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Post Post #2495 (isolation #400) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:14 pm

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:You could actually compare flavor. In most of his games, Jason uses faction specific kill flavor. Killed is mafia. Pool of blood is SK.


I thought flavor was not supposed to reveal anything specific game wise?


That rule is for normal games, not themes.
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Post Post #2498 (isolation #401) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:21 pm

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Nope. Find another quickhammer. It's quite apparent, I think, that I'm in a game wayyy over my head with many many players far better than myself. So for now I stick with my town read on dapper. I'm not going to reconsider. I will lynch dapper if he requests it. Otherwise I'm going to stick with this.


You don't get better by not enumerating reasons.

If you're right, it gives you a shot at improving communication skills.
If wrong, you'll be able to tailor your game state picture easier (as we will tell you why).

If you're scum, waiting to be coached is excellent play...for town.

Town wants you talking; it gives us info regardless of your flip.

So why are you townreading dapper?
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Post Post #2505 (isolation #402) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:38 pm

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T S O wrote:Well, to put it bluntly, yes. In this game, scum are literally attempting to lurk the game out.


That and desperately cling to any possible viable town wagon. It's pretty obvious that scum and Sk can only flail franticly at the major wagons and lurk.

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Post Post #2507 (isolation #403) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:47 pm

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote::rollseyes:

How are you two going to have room to eat christmas dinner when you're so full of yourselves already?


Ego is hot air. You know we need something physical to fill that space.

Are you going to explain this so called gambit or townread on DS?
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Post Post #2509 (isolation #404) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:52 pm

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?? Just cut to the chase. I am not reading a whole other game and guessing what you meant.
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Post Post #2512 (isolation #405) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:27 pm

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It doesn't explain anything. Gambit isn't synonymous with strategy or tool. A gambit is an action that has a clear cut method and purpose. For instance, in a finished game, I fake claimed sheriff because I knew a player was scum and town refused to lynch them. That's a gambit. Clear motivation, clear intended result, and information to be gathered.

Here, the motivation, intended result, and information are abysmal. I can't find any of it. So no, I don't know what your gambit is at all. You have used the phrase but in a meaningless way. I don't even know who you're tunneling on.

Third, vote analysis works when people pursue scumreads via scumhunting. Although my VCA is moderately effective, it has minor issues. It basically supposes optimal play from all involved. Random tunneling isn't a gambit but just an obstruction at best.

I am going to put you in the need to review file. I so like 75% sure you're scum, but given the last game I completed with do called experts, I think taking a second look is ok. (In that game town lynched a guy who said he was an investigator, but didn't understand his role pm, a doctor who rather than CCing a scum that claimed bodyguard made up he healed himself and tried to prevent his lie from being busted, and the outed architect for lol no reason and got like zero cross kills). That's not even the worst I have seen. So look, there's time to right the ship. Not if you don't try though. I will state that Dapper is scum. You might just be stubborn and new. Clamming up helps me determine neither.
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Post Post #2518 (isolation #406) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:06 pm

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Spider Gwen wrote:
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Shiro - townbeard or scum, gun to head townbeard, we both have issues w Shiro's recent posting


I'm really not getting this. Don't you kinda agree on Alch? Her being stubborn on the other end does not equal townbeard.


Maybe EE then.

@DS, Lol. You wanna fish. Not happening. Night kill us to figure out which is which. Second, it's not. It's stupid and moronic for scum. Scum should be flexible. Locking yourself into a claim and read doesn't work in 95% of scenarios for scum. My number one motivation as scum is to survive. I naturally feel a maternal instinct towards those on my team, to help and aid.

I am not answering your rolefish.
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Post Post #2519 (isolation #407) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:08 pm

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I do kinda agree on Alch, but he's hard to read. I have like zero confidence on Alch. Reviewing him or EE to me would be good.
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Post Post #2524 (isolation #408) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:45 pm

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Spider Gwen wrote:Any protective role needs to be on either Stormy or TSO. They will be the ones taking the game forward when I die.


Wut.


Totally on TSO or you. I totally planned on dying tonight.
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Post Post #2525 (isolation #409) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:46 pm

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Spider Gwen wrote:Any protective role needs to be on either Stormy or TSO. They will be the ones taking the game forward when I die.

Who should I look into on reread SG? I just keep getting mixed signals.
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Post Post #2527 (isolation #410) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:52 pm

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Spider Gwen wrote:Any protective role needs to be on either Stormy or TSO. They will be the ones taking the game forward when I die.


Wut.


Totally on TSO or you. I totally planned on dying tonight.


You meant sg, right?


Yes. Derp. Husband came home. I was thinking of you when I wrote that.
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Post Post #2528 (isolation #411) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:53 pm

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Derp. Thought SG asked.

Doc on Tso or SG.

I am going to just sigh now.
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Post Post #2530 (isolation #412) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:01 pm

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Spider Gwen wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:
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Spider Gwen wrote:Any protective role needs to be on either Stormy or TSO. They will be the ones taking the game forward when I die.


Wut.


Totally on TSO or you. I totally planned on dying tonight.


I'm expendable in the long run. You are much more important to keeping town together and keeping the cogs turning. I'll add what I can but I don't want doc protection. The town bloc as a whole is more important.


Ok. 10-4.

Who should I focus on during my reread? I never got a clear answer.
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Post Post #2534 (isolation #413) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:06 pm

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Spider Gwen wrote:@Stormy: A reread of Alch wouldn't hurt. I know I haven't gotten much from his play. You might be able to see things I can't.


Jeanne and I will discuss it then.

Ready for hammer.
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Post Post #2535 (isolation #414) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:07 pm

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Dapper I think sg and passionate storm might be town together. Tso as well. Nobody should disregard them, but right now my eyes I think are on ep aj alch

VOTE: alchemist

I think we should figure out who's scum together and kind of work it out as well. This all the town vote whoever they feel like voting isn't working obviously.


I was thinking you might be town. Then you post this.
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Post Post #2537 (isolation #415) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:25 pm

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Can you hammer EP?

I don't want this going on during Christmas.

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Post Post #2546 (isolation #416) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:35 pm

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I am still working on resorting everyone from the last flip. You couldn't have given people more time?


You had all thread day to do this.

Enjoy your buddy flipping.

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Post Post #2601 (isolation #417) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:11 pm

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@EE, Please don't lord Dapper up as the lord of good town play. He was anti-town to the nth degree. Spider Gwen his behind me and we knew it. I figured it was cop none the less. Jaquen outs this to everyone AND counterclaims the cop. There was only so much wifom that could be poured on that afterwards. This isn't about good or bad play. I wouldn't be surprised if Jaquen's wagon was all town. That type of behavior CANNOT live until lylo. He was the best townie scum could ever hope for.

Spider Gwen was hiding behind Alchemist last night and wound up dead by mafia kill. This is significant because a hider cannot be attacked directly in most circumstances. This means that mafia killed alchemist or alchemist is scum and the mafia kill was interfered with. I am more inclined to believe the latter.

The serial killer also had no kill last night. Grapes was a vig shot.

A town jail keeper or Roleblocker should take not of this and subtly crumb who they blocked or jailed.

VOTE: alchemist
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Post Post #2603 (isolation #418) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:14 pm

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
T S O wrote:You're going to get no answers off TWIE. He's playing that lurker game which makes impossible to distinguish him as either alignment. It's a dirty way to play, because when so many people do it like here, they know that town can't afford to burn policy lynches on them. If they're town, they get to do nothing, if they're scum they stay alive.

It's a pretty pathetic way to play Mafia, but everyone to their own.

You're probably right. I voted him because I was mad anyways.

VOTE: alchemist


You're readily abandoning your investigations and Sheeping the two players you think are morons? Why?

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Post Post #2609 (isolation #419) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:36 pm

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@EE, If you're going to call protecting the cop that cleared you terrible play and the guy who after the fact cried Slayer's good play, there's no hope for you this game. We are confirmed fucking town. We pushed Jaquen because he was playing pro scum and we didn't know his alignment EE.

That being said, why did you ignore 2603, EE?
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Post Post #2610 (isolation #420) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:37 pm

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Varsoon wrote:Your eyes deceive you, young one. Reach out with the Force and feel my content flow through you.


Do or do not. There is no try. Who are the scums?
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Post Post #2613 (isolation #421) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:41 pm

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@EE, Do you question us being confirmed town? If not, why ignore confirmed town?
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Post Post #2618 (isolation #422) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:49 pm

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T S O wrote:Oh, Titus - I'm thinking that VCA on Klingon's lynch points strongly towards a guaranteed scum in {inte, IAI, TWIE}. Do you agree?


Depends on Alchemist flip. Give me a minute to explain my VCA throughly to Jeanne. I am trying to teach her to be a better player so I need to document every detail.

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Post Post #2619 (isolation #423) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:50 pm

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:@EE, Do you question us being confirmed town? If not, why ignore confirmed town?


Unfortunately, the degree to which a player is towny does not determine their intelligence, nor their ability to play the game.


Answer the damn question. Do you disagree with us being confirmed town? Why are you ignoring 2603?
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Post Post #2620 (isolation #424) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:51 pm

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VCA is used to clear, not confirm scum though.
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Post Post #2622 (isolation #425) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:00 pm

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Spoiler: VCs uncolored
jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Extrapolated Eagle
(4): Garmr, I Am Innocent, itlepip, Elyse
Aneninen
(3): Passionate Storm, T S O, Alchemist21
Spider Gwen
(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger
Shiro
(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon
Klingoncelt
(2): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen
grapes
(2): Spider Gwen, Spifflop
Aunt Jemina
(1): PeregrineV
Elyse
(1): Extrapolated Eagle
Spifflop
(1): grapes
itlepip
(1): Errantparabola

Not Voting
(3): Klingoncelt, Shiro, TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.
Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(5): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Elyse, Passionate Storm, itlepip
grapes
(4): Spider Gwen, Spifflop, Errantparabola, Shiro
Spider Gwen
(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger
Shiro
(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon
Aneninen
(2): T S O, Alchemist21
Passionate Storm
(1): Klingoncelt
Aunt Jemina
(1): PeregrineV
Extrapolated Eagle
(1): Garmr
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Elyse
(1): Extrapolated Eagle
Spifflop
(1): grapes

Not Voting
(1): TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

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Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(6): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse
Extrapolated Eagle
(3): Garmr, T S O, Errantparabola
Spider Gwen
(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger
Passionate Storm
(2): Klingoncelt, Spider Gwen
Shiro
(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon
Elyse
(2): Extrapolated Eagle, PeregrineV
Varsoon
(1): Alchemist21
grapes
(1): Shiro
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Spifflop
(1): grapes

Not Voting
(1): TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

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Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(7): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Varsoon
Spider Gwen
(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger
Passionate Storm
(2): Klingoncelt, Spider Gwen
Elyse
(2): Extrapolated Eagle, PeregrineV
Extrapolated Eagle
(2): Garmr, T S O
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
Varsoon
(1): Alchemist21
grapes
(1): Shiro
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Spifflop
(1): grapes

Not Voting
(2): Errantparabola, TheWayItEnds
V/LA (1) I Am Innocent (Monday)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(7): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Varsoon
Spifflop
(3): grapes, Dapper Stranger, Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm
(2): Klingoncelt, Spider Gwen
Extrapolated Eagle
(2): Garmr, T S O
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
Varsoon
(1): Alchemist21
grapes
(1): Shiro
Spider Gwen
(1): randomidget
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Elyse
(1): PeregrineV

Not Voting
(3): inte, TheWayItEnds, Errantparabola
V/LA
(1) I Am Innocent (Monday)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count



Klingoncelt
(9): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, Varsoon, T S O
Spifflop
(5): grapes, Dapper Stranger, Extrapolated Eagle, randomidget, PeregrineV
Passionate Storm
(2): Spider Gwen, Alchemist21
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
grapes
(1): Shiro
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
itlepip
(1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting
(3): inte, TheWayItEnds, Errantparabola
V/LA
(1): I am Innocent (Monday)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.



Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(10): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, Varsoon, T S O, Extrapolated Eagle
Spifflop
(4): grapes, Dapper Stranger, randomidget, PeregrineV
Passionate Storm
(2): Spider Gwen, Alchemist21
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
grapes
(1): Shiro
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
itlepip
(1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting
(3): inte, TheWayItEnds, Errantparabola
V/LA
(1): I am Innocent (Monday)


With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:

Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(8): Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, T S O, Aunt Jemina, Spider Gwen
Alchemist21
(4): Shiro, Varsoon, Errantparabola, Extrapolated Eagle
Spifflop
(3): grapes, Dapper Stranger, PeregrineV
Passionate Storm
(1): Alchemist21
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Elyse
(1): randomidget

Not Voting
(4): inte, Klingoncelt, Aneninen, TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.


Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:

Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(10): Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, T S O, Aunt Jemina, Spider Gwen, Errantparabola, randomidget
Alchemist21
(5): Shiro, Varsoon, Extrapolated Eagle, Klingoncelt, Aneninen
Spifflop
(3): grapes, Dapper Stranger, PeregrineV
Passionate Storm
(1): Alchemist21
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent

Not Voting
(2): inte, TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(12): Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, T S O, Aunt Jemina, Spider Gwen, Errantparabola, randomidget, Dapper Stranger, Varsoon
Alchemist21
(5): Shiro, Extrapolated Eagle, Klingoncelt, Aneninen, grapes
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
Passionate Storm
(1): Alchemist21
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Spifflop
(1): PeregrineV

Not Voting
(2): inte, TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Klingoncelt was lynched as of Post #1957
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Post Post #2627 (isolation #426) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:09 pm

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TSO, in my opinion, scum are caught in a VCA just like scum are caught in mafia. Focus on identifying town and make sure you're not voting them. I get carried away in prosecuting scum but the best approach is identifying town.

The VCs on the last page are not colored because we are changing assumptions frequently. The first VCA I will do is assuming Alchemist is scum. Please show your methods on your VCA.

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Post Post #2631 (isolation #427) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:20 pm

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Varsoon wrote:Your question about grapes seems like a diversion; I prefer all grapes. I do not see what this has to do with the New Jedi Order, however.
Alchemist represents a disturbance in the force. That is my 'read'.


Where do you think other disturbances are?
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Post Post #2635 (isolation #428) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:45 pm

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TheWayItEnds wrote:I'm pretty upset about that grapes kill. I was hard town on grapes.

Tso what are you even talking about why was sg killed over you she's a hider.


Wrong question... How was SG killed over TSO?

SG cannot be directly targeted for kills. SG was a hider.
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Post Post #2638 (isolation #429) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:48 pm

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Hardbus? Why would AJ's vote be a hard bus if she's town?

I agree with the rest of that. EE being an asshole because we lynched a game thrower is no excuse. If town, he should let me have it post game about how bad that lynch sucked. He's basically saying y'all are morons, let me sheep your wagon and ignore you. That doesn't make coherent sense from any poV.
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Post Post #2642 (isolation #430) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:51 pm

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Oooh I sense big revelation coming. Need to finish VCA first. Regular too easy blah blah disclaimer.

@EE, I am not going to apologize for lynching a terrible town who was playing terribly whether by his own design or whether he's retconning to save his own ego.

You want me to reconsider someone in my town block? Make a case.

Pouting like a kid who is sad he didn't get the toy he wanted ain't gunna cut it.

Do you think I am confirmed town or not?
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Post Post #2644 (isolation #431) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:14 pm

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Passionate Storm wrote:
Spoiler: VCs uncolored
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Extrapolated Eagle
(4): Garmr, I Am Innocent, itlepip, Elyse
Aneninen
(3): Passionate Storm, T S O, Alchemist21
Spider Gwen
(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger
Shiro
(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon
Klingoncelt
(2): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen
grapes
(2): Spider Gwen, Spifflop
Aunt Jemina
(1): PeregrineV
Elyse
(1): Extrapolated Eagle
Spifflop
(1): grapes
itlepip
(1): Errantparabola

Not Voting
(3): Klingoncelt, Shiro, TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.
Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(5): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Elyse, Passionate Storm, itlepip
grapes
(4): Spider Gwen, Spifflop, Errantparabola, Shiro
Spider Gwen
(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger
Shiro
(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon
Aneninen
(2): T S O, Alchemist21
Passionate Storm
(1): Klingoncelt
Aunt Jemina
(1): PeregrineV
Extrapolated Eagle
(1): Garmr
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Elyse
(1): Extrapolated Eagle
Spifflop
(1): grapes

Not Voting
(1): TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(6): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse
Extrapolated Eagle
(3): Garmr, T S O, Errantparabola
Spider Gwen
(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger
Passionate Storm
(2): Klingoncelt, Spider Gwen
Shiro
(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon
Elyse
(2): Extrapolated Eagle, PeregrineV
Varsoon
(1): Alchemist21
grapes
(1): Shiro
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Spifflop
(1): grapes

Not Voting
(1): TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(7): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Varsoon
Spider Gwen
(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger
Passionate Storm
(2): Klingoncelt, Spider Gwen
Elyse
(2): Extrapolated Eagle, PeregrineV
Extrapolated Eagle
(2): Garmr, T S O
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
Varsoon
(1): Alchemist21
grapes
(1): Shiro
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Spifflop
(1): grapes

Not Voting
(2): Errantparabola, TheWayItEnds
V/LA (1) I Am Innocent (Monday)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(7): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Varsoon
Spifflop
(3): grapes, Dapper Stranger, Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm
(2): Klingoncelt, Spider Gwen
Extrapolated Eagle
(2): Garmr, T S O
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
Varsoon
(1): Alchemist21
grapes
(1): Shiro
Spider Gwen
(1): randomidget
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Elyse
(1): PeregrineV

Not Voting
(3): inte, TheWayItEnds, Errantparabola
V/LA
(1) I Am Innocent (Monday)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count



Klingoncelt
(9): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, Varsoon, T S O
Spifflop
(5): grapes, Dapper Stranger, Extrapolated Eagle, randomidget, PeregrineV
Passionate Storm
(2): Spider Gwen, Alchemist21
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
grapes
(1): Shiro
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
itlepip
(1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting
(3): inte, TheWayItEnds, Errantparabola
V/LA
(1): I am Innocent (Monday)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.



Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(10): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, Varsoon, T S O, Extrapolated Eagle
Spifflop
(4): grapes, Dapper Stranger, randomidget, PeregrineV
Passionate Storm
(2): Spider Gwen, Alchemist21
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
grapes
(1): Shiro
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
itlepip
(1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting
(3): inte, TheWayItEnds, Errantparabola
V/LA
(1): I am Innocent (Monday)


With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:

Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(8): Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, T S O, Aunt Jemina, Spider Gwen
Alchemist21
(4): Shiro, Varsoon, Errantparabola, Extrapolated Eagle
Spifflop
(3): grapes, Dapper Stranger, PeregrineV
Passionate Storm
(1): Alchemist21
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Elyse
(1): randomidget

Not Voting
(4): inte, Klingoncelt, Aneninen, TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.


Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:

Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(10): Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, T S O, Aunt Jemina, Spider Gwen, Errantparabola, randomidget
Alchemist21
(5): Shiro, Varsoon, Extrapolated Eagle, Klingoncelt, Aneninen
Spifflop
(3): grapes, Dapper Stranger, PeregrineV
Passionate Storm
(1): Alchemist21
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent

Not Voting
(2): inte, TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(12): Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, T S O, Aunt Jemina, Spider Gwen, Errantparabola, randomidget, Dapper Stranger, Varsoon
Alchemist21
(5): Shiro, Extrapolated Eagle, Klingoncelt, Aneninen, grapes
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
Passionate Storm
(1): Alchemist21
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Spifflop
(1): PeregrineV

Not Voting
(2): inte, TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Klingoncelt was lynched as of Post #1957
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Post Post #2645 (isolation #432) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:16 pm

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God damn it. My analysis got eaten.

Tldr errant is likely scum if Alch is. Then PerV for his sole vote countering the person who started Klingon train (if AJ is proven bussing ignore this).

Shiro TSO elyse town.

After lynching Alch look into EE Random and inte. Both inte and random are not likely scum.
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Post Post #2650 (isolation #433) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:20 pm

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@Aneninen, You should read the wiki on hider. They are untargetable by night actions. Instead, they get killed if scum murder the person they hide behind.
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Post Post #2665 (isolation #434) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:45 am

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T S O wrote:I saw it, but took it to mean that PS shouldn't waste her time re-reading Alchemist, rather than that Alchemist wouldn't be targeted.

It's possible to interpret that post in different ways, since it isn't the most clear-cut.


It was our way of discussing who would be copped. We can't pretend to be cop without results well. My "reread" would look like asking SG who to cop while I would know what she was doing.

Either Alchemist is scum or scum shot and healed him. Mafia death confirms this.
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #435) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:48 am

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Randomnamechange wrote:
T S O wrote:randomidget - here's something that I think will help you out.

Go fuck yourself.
PD didn't say it was more likely, she said that is what happened. She can't know unless she took the shot. Also it is possible Gwen didn't use her ability. And it is perfectly possible she hid behind a target who she hoped would be ignored but was vig-killed.


Vig kill is impossible. Flavor doesn't match.

The odds of SG missing their action are abysmal.

Mafia killed flavor reveals the mafia was involved in her death.
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Post Post #2667 (isolation #436) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:50 am

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I Am Innocent wrote:I should start being more active now, my apologies all. Real life issues + holiday really left no time for either of my games.

I still have a ton of D1 to read, and a little of D2, but this is where I am at.

1) an ISO of SG shows PS is town/was her N1 target. Not a fan of EE and RM posts toward PS today.

2) can't find where in that ISO where her crumb was of a N2 target, as she obv hid behind grapes or scum. Do people think it is alch, hence the quick wagon?

3) I stand by my earlier ISO of alch, still don't see the scum motivation there, and that does seem like the counterwagon to Klingons end of D1, no?

I will prob ISO EP next as i had some early game scum vibes from him.


Look at me and SG talking about rereads. I almost never reread. There's your crumb.
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Post Post #2669 (isolation #437) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:00 am

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Because Shiro suspected him since Day 1 and people kept obvscumming or "Slayer's Gambit" so she never got the lynch she wanted. I pushed for it pretty hard.
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Post Post #2670 (isolation #438) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:11 am

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There is a distinct possibility that scum saw SG crumbs as well and shot Alchemist. Alch lived because SK and thus only Gwen died.
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Post Post #2672 (isolation #439) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:15 am

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and her last post. The "see things I can't" is an allusion to my wifoming cop. She lives and I have my "cop result" as town on Alch.
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Post Post #2713 (isolation #440) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:27 pm

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@Alch, Hider is weak and thus dies automatically after targeting scum. It's in the wiki you linked.

SG's last post was the crumb.

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Post Post #2718 (isolation #441) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:39 pm

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Elyse wrote:What is even the point of saying that if he's going to flip soon? To make yourself look better?

I'm coming for you


Random and Fire. :nod:
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Post Post #2722 (isolation #442) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:46 pm

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Seriously, if Alch is town I am getting many many shots of vodka.

You game Elyse?

@Alch, SG's last post D1.
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Post Post #2726 (isolation #443) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:19 pm

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There is one other far out possibility.

Scum jailkeep Alch and shoot him framing him. But that begs the question, why would scum have a jailkeep?
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Post Post #2735 (isolation #444) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:37 pm

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Alchemist21 wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:There is one other far out possibility.

Scum jailkeep Alch and shoot him framing him. But that begs the question, why would scum have a jailkeep?


Would that have still killed the hider though?


Yes. That's the only thing I can think of where you at town and SG dies.

Even then, that's strong circumstantial evidence of you being SKor targeted for kill by SK.
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Post Post #2769 (isolation #445) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:16 am

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:VOTE: errantparabola


Why?

I am backing off a bit. Random's probably scum who knew Alch was town but there have been a series of implosions and we must reassess.
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Post Post #2775 (isolation #446) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:38 am

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What we learned from Alch's flip

1) alchemist was a last second attempt to save Klingon
2) scum have a jail keeper and both scum and likely deduced SG or myself was a hider to frame Alch


I am half tempted to vote Elyse just because Jeanne wanted it Day 1. Probably not yet though.

I need to do VCAS.
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Post Post #2776 (isolation #447) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:38 am

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@EE, there is no such role.
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Post Post #2779 (isolation #448) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:52 am

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@Elyse, You got a better solution? SG died. She was hiding behind Alch. Alch was town.

Therefore, someone healed Alch. Sure as fuck wasn't town.
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Post Post #2780 (isolation #449) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:54 am

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@EE, Readslist please.
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Post Post #2785 (isolation #450) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:05 am

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:@EE, Readslist please.


EP and the rest of the list I mentioned need a hard look at. Also maybe someone should maybe read garmrs posts just once to check and make sure it's not scum. I can't read past the stupid, that I thought he might have left behind him right now.


Garmr hasn't been stupid. :shifty:
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Post Post #2787 (isolation #451) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:30 am

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TSO town
Shiro town
Elyse probably town
Garmr town

EE will depend on who he pushes today

Random errant and inte are good votes same with PV
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Post Post #2796 (isolation #452) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:54 am

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Randomnamechange wrote:So I'm being scumread for defending town. GG.
Are people seriously going to continue sheeping Titus after she was wrong about alch and dapper?
VOTE: shiro
Already scum and first post today was pointless prodging.


*scratches head* I am voting no one and questioning my reads. So who is sheeping me, on what,and why?
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Post Post #2861 (isolation #453) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:49 pm

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Hello, this is green. Has green been thrown out?

-green
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Post Post #2916 (isolation #454) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:44 am

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PeregrineV wrote:My activity is my vote today.

Vote: Alchemist

PeregrineV wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:
Spider Gwen wrote:@Stormy: A reread of Alch wouldn't hurt. I know I haven't gotten much from his play. You might be able to see things I can't.


this post says, and i quote

"I will be hiding behind alchemist tonight"


It could have been more clear IMO, but it's a start.

Vote: Alchemist


Fakey fakey. You helped lynch Alch, I doubt you forgot.

You otherwise only voted Spifflop town counter to Klingon.

VOTE: PV

Off to work.
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Post Post #3071 (isolation #455) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:54 am

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Someone called for Titus.

PV's posting but only after conftown votes him.

MoHiS needs to read.

I don't want to lynch MoHiS or IaI yet. Those two circle jerking means one of the many guns will handle it.

SG his behind Alch. This is the only theory that supposes smart players and fits with the evidence. Both scum factions targeted Alch. Alch was jailkept. This shall not be discussed further without evidence to the contrary.

I want Random or PV noosed today.
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Post Post #3072 (isolation #456) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:55 am

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If Random is scum, lynch the fuck out of Shiro tomorrow.
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Post Post #3078 (isolation #457) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:28 am

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Did I say doc heal? No I said jailkept. Second, strongmen are things.

Now, can we wagon PV or Random unless anyone has a good reason for those slots to breathe?
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Post Post #3155 (isolation #458) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:37 pm

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VOTE: Extrapolated Eagle

Sheeping cuz conftown lols.

I will lead when my confidence returns.
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Post Post #3159 (isolation #459) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:41 pm

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Invalidate my premises, and my confidence wanes.

Yup. I still think scum piled on Spifflop and itlepipitlepip and alchemist. EE fits that bill.

PV also fits due to vote pattern.
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Post Post #3161 (isolation #460) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:44 pm

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My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
Errantparabola wrote:more "consistency" from eagle

Since when is consistency a good thing? Thats what I am getting from this post.

Consistency usually indicates tunneling. I can consistently say Errant is scum! It really doesn't mean much.


Consistency and transparency usually means town.
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Post Post #3178 (isolation #461) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:14 am

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Elyse wrote:TSO's 3148 is pretty damning, IMO.

Can people explain townreads on Eagle? I've been going back and forth with him.

At this point, I've put PS, TSO, Aneninen, Garmr, Varsoon, and TWIE in my townpile.


Well, we both agree Aneninen is scum. Why do you think he's town?
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Post Post #3188 (isolation #462) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:01 am

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Elyse wrote:For me it goes back to his Clotilde gambit. It seems like something he wouldn't do as scum and it looked like an attempt to solve the game. Since then his posts haven't really wowed me but they aren't scummy either.


When's the last gamesolvey post they had?

I am quite alarmed at our level of agreement....
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Post Post #3273 (isolation #463) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:01 pm

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I think this is the best course of action to do at this point.

VOTE: TSO
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Post Post #3281 (isolation #464) » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:21 am

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How about the fact that you are positive that scum will win in two days?
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Post Post #3285 (isolation #465) » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:23 am

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Not expecting this from me, eh? Well, it is me and yet it is not.

p-edit: The second sentence?
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Post Post #3297 (isolation #466) » Sat Jan 09, 2016 6:07 am

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I am letting Jeanne push for a bit. My reads are stagnating and I have to check whether I am agency captured.
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Post Post #3299 (isolation #467) » Sat Jan 09, 2016 6:26 am

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Are you scum? Maybe
Will you admit being scum? No

Seriously, after all the fuss that just saying 'I am town' doesn't make someone town, you're expecting me to believe you are town just because you and your perspective say you are?
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Post Post #3305 (isolation #468) » Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:35 am

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Yes, it is me. I have been released from captivity to shake you up a bit.
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Post Post #3386 (isolation #469) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:28 am

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No vigging ZZX please. Ty. Errant or PV are better vigs.

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Post Post #3387 (isolation #470) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:32 am

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Jeanne if you could give me a reads list ty.
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Post Post #3446 (isolation #471) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:06 pm

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@All, I suck as conftown.

We have had two lynches since I was confirmed. Both hit town. I decided to let Jeanne take the wheel. Jeanne is VLA so I am back.

UNVOTE: TSO

Tempted to vote EE. His rage felt town but all my townreads want it. :/
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Post Post #3451 (isolation #472) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:14 pm

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OK, but if we get a hammer, I will be pissed off TSO.

VOTE: Extrapolated Eagle
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Post Post #3465 (isolation #473) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:46 pm

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UNVOTE: Extrapolated Eagle

The Alchemist lynch was MY fault. Scum set a trap and I fell right on in. I was so confident I jumped in ignoring my paranoia that this was a setup trap for me.

Jaquen flat out deserved his rope.

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Post Post #3620 (isolation #474) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:57 am

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Shiro wrote:TSO's MUM during TSO's childhood

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=8141608


Heeeeyyyy who said I was TSO's mum?
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Post Post #3623 (isolation #475) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:59 am

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Shiro wrote:
Vote:Eagle


Yea Scum had to be on that counterwagon day 1, and I know it not me.

I mean I keep flip flopping on this read but I think it is my weakness on AtE speaking


VOTE: EE

This day needs to end. I'm still lost, so I'm going to sheep TSO here.
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