very much appreciate it if at least one of the masyinas signed their posts so I can tell when mastina is online

[Almost50]

@Gamma: I see you active elsewhere, but not in this game. I want you to claim your role, if you please.

[Almost50]

Final solution: Scum are in Gamma/Enchant/Yuki/the wrost/Dwlee

Q: Is this the game where we were guaranteed 60% Town majority at the start or am I thinking of another game? If it is, then we probably have FIVE "non-Town" left alive (bc 60% of 17 is 10.2, so 10 Town is NOT fulfilling the condition and we must've started with at least 11).

If I'm confused though then there could still be another non-Town in the players I didn't mention above, but I doubt it.

[Almost50]

What about love? Don't you want someone to care about you?

[Almost50]

THE WORST IS SCUM! The vote on Pooky with no further discussion/contribution IS A HARD SCUM CLAIM.

VOTE: the worst

You were all like, rah rah sheep the IC, right up until we wanted to lim Pooky.

what's up

Like this is the same slot you faked an inno on d1, you do realize this, yes?

This has to be mollie. Can't be mastina by any chance.

[Almost50]

@Dwlee: Remind me of your flavour please. What was the name of your Role?

[Almost50]

r u going to actually provide reasons why im scum or is this some kinda weird bucket list thing?

You stole her honey. Isn't that reason enough?

[Almost50]

Where did Morning Tweet go

The question is why is GAMMA avoiding this thread still.

[Almost50]

Meanwhile I do have a

mechanical soft guilty

on Gamma who has been active enough elsewhere but ignoring this thread at all costs.

I also have a 95% clear on Pooky from last night, so stop being [redacted] and vote Gamma or tw (who is confirmed Scum by play).

I do have a post that explains my role in details, but I think it best to wait for Gama to FULL CLAIM HIS ROLE NAME AND HOW IT WORKS before I fully claim myself.

ONE THING though: There used to be a time when Scum could hunt for the COP/INVESTIGATIVE by paying attention to sudden changes in reads overnight. Now neither Scum nor Town pay attention to such “minor details”. That's PATHETIC play from both sides tbh.

[Almost50]

Now let me go back to this:

Pooky is still TOWN to me. I suspect Gamma "may" be Scum, but I'm not confident there.

I'm shocked A50 can read me but nobody else apparently can

What made you think I could read you rather than think I investigated you?? Like, when was I ever that good at reading you with any degree of confidence anyway?

[Almost50]

how am i supposed to know which of your reads are bullshit and which are real

When you have me insisting Pooky (of all players) is TOWN out of the blue you should pause for a second and think why that was the case. Especially so when Pooky wasn't in my Town pool on D1.

[Almost50]

Also I can't say ive ever paid attention to people softing roles as town ever so i dont really get why you're so jaded about it

Which is why you're not "perfect". Town pays attention so they can read between the lines, but apparently that's not how Mafia is played anymore. Everybody wants a Cop to be useful ONCE at best. They should claim their 1st night result and eat a bullet the next night regardless. Brilliant!

[Almost50]

I can't comprehend why you're so upset no one caught on and prematurely outed you,

I didn't say OUT ME! I said FOLLOW ME. Like, even the IC insisted on voting my TOP TR whom I've been explicitly insisting they were Town, and mollie even questioned me for not sheeping her unto Pooky. Now THAT is what's annoying me. FOUR people have voted Pooky, including the IC who had me as their TOP TR from the get go, but obviously weren't paying much attention from that point on.

[Almost50]

@RR: Let's just agree to disagree. In fact. let's agree to stay friends outside of Mafia and never to play together again. I find your argument for the sake of argument to be most frustrating. Like, what are you trying to say or prove here? What good is it for the game?

[Almost50]

I wasn't even talking to YOU, so why did you feel the need to interfere with something so meaningless?

[Almost50]

@RR: The Ari thing was half a meme and half his ROLE NAME. I am the DEATH KNIGHT. I thought his Role NAME + how it worked was more likely Town than Scum. Plus Ari didn't feel scummy by play, but everyone insisted HIS BLOODY META was to lurk as Scum. when the fact is Ari lurks as either alignments, and he forewarned us he won't be active before the roles where even crafted, let alone distributed, so the very reason EVERYONE was pushing him for was FALSE.

Now I could still be Scum to you (or anyone else who may want to still think it), but if the reason is "I fake claimed an inno" then it's one of the most ridiculous reasons to SR me at all, because I would NOT do that as Scum. Not to save a Scum p. and CERTAINLY NOT TO SAVE SOMEONE I'M NOT ALIGNED WITH.

[Almost50]

I would, yes. But if I'm going to fake a provable role, I'm going to fake proving it rather than not proving it.

Just a big unnecessary risk otherwise

.

This is hypocritic. Not gonna say anything more.

[Almost50]

@Gamma:

BEHAVE! And I don't see the relation between this and that tbh. And as for that Booneytoonz you keep bringing up, I am sorry I ever accepted to make that hydra with you in the first place. HAPPY?

NOW BLOODY CLAIM

@Mollie: Talk to the hand. I am only talking to mastina when she does come back (IF I'm still wake)

[Almost50]

@Gamma:

BEHAVE! And I don't see the relation between this and that tbh. And as for that Booneytoonz you keep bringing up, I am sorry I ever accepted to make that hydra with you in the first place. HAPPY?

NOW BLOODY CLAIM

@Mollie: Talk to the hand. I am only talking to mastina when she does come back (IF I'm still wake)

She is asking me to push you for a claim and I am obliging.

No need to be a slurry turd milkshake.

I am not claiming before Gamma does. And I'm being rude because you're being silly. LEARN TO PLAY MAFIA, GODDAMIT!

Like, let's assume hypothetically that I wasn't a Cop-like role. Why would I still "sheep the IC" whose reads have -so far- proven to be.. erm.. "not too good"??

Furthermore, I never said I'd sheep you all game. GO ISO me. I said I was willing to sheep you ON DAY ONE because i didn't have the INFO. So, your question about me not sheeping you EVEN BEFORE I CLAIMED was still ... um.. silly.

[Almost50]

OK.. so now I claim:

I am The Death Knight. I check if a player can “cause OR prevent” death by any means. The ONLY Scum Role that I can think of that can give me a negative result is a Traitor that cannot be recruited.

However, I can think of at least TEN Town Roles that will return a false positive (thus I cannot get a guilty on anyone. Only a CLEAR). Let's count: Town Vig, Town Vengeful & Town Super Saint all can “cause death”. I skipped the PGO because I won't live to tell the result even.

Babysitter can both kill and prevent a kill. Doctor, Bodygaurd, Jailkeeper, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Bulletproof & arguably Commuter all can prevent deaths. ِAlso something like a Universal Backup with the existance of any of those roles should give me a positive result. I am sure I missed a couple more roles, but I think I made my point.

POOKY CAN NEITHER KILL NOR PREVENT A KILL. Unless he's a Traitor OR I was somehow redirected that's a CLEAR in my book.

GAMMA -on the other hand- gave me a positive result so he CAN either kill or prevent a kill.

I have

seriously

considered quitting many times this game, but I did sign up to it willingly, so I'm not giving Gypyx that hell of trying to find yet another substitute.

Anyway, mollie asked yet anoether silly question (the performative: why did you choose this target), and to this I respond: Who would you have had me check? The Miller? Or the guy who could use ANY dead role which IBVIOUSLY includes killing and protective roles? Or maybe Sky whom -if I was Scum- would have definitely been my N1 kill, maybe?

Now let ME ask one silly question of my own: HOW do you pick your targets as an investigative? Oblige me.. just out of curiosity. Thanks in advance.

[Almost50]

right now i am playing irelia top

carry me tweeeeeeetie

Don't worry, Pooks. We

ride

live together or we die together..

[Almost50]

btw I'm gonna just throw caution to the wind on this, I may end up deeply regretting this but: A50, you do know who Tarou's main is right? And you have no problem with that?

What problem do I have with Shiro?

[Almost50]

POOKY CAN NEITHER KILL NOR PREVENT A KILL. Unless he's a Traitor OR I was somehow redirected that's a CLEAR in my book.

shocking

ain't life grand?

[Almost50]

VOTE: Gamma

dude's been giving me bad vibes all game let's go

if you're town and not voting gamma i dunno what ur doing tbh

you think scum Gamma admits to having killed Meg here?

[Almost50]

btw I'm gonna just throw caution to the wind on this, I may end up deeply regretting this but: A50, you do know who Tarou's main is right? And you have no problem with that?

What problem do I have with Shiro?

Huh. I'll PM you more in post-game on this subject. But it looks like progress can be made on a certain frontier.

mate, if I had a problem with someone in the past you don't need to remind me of it. I have such a short memory I can barely remember what I had for lunch. So IF I did have a quarrel with Shiro before, I have no recollection of it AT ALL.

[Almost50]

So why are you voting him?? He did claim Vig (well, not explicitly, but "I am a killing role and I am responsible for Meg's death" is all but)

[Almost50]

I believe I'm already voting tw, am I not?

here's for emphasis:

VOTE: tw

[Almost50]

I had to double check to see it was unwnd. Yes.. it's true..

But the game had been interrupted for like .. forever.. so I only remember the slots by their current names

[Almost50]

I had to double check to see it was unwnd. Yes.. it's true..

But the game had been interrupted for like .. forever.. so I only remember the slots by their current names

interesting, because it would have been unwnd's posting that would have made want investigate them n1, yes?

Where is your d2 crumb?

What crumb?? Why would I crumb an inno rather than explicitly oppose the lim?

[Almost50]

*Sigh*
Like Pooky said, ALL of my play on D2 was declaring Pooky innocent. Here are some posts:

OK.. here's my BEST ATTEMPT to pocket you yet

Radical Rat
Enchant
Gamma Emerald
Titus
Yuki Takeya
Dwlee99
Taroumaru
Morning Tweet
NDmath
Skybird
Aristophanes
PookyTheMagicalBear
Almost50

Let me know if I need to switch you with myself to achieve that pocket I've been seeking all day long

@Skybird & @NDMath: Please slide Pooky down a couple of notches on your lists. I don't ant to risk the bear's neck in this game of chicken Thank you

Wait A50 claimed an innocent

*nods sagely*

Oh who

*nods sagely*

Oh who

Pooky!

[Almost50]

Then VOTE ME first

[Almost50]

I am sceptical of so many investigative. Especially about Death Knight, who is evil sounding enough, but scum probably would't call self that.
I am sceptical about vig claim who claimed after being accused being able to kill or protect.
I am sceptical Dwlee99 received "RR is conftown" from mod and realising it just now.

I can ALL of these!

1- GYPYX IS TROLLING US. The Town Role PMs used RED font. The flavour name I received sounds pretty much scummy. That's why I also thought Ari's name was probably Town.

2- Gamma claimed before I did. I only said I had a soft guitly on him, but didn't specify how.

3- I can confirm the mod forgot to send ME the result on Gamma until I reminded him to. I'm assuming the same happened with Dwlee.

[Almost50]

Vote Yuki?

No. I'm on the duck train, but thanks for the offer.

[Almost50]

Imagine fake claiming d1, having a cop inno and not even remembering who or why you investigated them in the first place

Imagine being wrong on EVERYTHING they said so far. P A T H E T I C

N

Taro

Town by flip

ND

Even this flipped 3P

unw

Town by investigation

RR

Town by role

S

KT/K

Town by flip

STD

Town by flip

DotW

[Almost50]

mb he investigated unwnd cuz you had a giant sr on him :3

I don't need a reason to investigate any one. How I use my role is my own prerogative. At least I made use of it (unlike some

one

two else)

[Almost50]

maybe he could have just said that

Maybe "he" doesn't want to to. Maybe "he" doesn't respect your play or care what you think or say anymore. These are all maybes.

[Almost50]

[Almost50]

mb he investigated unwnd cuz you had a giant sr on him :3

I don't need a reason to investigate any one. How I use my role is my own prerogative. At least I made use of it (unlike some

one

two else)

Well it's not my fault that I couldn't start until n3.

Are you someTWO?? Is Titus a HYDRA??

[Almost50]

Who is the scum?

TBH, I suspect the

IC

slot is, and Gypyx is -once again- trolling us.

[Almost50]

But if you didn't believe there were two cops in the game why aren't you cc'ing A50 and Dwelee? Like Dwelee's claim is really odd, considering RR is saying he is a reflexive role blocker who somehow maybe was blocked.

[Almost50]

Hey A50

are there some magickal words I use where you stop being a dick? Your toxic masculinity posturing is getting old.

We can play a game w/o insulting each other.

You can.. SHUT UP!

[Almost50]

Hey A50

are there some magickal words I use where you stop being a

dick?

Your toxic

masculinity

posturing is getting old.

We can play a game w/o insulting each other.

[Almost50]

Hey A50

are there some magickal words I use where you stop being a

dick?

Your toxic

masculinity

posturing is getting old.

We can play a game w/o insulting each other.

[Almost50]

This conversation makes me really want to hammer the worst...

If you don't, you won't be able to lim him tomorrow either (Check Tarou's Role again, which is why he was killed)

One Scum has probably earned a BP already, or is about to.

Pet theory: Titus is the Scum that received the Commuter shot. She's waiting for the other p to hammer so they can earn that BP vest. Thank you worstie, you've been "such a great help"

[Almost50]

Oh. Brain fart: On N1 Ari couldn't have used an action. So, tw used/will use one of the BP and the Commuter shots. We still have hope

[Almost50]

You started bullshiting. I don't think dead players can grant bulletproof, considering NDmath need to be ALIVE when elimming them.

@TITUS:

If you're Town, let's BOTH target this. If we both get No Result that's the Commuter. The reason I want us both to target is if Scum shoot one of us the other one lives to give the result still. Thank you

[Almost50]

Pet theory: Titus is the Scum that received the Commuter shot. She's waiting for the other p to hammer so they can earn that BP vest. Thank you worstie, you've been "such a great help"

I don't even know what this means

Disregard. Ari/tw had only ONE use of there Role, as the only available target for it on N1 was The Wicker Man

[Almost50]

On N2 though they had a choice of becoming Ascetic (Meg), Giving a Commuter shot (Kop), or Giving a BP vest (ND). On N3 they will have the unused of those plus Tarou's King shot.

[Almost50]

Suit yourself. Offer withdrawn

[Almost50]

If Dwlee get night killed tonight it was probably him shooting himself in the face

[Almost50]

Yeah, whatever. I knew

him

them for too long now, so somethings stuck from their past

[Almost50]

jfc what is wrong with you, A50?

Dwelee prefers gender neutral pronouns, it is there in their sig. Just say you are sorry and try not to do it again and move on.

Plz stop acting like this, you were fun when you were lightly trolling and playing nothing going on but the rent.

Seriously chill.

'nother cheap attack on me when I did absolutely nothing but explain why I made that mistake.

DO NOT JOIN GAMES WITH ME EVER AGAIN, and I'm not even going to say PLEASE!

Oh, what a night
Now don't youfeel like

flyin'

fryin'

Everything's right

You're picking a fight
You can't blame me for

tryin'

cryin'

Love

Gosh, look

up there

at this

The stars are all aligned

Head stuck up that behind

Now don't you think it's time

And they even think it's fine, ho, ho, ho

(Come) closer to me
I want to

feel

stop your breathing
Permanently
'Cause darling, I'm not leaving here
Till I get what I've been waiting for

Some twenty-five or more

Wish I could smack you to the floor
That's

all

how I

need

feel, oh

Kisses

Disses in the moonlight, sugar
That would make this night complete
There have got to be
Oh,

kisses

disses in the moonlight, sugar

Fly

stay away

with

from me
Ho, ho, ho

Don't let this

night

fight end right now
'Cause in your

arms

face is where I need to

be

pee
Please, oh

[Almost50]

Well, be forewarned that I will report you for stalking if you do join a game I signed up for before you did.

And You educate ME? Well, I'd better not respond to that because it may not reflect good on your future, and I don't want to feel guilty about it.

Now PISS OFF ALREADY

[Almost50]

@Dwlee: Then for YOU I humbly say

I'M SORRY!

It was always YOUR right to object, correct, direct, or blame me. YOURS. However, if some (s)Pooky Bear nudged me gently that was alright too. Some ELSE steeping in to try and "educate me" is NOT. You feel?

I -once again- apologize TO YOU and assure you it was never in anyway meant to be offensive or hurtful to you.

[Almost50]

AND

[Almost50]

PAGETOP

[Almost50]

@MT: Before you start spewing junk, explain to the crowd how you ended up "uninvestigatable".

[Almost50]

Oh, NOW you go silent, huh?

[Almost50]

You know what? I'm not feeling like doing another one of those, so I'm letting the others decide on it.

I targeted Morning Tweet and got no result, with an action failed notice

[Almost50]

@MT: I dunno why everybody gets mad at me nowadays. Did I know your role? Was I supposed top? All I know is "whoever visited Kop would get a 1-shot Commuter" AND Meg was untargetable Town. So, if I don't get a result on "someone" I'd naturally assume they either visited Kop OR they are Ascetic/investigation Immune AND certainly NOT Town because Meg was already it.

Put yourself in my place and try to figure out what YOU would have thought given the above facts, THEN see if you want to yell at me for suspecting you

[Almost50]

Day 1 starts now !

public rule

Anyone hammering a member of the kindgom will become an universal miller and be inflicted with hated status, doing so multiple times will stack the number of votes on the person,

but cannot go lower than (number of non-town alive + 1)

We have THREE Scums MAX. The "enlarged" bit says we have 3 Scums at most (Dwlee is already @ -4) This means we are NOT in multi-ball either.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Dwlee

I am a tracker.

VOTE: dwlee99

VOTE: Dwlee99

VOTE: Dwlee+

No comment!

[Almost50]

A player is @ -3 because of DOUBLE HATED and in less than 8 minutes not only does he get hammered, but hammered PLUS ONE!

[Almost50]

Dwlee is just guilty

Based on what exactly? All Yuki said was "I'm Tracker". She didn't even say whom she tracked Dwlee to. In fact, she didn't explicitly say she tracked Dwlee in the first place.

I don't believe a player of your caliber doesn't stop to ask WHY track the MILLER in the first place.

[Almost50]

Almost50 can we skip humiliation phase to where you vote me

Vote you??? Dwlee has been HAMMERED already.

P-edit: Oh, GREAT! Thank you Gypyx.