Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

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I'm going to win.

Not on my watch

VOTE: Katyusha

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VOTE: UC Voyager

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So we should try to leave RVS as soon as everyone has posted

I cannot explain how much more gets done when RVS is short.

Like, I got out of a game yesterday where we left RVS fast. Me and the other townies won day two.
Ironic enough, Lucky was in that game and they were scum.

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Let's put UC on L-1

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That doesn't mean that he'll do that every game, especially he posted that RVS diatribe in other games

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Ironically one of the best things scum can do is force an early end to RVS and stagnate the game

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VOTE: BuJaber

Avatar is too edgy for me please lynch this

VOTE: internecine

Hmmm. Avatars mean nothing

This is a bad post also, either he's RVSing and contradicting himself, or he's serious, which is just terrible

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Pagetop

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Fuck

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Help us put UC to L-1

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I'm pushing for instant L-1, isn't that pretty careless?

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We have 3 good candidates already

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VOTE: Flub

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I'm town

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np

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UC/Flubber/Sephiroth/INtercinfoanwrgaergn

[Not_Mafia]

Someone state intent

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Which game was that? I seem to forget games as soon as they finish these days

[Not_Mafia]

That's just what Hopkirk does

[Not_Mafia]

Who are your scumpartners?

[Not_Mafia]

Okay mine are reinoe and your mum, yours?

[Not_Mafia]

So you're reinoe?

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VOTE: Not_Mafia L-1 this pls and make him claim.

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I won't claim

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{Katsuya, humaneatingmonkey}
{mozamis, BuJaber}
{Hopkirk, sheepsaysmeep}
{Sergtacos, Schism}
{Internecine, UC Voyager}
{Sephiroth, Flubbernugget, Not_Mafia}

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Yes I'm asking him how his reads change with me as town.

If you flip town then I'll townread you

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n_m, am I supposed to read the top as most scummy or bottom as most scummy?

Bottom is scummiest

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Don't like UC's lurking

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ucv isnt really lurking
it's been like one day

Nah he's been active elsewhere and has things to answer directly that are from the beginning of the game

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lolno

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It's d1, there's no point

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It was aggressively wrong, does that count?

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no
next

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UC still needs to do something

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You just called me a dick and then told me to be civil in the same post like what

Just be fucking civil you shitting cuntflap

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Reported

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Not mafia are you caught up

Yes and no

[Not_Mafia]

I've been skimming

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VOTE: UC Voyager

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UC wagon is DeWay to go

[Not_Mafia]

That not true

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No, he should claim, deadline is irrelevant

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i voted him for lack of content
if he literally produces some towny content i'll hop off

He won't

[Not_Mafia]

Someone state intent

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or just hammer

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Good decision

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If he wanted a summary he'd ask for one. He was asking for an explanation of something he read

You're also ignoring the fact he's been online and posting elsewhere the past few days. He's ignoring the game deliberately.

An alternative explination for inactivity is that it has 45 pages in about 4 days.

it's not policy

It's because of inactivity. That's a policy lynch.

No it isn't

[Not_Mafia]

no AI posts.

Wrong

[Not_Mafia]

Someone hammer UC

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Hammer

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Nope, hammer

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unvote, vote: DeWay

Someone hammer. Sheep you're a major buzzkill.

[Not_Mafia]

Why is UC not hammered?

[Not_Mafia]

'please tell me why i should claim'
I didn't say you should. I'm wondering if you know the current situation (which isn't clear from your first few posts)

Also you were in the Moz/Hop GI game too, so I'd like your thoughts there.

yes i am very aware. this site hates people who can't post 24/7, and i have not been super active. if i am lynched, I will be like a shit ton of townies who are lynched by for the NAI act of lurking

You’re not being lynched for inactivity. NEXT

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My only regret is this didn't happen sooner

[Not_Mafia]

if i die
remember meeeeeeeeeeeee

you won't die tonight. hopkirk probably will

no you just didnt read it

no. no no. no no. let me stop you right there

He's right

[Not_Mafia]

I'm still waiting for a reason we shouldn't have done this lynch

[Not_Mafia]

Well aren't we off to a great start

VOTE: Seph

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Intern is alive

[Not_Mafia]

Updated scumpool: Moz/Kat/Bu/Serg/Intern/UC

like I can’t look at this and think that he’s pushing on scum here ever

moz Bu

intern

and uc have all

flipped town,

I know i’m town, and i’m skeptical of a team that doesn’t at least tell serg what’s happening since rn he’s playing like lynchbait

maybe serg is getting bussed idfk but the way he handled the UCV wagon felt like he knew it was a ml

he long crossed the “he’s wrong town” horizon - his turn on me was really strangely timed and I don’t think town has that thought process ever

I meant this

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I agree he's town, I just thought you'd misread the flips

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I could vote either, he was just the first name to jump out at me when I looked at the alive list

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pordget

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Yes Firebringer I would

[Not_Mafia]

Imagine there's no heaven

[Not_Mafia]

The self hammerer is lecturing us

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except for Flubber and Hopkirk.

lol

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I regret neither of these lynches

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We did, we lynched you

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I literally didn't get a chance to reread.

You self hammered

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You self hammered

Yes as previously mentioned

I refused

once I was being used for an ultimatum. That prevented me from rereading.

[Not_Mafia]

Are you really 27?

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I am perturbed

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I support a lynch today and mass claim

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@mod How would a Universal Back-Up resolve if two PRs died in the same night?

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And I'm town regardless of Fire's alignment

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lulz, why didn't you ask?

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VOTE: Firebringer

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UNVOTE:

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Why gambit like this in MyLo?

[Not_Mafia]

Tomorrow

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I think it's Hopkirk, Sheep and Rem. In that order

[Not_Mafia]

I'm just gonna chill and see who sides with who

[Not_Mafia]

It's probably the closest I'll ever get to such a thing

[Not_Mafia]

I’m impatient

VOTE: Sheep

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We could always just lynch her

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I think it's Rem and Hop, but I agree, sort Hop v Flubb in 3p

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Flub being town or being scum?

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Yo

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VOTE: Rem

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Come on Sheepy poo

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Let's take Sheep to 3p for lulz

[Not_Mafia]

You're here until 3p buddy, better get talking

[Not_Mafia]

And yet here you are, scumposting

[Not_Mafia]

i take debate but i have no idea what the fuck im doing i get carried by my partners

Kinda like this game then

[Not_Mafia]

Just kidding Sheepy

[Not_Mafia]

to get a lot of money

Buy scratchcards

[Not_Mafia]

Vote Rem with us then

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I don't get the impression Sheep is really trying to scumhunt.

[Not_Mafia]

Just lynch the slot guys it's scum

[Not_Mafia]

Kat, Hem. Join us

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What's the possible scum team without REM?

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I want this Rem replacement sorry. I'm thinking N_M might be scum.

I aint

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VOTE: Sheep

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Rem

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It's probably shotty

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What's a TIL?

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Lynch it, lynch it with fire

[Not_Mafia]

Dear God guys

I've been in the replacement queue since page 1

I know what's up

I'm reforming this town after dinner

lolooolololololololololololololololololololololol

[Not_Mafia]

And yes I know that random guess scumteam is pretty fucking wrong but it was a daystart guess cuz NSG was curious

So fake

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I thought it was Hopkirk when day started but I've thought it was flubb since sheep scumclaim

I have sheep and not mafia meta that only works when I'm not in the game because they adapt their meta to my presence
So I need to do that

Sheep is claimed scum, no one cares

[Not_Mafia]

You know when you're about to leave a party and then you don't, then you get trapped in an incredibly long-winded and pointless conversation with another guest and spend the whole time wishing you'd just left when you had the chance. This is that moment.

[Not_Mafia]

Sheep meta will indicate partners

You're keeping him alive for that purpose lol

We're keeping sheep alive for shiggles

[Not_Mafia]

tbh N_M you look like panic scum right now

Panicing about what?

[Not_Mafia]

You know when you're about to leave a party and then you don't, then you get trapped in an incredibly long-winded and pointless conversation with another guest and spend the whole time wishing you'd just left when you had the chance. This is that moment.

Some of us like gamesolving in nontoxic gamestates

I’ve needed this D2 and I’m going to listen with eager ears

Don’t post unless you have something useful to say

Ty

I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be Cassandra on this one but okay I'll let you do your thing

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I am sold on u being scum.
This isn’t how u would interact with me as Town I don’t think.

I had the exact same thought

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Town Mathdino doesn't pass up the opportunity for a good old fashioned pissing contest

[Not_Mafia]

cult of personality

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Not Mafia one of you is scum

I get in pissing contests with people who I think are on my team

Do you get more pissed at a goalkeep fucking up if they're on your team or the other

I forgive people for their transgressions

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Town Mathdino doesn't pass up the opportunity for a good old fashioned pissing contest

Considering you instigated him as your own scum partner I’m going to go ahead and call this bullshit meta lol

Genius play btw

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Sheep/Rem/Hop

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I am a cult of personality apparently

Pretty sure he missed an n in there

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I can't do it guys, I can't make serious posts only

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Don't use your phone at the dinner table it's rude

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Also HEM you should absolutely not be reading me off my pregame guesses

I made those reads to NSG off gut and some shit people were saying through today

I remember scumreading Hopkirk d1 d2 but I wasn't analyzing it at all

The point is that pregame reads are intelligence indicative, not alignment indicative

I've been awake for 37 hours, I was on a second wind and couldn't sleep but this post was so bad it legit just sent me to sleep, goodnight guys

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Because I didn't have a role pm yet

Like had my slot not replaced out I'd be scumreading it

The lurkout and lack of anyone screaming for a replacement made me go

Oh fucking shit that slot is town and it's gonna be me isn't it
Fakkk

Sooooooo fake omg

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Nighty night, don't let the scumbugs bite

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you should absolutely not be reading me off my pregame guesses

The point is that pregame reads are intelligence indicative, not alignment indicative

No one gives a fuck about your pre-game reads

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Legit goodnight

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VOTE: Sheep

Fine let's be boring

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Maaaaaaaaaaybe, but Sheep is the lynch today so

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I really REALLY want to lynch Mathdino but I'm going to do the "right thing"

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My fingers are twitching

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Okay no fuck this

VOTE: Mathdino

[Not_Mafia]

Excuses excuses

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Excuses excuses

This was @Dino

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You know when you're about to leave a party and then you don't, then you get trapped in an incredibly long-winded and pointless conversation with another guest and spend the whole time wishing you'd just left when you had the chance. This is that moment.

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VOTE: Sheep

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VOTE: Math

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Not moving now since I don't see Fire getting lynched so if it is Sheep/Fire/Hop/Flub, someone please hammer so we don't have to read more Math posts

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Sheep,Fire,Hop/Flub*

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Looool

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VOTE: Sheep

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Hey Dino vote the claimed scum with me

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Sheep is literally claimed scum, there is no Hopkirk/Fire/Me possibility

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I see no reason to townread Math other than sheer volume of words

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I don’t see any of the arguments as compelling or interesting at all, just dilettante word vomit. The only time you’ve done anything with any conviction was when you accused Fire of talking about ongoing games, this isn’t town Mathdino the LyLo saviour swooping in to save the helpless visigoths in the town, it’s scum Math chatting shit.

Also there are no conf towns, not even Kat and HEM, but Flubber certainly isn’t

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Sheep, Fire, Hop/Flubb are still possible, I’m voting Sheep on the off chance it is and that HEM can get a night action off

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My vote isn’t moving, so you can carry on this unrequited 1v1 or you can just vote the claimed scum

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Lol

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Yeah so it’s Sheep/Dino/Hop confirmed now

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It’s taking all my impulse control not to vote Math

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Well it’s lucky I explained it then

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sheep, why didn't you ever get to sorting Hopkirk in particular?

Why are you asking claimed scum about their reads?

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No. I'm irritated

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Math

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All of it

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It isn't

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Why do you think I'm scum/might be scum/could be scum or wherever your read is at?

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Stop asking me shit you already know the answer to

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Rem slot is scum so

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I think Sheep is a valuable scum PR btw, scum's clearly wants one of the 1v1s forced through today

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I'd still lynch them

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Your mum is a shitstorm

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N_M why are you not talking to me anymore?

What do you want to talk about?

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PoE

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lel

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Not_Mafia (3): Mathdino, Hopkirk, sheepsaysmeep

How adorable is this scum team

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tfw have more votes than claimed scum

[Not_Mafia]

Sheep, Fire, Hop/Flub Zzzzzz

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That's why you're scum

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Not much, not much, how about yourself?

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Is it interesting?

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I was once 12

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Somebody once told me

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gonna what?

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gonna what?

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So I'm not sure what I expected katy but I guess I expected more than this?

I'm shooting in the dark as to why you think this forces N_M-town but I'll just go through this first and then see if you've actually made the argument in your ISO.

Fire claims innocent on Not_Mafia. N_M-scum knows Fire is full of shit as usual. Obviously N_M-scum can't just be like SURPRISE BITCH I REALLY AM SCUM YOU LIAR.

@mod How would a Universal Back-Up resolve if two PRs died in the same night?

So he asks the question that potentially exposes Fire as lying regardless of N_M's alignment

And I'm town regardless of Fire's alignment

preps himself for the "DAE FIRE AND N_M SCUM?!?!" argument

First time ever that a mod has called me out on a gambit.

lulz, why didn't you ask?

VOTE: Firebringer

Pounces on him for the lie

Lol I am actually Town

UNVOTE:

Why gambit like this in MyLo?

And then backs off for no reason?

Forcing this 1v1 early is bad for N_M cuz he can frame it as Rem being scum instead. But he's clearly setting up Fire to have low cred going in.

I'm benefited by having seen N_M extremely believably fake reactions to things. That said, I think as town he'd just accept Firebringer's inno, because like Fire said somewhere, "Why fake an inno instead of a guilty?" Instead N_M set up Firebringer to get discredited, implying he knew Fire was full of shit from the onset.

standard confbias disclaimer here
now ISOing you for why you buy into this

Woeful post

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And I'm town regardless of Fire's alignment

preps himself for the "DAE FIRE AND N_M SCUM?!?!" argument

Nope. Was in response to this

i think this is a question the mod can and should answer. if moz died first, then we're on easy street because fire and n_m is scum.

First time ever that a mod has called me out on a gambit.

lulz, why didn't you ask?

VOTE: Firebringer

Pounces on him for the lie

Lol I am actually Town

UNVOTE:

Why gambit like this in MyLo?

And then backs off for no reason?

You're calling Firebringer town and also telling me I shouldn't have backed off of him, you can't have your cake and eat it too

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you can't have your cake and eat it too

:'( no fuck you

You can, Math can't

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I mean this is an okay argument as to Fire/N_M not scum together but this also implies that they would ever plan anything, which is a faulty assumption

I trolled you as a teammate and plotted out the whole game, you know I have the ability to anticipate reactions and plan a scum gambit accordingly, so does Fire

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I mean this is an okay argument as to Fire/N_M not scum together but this also implies that they would ever plan anything, which is a faulty assumption

I trolled you as a teammate and plotted out the whole game, you know I have the ability to anticipate reactions and plan a scum gambit accordingly, so does Fire

tfw literally making an argument that N_M/Fire could be scum together

Yup, we could be and you know it, so you're full of shit

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Mathdino did scumclaim yes, several other times too

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Perfect example is Hopkirk who suddenly became more enlightened than the Dalai Lama tripping balls on LSD once I started making real arguments for sheep/Hop/N_M.

Yes who has been calling the team sheep/Fire/Me and pushing

me

as the lynch, he's made no attempt to get Fire, his theoretical mislynch in your scenario, lynched

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You're literally arguing "town-Mathdino wouldn't rule out me/Fire as a scumteam" which is...

I'm arguing that you thinking that Fire and I couldn't pull a scum theatre gambit is transparently bullshit

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pedit: no really like............. what would town!dino have done here n_m in your opinion

Lynch scum, not me, not refuse to vote conf scum when we still have 8 players and what? 4 or 5 players unclaimed?

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Okay cool, lynch me because Math makes long posts with words in them, his arguments are crap and his commentary on me and what he thinks I'd do is transparently bogus. Just do me a favour and lynch the confirmed scum first

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what reason do scum have to waffle

obviously here n_m!scum would be trying to look town in the first place by unvoting so i guess it's kind of a dumb question but i dont think saying "scum would stick to their guns" is an unreasonable assumption, theyre the ones who come into the game with a planned agenda in mind

Scum can't plan shit. Look at the timestamps on that interaction; it was all within a span of minutes. Turbospeed.

I'm arguing that N_M knew Fire was town already and was setting him up to fall.

But then he realised Fire wouldn't go down so easily and 1v1ing Fire would have the strong potential to just confirm N_M as scum down the line.

None of it was planned because he didn't plan for Fire's fakeclaim.

Math is now moving the goalposts to distract from his bullshit argument. No one is saying we did plan it, just that your argument that we couldn't was manure

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Lynch scum, not me, not refuse to vote conf scum when we still have 8 players and what? 4 or 5 players unclaimed?

who does town!dino read as the scumteam here, especially if he doesnt suspect you (how would you know this anyway)

There's really no situation where his slot is town so this argument is largely moot but I guess Sheep/Fire/Hop

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monkey am i being too easily swayed? where am i going wrong?

Renaming myself monkey temporarily.

Yes, seriously go over Math's posts with a fresh mind, there's nothing there, it's all style no substance

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I'm gonna piss myself if Math is actually town, both out of hilarity and frustration

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yeah if you have to argue fire is scum then there's just no point in saying he scumclaimed because he has to call you as scum as scum and town alike, there's no way for me to tell the difference objectively without reads etc

and fire i think your opinion here is biased, it could be right but I want to hear from monkey

pedit: not mafia you're missing the point lmfao

What is the point?

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tbh hem can we really just lynch other scum first
only difference is it looks better on my wiki

Tell us who they are and we will

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n_m what games have you played with UCV before this game?

I'll get to this later, going to bed in a moment

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Town Dino doesn't attempt to justify his play to me, he just laughs at me and talks about policy lynches

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And we're in the threats stage now, good to know

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pedit: why does town dino need to justify his play to you if you're confscum to each other

Good question