Micro 157: 3p LyLo -over-

[JasonWazza]

I think this will be different cause you can't RVS (like in Vengeful) so lots of likelihood to fuck up....

FOS:Varsoon and Voided

Anyway.... i'm not actually sure how to start this

[JasonWazza]

Also LYLO is good but it's better with the buildup from previous days

[JasonWazza]

Afterwards players with similar records will be grouped when possible.

It might just be me but shouldn't you do the round robin as like a proper round robin and not like this?

This will just end up with the "leading" players versusing each other and the "losing" players versusing each other and not much change.

[JasonWazza]

Deadline: (expired on 2013-04-14 09:20:22)

So not only do we have to do this with no information, we have to do this fast, motherfucker.

[JasonWazza]

Deadline: (expired on 2013-04-14 09:20:22)

So not only do we have to do this with no information, we have to do this fast, motherfucker.

Yeah, it seems that way. Prove to me that you're town.

What the fuck do you honestly expect me to say to this?

Seriously this line of questioning is retarded, "are you town?"

Serious FoS: Varsoon

[JasonWazza]

Fact is asking if someone is town gets us no where (granted i can't think of a way to get somewhere decent), simple fact is my reaction would be the same regardless of alignment.

Also-also, I think it's really important that we figure out who the other town is. I think that either confirming someone town or scum will help immensely since there are only 3 players.

No shit sherlock

[JasonWazza]

Also-also, I think it's really important that we figure out who the other town is. I think that either confirming someone town or scum will help immensely since there are only 3 players.

Actually no i don't think town would have this thought on the simple basis that a confirmed scum means a confirmed townie and vice/versa

i think you just slipped and slipped bad

[JasonWazza]

Also-also, I think it's really important that we figure out who the other town is. I think that

either

confirming someone town or scum will help immensely since there are only 3 players.

Actually no i don't think town would have this thought on the simple basis that a confirmed scum means a confirmed townie and vice/versa

i think you just slipped and slipped bad

Why wouldn't town think that? I figure that town-hunting is just as important as scum hunting if there's only three people.

The bolded word reads like a slip.

[JasonWazza]

Oh right, now i get you, it read like scum sitting there forgeting that confirming someone town means confirming the scum

[JasonWazza]

Oh right, now i get you, it read like scum sitting there forgeting that confirming someone town means confirming the scum

Makes sense.
Still, I don't want the time issue to make us over-rush things. We should be really sure about who we lynch. I'd rather not risk a mislynch on something that isn't substantial,

or a fluke.

That said, I wish Voided could come in and make some comments. It hasn't been that long since his last post, but I feel like it's better to have a lot of posts and interactions to look at and garner reads from rather than just a few.

Why was the bolded even needed? >.>

And yeah interactions are good but it's hard to interact much in a way that is going to help

[JasonWazza]

Yeah but you didn't actually need the "or a fluke" part.

And i agree entirely on the theory that hammers should have reason/quickhammers are terrible.

Have done so since i was quickhammered in my first game :3

[JasonWazza]

Outside of that, I just got quickhammered in a game today and I didn't even get to make a case for myself. I was at L-3 yesterday and I came back today to find myself lynched, which really sucked because I was town.

Pretty much what happened in my first game

Anyway, I think that, regardless of what happens, we shouldn't park votes and if anyone does get a vote put on them, they should be given a chance to make their case before they get lynched. This'll keep town from lynching town.

Town shouldn't put down a vote without being solid anyway?

If your solid enough to vote you shouldn't be swayed by a case

[JasonWazza]

No shit sherlock

Hey, I'm the sarcastic one around here, Wazza.

Even so, what's with the overly biting reactions?

State the obvious get the obvious retort back?

Anyways, Varsoon's caution pings me as town, or at least makes him townier to me than Jason does. Even so, what's with all this hammer spec?

Cause you know, scum wouldn't be cautious at all

[JasonWazza]

Honestly between your lack of posts and his overall cautiousness i'm kinda tied at the moment.

If i voted right now it'd probably be Varsoon

[JasonWazza]

Honestly between your lack of posts and his overall cautiousness i'm kinda tied at the moment.

Well I'm terribly sorry I can't post while I'm at work

Is it just his cautiousness?

Lack of posts wasn't an attack in this case.

His cautiousness and his need to overexplain the hammering and what town should do has me on edge it's just not sitting right no matter which way i look at it.

That and you haven't done much that sets my scumdar off.

[JasonWazza]

I get that but this ain't a newbie game your not needing to hold hands we all know what's at stake

[JasonWazza]

Though, at this point, you still feel townier to me. Despite the cautiousness and such you're still trying to probe around for stuff, which is always good. Jason's posts read more like satiric side jabs than probing questions (and since he doesn't have work like I do at this time as far as I'm aware there's not really much of an excuse for it).

So how do side jabs not get reactions?

I've gotten a fair few reactions haven't i?

[JasonWazza]

Well that you can't think for yourself right at the moment

[JasonWazza]

I'm close that you can't think for yourself?

That doesn't sound any better.

Either way you should be reading the reactions yourself, especially (assuming your town) since there is a 1/2 chance i am scum.

[JasonWazza]

And yes, I'm aware. You're still avoiding my request.

(off-topic: WTF is up with everyone copying UberNinja's background?)

There is no use to me as town to tell you how to think, because you sheeping me doesn't help me.

(http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=27121)

[JasonWazza]

How did our conversation turn into a school?

Still the reason not to give out reads is simple.

a) disadvantage scum, because if they don't know they view you as scummy then they could likely vote the other guy and you vote them when the votes get crossed.
b) town shouldn't be sheeping or really even looking at other people's reason's cause 1/2 chance they come from scum.

[JasonWazza]

Sorry my bad just doing mod stuff then coming here i promise

[JasonWazza]

I'm gonna give in on the reads now, reaction testing is always fun

Varsoon: Cautious as fuck, so cautious that it bothers me like he has something to be cautious about, town should be more willing to do stupid things and just get the game moving from them stupid things, I'm still a bit iffy with him, but i have a slight town lean on him.

Voided: Got into a real twist over me not giving out my reads, like they matter so damn much, this makes me feel scum here, cause even though they matter they don't matter to the point that you need them in here (especially when my posts kinda give my reads anyway), my thought here is scum because scum NEEDS to know the reads so they know who is gonna be better to gamble on for trying to lynch.

I'm pretty confident voided is scum, but i think i will let response come to this before i do anything else.

[JasonWazza]

Were you deliberately trying to copy my iffy line?

[JasonWazza]

wagon-hungry scum.

Yeah cause 2 days till deadline and i'm not gonna want to start pushing for a 1v1 soon?

[JasonWazza]

We need to lock shit in soon and i am pretty sure i will be locking heads with voided.

I've also got some extra reads based off of it and how you've played, but I'll save them for now. I want to see how Voided responds to what's right here, and, rather than give possible scum more material to work with, I'll stick with what I've written so far.

Watch out you may get told off for holding back reads

[JasonWazza]

i'm meh, hold reads if you want i won't go make a big deal about it

[JasonWazza]

Got into a real twist over me not giving out my reads, like they matter so damn much, this makes me feel scum here, cause even though they matter they don't matter to the point that you need them in here (especially when my posts kinda give my reads anyway), my thought here is scum because scum NEEDS to know the reads so they know who is gonna be better to gamble on for trying to lynch.

I won't deny this assumption could be true from your PoV, however, isn't it also true that having clear-cut reads that people can see is better than reads that can be implied from your postings?

If you're town and don't set your reads out for us to see it leaves the rest of the town (or the other townie, in this game) potentially confused by where you really stand (and IMO that confusion is not worth the potential of doing it to scum as well) and depending on how good or bad you set your implications they can get the wrong message, either through misinterpretation or through finding a link that you may not have intended to make, or a couple other things.

If you're scum then yeah, it serves to keep town confused as to what exactly you think, and I suppose that depending on who we're talking about you could get away with it, but even as scum it doesn't seem like a good risk to me.

Overall, it just doesn't seem like a very pro-town motive to do what you're saying, and more pro-town to do what I suggested.

Also, having something tangible out there behind your suspicions that people can see (and/or respond to, if necessary) helps, too.

So because i did something that you don't find, HELPFUL, and just implying my reads KINDA OBVIOUSLY you had to continue bitch fitting it out that i wasn't posting reads?

I'm gonna give in on the reads now, reaction testing is always fun

implying you're doing more reactiontests?

REACTIONCEPTION!*coughcough*

Implying that the holding back my reads WAS a reaction test, you know the thing that you got so annoyed at and fought hard.

You kinda made the meat of your post already, so I have no qualms coming out with what I was holding back earlier.

First things first.
I mentioned holding something back to see how safely you'd post. If you were scum, me saying that I had sensitive information/reads/insight would be something you'd definitely play to, in some way.
From this, I'm reading you as town. Why?
You made the most town play by bringing up that I might be scum waiting for a cross-vote. Perceptive town would be able to notice this, and speak to the possibility of it. By setting up a post with "I won't say anything specific but I've got something important to say once the other play comes in", I'm basically asking for this sort of analysis to be made, somehow. Scum might also point this out, but they'd put it against me. Jason immediately spoke to it in two posts, but what unsettled me is that it seemed like he was setting up for you to say something bigger about it when he said I might be called out. It was like a nudge to see how you'd react, and I don't know if that was either a slip on his part or an intentional test of sorts. Anyway, I made sure to leave just enough in my posts for scum to make a groundless case against me, hoping that you'd be scum and I'd catch you in my trap, but you responded in a very town way (calling attention to it without antagonism). I hope this makes sense, haha, it's a bit convoluted on the screen.

Anyway, there was actually info that I was holding onto, and even hinted at earlier, and it's that I was reading Jason as scummier than you, but that the ultimate swing depended on your vote to prove if you were lurking, buying time, etc. You could have easily made your post at the last minute and forced town into a game of wits with only a few hours on the clock, but you didn't. You did the most town thing possible by posting as early as you did. Furthermore, your reactions were solidly town to me. You pointed out a line that felt wrong to me since I read it--the one Jason made in post 68. While Jason seemed like impatient town to me for a long time, him specifically calling you out as the person he'd lock heads with while building up antagonism towards you (the player not present to defend himself at the time) all seemed like scum manipulating town towards a mislynch. Your point about his suspicions not being tangible is another big one that I wanted to make if you didn't, especially in the case of posts 68, 14, 35, 13. Most of his really strong reactions aren't built off of substantial evidence, and while they may be reaction testing, he also often backed off on earlier accusations made against me (at least) without pushing the testing far enough.

The real thing that threw me off is that he has us both on the ground that either of us could be scum, but with a strong lean towards you. To me, it felt like a scum play to position me against you since I'd been in direct conversation with him in this game so long. However, by still having a cautious, maybe-scum read on me, he could backpedal if you made a strong case against me in your post. You didn't, and I'm interested to see who he says is scum now that I've posted all of this.

Regardless, I'm heavily leaning towards him being scum, but not ruling out that you could be, either. I have much more substantial and evidenced reads on Jason, though, and I'd put a vote on him in good faith. Regardless, if anyone puts a vote down before Jason responds to all this, they're going to have a lot of explaining to do.

VOTE: Varsoon

I'm sadly nearly sure on this cause, you know this post fucking screams scum.

Also can you butter everyone's ass up more?

SERIOUSLY?

Voided go back and read the whole game, this guy has been kissing ass this whole game and he just majorly kissed up to you, he just doesn't have the balls to vote first.

[JasonWazza]

Eh?

The fuck i thought i was prodded for something else, what am i supposed to be doing now?

[JasonWazza]

That's a pretty harsh reaction,

but it does do a good job of showing how town you are.

Sorry, just trying to get the ball rolling. We don't have time to sit around and do nothing.

Ass Kissing

Still, I don't want the time issue to make us over-rush things. We should be really sure about who we lynch. I'd rather not risk a mislynch on something that isn't substantial, or a fluke.

Self survival

Because I feel like every lynch should have a purpose behind it--it shouldn't just be people lynching based on minor speculation or quick-hammering a scum-suspect. Even if scum flips, if it was just a fluke, sure, town wins, but it's not definitive, just luck. It'd be the equivalent of rolling a six-sided die and hoping for a five or a six right now. I feel the purpose of the game is to deduce who is scum, rather than take stabs in the dark.

Big speech meant to convince me not to vote him on a limb, so more survivalistic shit.

Anyway, I think that, regardless of what happens, we shouldn't park votes and if anyone does get a vote put on them, they should be given a chance to make their case before they get lynched. This'll keep town from lynching town.

Scum perspective and trying to give himself more wiggle room

Jason, I feel like your responses are really genuine, but I don't know if I should read your day-1 opinion of me as trying to start a wagon or not. For now, you're leaning town to me.

Voided, I don't know how to feel about you yet. I'm not going to say you're sitting back and letting us two go back and forth, but that's really what it feels like and I'd like to get a better read than that sort of speculation.

Nice little way to give him backflip room

You kinda made the meat of your post already, so I have no qualms coming out with what I was holding back earlier.

First things first.
I mentioned holding something back to see how safely you'd post. If you were scum, me saying that I had sensitive information/reads/insight would be something you'd definitely play to, in some way.
From this, I'm reading you as town. Why?
You made the most town play by bringing up that I might be scum waiting for a cross-vote. Perceptive town would be able to notice this, and speak to the possibility of it. By setting up a post with "I won't say anything specific but I've got something important to say once the other play comes in", I'm basically asking for this sort of analysis to be made, somehow. Scum might also point this out, but they'd put it against me. Jason immediately spoke to it in two posts, but what unsettled me is that it seemed like he was setting up for you to say something bigger about it when he said I might be called out. It was like a nudge to see how you'd react, and I don't know if that was either a slip on his part or an intentional test of sorts. Anyway, I made sure to leave just enough in my posts for scum to make a groundless case against me, hoping that you'd be scum and I'd catch you in my trap, but you responded in a very town way (calling attention to it without antagonism). I hope this makes sense, haha, it's a bit convoluted on the screen.

This is total crap, I mean come on, if you were scum you wouldn't approach it any other way cause, either he is bluffing or his mind is already made up.

Anyway, there was actually info that I was holding onto, and even hinted at earlier, and it's that I was reading Jason as scummier than you, but that the ultimate swing depended on your vote to prove if you were lurking, buying time, etc. You could have easily made your post at the last minute and forced town into a game of wits with only a few hours on the clock, but you didn't. You did the most town thing possible by posting as early as you did. Furthermore, your reactions were solidly town to me. You pointed out a line that felt wrong to me since I read it--the one Jason made in post 68. While Jason seemed like impatient town to me for a long time, him specifically calling you out as the person he'd lock heads with while building up antagonism towards you (the player not present to defend himself at the time) all seemed like scum manipulating town towards a mislynch. Your point about his suspicions not being tangible is another big one that I wanted to make if you didn't, especially in the case of posts 68, 14, 35, 13. Most of his really strong reactions aren't built off of substantial evidence, and while they may be reaction testing, he also often backed off on earlier accusations made against me (at least) without pushing the testing far enough.

Total BS, Yes i had been antagonizing Voided, it's called getting reactions, but then saying that line was part of some master plan to make you vote him is a massive load of BS, your actting like that would make you vote before Voided talked when you were the one specifically saying town should give time, why would he vote immediately? cause he is the scum butt

Anyway ball's in your court Voided

[JasonWazza]

Also i should be here for the next 2-4 hours as well

Maybe, if i don't decide to go out...

[JasonWazza]

Didn't I just say not to drop a vote on anyone?

Even this reads survivalistic as all fuck

[JasonWazza]

Only scum need to defend themselves mate, but again this is just more survivalistic bullshit.

[JasonWazza]

Voided you realize he is confirmed scum to me and therefore i am biased

[JasonWazza]

Kinda hard to unbias myself, but i'll give it a whirl in a few minutes

[JasonWazza]

Scum perspective and trying to give himself more wiggle room

Where is the scum perspective?

Anyway, I think that, regardless of what happens, we shouldn't park votes and if anyone does get a vote put on them, they should be given a chance to make their case before they get lynched. This'll keep town from lynching town.

That was Varsoon, it reads as scummy cause he doesn't want anyone voting him on a limb cause (apart from being right) he then can't get the vote off himself.

Anyway that is about the only one i could unbias myself for.

[JasonWazza]

Cause you know, me screaming he is scum will get boring after about the second quote

[JasonWazza]

Question, why are you giving intent?

[JasonWazza]

I see, i may have thought you were getting off at that point and yeah

[JasonWazza]

Town just lost.

[JasonWazza]

What was i supposed to say?

I figured it was one of them "if you speak you'll be scum cause you spoke" sort of pre-hammers

[JasonWazza]

Also i was doing mod like stuff

[JasonWazza]

Also why did you hammer me when there wasn't even a case by Varsoon on me but a massive ass case (that though biased existed) by me on Varsoon?

[JasonWazza]

Also it's not like you asked me anything

[JasonWazza]

Well fuck you too jiffy, i was town as fuck

[JasonWazza]

Also why would i change up from my real chance and flip onto Varsoon as scum?

[JasonWazza]

JasonWazza was the most proactive player but it seems his aggressiveness came back to bite him. I don't think his arguments were the best; some were good, some were bad, but most were just okay.

My aggressiveness tends to bite me a lot, cause you know, people always assume that means scum when it's really a bad indicator.

Also which of my arguments were bad?

[JasonWazza]

Were they the ones where i had confirmation bias? cause that is totally understandable.

ALSO I WAS SO RIGHT ABOUT THE SLIP AND THAT IS TOTALLY WHY HE CALLED IT A FLUKE BLOODY BASTARD.

[JasonWazza]

@Jason

nah definitely not a slip, just awkward phrasing, which happens to town too.

your bias was fine since at that point voided not hammering does confirm him as town.

just quoting a post and calling it asskissing or survivalistic doesn't delve much into why you think it is that way. From another's perspective it can look like scum just throwing shit to the wall to see what sticks.

I called it what it was, i pointed out which bit it was, if you don't understand what i'm pointing out then your not gonna get it if i explain.

It's also not throwing shit to see what sticks if i actually point out which bit is what, if you can't comprehend how something is Survivalistic then it's not gonna help me to do a massive theory discussion as to why it is.

[JasonWazza]

Well fuck you too jiffy, i was town as fuck

Also why would i change up from my real chance and flip onto Varsoon as scum?

Dunno, stopped reading after page 1.

So i'm scum up till the end of page 1, got it.

And yeah i kinda felt scummy i just didn't know what the fuck to do.

[JasonWazza]

Lol yeah but we were game 1 so it's kinda hard to just start from nothing

[JasonWazza]

Called it based on mist's first post :3

[JasonWazza]

Also Maestro pretends to know, he decided based on a dice, i decided based on scumhunting.

Mist your first post was never going to come from town.

[JasonWazza]

Lylo 1.2 quicktopic

[JasonWazza]

Or you could leave this open for discussion till tomorrow

[JasonWazza]

That all went so quick i wasn't even awake for any of it.

[JasonWazza]

DV and Jiffy, that'll be interesting, hey DV town tell early again so i can lynch jiffy

[JasonWazza]

VOTE: Voided

Totally scummy not to join that shit

[JasonWazza]

Before i played with Jiffy i heard that he was good, then i played with him and was like what this guy is meant to be good?

So don't trust what you hear about people being good to play with.

[JasonWazza]

Oh no i wasn't meaning you, i just meant jiffy, and he knows what i think already.

You i think are a good player, i was more meaning that the definition of "good" player varies.

[JasonWazza]

wow DV why didn't you town tell this time like you did last time?

It felt all natural and non forced :/

And Majiffy paying no attention to who is in the game is null.

[JasonWazza]

Also, current theory is that he's too scared to comment on my post because he knows I'm town, so thinks that I'm just being super town.

Have you ever played or even

read

a game of mine?

I second this question

[JasonWazza]

Course, hence my trying to read DV and not bothering to read you, cause your like some fucking blob that never reads/remembers his PM's

[JasonWazza]

lololol

[JasonWazza]

This is normal Jiffyness where he has no clue about anything in the game, so why were you so adamant to paint that as a scum tell?

Cause so many people do that sort of shit as town

[JasonWazza]

Yes he ALWAYS makes a show of it, his ego is overflowing

[JasonWazza]

Well if you were generally more readable it'd be easier.

Who do you think is more scummy right now jiffy?

[JasonWazza]

Yeah i'm getting the same vibe but i have nothing but nullness on you and it makes me wary cause i'd prefer to have one town and one scum read :/

[JasonWazza]

VOTE: DeasVail

[JasonWazza]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[JasonWazza]

I am being extremely serious when i say i got back when i posted.

P-Edit: I'm town

[JasonWazza]

I can't believe my baiting for that vote actually worked

[JasonWazza]

Irony how?

[JasonWazza]

lolololol

[JasonWazza]

Woot :3

[JasonWazza]

I'm not scum, but you could easily be scum Syryana

[JasonWazza]

Well i can't know if someone who hasn't posted is scum can i?

In fact it's making me think your scum more because you don't want to even have me and fuzzy consider you being scum.

[JasonWazza]

Sorry guys i went and did a little thing called sleep, you both honestly sound stupid with these questions.

Fuzzy, yes they are WIFOM but they serve a purpose, the answer's themselves can seem more town or scum, so why not just bite the bullet and help get other people reads?

Syryana he clearly didn't want to answer the questions, making your questions fluff (at best) so why keep bothering to ask the questions?

[JasonWazza]

And what do you think his reactions have seemed like?

[JasonWazza]

Meh you seemed shit tons more scummy anyway

VOTE: Syryana

[JasonWazza]

Answering WIFOM questions isn't necessarily an anti-town thing.

It CAN be anti-town, but not always especially in a setup like this.

[JasonWazza]

Answering WIFOM questions isn't necessarily an anti-town thing.

It CAN be anti-town, but not always especially in a setup like this.

Just because the above is true doesn't make answering your questions any more worthwhile.

Your question was whether Fuzzy was scum, i could not answer that in the first post as he had not posted, Second one was an honest answer to your question, whether you like the answer or not is a different story.

[JasonWazza]

Why does Majiffy not posting mean anything?

Also hi guys

[JasonWazza]

P.S. methinks Jason's lurking the thread

I'm not lurking the thread i posted when i came in, why do you think i would lurk when posting is so much easier?

[JasonWazza]

This was open back then?

Fuck i only saw the message when i posted.

[JasonWazza]

So this got buried under a bunch of other topics.

Maestro, do you think mist not knowing the players in the game is indicative of alignment?

Mist, got anything to say not concerning the player list?

[JasonWazza]

Jason, got anything to say not concerning who's Scum?

FTFW

Why would you want me not focusing on who is scum?

[JasonWazza]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

You look more scummy then mist for referencing your paranoia, in this game i'd say it's prob a scum tell to say that.

And Mist screwing up who is in the game isn't much of a scum tell, but i wanted to see what you'd say.

However i still want more from Mist.

[JasonWazza]

So this got buried under a bunch of other topics.

sure, sure, bro

Maestro, do you think mist not knowing the players in the game is indicative of alignment?

meh, nope

her trying to paint somebody who hadn't posted yet as being suspicious for that reason is meh too -

could just be paranoia

Jason, got anything to say not concerning who's Scum?

FTFW

[JasonWazza]

Oh, dear god my reading is terrible today.

So your calling her town for her thinking that someone who hasn't posted was scum?

[JasonWazza]

So do you actually have reads?

[JasonWazza]

oh yes, just not from a silly Mist-type entry that looks 2 parts derp and 1 part facepalm

I'm gonna back and look to see if you're more likely to spampost as Scum or if Mist is more likely to lurk as Scum

How is my posting spam posting?

I'm trying to get activity for something that i can be more certain of vote wise.

[JasonWazza]

I'm not wearing briches.

[JasonWazza]

I laughed way harder then i should have at that

[JasonWazza]

Wow that reads so scummy.

[JasonWazza]

VOTE: Mist7676

I feel like this almost has to be right, shes' not looking at motivation behind posts and just looking at playstyle, she's not trying to scumhunt via questions, and i swear she is just trying to skim along in the game.

[JasonWazza]

No i voted you because you AREN'T SCUMHUNTING

That's generally a tell that someone is scum, and i was right

[JasonWazza]

each of you give me 1 good reason why I'm Town, especially taking into consideration everything about my previous play in these LyLo games
then each of you give 2 good reasons why the other isn't Town, especially taking into consideration everything about the other's previous play in these LyLo games

I wasn't using meta, i think meta is crap plain and simple.

I think Mist looks more likely to be scum (and is now confirmed in my book) and i thought you were more likely to be town, just the read of your posts and the non-jumpyness to my questioning makes me think you are town.

Mist's posting just seems scummy, there is no town motivation in them and her posts read as scum.

And i trusted my gut enough to put that vote down.

[JasonWazza]

my town read on you was leaning scum.

Can you explain the sense to this?

[JasonWazza]

Just waiting on maestro now I guess, I hope he gets back before deadline

Phone post.

[JasonWazza]

Waiting on us for what?

[JasonWazza]

Nope i'm not scum Maestro

[JasonWazza]

Btw you might want to fix up that vote.

[JasonWazza]

this would make it 1/2 town wins.

[JasonWazza]

Maestro please do not no lynch then none of us win points

[JasonWazza]

WTF IS WITH STUPID PEOPLE NO LYNCHING?

[JasonWazza]

The problem is the rule doesn't make real sense, logically the Mafia is never gonna be the reason for a no lynch, and it's more then likely going to be town fucking around.

So why penalize the scum for the town fucking around for too long?

[JasonWazza]

BUT IT'S NOT LIKE I LURKED OR ANYTHING

But yeah i agree with the whole bolding rule.

[JasonWazza]

to be fair, i was just lucky to roll Scum 3 times, i have a better time playing as scum cause it feels more natural (which i think is odd but meh)