Mini 1270 - Stargate SG-1 Mafia

[Timeater]

"might" - lol

[4nxi3ty]

yeh. Tim. you've. just. became. a liability...

If pv flips town. Scum have significant ammunition to lynch you.

[Timeater]

im the best player here aside from elmo

scumteam is so obvious

[PeregrineV]

Confirm Votes: 1 no

Since I'm supposed to be working, I'll do a wagon analysis til the thread shuts.

1. PeregrineV - 7 (4nxi3ty, Retrospective, Felmix, Fennin, jerobbo, malthusis, Timeater)
3. Timeater - 2 ([Redacted], Workdawg)
9. [Redacted] - 1 (Vala Mal Doran)
11. 4nxi3ty - 1 (PeregrineV)

@Time- Did you just try a fake-fakehammer?

[Vala Mal Doran]

Sooo I get back from V/LA and there's been a hammer? Greaaat. :/

I'm going to start catching up now but I've got like 6 pages to read and idk if I'm going to make it before the mod gets here.

[Vala Mal Doran]

Ok, so I skimmed those pages pretty hardcore but maybe I'll give it a more in depth look if I have time (and a few of those pages seemed pretty useless on the whole, anyway)

A few things I'll just note really quickly cuz I don't feel like walling -

-still leaning scum on Pere, both for his own actions and the behaviour of people on and around the wagon... It seemed like there were a lot of people earlier on who claimed they were willing to vote him but not really following through. If pere flips scum I would look hard at anyone who wasn't voting anyone yet claimed they'd be for a pere lynch. I expect a lot of WIFOM in that vote analysis he claims he's going to do if he gets around to it before the mod closes the thread.

-ck's "I hammer people who town thinks should be lynched even if I think they're town" is really anti town <_<

-anxiety gets more mild townpoints from me... his reaction to Timeater hammering Pere seems genuine

- I have mild town reads on both workdog and malth. No big thing in particular, just feel like their overall posting has been pretty towny. Except for one thing... if Pere flips scum, the way Malth voted L-1 looks like a bus to me and I'll need to re-read him more closely cuz of that if Pere's scum.

[Felmix]

I would consider giving details, but wouldn't name them. Perhaps try to think of some way they can confirm themselves at a later date.

- Elmo

[Vala Mal Doran]

?

I guess I missed something...

brb lol

[Vala Mal Doran]

...Oh. Well that changes things. PereV probtown then, skimming mafia games ftl

Yeah, try to give whoever it is a way they can confirm themselves later without directly outing them, Pere. Can you full claim without exposing this other person? If you're dead anyway, you might as well.

[PeregrineV]

Yes.

1. They have to explain what is significant about the number 3.
2. They have to explain what is significant about the number 2.
3. They have to explain what is significant about the number 1.
4. They have to explain what is significant about the number 0.
5. They have to explain what 1-29-36 means.

Whatever person(s) does that will be confirmed.

[Retrospective]

Well, I'm sorry for lynching you, PereV.

I do still think your play deserved it though.

[PeregrineV]

Well, I'm sorry for lynching you, PereV.

I do still think your play deserved it though.

Yeah, we'll never know, will we? Or course, having set the bar nice and high for yourself, if you're town I expect the game will be cleaned up in no time!

[PeregrineV]

1. PeregrineV - 7 (4nxi3ty, Retrospective, Felmix, Fennin, jerobbo, malthusis, Timeater)
3. Timeater - 2 ([Redacted], Workdawg)
9. [Redacted] - 1 (Vala Mal Doran)
11. 4nxi3ty - 1 (PeregrineV)

Not Voting - 2 (Citizen Karne, Ravel)

Here's my final thing.

Debating whether I should confirm someone now, or not paint a target on there back. I'll take votes from the non-scum players.

@Time- not even a claim request? lol..nice scumtell for you.

Time hammer pretty scummy. Never seen him do it as town, FWIW, esp. with no claim.

Usually a big fan of one on, one off, one not voting, but think this one may be different.

I'd look at Ravel for the not voting.

Jerobbo I had as newb-town, but if that was the case then I'd expect a move to the final lynch to occur much closer to deadline. Since deadline is not immediate, he goes back on the suspect list.

VMD needs to be looked at- is she scumhunting before the VLA?

Got town reads on Redacted, Workdawg, Karne.

4nxi3ty- keep an eye on.

Retro- scum if the walls stop for any reason. (BTW, you can vote people you don't think are scum. If you follow your argument to its logical conclusion, you're going to be calling everyone out this game, and each will need a wall about where there vote is and why). Otherwise, prob town.

[PeregrineV]

Mmh.

This can go back if we need a deadline lynch. UNVOTE: [Redacted], VOTE: PeregrineV.

And I make the person I want lynched most out as scummy because they are the person I want lynched most? Not really sure about your point here but again I'll discuss it in MD / Post game here but for now I'm just going to say it's clear we have differing playstyles.

My point remains the same: you were deliberately misrepresenting his behaviour. That's scummy; town should not do that. That is not down to playstyle.

~ Elmo

Redacted's claim seems fine. Could be fake, as it looks like the sample role in the mod's first post but the only way to find out is to lynch him. I'm not ready to lynch someone over this. The whole case on Redacted seem forced. I read the whole thread again and don't see anything blatantly scummy on Redacted.

UNVOTE: [Redacted]

VOTE: PeregrineV

So far my reads :

malthusis : leaning scum
4nxi3ty : leaning scum
PeregrineV : leaning scum
Timeater : leaning town (but suspicious : overeager townie or smart scum, too early to tell)
Jerobbo : town

These are not definitive and I don't have reads on other players so far. But I'll support a lynch on the ones leaning scum, hence my vote.

The Pere case is Ok. However I'm wary that if I vote him it could subconsciously be an OMGUS vote because I was annoyed about him misrepresenting me earlier.

That said, number [3] on Retro's case could be a pretty big scum-tell I reckon. When you're Town you never forget who and why you've voted for someone because it's your only reason for being around, to find the scum.

number [5] and [7] are valid as well, I think most people should have picked up on these. Especially the avoidance of the main topic of discussion. Bit weird.

The rest are pretty ehhh in my view, but my general gut feel from his ISO is one of suspicion.

Now, going back to point [5] the avoidance of the Redacted wagon:

^Can you be more specific, it looks like you are implying that me and retro are tied together as scum based on how I didn't comment on one post; If that is the case why didn't you just say that from the beginning instead of being vague?

Also, can you answer my first question:Is non-play your only reason for voting me?

Specifically, you've mentioned three things about my 21 posts, most of which were topic related.
You've mentioned nothing about Retro's 25 posts, which, at least in the beginning, covered all conversations.

Are you using this as a scumtell? Cause if you're saying him ignoring Retro's posts is bad, then you ignoring the whole Redacted wagon is surely worse?

In fact, the only things you've commented on in regards to redacted are:

So we can flip this? Lynch you, and if you are town then shoot/lynch/poop on Redacted?

and then:

@Time- About Redacted, I'll have to go back and look at his posts specifically.

Which you have of course failed to do yet, which again backs up Retro's point [3] that you do not have scumhunting in the front of your mind.

Unvote, vote PeregrineV

What the fuck why are you fence sitting so much the fuck

Vote: Workdawg

Bah, it looks like the only thing everyone can agree on is the PeregrineV wagon. I guess I can go with that........

Unvote, Vote: PeregrineV

That's L-1.

From post 316 to post 327 in less than an hour? I got my dead eye on you.

So frankly, all the above seem suspicious, since Retro gave a reason, and Jerobbo at least piggybacked it somewhat.

[smargaret]

Votecount 1.11

1. PeregrineV - 7 (4nxi3ty, Retrospective, Felmix, Fennin, jerobbo, malthusis, Timeater)

2. Felmix - 0
3. Timeater - 2 ([Redacted], Workdawg)
4. Workdawg - 0
5. Ravel - 0
6. Vala Mal Doran - 0
7. Retrospective - 0
8. malthusis - 0
9. [Redacted] - 1 (Vala Mal Doran)
10. Fennin - 0
11. 4nxi3ty - 1 (PeregrineV)
12. jerobbo - 0
13. Citizen Karne - 0

Not Voting - 2 (Citizen Karne, Ravel)

PeregrineV, Bra'tac of Chulak, Mason

has been lynched. N1 starts now. The sun will rise at 6:00 pm on Friday Nov 25, so if you're going out of town and have night actions, get them to me before you leave. Any Quicktopics that may or may not exist are now open.

[smargaret]

Day has broken, and everyone wakes up - except for one person.

Felmix, Thor, Vanilla Town

was blasted overnight. You immediately set to work trying to figure out who got into the armory.

Day 2 begins. Day 2 will end at 8:00 am EST on Saturday, December 10. With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Votecount 2.1
1. Timeater
2. Workdawg
3. Ravel
4. Vala Mal Doran
5.Retrospective
6. malthusis
7. [Redacted]
8. Fennin
9. 4nxi3ty
10. jerobbo
11. Citizen Karne

Not Voting: 11 (Timeater, Workdawg, Ravel, Vala Mal Doran, Retrospective, malthusis, [Redacted], Fennin, 4nxi3ty, jerobbo, Citizen Karne)

[Workdawg]

VOTE: Timeater And I barely care if he's town or not, we're better off without him anyway.

[Retrospective]

Oh cool, I couldn't really read Felmix anyway.


Hey do you guys think we could take a vote and get the mod to force replace Time?

[Timeater]

snore

vote: redacted

[jerobbo]

im the best player here aside from elmo

scumteam is so obvious

We hit night before I could reply to this...are you actually for real??

[Fennin]

PeregrineV flipped Mason. So there may be more Masons out, surely a recruiting Mason (Teal'c?). That's good news for town. I'll have to take my time reading this thread again. Timeater's playstyle is straightforward, a little bit too much for my liking. But doesn't tell me if it's an overeager townie or scum we have to deal with :/

More on this later.

[Timeater]

its pretty fuckn obvious who the mason buddy is

[Timeater]

im the best player here aside from elmo

scumteam is so obvious

We hit night before I could reply to this...are you actually for real??

im operating on levels you cant comprehend

sorry

[4nxi3ty]

im the best player here aside from elmo

scumteam is so obvious

We hit night before I could reply to this...are you actually for real??

im operating on levels you cant comprehend

sorry

It doesn't matter what level your operating on if you can't figure out the level of the environment you are currently occupying; all your actions become irrelevant and ill-concieved because you assume that everyone here should have the same perspective as you.

vote: timeater

[Retrospective]

smargaret, people are voting Timeater because they hate him as a player and don't want to play with him. They're not voting him because of his alignment. And if you look at his play, he's only ruining the game you took time to create. For instance, he hammered before a claim yesterday on someone he continuously said he did not suspect and now people are voting out of revenge more than anything else. Can you please force replace him before he wastes not only your time but ours too?

Everyone else, if you don't want time out of this game, you should probably speak up.