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Post Post #137 (isolation #0) » Tue May 12, 2020 7:54 am

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I checked the other partition game from 2011 to see how it played out. Scum were spread out one was in group 1, one was in group 2, and another was in group 3. On the vote count there was a message on day 1 saying groups have changed and vote count got reset. A scum player got switched to another group and the group that got lynched on day 1 were all town. I wonder if the same thing is going to happen here. Lynching in group 1 does look risky if they are all town plus add the group change on day 1 if that happens. My guess is one scum will be in group 1, one in group 2, and another in group 3.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #1) » Tue May 12, 2020 9:16 am

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In post 141, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 137, Adorable wrote:On the vote count there was a message on day 1 saying groups have changed and vote count got reset. A scum player got switched to another group and the group that got lynched on day 1 were all town.
I wonder if the same thing is going to happen here.
This isn't the exact same setup. there aren't any roles in this game
On the bolded part is it safe to assume there won't be a group change on day 1 since the setup is different?
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Post Post #147 (isolation #2) » Tue May 12, 2020 9:30 am

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In post 146, Morning Tweet wrote:
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that game had PR craziness. Roles that could swap groups and stuff like that.

This game there are no power roles. so the groups are static this time, no chance of them changing
Thanks for clearing that up. I only checked the mod iso to see what the flips looked like.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #3) » Tue May 12, 2020 9:32 am

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In post 144, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 135, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:Morning Tweet needs to start scumhunting.
Spoiler: your wish is my command
Cat () - Leaning towards this being a genuine reaction to not realizing the setup, which makes me inclined to think it's towny

D&D () - Could see this question being faked or being real
Cat () - I agree with this assessment
Cat () - Leaning towards Cat really just realizing this as opposed to faking just realizing it. would expect scum to wait longer perhaps, unsure

Hoctac () - Oh god
D&D () - voting group one as a snap reaction to me only saying hello to one half. Or something like that. either way i can't get a read on d&d.
Ame () - This is a good point that i missed earlier. I agree wholeheartedly, i think scum set it up this way with the intent of getting maximum expected value

Kanna () - I am starting to become suspicious of players who want to nuke group one. However, my initial reaction to the setup was also wanting to nuke group one, so there's a grace period on this
Kanna () - i do tend to agree with this though. Actually this is pretty similar to my reaction. I am pretty sure it's 2 scum + i too did not realize the MYLO 2 scum bit

Ame () - Good post by Ame. way ahead of me on realizing we can't really figure out how scum distributed themselves without actually finding scum first. I read a game where Ame tricked a town into sending her up to heaven, though. Scary scum player
Enomis () - Wanting to nuke group one initially cause there's probably 2 scum in there
Enomis () - And then realizing that even if we get 2 scum, we get sent to MYLO. similar progression to Kanna and myself once again where we initially want to kill group one but then realizes better
Dsjstr () - This is a pretty surface-level assessment. We should lynch group one because there are more people, which means there's more mafia? That also means there's more town in there, dude. Also i disagree with the 1/1/1 assessment
Dsjstr () - Ds still seems to think 0 mafia in group one is an option. It really isnt. They don't care if one of their members dies if it means winning
Kanna () - I disagree that all 3 scum would go down together if they hate playing scum. I think they'd be more likely to 1/1/1 if they hate playing scum. that way they can win quickest or at least die quickly if they fail. 3/0/0 ensures a longer scum game and a very stressful D2 probably
Mohab () - I disagree, i think talking about the partitions is useful, especially in the first few pages.
Mohab () - Okay mohab realizes we dont have anything else to discuss and talks about partitions anyway
Mohab (58) - Mohab has a realization that lynching group 1 is even more risky because scum has a nightkill. Suggests we use it to our advantage on D2 rather than hit group 1

Mohab () - Votes for his own group of 3 ! I think Mohab found ds scummy and is now voting for group 3, his own group, because of it. Strong town pings

Ame () - I agree, that post by Kanna is a pretty big niche situation to defend the possibility of 3/0/0

Enomis () - Eh this is kind of a pointless question
Enomis () - Theorycrafting that gets more or less disproven by Ame a bit later. Town indicative? Scum knows a lot more about this than we do, im inclined to believe this theory was genuine

Ame () - I do slightly wonder if Ame knows more about the setup and can disprove faulty reasoning easier than town. I actually don't think this is likely in this case though, what she says here isn't something only scum could figure out
Albert () - I agree. Could be a faked reaction or a real one though.
Albert () - Albert sounds really confident scum would put all 3 in group one and then sweep the game from there. i have no idea if this is because he is scum muddying the waters or if that's what he felt
Raya () - Raya doesn't really say anything in this post. someone points this out later. I do agree with Raya's points, but that's because a lot of them are my points
Albert () - Albert really thinks scum should have chosen to put all 3 in group one. Hm.
Raya () - Raya is more than happy to lynch her own group if it were decided there was 2+ scum in it. Doesn't give me the town vibes like Mohab did. Mohab is taking a risk, raya is more like a "Yeah i'd do that too", but Raya is in way less risk of it actually happening
Hoctac () - Well yes. But still. let me have my partition speculation fun :'c
Enomis () - "i want to be here on day 2" lol what? Lean town cause i find it hard to believe scum says that

Hoctac () - I disagree, Enomis and Mohab haven't been sus. But i can see why someone would find them suspicious. Ds sure.
Cat () - Cat leans town on Mohab!! yes !!!

Hoctac () - Suggesting we lynch group one if there's enough scummy players in there, although he presently thinks there's scummy players in group three. You're worrying me hoctoc
Enomis () - Enomis is not self aware of how he kinda seems like lynchbait. To clarify: He does kinda seem like lynchbait. but he's town i think

Hoctac () - I can see the reasoning here: Mohab goes back on what they said immediately about the partitions, sure. But i dont think Mohab is scum, and certainly not from this
Dsjstr () - Ds cannot see why mafia would go for a 1/1/1 setup. Hard disagree
Cat () - yeah cat u tell him

Albert () - Albert is pushing really hard for a group one suspicion. it worries me but still i dont think its necessarily scummy
Albert () - i am scARED
Ame () - I agree
Ame () - I agree again

D&D () - Disagree on the point about the setup talk. i think the sentiment is towny though. Don't like the enomis read. Do like the Raya read

Adorbs () - Interesting she came to the conclusion it's likely 1/1/1, and therefore dissuades us from voting group one. I wonder if it's 2/0/1 and adorbs wants us to think there's only 1 in group one so day 2 is easier. I'm biased though cause i admit i read cat saying she doesn't like Adorbs' entrance
Albert () - Disagree, there could be 1 scum in group 2

no, i dont expect anyone to read that. i just worked thru the thread in this post rather than in my notes cause idk

You know, im sure somebody probably brought this up already, but if we figure out that there's 2 scum in group one, maybe we could wait for the next day and then target group one players. I guess scum could screw us with the partitions again though.

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GROUP 1:
Adorable

Ame

Cat Scratch Fever

Daenerys and Dragons
Hoctac
Kanna
Morning Tweet

Raya36
GROUP 2:
Albert B. Rampage
clidd
GROUP 3:
dsjstr
enomis

Mohab500
I'll note this down if group 1 doesn't get lynched on day 1, then I can expect maybe Morning Tweet is scum in my group who plans on keeping me alive for day 2 who will put me in another group opposite of hers.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #4) » Tue May 12, 2020 7:07 pm

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I start to wonder why did mafia put 8 players in group 1, 2 players in group 2, and 3 players in group 3. It takes 7 to hammer and there's no way group 1 will get hammered by the other groups for not having enough players. Mafia want to avoid getting lynched which will be more likely there is definitely scum in group 1.

VOTE: Group 1
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Post Post #350 (isolation #5) » Wed May 13, 2020 5:02 am

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I'm always a null read or I would be a scum lean since I'm not an active member. I get the feeling scum looked up my completed games and they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched. I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.
In post 142, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I don't like Adorable's entrance either
This post looks like shade throwing and you didn't elaborate on why you didn't like my entrance and this is the kind of post I normally scum read when I don't see a player elaborate.

I think 2 scum are in Group 1 and that's why I'm voting there.
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Post Post #357 (isolation #6) » Wed May 13, 2020 5:19 am

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In post 354, Hoctac wrote:
In post 350, Adorable wrote:I'm always a null read or I would be a scum lean since I'm not an active member. I get the feeling scum looked up my completed games and they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched. I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.
In post 142, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I don't like Adorable's entrance either
This post looks like shade throwing and you didn't elaborate on why you didn't like my entrance and this is the kind of post I normally scum read when I don't see a player elaborate.

I think 2 scum are in Group 1 and that's why I'm voting there.
Puff, why do you think scum would include you with them in group 1 if you think they've researched you and seen you as a null/scumlean most of the time, rather than put you in group 2/3, so that those could get lynched more easily today?
The players in Group 3 are scummy and I was also going to vote there yesterday and then I started to think scum must have looked up the players completed games which makes me think the players on Group 3 get scum read more often than me.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #7) » Wed May 13, 2020 5:28 am

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In post 355, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 350, Adorable wrote:I'm always a null read or I would be a scum lean since I'm not an active member. I get the feeling scum looked up my completed games and they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched. I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.
In post 142, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I don't like Adorable's entrance either
This post looks like shade throwing and you didn't elaborate on why you didn't like my entrance and this is the kind of post I normally scum read when I don't see a player elaborate.

I think 2 scum are in Group 1 and that's why I'm voting there.
I don’t think you’re that hard to read nor do I think you’re lynchbait simply be being less active

Your entrance pinged me because all you did was ask some questions about the setup and offered no other content. What little analysis you offered in your first posts didn’t make sense - you conjectured there would be 1 scum in each group based on the previous run of this game, but the partitions in the previous game were completely different. I don’t believe you would come up with such bad analysis as town.

Who are the two scum?
You also admitted you think there are 2 scum in Group 1 but you don't want to vote there. The two scum in Group 1 look like to me they are the ones who want to vote in Group 2 or Group 3. You are a player I have been leaning scum on. So you think I'm scum who wants to vote myself off on day 1? What kind of logic is this?
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Post Post #481 (isolation #8) » Wed May 13, 2020 3:25 pm

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In post 365, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 358, Adorable wrote:You also admitted you think there are 2 scum in Group 1 but you don't want to vote there. The two scum in Group 1 look like to me they are the ones who want to vote in Group 2 or Group 3. You are a player I have been leaning scum on. So you think I'm scum who wants to vote myself off on day 1? What kind of logic is this?
I don't have two active scumreads on people in group 1. I think it's rash to vote there without having at least two strong scumreads in group 1 on the offchance scum did actually only put 1 scum in that group.

I'm entertaining the idea that scum put scum!you and only you into group 1, and that's why you want to vote yourself. Who is your other scumread?

Why are you still leaning scum on me? Do you disagree with my analysis on your entrance posts?
If you think it is 1/1/1 and think I'm the only scum in Group 1, then this would mean my scum buddies who put only me in Group 1 would expect me to do some power wolfing taking control of the game thread and my scum buddies would have high expectations of me being really good pretending to play as town.
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Post Post #492 (isolation #9) » Wed May 13, 2020 4:01 pm

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In post 488, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Adorable, you’ve also never responded to
I already responded to this on 357.
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Post Post #528 (isolation #10) » Wed May 13, 2020 5:16 pm

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In post 491, Hoctac wrote:
In post 360, Hoctac wrote:
In post 357, Adorable wrote:The players in Group 3 are scummy and I was also going to vote there yesterday and then I started to think scum must have looked up the players completed games which makes me think the players on Group 3 get scum read more often than me.
So why not put you in Group 2 if they really don't want Group 1 lynched?
Could you address this please, Puff?
I pretty much said this on #350. Two or three scum in Group 1 I think they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching on Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched.
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Post Post #530 (isolation #11) » Wed May 13, 2020 5:19 pm

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In post 487, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 481, Adorable wrote:If you think it is 1/1/1 and think I'm the only scum in Group 1, then this would mean my scum buddies who put only me in Group 1 would expect me to do some power wolfing taking control of the game
No? Scum would want to get group 1 lynched in that case, and you would be deliberately playing scummy. Why would you think the opposite...?

As it is, you’re pretty scummy. I’m not sure if you’re deliberately playing scummy though.
Majority of the players don't want to lynch in Group 1 and that would make me look really bad and scummy for saying this if this is 1/1/1. I'm not going to go for that weird angle on day 1 with me being the only scum in Group 1.
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Post Post #565 (isolation #12) » Wed May 13, 2020 7:18 pm

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In post 551, Hoctac wrote:VOTE: Group 1

gg

i was scum
In post 552, Hoctac wrote:UNVOTE: Group 1
You are crazy! Ame put us at L-1, you hammered and unvoting doesn't count.
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Post Post #569 (isolation #13) » Wed May 13, 2020 7:22 pm

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I wonder if the team really is Hoctac, Albert, and clidd.
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Post Post #587 (isolation #14) » Wed May 13, 2020 7:53 pm

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In post 585, Hoctac wrote:I forgive you, Ame.

Puff, what's your assessment of the current situation? Did we lose or are we all good?
I counted just now to see how many players voted Group 1 and 6 players voted Group 1. You unvoted and Group 1 now has 5 votes.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #15) » Thu May 14, 2020 9:35 am

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In post 374, Mohab500 wrote:
In post 350, Adorable wrote:I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.
This feels like scum acting like they're scumhunting tbh, this statement adds little to nothing here: we know scum is trying to act like townt so can you please tell us something more discreet? What do you mean by trying too hard to be towny? And was that last part a jab against Group 1 or are you actually defending Group 1?
In post 427, Mohab500 wrote:
In post 238, dsjstr wrote:Part of that has to do with the slip I saw,
In post 13, Morning Tweet wrote:First impressions: i feel that it is unlikely scum placed 2 of themselves in group 2, or 2 of themselves in group 3

That seems like a lot of risk, because at a glance you'd expect us to probably pick group 2 or 3 for the lynch, and it'd be hard to stop it if one of those groups gained traction. all it would take is one scummy member in the group and you'd lose that group and 2/3rds of the scumteam

Whereas if you placed 2+ scum inside group one, it'd likely be easier to steer the lynch away from one to one of the smaller groups.
after all, there's at least 5 town in group one and im sure at least some of them would not want to die


I just realized while writing this that if we lynch group one, and there's zero scum in there, we lose the game immediately. ack!
I just noticed that MT referred to the town as "them" when saying that there are at least 5 town in group 1 and they should not vote for their own group. This seems weird to me and looks like MT could have slipped. If they are town then they

would have included them self as part of the town. Instead he talks about town being other people, now what does this have to do with group 3? If you look at MT's first read list you will notice that Mohab is the only strong town read. I personally

don't see the reasoning to be strong Mohab could have just faked that he wanted to lynch his own group and then he actually does change his vote. MT continues to town read him as they both switch over to group 2 which had gained some traction.

Just realized that group 2 is also at L-3, but basically I am scum reading Mahob because I scum read MT but that's just one person from group 1 so it would be better to go for group 3.
I don't get this post at all, you make several paragraphs about how some guy referred to a hypothetical group with 'them' instead of 'us'. The rest of your posts give me a similar vibe, too: seems like you're writing for the sake of writing, and reading for the sake of reading, not actually trying to do anything useful or help us find scum at all. I am starting to get an Albert + dsj scum feel.
If two scum are in Group 1, I think Mohab is the last scum. These two posts above look like scum throwing shade and this doesn't look like something a towny would say.
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Post Post #713 (isolation #16) » Thu May 14, 2020 2:45 pm

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Mobab and Hoctic throwing shade at me. I knew the scum were going to throw shade at me in this game.
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Post Post #715 (isolation #17) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:10 pm

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Looks like OMGUS was the best way for me to catch scum since the scum were throwing shade at me lol.
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