You.In post 491, shos wrote:so who's scum?
VOTE: shos.
My basic reasoning was given before, though nobody's exactly missing much. Basically, though, your posts have been ridiculously to a scum agenda.
M's my best guess for scumbuddy. (Though, I
You.In post 491, shos wrote:so who's scum?
Yep. Abbreviating your username!In post 500, MTD wrote:@Marangal: He means me with M.
Let's not consider. Let's do.In post 513, GreyICE wrote:I'm really considering a Marangal vote
Yep!In post 514, Guyett wrote:Grey and mastin town block?
Kinda self-explanatory? My townread on Kovora has changed into a scumread thanks to Marangal. GreyICE-Guyett townbloc is a go, too.In post 518, MTD wrote:What the hell?In post 517, mastin2 wrote:Yep. Abbreviating your username!In post 500, MTD wrote:@Marangal: He means me with M.
Let's not consider. Let's do.In post 513, GreyICE wrote:I'm really considering a Marangal vote
VOTE: Marangal.
My read's been inverted. Kovora was town--she is not.
Yep!In post 514, Guyett wrote:Grey and mastin town block?
Well, you would, given that you're probably scum.In post 524, MTD wrote:Well ok, was confused because of "Kovara was town" instead of "Kovara was a townread" or something, but that makes some sense. And I disagree.
I'm really beginning to question if the cops are a town force, because bluntly, this doesn't seem like a town-motivated interrogation. Guyett was in here posting, and now is absent right when he'd be needed most. Additionally, he was already present throughout the game. If they wanted to take a player involved in the current discussion (including voting Mara), why not take a player new to the scene, like myself?
Mainly because I don't really have that much confidence.In post 577, Ms Marangal wrote:and, if Garmr/Mastin is town where is she? she should be leading this and she should be hammering down on me pretty damn hard if she actually thinks that I'm scum here because she knows I can be pretty slimy, but I don't see any of that at all.
Because there's nothing town in there.In post 581, shos wrote:or if you have then perhaps you can enlighten me on how you don't townread me
Helpful hint, game-me and theory-me are completely different.In post 654, jon_h61 wrote:I've never played with Mastin, but I know who she is from MD.
Extremely well. I'm still working on fully regaining my focus, my drive, and my passion for the game, but it was a huge improvement from where I was, even if not as good as it could have been. (AP got kinda unresponsive near the end and Empking was a no-show.)In post 660, Guyett wrote:How did it go mastin?
Well, my read on you was apathetic before, but now it's more scum.In post 630, Ms Marangal wrote:I will be spending quality time with mastin myself when she gets back.
We had already long, LONG since done that by the time you posted this. I'll do so as soon as Antihero gives the go-ahead to paraphrase. We blazed a bright fire of nearly a hundred posts. (Okay, not quite, but it's closer to 100 than it is to 50, and I'm rounding up to the nearest 50. )In post 633, Guyett wrote:Mastin talk to them about their town and scum reads.
talk about previous investigations ect
Exactly what it sounds like?In post 663, MTD wrote:I am curious what that is supposed to mean.
Yeah, you're scum.In post 668, Ms Marangal wrote:So, you lied when you told me Shos was the greater scum-read when I brought it up prior to getting called in for investigation. ok
I ignored your gearing up to lynch me because there was nothing worth commenting on at the time. Nothing you said in relationship to me was town or scum. Now it is (scum).In post 669, Ms Marangal wrote:and, not only that, but you completely ignore the fact that I was starting to gear up towards trying to lynch you which is something that should have caught your attention because you know that I'm probably never going to stop until I get the lynch I want (as either alignment, but I'm more pushy as scum) and, at that point, you had MTD under myself and John however you havn't even thought of pushing either of them prior to getting called into investigation.
My scumread on Mara is actually stronger than my scumread on jonh, so I'd appreciate sheeping me. MTD's also a scumread.In post 676, Guyett wrote:Scum is within this group { jonh_61, Ms Marangal, Lady Lambdadelta, dopog}
Not 100% comfortable with calling MTD and Shos town yet
Ehhhhh, that's a bit iffy. He's a townread, yeah, but not townbloc-read.In post 678, Guyett wrote:I'll have to ask mastin and grey if they want shos in our townbloc. I'm inclined to say he's prob town due to my chat with the cops
Nope! Rather, I probably saw it, but thought it so worthless that I never gave it a second thought.In post 689, shos wrote:mastin, why are you voting ms mara. have you seen the reasoning I gave for why she is town?
That's...not really a case.In post 692, shos wrote:REREAD THEN.In post 534, shos wrote:Unless dessew has been planning to go straight up against his pal, I highly doubt kovaraslot is scum with Dessew. Just read the ISO.
"Oh, shos is scum with MTD. Painfully obvious."In post 693, dopog wrote:@Mastin: Can you just flesh out your progression of thoughts on shos a bit more? Wanna see where you're coming from.
VOTE: MTDIn post 698, MTD wrote:I don't get the point of the last line.In post 697, dopog wrote:I'm vt all the way
Go hammer away
This is probably it eh? and I guess as I said before not really too miffed; played average and stuff
But I mean seriously shos and (mostly?) mtd. I'm not like "oh yeah that's a concrete scumtell" I'm saying that's what I think when I read a post.
Cya
I think I am going to hammer this, any objections?
No.In post 718, shos wrote:I'm having trouble seeing mastin voting MTD this close to deadline. msatin, you should hammer.
Oi! AP! I did tell them that. It's there in both versions, the short and the detailed one. I made it quite explicit my annoyance at you calling me scum.In post 740, MTD wrote:I ask what she didn't tell, AP says he called her scum repeatedly until she got annoyed (lol)
I'd be more willing to lynch you than her.In post 767, shos wrote:Lambdadelta looks good for a lynch.
In post 774, shos wrote:@mastin: you never specified why you actually want to lynch me, lol.
In post 776, MTD wrote:@mastin: I am still waiting for any reasoning why you want to lynch me.
Last I knew, she wasn't as town to them as they originally thought, but they didn't think her scum at the time.In post 780, MTD wrote:Ok, if anyone didn't know, LLD is at L-1 currently and jon said he has intent to hammer, so she should at least come here, although I suspect he was taken out at this point because the police doesn't agree with LLD-scum...
The problem with this is that shos and MTD are the only players I don't have good feelings for. Heck, Guyett's the only player I really have good feelings for.In post 785, GreyICE wrote:Honestly, I have really good feelings about Mastin, she's fairly obviously not a good choice. I feel really good about Shos at this point, and I feel really good about MTD
That leaves what, Guyett and LLD? Guyett at least seems to give a shit here. Although it should be noted, Nobody Special has a meta of replacing out as scum, so please keep that in mind.
Oh, yeah. Jon. Forgot about him. He's scum.In post 799, jon_h61 wrote:When you're on the outside 36 hours seems like a long time to wait for the interrogatee to get back, but it went too quickly during interrogation for my liking. I guess the only thing I carried away from it is that both AP and Empking think Mastin should be Today's lynch. AP also said that he thought Grey is scum, and that he thinks LLD is Town. I had more I wanted to get from them, but it didn't get to happen.
AP said that they are Kind of pro-Town, but not exactly Town. He also said they wouldn't post in the game thread at all this game.
Mastin is calling MTD scum, but not giving any case that I can see. The same with shos and me. 797 is another example of doing the same. What conversation we (the Police) had convinced me that our best chance of hitting scum is to
VOTE: Mastin2
No. My statement was saying that I thought jon was scum. Which by definition would mean that I thought one of you was town and that the other was scum, with only two scum.In post 809, MTD wrote:3 scum? Srsly?In post 805, mastin2 wrote:Oh, yeah. Jon. Forgot about him. He's scum.
Really think that this is saying, "Hi, scumbuddy. Sorry, I'm actually not your scumbuddy."In post 831, GreyICE wrote:sucks to be you mtd
Reinforced here. He's not speaking to those who're posting. He's speaking to those not around.In post 835, GreyICE wrote:To any town: I neither win with you nor the scum. Emp and AP can arrest one person, and will do so shortly. That person will be scum. Lynching me is counterproductive to your win condition, and my claim is nothing BUT testable.
Also, this is addressed more to shos and myself than to MTD.In post 843, GreyICE wrote:The major reason I'm posting this is because if any townies come in and vote for anyone who turns out to be town (or me), my two "scumbuddies" have the potential to jump on it for lynch, which would be catastrophic for both town and cops.
Also looks genuine,In post 854, shos wrote:I donot understand what "arrest" means. If they take a vote away, say ends? Or is it mylo?
And also looks fake.In post 855, MTD wrote:I think it basically means they have a dayvig-shot.
Also I think (hope) the day continues after that, otherwise town has no chance.
Weekend V/LA. You can confirm by searching my posting history that I've basically not posted anything anywhere. (Okay, aside from typing up an MD post last night at 2 AM. Which, being 2 AM, left me putting off the game until today. Said MD post was typed without internet access, anyway. Was literally a post-then-ghost.)In post 866, shos wrote:mastin2.
who has literally said nothing in the first phase of the day. -___-;
This is also really.In post 190, MTD wrote:If you are so desperate for a vote, fine
VOTE: GreyICE
Also Private is lurking, yes, but that is null in itself. so anyway,
@Private: Feel like sharing thoughts?
In post 753, MTD wrote:Btw, shos scumispossible IMO, partly because of this:
I know this is something town might say as well in that situation, still, it doesn't quite sit right with me.
Also seems to be setting up the possibility of this very scenario.In post 776, MTD wrote:@mastin: I am still waiting for any reasoning why you want to lynch me.
Yes. "MTD looks like scum.In post 871, MTD wrote:C'mon, you said about both shos and me, that our play "heavily seems like scum" in #797 and then in your very next post you go "oh and Jon is scum" without saying anything about the two of us?
If I was scum, then I'd sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. Because you've shown SEVERE suspicion of shos, and shos has reciprocated, while basically ignoring me. That's IDEAL scum conditions. A scuMastin couldn't ask for a better lylo. But I'm town, so I actually have to do the work of trying to figure out if you're town or not.Well, great, I seriously hope you are scum right now, because you don't sound like you would even stop a second to think about me being town right now.
Again. I am considering. I'm not ignoring the possibility. It's just that literally everything is pointing to you. shos being scum is not impossible. But the picture it paints is highly convoluted and contrived. You being scum is not a perfect picture, but scum never are going to be picture-perfect. It makes sense.In post 876, MTD wrote:Your posting makes it obvious that me thinking you wouldn't even consider me as town was correct.
Not everything you've said is scum. When I get around to a full case, I can show that most strongly. By showing the town elements, and also the scum elements from shos. It's just that, well. Everything is pointing your way.Interpreting everything your hands can tell as HEAVILY sounding scummy and you STRONGLY leaning scum on me (and mentioning this in every single post) is really entertaining to watch.
Funny you say that.Luckily, I think you are not, but I will wait for shos now.
Among others. There's a whole heck of a lot more. You were clearly pointing towards shos. You were clearly buddying me. Until I suddenly said I was scumreading you. And now, you've pulled a full reversal, not only dropping the shos scumread, but buddying him and attacking me, in basically the ultimate lylo omgus. It really. REALLY. Looks like you're scum, who panicked when their planned strategy suddenly blew up in their face.In post 827, MTD wrote:(specifically I was (beside from LLD) also hoping for more from mastin)
In post 799, jon_h61 wrote:I guess the only thing I carried away from it is that both AP and Empking think Mastin should be Today's lynch. AP also said that he thought Grey is scum, and that he thinks LLD is Town. I had more I wanted to get from them, but it didn't get to happen.
AP said that they are Kind of pro-Town, but not exactly Town. He also said they wouldn't post in the game thread at all this game.
Mastin is calling MTD scum, but not giving any case that I can see. The same with shos and me. 797 is another example of doing the same. What conversation we (the Police) had convinced me that our best chance of hitting scum is to
VOTE: Mastin2
In particular, this attitude from jon. Keep in mind the perspective of a goon yesterday. If they didn't know about the godfather/usurper mechanic, they thought yesterday with four scum alive would be lylo. Why bus a scumbuddy when you can go for a win? It doesn't add up.In post 800, jon_h61 wrote:This lines up with what I was originally thinking about Mastin, and I was really leaning scum on LLD. Now I'm back to second guessing myself.In post 794, shos wrote:Mastin's life have been difficult lately, and when any content comes from that slot that will interest me itll be regarding myself. So I can definitely live with a lynxh right now, especially seeing this:
What are peoples' thoughts on our Cops? Is there any possibility that maybe at least one of them is trying to influence us toward a scum win?
Now I AM getting paranoid.
I said it was possible, especially on the godfather's end. It makes more sense for the person being targeted to know they're being targeted than it does for their grunts to know that someone's targeting the godfather. It also makes a little more sense than the godfather being completely unaware that they have a usurper after them. (If no message was available, the only tip-off would be the scumteam's size, which could be explained by other factors.)In post 891, MTD wrote:But keep in mind that you said earlier that you think scum knew something about the "usurper".
I know the godfather is targeted through a combination of GreyICE's posting in-thread, the interrogation with AP where he revealed the existence of the godfather and the usurper, and through knowing what the definition of a usurper is. Usurpers near-universally target the godfather to steal their place.In post 893, MTD wrote:Again, how do you know so much about the godfather? How is he being "targeted"?
Why does the godfather matter in this context?
Isn't godfather just a goon that shows "town" to cops?
Well, you know it was lost because you know what time the rollback was during, and know what time I replaced in. I got my role PM basically at the end of N1--do you have a beginning-of-D2 PM in your inbox? No? Do you have a beginning-of-day PM for other days? Yes? Then there's your proof that it was lost, along with the announcement OF my replacing in.In post 894, MTD wrote:If that last point is true, it has some value IMO, of course there is no way for us to confirm it though...
(and I mean confirming it was A. lost (maybe we could) and B. you didn't get it back (we can't))
Because if the scum suspected a usurper, then his attitude at the beginning would've been a dead-giveaway. His posting looked town to me. In hindsight, you can see it's usurper. But as scum, I'd know he was scum, and wonder about his posting.In post 896, MTD wrote:Btw, why do you say GreyICE would be the first player you would lynch as scum when as scum you would have thought he was your scumbuddy?
Except one of my main points against you is that you've specifically avoided trying to incriminate yourself on wagons, while still pushing them. Not voting, but supporting them. How many times have you said "not hammering" or akin, but "support anyway"? (Not exact wording.)Notice that points away from me as well btw, as I would have gone for the LLD-fastlynch.
AP.In post 909, MTD wrote:On the one hand mastin was the only alive player they asked me for a read on, however then they mostly argued against my scumread on her.
AP was paranoid of me. Said paranoia apparently was addressed if what you say from yours is true. I'm going from memory, but I believe they said shos was a lynch for later.
Uh, I don't remember that? I think he disagreed with the scumread, not thinking it a townread.What also throws me off is that mastin said that APtownreadjon.
Fairly certain they mentioned taking GI in N1. And I know that GI mentioned it in the lost posts that he was.Btw, I just realized that actually makes sense since afaik they didn't talk to grey before any of our interrogations, right?
In post 867, shos wrote:oh man this is going to be a reaaaaaheeeally hard lylo
In post 883, shos wrote:I was asleep, why the rush, we have a full deadline.
gonna go to work and uni today, probably not the super best day to vote in lylo
In post 884, shos wrote:well, tomorrowI will see this game through.
you guys are welcome to burst at each other while I'm out, convince me you're not scum.
In post 902, shos wrote:lol I'm so townie
the entire interrogation is me talking with myself about how greyice sucks and OMFG WHY IS DESSEW AGREEING
I'm totally pullthing the D1 argument for you MTD, again, for why I am town XD read the QT after the game
OMFG THERE IS A HINT
Suddenly getting very.In post 904, shos wrote:Alright so here's the deal
Empking and Wind told me to convey a message from the police to town, which I thought was stupid so I ignored it, but now it is pure gold: they said that scum are probably just laughing while we're fighting when they lurk(paraphrase)....this was on February 19th, so I wnet back and saw if either of you lurked at that time or so, and it seems that Garmr has indeed been like that, or something.
so hmmn.
In post 883, shos wrote:I was asleep,why the rush, we have a full deadline.
gonna go to work and uni today, probably not the super best day to vote in lylo
What changed, shos? You went from "let's not rush, we've got a full deadline" to "Imma gonna end it tomorrowz".
I'll need to check my facts, but I think this actually explains a lot. GI didn't get a chance to talk to the cops N1 as much as he needed to and never revealed the names. The cops didn't target him again until much later, still trying to figure out who the scum were. He told them, and they supported it, and they pulled the trigger on jon.In post 848, GreyICE wrote:Like the previous times I was making fun of you? That was just me passing on messages about random shit underhandedly.
This time it's just me passing on messages directly. That was not pro-cop.
He ranted about Guyett, too, but didn't say anything about Guyett's alignment, either, if memory serves.In post 920, MTD wrote:Grey. When the cops took in shos for questioning he ranted about them taking a townie. Now that might be either sincere or him trying to look like a good scumbuddy.
He ranted about them taking mastin too, but didn't explicitely say anything about alignment.
If this is true, it's possible GI's stances were trying to tell the cops his info. Like, taking out jon from the lynch list...but not calling him town. (I'll need to fact-check that; I caught it on a skim of his iso.) Calling shos scum might also fit into that.
Well, it was a pro-scum idea, so if he could con a town player into going along with it, game would be over with a scum win.In post 924, MTD wrote:What do you make of shos bringing up the possibility of lynching grey again after it was already discussed?
Looks important.In post 798, GreyICE wrote:Mastin, I love you, but I've told you before one of the fastest ways for me to get a town read on someone is for you to tell me they're 100% scum.
Am good with an LLD lynch, but I'd vaguely like to hear something from Jon. She doesn't seem to give a shit, which is a good sign - playing solo serial killer after a day 1 scumbuddy lynch is hyper demoralizing.
What I caught. Again, very well could have been code for "SHOS IS SCUM, BUT NOT THE GODFATHER".
This also looks really important; it's about shos.In post 642, GreyICE wrote:This feels like he really wants to know my role.
Another potentially important one.In post 571, GreyICE wrote:Nothing 100%, but I don't feel like a PI lynch today.
Worrying about the alignment of someone you can't even lynch (and who is being replaced) remains an enormous waste of fucking time. Shos, why are you diddling about with that shit?
So would've Garmr.In post 928, MTD wrote:However if shos was scum, he would actually have bussed ALL of his scumpartners at some point.
Admittedly null-scum, but read the descriptions here.In post 389, Garmr wrote:Grey ice-He seems to be paranoid as fuck his not acting like his usual sane self town or scum. So I really don't know how to handle him as a lot of the shit his cases have been null and one or two points a little have a tiniest bit of merit at best. I don't know what to make of him so I'm leaving him unrated
Dessew-at first I thought he was a vi but his hop onto the muffin wagon was a little more suss and his action send a couple of shivers down my spine. Through I think he could just be a vi because of mara's actions but I'll put him as null scum.
Private-null-scum he just doesn't seem to give two fucks about this game.
This could explain a scum-shos's actions. Yeah, he said it in jest, but...it actually kinda applies, doesn't it?In post 227, shos wrote:Bastard bastard mod.
Another biggie; if the Godfather was aware there was a usurper, well, a usurper is essentially just that: a third party lyncher.In post 228, shos wrote:for example, I now kinda think that you are a third party jester. that is precisely the tell that you said only mafia do. and you..you fit to TWO possible third parties by now - a lyncher for Muffin, and a jester; I don't see how you're going up town and muffin's scum.
Another explanation for shos voting a scumbuddy is if the police suspected dessew; that'd give incentive for shos to want to be on their good side.In post 403, shos wrote:Well i have messages from the dead topic. Ehm, i mean, other side. I mean, policee
Ill poat from home in like 11 hours. Meanwhile
VOTE: dessew
L+6
In a way, this...kinda actually happened; might be important.In post 547, shos wrote:My assumption is that the cops will join the game in lylo or after it or something, or, that one of them is scum, and they will enter the game after 2 scum are down
If shos was scumhunting scum (looking for a usurper), making a statement like this actually makes perfect sense.
It was actually this. As I was driving, I was thinking about the game, and on shos. I concluded he could be scum, and that's what my mind was thinking. Especially given the mechanic of the game is apparently largely paranoia, and paranoia of scumbuddies = bussing them.In post 932, MTD wrote:Ok from meta I can confirm that this much bussing would be exceptional from shos.
Fridge Logic, only in this case, 'driving in a car logic'. I was struck by a thought that made shos be likely town, but by the time I got to a place I could actually type it our, I had forgotten what that thought was. Thus the post.In post 935, MTD wrote:Hm?
In post 935, MTD wrote:I need things from shos now I think or I will just be going in circles.
And both of these look town, to.In post 937, MTD wrote:if shos isn't scum you are and right now both seem about equally likely to me.
Except Garmr was active at the time you're saying he was supposedly lurking.In post 942, shos wrote:I literally spoke about dessew the entire thread, they could just agree if they wanted that. when he said that scum lurked, he marked it with an asterix. I thought it was meaningless at the time.
This also reads as highly BS, 'specially given that as soon as it was brought up to the cops, they said you were fakeclaiming it.and that quote was supposed to get me nightkilled, it was a 'I am a PR' crumb that never got picked up. as a VT, I hoped to lure the nightkill, thinking that there are other PRs.
Because we never gave you the chance. I almost did. MTD apparently also almost did. We were at each others' throats for quite a bit. Had one of us actually voted the other, you could have. You haven't had a chance; you voting would make a 1v1 that's only a 50% chance at winning.In post 943, shos wrote:'see this through' does not mean that I'm ending the game, also, you can see that I haven't really done that xD
This is a quote snipe of all quote snipes possible. GI called me scum...once.In post 945, shos wrote:GreyICE called you scum, mastin
Again. This is the same vibe in posting to come from a scum-orc in Tales' lylo.In post 949, shos wrote:seriously, you guys should just vote each other x)
So did I. I defended town a lot and attacked scum a lot.In post 951, shos wrote:I mean literally, go through my ISO, I went against both flipped scum and protected townies allll the way, except for Lambda of course, which is just my bad :/
Except he also posted on the eighteenth, a day before the accusation, too. Meaning that Garmr was plenty active and thus, not lurking.In post 963, shos wrote:first quote - garmr started talking loud about ~hour *after* that was posted; I cannot post timestamps here.
But they were quick to point out the gambit as being fake, and scumread you in part because of it.the cops were not the ones intended to shoot me.
But you're planning on it.as you can see I'm not yet voting you.
Except yes you do. You just saw it in your Open. AP and I explicitly described this behavior. If you've had any previous game that had both AP and I in it, it would be described there, too, because it applies in basically every single game we share. He doesn't misread me. Ever.your point about AP - firstly, no, I don't know that,
But still posting as scum. I'm not talking about scumhunting efforts. (Speaking of which, my understanding is that the surviving scum HAD incentive to legitimately scumhunt anyway, which again counters the main point you've used as your defense.) The way you're thinking. It simply doesn't look like the town shos I've seen in countless games; it seems like your thought is just...different.in Under the Sea there was another scumteam, I was legitimately scumhunting there, lol.
Uh...you ask what you gain from a TvT fight...and then describe precisely what a TvT fight actually is as what you'd do.what benefit to I get from a TvT fight? I, as scum, just need one of you to think the other is scum. I need only one faulty vote, I don't need an entire bible here.
Which, again, would be acting against his wincon if I was scum. He listed Grey as town; his scumbuddy was certainly one of the other two, leaving LLD and myself as mislynches. It's good for scum to have one lynch candidate be a mislynch. It's a field day if two or three lynch candidates are mislynches. A scum player not aware of the usurper would be going for the win. So having me as someone available to vote or not-vote is advantageous to a scum wincon.In post 969, MTD wrote:For reference.In post 777, jon_h61 wrote:I'm pretty sure Grey, MTD, and Shos are all Town. Mastin hasn't been scum hunting much, but I do understand why.
He went for voting mastin in his next post.
Jon was scum.In post 971, MTD wrote:@mastin: What about that "AP reads me perfectly" then?
That IS him townreading me, M.In post 973, MTD wrote:Mind, that AP doesn't exactly say he townreads you, he says something like "mastin could be scum, but..." and then some points that speak against my points for scumreading you.
In post 292, AngryPidgeon wrote:I think I have townreads of decreasing magnitude (roughly) on:
KidA, Lia, mastin, Egg, Zar, Chamber.
Basically, AP had me as a decent townread, and described the mechanic between us perfectly.In post 299, AngryPidgeon wrote:Mastin and I are not buddies, contrary to what our posting here may imply. We really are more like arch-nemeses that respect each other a lot. She is the Lucille Austero to my Lucille Bluth. I the magneto to her Professor X.
Us not having game-breaking paranoia about each other is something I just wanna soak in and enjoy since this hasn't happened since I can remember. Hell, hte last time I remember us working together was GoW mafia like a year ago where we both Died on N1 anyways and it took me threatening to out mastin's cop ceumb to get her to trust me.
He also got paranoid of me, like he did this game...In post 321, AngryPidgeon wrote:Mastin, I might be getting paranoid bout you. I know its dumb, but that one sentence you said is making me nervous.
This. The first sentence feels like scum you. And I need to know you are town cause you being scum is gonna shake up my reads for sure.
...But still had me as town, aside from paranoia. I could quote more, but most of it is him setting up a real-crumb of hider to fake-hide behind me.In post 357, AngryPidgeon wrote:Probtown: mastin2, formerfish, Chamber
As he revealed here. He trusted me enough to risk hiding elsewhere, in spite of the 'crumb pointing to him hiding behind me. Basically, he doubted, but ultimately gambited on me being town.In post 505, AngryPidgeon wrote:Sorry mastin, Im pretty sure I your death is on me there.
Regardless of who's scum, you already know that they're just making sure.In post 1006, shos wrote:MTD are you really town or is it just making sure because game is bastard?
You have NO idea.In post 1010, MTD wrote:Well played mastin.
I warned you about this during a contemporary game to this one, Guyett. If you had listened to the town-me there you scumread, you'd have been fine.In post 1011, Guyett wrote:@everyone if I townread mastin he's scum and if I scum read him hes town
mastin2 wrote:*grumble, grumble, gripe, gripe*
You realize that AP replacing in has basically condemned me to a guaranteed loss, right? If you gave him PI's role, near-guaranteed win. Him having the cop role? Guaranteed loss. Dammit, I really wanted to be scum with him again.
(For the record--I killed zMuffinman absolutely blindly, without having read a single thing in the thread. I had NO clue he was being scumread. I just knew that I didn't want to give him the chance to nail my ass. )mastin2 wrote:Kill: MS Marangal.
I really.
REALLY.
Want to kill GreyICE; he's the mafia traitor. I'm sure of it.
But I'm afraid killing him incriminates me to AP.
I also can't kill, say, shos for the same reasons.
Nor do I want an entirely pro-town nightkill.
So I choose this, as something that serves my scum wincon, is in line with the zMuff kill, and which can plausibly come from a vig.
Or not, apparently, but hey. Rather fight an imagined foe that I see than not fight a real foe that blinded me.mastin2 wrote:(Also, I find myself playing the role of Light Yagami. Screw this being Paranoia; this game is Death Note. I'm out for myself and myself only. GreyICE just pulled an L-reveal, in that while I now know 100% for surez that he's the traitor, I don't think I can safely kill him, given that killing him would tip the police off about me. And bluntly, I don't for one minute believe that he actually thinks me to be the goon. He's not that stupid. He's lying to me, I'm lying to him, we both know it and yet are both continuing on as a formality anyway. )
Funny thing is, I could tell that instantly, since I knew of that game and had read it.In post 1019, Antihero wrote:my inspiration was this game called "mostly mountainous": http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=15655
He did during the night!In post 1026, GreyICE wrote:Also this role was completely stupid because it was defeated entirely by PrivateI's play. He never posted in the scum QT. Ever.
Ask the mod politely in a PM?You can prod people for not posting in the game, but how do you prod them for not posting in the scum QT?
If it makes you feel better, I wasn't exactly appreciative of my role, either.I couldn't design a less fun role to play if I tried.