The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[ActionDan]

Never been rvs voted by shadoweh before kinky.

VOTE: espionage

[ActionDan]

VOTE: nat nvm

[ActionDan]

What was so bad about it

[ActionDan]

btw I treat any and all early VT claims as wifom. curious as to why Nat has Shadoweh as town

[ActionDan]

wtf.

[ActionDan]

are you doing what based on a role stipulation or just trying to be cute.

[ActionDan]

props to you I suppose if you bot hare just on the same wavelength. if you're not neighbors I'd say that highly suggests town actually

[ActionDan]

pdodge?

[ActionDan]

ftr I agree with everything shadoweh has said so far

[ActionDan]

ActionDan: nat wagon? pleeeease?

that's where im voting

[ActionDan]

^ by that logic Sirdanilot is town. But that was known by me already.

And I have bad feelings about nat yes. not super 110% omg he's scum ones though.

pedit: probably because your vote is on shadoweh and she's probably town and you are probably about to go through the 5 stages.

[ActionDan]

oh my bad. that's about 1000% better vote than what is was. so gj. your pain should only be mild then

[ActionDan]

I believe that's called confirmation bias

[ActionDan]

Thought so

[ActionDan]

Code: Select all

I was thinking Action Dan not Aegor

Damn straight I don't always obvtown it up. But I am this game

[ActionDan]

Whooa... Thats cool....

I agree SirDan is being really strange, but probably not scum though....

...El...lip....sis.... ...

[ActionDan]

Tbh that was the towniest post from JS so far.

[ActionDan]

I like Eol. Tierce is not yet town

[ActionDan]

You failed flavor 101

[ActionDan]

Is there a reason you are still voting shadoweh peregrine?

[ActionDan]

Its okay, I've been criminally misgendered this game too.

Sup girllll

[ActionDan]

Yarr. Time for a MafiaSSKlynch.

Ok.

VOTE: mafiassk

[ActionDan]

shos, I'll be sure to try and enjoy mafia less in the future. Some of you are trying very hard to help that happen.
MyDan, you of all people who gets wagoned constantly for lurking should know better then to hop onto a lurker wagon for no reason. What was that suposed to accomplish?

I'm getting really annoyed with Espionage's refusal to do that reading that he's promised about five times now. Is it that hard to fake reads besides the lurker for getting modkilled too slow? JUST POST. You are doing everyone a disservice by making it impossible to read you. (which is probably the point.)

I Dunn o ran out of scum reads. Who should I vote?

[ActionDan]

VOTE: esp

Done

[ActionDan]

Hi?

[ActionDan]

My suggestion is body guarding shadow or chamber

[ActionDan]

Not Voting js. Cesar was leaning town. Tip.... m2aybe?


I'd feel better about voting ces if nat was not voting it.

VOTE: tip

For now

[ActionDan]

Let's wait for more votes to fall. Aka js wagon death

[ActionDan]

when I say js wagon death, I mean waiting until people on that wagon unvote and vote someone else.

[ActionDan]

##Vote Aegor

put your monies where your mouths are

[ActionDan]

any vig in the setup is enough to disprove that role. . therefore. I say.....

a vig should cc now or else we should NL

[ActionDan]

any vig in the setup is enough to disprove that role. . therefore. I say.....

a vig should cc now or else we should NL

So you want to out a THIRD potential PR today?

VOTE: ActionDan

nvm. continue lynching

[ActionDan]

The above opinion is dumb

[ActionDan]

VOTE: tierce[quote][/quote]

[ActionDan]

This case on Aegor is pretty good.

Chamber, Your vote is still on Tierce. Move it for fuck sake..

I had words for Shadoweh and can't recall them. It'll come to me.

ehhh.

Tierce should still be lynched first.

I'll buy whatever you're selling.

For now.

Vote: Tierce

Both of these are probably town

[ActionDan]

CES was the person Chamber was defending yesterday. I don't see scum CES killing him.

[ActionDan]

5 days. Gosh. Maybe I'll find all the scum if I have too.

[ActionDan]

Dan, what the hell are you doing? I keep seeing your name pop up elsewhere, I expect more then a gosh for ssticking up for you here, you're making me look bad for ignoring you

Well I'm still town. Ty for your support you're in the right.

I still think you're town. That's something.

I still think Sirdan is town.

I think CES is town.

...

And that's about it.

I do not town-read Tierce. most of the time I do. not this game.

[ActionDan]

oh I guess Pere and Elscouta did town posts. not super solid ones but decent enough. JS should have protected chamber. Otherwise he's also decently town.

[ActionDan]

Qhat do oyou think of my argument against Desp?

haven't read it yet (or anything D2 really). will get back to you

[ActionDan]

ActionDan, how closely have you been reading Tierce? I feel like I should have a stronger read on her.

not very closely at all.

[ActionDan]

Just vote for Desperado, Majiffy.

ActionDan, how closely have you been reading Tierce? I feel like I should have a stronger read on her.

Too little, too late.

It's okay; I was mostly just trying to get an answer out of Action "CES wouldn't kill chamber" Dan. I only half feel like I should.

Satisfied?

[ActionDan]

Ok.

[ActionDan]

Peregrine is actually town though.

[ActionDan]

it's a feeling.

[ActionDan]

and I can read Peregrine decently

[ActionDan]

I wouldn't be surprised if Spyrex was scum here BTW

[ActionDan]

I'll be voting Despardo if it comes to it.

forewarning about any counter wagons that may or may not crop up

[ActionDan]

We should all speed lynch tierce

[ActionDan]

this just looks ugly.

Mafia SSK has you picked your sides yet?

[ActionDan]

I get the feeling Mafia SSK really should have died D1 now.

[ActionDan]

I shall resist

[ActionDan]

I actually think it'd be shos.

[ActionDan]

or you. that's an option

[ActionDan]

nope!

strange isn't it?

[ActionDan]

I haven't read shos. You are town

[ActionDan]

I'm in.

VOTE: spyrex

[ActionDan]

Action-I-Hop-Onto-Some-Wagons-Dan

ftfy

[ActionDan]

I don't hop on wagons that I have town reads on

[ActionDan]

a 5-man wagon on sirdan. wow.

I'll actually rather lynch Peregrine than that

[ActionDan]

If you prefer to trust someone with a join date of 2011

over someoen who goes way further back and knows the old spyrex

just because it floats your boat better then you're probably scum too (you are still on my scum list).

Look guy. You joined in 2011. Spyrex and I go way back, and Spyrex sure as hell did not play like this as town.

I played with him as town twice,

he is a very zealous townie, he may not always get his reads right but he sure as hell gets people lynched, he tries all sorts of tactics that are good for the town etc.

is this real life

hello. scum post detected

Guess I should have joined your wagon when it was viable earlier.

[ActionDan]

he's town because he's town

[ActionDan]

Peregrine. which are you gonna vote. Spyrex or Sirdan?

[ActionDan]

VOTE: ABR

Voting with tierce feels ew

[ActionDan]

ABR is at a point where he doesn't even have to pretend to invest anything into this game and is getting protected by a great meta shield.

The meta shield is fake.

I'm not wagoning Espeonage at this stage, SpyreX. Get me a scumflip and then we can talk, but if we're starting on a purge with fire mode, first I'd rather get sirdanilot out, and I don't think he's scum either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Replace those two slots with Nuwen and LLD and we can set this playerlist alight until nothing is left but glory for Gwarestrin.

I am still reading and keeping up, but I am not in a position to do the heavy lifting. Its almost like I'd need...a...team to get something useful done here.

I'm doing the heavy lifting. Just vote with me.

Feels like a scum post

[ActionDan]

"I want to purge active townie... because?"

[ActionDan]

I think your trust in tierce is misplaced. Also watch the nk tonight. Chamber was not targeted because scum thought he was a pr.

[ActionDan]

VOTE: ABR

Is this a CC or not?

[ActionDan]

CES' game is horribad this game.

nobody is going to come up for a CES lynch; we're not lynching ABR because of the claim. Sirdan seems like the only viable lynch..

I've played with Tierce more than once, I know her scum game and town game.

you could easily be scum covering for her here.

I don't think this is tierce's 'town game'.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Tierce

[ActionDan]

well no point to lynch JS.

He has to Body guard ABR and we get a cop result

[ActionDan]

VOTE COUNT 2:11

Espeonage

- 1 - SpyreX

Albert B. Rampage

- 4 -

Tierce

,

Shadoweh, sirdanilot

, TheIrishPope

sirdanilot

- 5 -

Desperado

, Espeonage, MafiaSSK,

Elscouta

, shos

PeregrineV

- 2 - Majiffy,

Cogito Ergo Sum

Shadoweh

- 1 -

PeregrineV

Tierce

- 2 -

Albert B. Rampage

,

ActionDan

Not voting (1)

: JacobSavage

With 16 players alive it takes

9

votes to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-02-05 00:00:01)

votecount noted.

[ActionDan]

I don't think I'll convince Shadoweh on Tierce today but that sirdanilot wagon sure is town

[ActionDan]

VOTE COUNT 1:18

Shadoweh

- 1 -

PeregrineV

Espeonage

- 2 - SpyreX,

ActionDan

JacobSavage

- 7 -

Tierce

,

Desperado

,

sirdanilot

, shos,

Albert B. Rampage

, MafiaSSK,

Aegor

[/color]

TheIrishPope

- 5 - Natirasha,

Shadoweh

, Espeonage,

Cogito Ergo Sum

,

Elscouta

Tierce

- 2 -

chamber

, TheIrishPope

sirdanilot

- 1 - JacobSavage

Not voting (0)

With 18 players alive it takes

10

votes to lynch.
Deadline is in

(expired on 2014-01-23 01:00:00)

.

vote count noted. Inclined to believe JS is town from this alone

[ActionDan]

^^^ see, this is why we need to lynch Sirdan. I bet your ass scum have a roleblocker; so that they'll roleblock the Bg and kill ABR; and then BG claims to have protected ABR, so that he "lied" so town lynches him, win-win for scum - they get 4 kills in the price of 0!!

VOTE: Sirdan

do you assume the town is retarded or else has no other roles.

[ActionDan]

well my alternatives to tierce scum are shos/MafiaSSK so

[ActionDan]

I thought of Spyrex as scum. now I don't think he's more likely scum than Despardo/Shos/MafiaSSK. Esponage never really thought of him at all.

[ActionDan]

1. There was no motivation to claim Even-Night Cop
2. There is no way he is playing like this when he has a powerrole
3. He is lying

1.) unless he is one?
2.) really?
3.) maybe?

[ActionDan]

ill be here.

but i'd rather NL than vote for probable town. and by probable I mean like 90% or greater chance

[ActionDan]

.....

[ActionDan]

still don't want it :/

surprised he hasn't claimed tho

[ActionDan]

also not enough people for sirdan anyway

[ActionDan]

it's 10 min away iirc (or 5 now)

[ActionDan]

Majiffy maybe at some point in the future?

ABR prolly not.

oddly scum read on you is lessening

oh ok.

[ActionDan]

im not going to do it.

[ActionDan]

unless Shadoweh yells at me a lot.

[ActionDan]

I wonder if you can say that with a straight face if you were scum and he was town

[ActionDan]

I actually think its towny. scum would be screamy at an unjust lynch

[ActionDan]

or maybe at worst screaming bloody murder is null.

which means not screaming is null

[ActionDan]

VOTE: Sirdan

crosses fingers?

[ActionDan]

when he flips town can we laugh at the first 5 votes on the wagon.

and maybe do some wagon analysis. not that much would change in the relevant VCA's I pulled up

[ActionDan]

things majiffy would do:

hammer in 0.001 sec

[ActionDan]

Exciting day

[ActionDan]

Cop report?

[ActionDan]

more like Action "Asks ABR for his result" Dan

[ActionDan]

or better yet, someone else besides shadoweh is scum

[ActionDan]

Aren't you curious about shos?

[ActionDan]

Oh for some reason shadoweh

[ActionDan]

Shadoweh scum = SirDan town for the record.

[ActionDan]

I get the oddest feeling shos is going to claim a bus drive

[ActionDan]

And I have no idea why tip died.

Oh possible cop cc and ABR was a sacrificial lamb

[ActionDan]

Aka this theory involves you being not a cop

[ActionDan]

Welp. My heart is broken

[ActionDan]

What. I was gonna vote that guy

[ActionDan]

No quick lunches just yet. The vca that I'll do is ripe. When I do it sometime

[ActionDan]

Or should I just say guilty until proven innocent? Quite frankly, I'm going to figure out SSK's alignment by the end of tomorrow.

Pls don't kill ssk today.

Is he a lurker? Sure, absolutely. But he's also a lurker I have a certain fondness for and once he gets back from his IRL vacation I will be able to get his alignment down easily.

Oh look I found the N1 innocent.

[ActionDan]

So obviously Sirdan wasn't it but he's still probably town

[ActionDan]

literally doesn't matter.

the crumbs were there

[ActionDan]

There's a scum in Peregrine elscouta and shos.

100%.

I think it's shos.

[ActionDan]

VOTE COUNT 1:18

Shadoweh

- 1 - PeregrineV

Espeonage

- 2 - SpyreX, ActionDan

JacobSavage

- 7 - Tierce, Desperado, sirdanilot, shos, Albert B. Rampage,

MafiaSSK

,

Aegor

TheIrishPope

- 5 -

Natirasha

,

Shadoweh

, Espeonage, Cogito Ergo Sum, Elscouta

Tierce

- 2 -

chamber

,

TheIrishPope

sirdanilot

- 1 - JacobSavage

Not voting (0)

With 18 players alive it takes

10

votes to lynch.
Deadline is in

(expired on 2014-01-23 01:00:00)

.

I like this VC. I believe there is 2 scum on each wagon or at least 2 on the JS wagon. and 1 big maybe scum off either.

Shadoweh's abrupt jump off Esponage earlier makes me think it's him on the TIP wagon. candidates for the JS wagon include ABR + 1 other. I'd pick shos but easily I can see Desperado. if it's not ABR then both work. Tierce as backup candidate.

[ActionDan]

There's a scum in Peregrine elscouta and shos.

100%.

I think it's shos.

This is from the aegor lynch wagon js.

[ActionDan]

I'm behind a few pages, but have all of the night actions been claimed and why?

yes. maybe no.

go back to sleep

@Tierce, on that wagon, yes. to put it another way, VCA would say it's probable that the majority of the scum bandwagoned there

[ActionDan]

VOTE: Esponage

[ActionDan]

You're looking at it in a vaccuum

I have my own reads.

Also that Peregrine wagon midday looked like he was mislynch material

[ActionDan]

ok shos it's apparent you've been soft claiming jailkeeper for about all this game day now.

[ActionDan]

Those questions don't seem superrelevant if he gets nightkilled, so give the scum a Night to kill him before looking into this angle?

Sure.

One can only hope.

[ActionDan]

I so dont trust this exercise

[ActionDan]

Ok. If I were a jail keeper I would have blocked desperado N2 and mafiassk N3

[ActionDan]

I guess we're at too low power for that to be a scum gambit between the two of you.

[ActionDan]

Wait shos if you voyeur ed ABR and got protective along with role blocker you probably just confirmed js

[ActionDan]

And scum would have a roleblocker

[ActionDan]

I claimed who I targetted N1.

I should be obvious who I targetted the other nights.

It takes a village

[ActionDan]

shos is a troll

[ActionDan]

I targetted ABR N2,
ActionDan N3.

Cool enough.

Vote: JacobSavage

I don't get the vote

[ActionDan]

Hi get the feeling the discrepancy is due to derp.

[ActionDan]

Vote Js

I almost want this to flip town

[ActionDan]

Wat?

[ActionDan]

:/ i really want to believe him

[ActionDan]

Oh wait he's lynched.

[ActionDan]

I dunno maybe it's shadoweh wanting to lynch SirDan over nl.

[ActionDan]

Vca actually implicates ces/escoulta

[ActionDan]

It wasn't necessarily.

[ActionDan]

I dunno maybe it's shadoweh wanting to lynch SirDan over nl.

Still busy ignoring my question?

Child, please.

Chamber died N1 after expressing a scum read on you while no one else did and your posts didn't strike me as town. I have mentioned all of this before.

[ActionDan]

Anyway boring

[ActionDan]

See, exactly. Your scumreads are omgus. You claim shadoweh was obvscum because she flipped 180 on you, the 'universal townread'?? Lol man, literally everyone called you scum,bsince when are you a townreas of ANYONE?

you try to get towncred for bussing pre-crumb, but in fact the crumb was the only thing that made shadow confsxum - many people had him as yown ( i had him aa strongest townread}. And now - you juat sheep popular wagon(s) with nothing to add.

That's what shadoweh does as scum. She'll flip 180 on a townie.

[ActionDan]

Espeonage ces escoultA

[ActionDan]

Lol I just said that.

[ActionDan]

I'm not sure it's teirce. I'm taking the day slow

[ActionDan]

I did some vca work around the js wagon that seemed potent. I'll re look over it again

[ActionDan]

ActionDan, PeregrineV, profit.

really now.

your certainty in your assessment strikes me as something you wouldn't have if you were town here.

But I dunno.

[ActionDan]

Waiting for a teirce post

[ActionDan]

Your read of peregrine, tierce?

[ActionDan]

Ok I thought his last posts might have changed your mind.

VOTE: tierce

[ActionDan]

It was town

[ActionDan]

What meta

[ActionDan]

If I was scum with SirDan I'd never have voted him d2

[ActionDan]

I also would do esp.

[ActionDan]

If you're talking about ASOIAF I read you as town there and you were town?

If your talking about Spyrex's game I didn't want to lynch you and you were town?

If there's something else I'm forgetting it.

[ActionDan]

how am I supposed to show that. I only feel the difference.

[ActionDan]

and it's not from posting style because that is fairly consistent between all games you have ever played.

[ActionDan]

I do not remember saying that the manner of your posting was scummy. I did say it never struck any town chords this game. My guess is that the content just didn't do it for me

the ~somehow~ this game is you not finding PV town at this juncture and chamber dying after being the only one to express a scum read on you.

[ActionDan]

you know. when push comes to shove. I'm not sure I really want to vote Esp

[ActionDan]

Elscouta can be town. done wavering on that read

[ActionDan]

needs some VC

[ActionDan]

Azasaxadaxa I'm here.

[ActionDan]

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

[ActionDan]

Off to class. Guess I'm.not here

[ActionDan]

It's a mystery as to why you aren't dead.

[ActionDan]

new VCA needs to be put up sometime

[ActionDan]

Double downing on escoulta town. Rest is up in the air

[ActionDan]

I think you are town kinda.

I don't really have a top 2. I kinda think Spy is scum again.

(I also think there is only 2 scum left)

[ActionDan]

I think you are town kinda.

I don't really have a top 2. I kinda think Spy is scum again.

(I also think there is only 2 scum left)

So, to you,

town

is
ActionsDan
Elscouta

Kinda town

PeregrineV

null

shos
Desp
CES
Tierce

scum

SpryeX

???

and des/tierce takes spot 2 I guess but yes. expecting shos to die sometime

[ActionDan]

and he hasn't full claimed yet which is worrisome

[ActionDan]

##Vote Spyrex

if anything he should realize those shadoweh posts were her buddying me to the hilt.

[ActionDan]

its also insane that he posts a VCA and does jack with it

[ActionDan]

Lol. That vca were when I thought js was town.

Grasp some more straws, like your meaningless fluff 1st paragraph. If you "called me out" on SirDan being asleep than whoop de do. What a miraculous occurrence that I would have changed my opinion to call a town to null behavior null

[ActionDan]

Hey tierce if I say peregrine shos and escoulta can't all be town does that obligate me to push them for other reasons that I have yet to find exist?

[ActionDan]

And for the record I still harbor suspicion on shos.

[ActionDan]

Oohhhh SNAP I'm a bitch.

Which is even cuter when you go back and realize how long and hard you've been beating that sirdan drum like a boss.

But thats fine for now.

Unvote, Vote: ActionDan

The weird interplay between shadoweh and him gets me but this:

when he flips town can we laugh at the first 5 votes on the wagon.

and maybe do some wagon analysis. not that much would change in the relevant VCA's I pulled up

sirdanilot - 8 - Desperado, Espeonage, MafiaSSK, Elscouta, shos, Shadoweh, Tierce, ActionDan

Now, if Desp is town and SD is scum, the fact the first 5 are all town is pre-pushing a pretty solid angle to look at.

@shos: unless someone has something that will help today, no massclaim yet.

Scum scum scum post. Vote permanant

[ActionDan]

I am clearly the most competent scum in this thread shos. By all means keep your vote on me you're doing good. <---- reverse reverse psychology.

[ActionDan]

I cannot both be a fool and a great scum mastermind.

[ActionDan]

Sirdan would have been literally the last person I would have killed in this game

well he would have voted tierce or you today + people who are actually town (i.e. me) townread him.

So he's actually a really good NK for you

[ActionDan]

I agree with massclaim at this juncture.

I'll start.

I'm a VT.

Spyrex can go next

[ActionDan]

also no house affiliations if that matters

[ActionDan]

Yeah okay we can do this one Today.


Hey.

Hey ActionDan.

First, the whole dance with Shadoweh about it being weird that sirdanilot wasn't around to protest his wagon at 4:30 AM his time--and then, when I called you out on it, you miraculously thought it was Townish then null then hey it's nothing why did you even bring it up that someone didn't claim when they are asleep. Now this with SpyreX, when you're to blame for much the same; this "VCA" can only be taken as such with the quote symbols, and it sure is "ripe". You're trying to pin perfectly natural behavior on people as scummy instead of trying to analyze it and figuring out that it's not scummy to do the things they do.

Child,

please

.

In regards to the last two lines the natural thing to do after meticulously color coding every VC is to comment on it. Seems like random spyrex defense

[ActionDan]

gonna look over this

[ActionDan]

I don't believe there's 5 scum if peregrine is scum. If he's town I don't think there's 5 either. People thinking there is 5 scum seem kinda derpy to me

[ActionDan]

Which shos had said he wasn't, so...?

Doesn't matter. Scum would know better and that doesn't match your proposed rationale for unclaiming Jailkeeper.

If you're town, Tierce, there's a 3-man scum team out there to catch with connections between them. So catch that scum team.

Like this

[ActionDan]

There's some stuff directed at you earlier. I haven't read it but some people say it's incriminating.

[ActionDan]

Let my do a few isos

[ActionDan]

Peregrine after the comment "i want to believe Jacob" i made, what were you feeling in your next post?

[ActionDan]

k

##Vote Tierce

I believe PeregrineV. Or at least, it's more likely he's town.

[ActionDan]

the only thing is getting over 2 trackers.

[ActionDan]

but it isn't too awful.

17 players 1 weak doc / 1 GODROLE 1-shot cop-vig / 2 trackers / possibly 1 voyeur (who if scum is probably a roleblocker/jailkeeper lol) / 8 - 9 VTS / 1 strongman of sorts / 1 rolecop / 2 other scum

sounds right.

[ActionDan]

So time to see if we have a peregrine ces spy scumteam

[ActionDan]

Still think there's only 4 scum total on Tierce scum flip. (Especially if she flips some other pr)

[ActionDan]

I also think it is one of CES/Spyrex.

I have not ruled out either PR being scum but... probably like 1% chance for each

[ActionDan]

========[}
{]========

eh.

Despardo, will the game be over if I vote you?

[ActionDan]

Peregrine what we're your results again? And shos could you detail your results as well?

[ActionDan]

Enerdhil

[ActionDan]

Nkbody targetted PV last night. Earlier nights i waa blocked. N1 tierce was targetted by noone, and n2 AbR was jailkept.


That crumb is interesting. To compare with PVs results, it really works that des/spy is sxum. Im gonna investigate further.

do you mean N3? what was your N2 result?

[ActionDan]

VOTE: despardo

Yawn. I hope that's gg.

[ActionDan]

Shos needs to clarify his results though

[ActionDan]

I also win at life

[ActionDan]

Oh yeah ageors role was OP. For the future

[ActionDan]

When I realized what the flavor was I couldn't help feeling terrible trying to kill sensible people

[ActionDan]

The weak doctor crumbing by nat was fine

[ActionDan]

I was going to lynch between and Spyrex the day Peregrine claimed the track on Tierce