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VOTE: George Bailey

Don't like wagoning for the sake of wagoning.

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How is it classic?

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And how is one vote a wagon?

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It wasn't literal. It's page 1. You are awful tightly wound though.

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I pretty much always post small questions. I dislike long wall posts in general.

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I pretty much always post small questions. I dislike long wall posts in general.

how do you feel about gifs?

GIF's are awesome.

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If I had to guess I'd say scum. But everything town usually guesses day 1 is more often opposite the truth than not.

Why do you think he's town?

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Well, until a NPOW becomes more popular than a George wagon that's unlikely, so don't hold your breath.

Either way, discouraging lurking and encouraging early discussion can only be good for town imho.

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you snooze you don't get the worm.

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Wow the two votes on me have a whole 9 words of "reasoning".

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I'm not upset. Just making a point. I'm sure better wagonswill become obvious

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I'm not crumbling at all.

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Nice way to misrep me though.

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Call it what you want. I'm just pointing out the flaws in the votes.

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We're past the RVS, in case you didn't notice.

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GB has three votes on him.

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You can thank me later.

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GB has three votes on him.

yeah congratulations on starting a wagon on a player who townslipped

What's the townslip?

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i think GB is town, how about you?

ok i'll just leave my vote on you till you come to your senses then

Do you know something about GB that I don't or is this just a guess?

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More from the newbie please.

What do you really think so far?

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i think GB is town, how about you?

ok i'll just leave my vote on you till you come to your senses then

Do you know something about GB that I don't or is this just a guess?

Ah, fair enough. I find scum always asks small pedantic questions to seem townie.

So it just pinged me as such.

this post was made from a town perspective, and isn't easily faked
it reads very authentic and i'm concluding GB is likely town with an offchance this is actually faked (but unlikely)

You're concluding GB is likely town on page 1?

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NPOW do we know each other?

From a quick scan of your games since May, no.

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ico, are you tmi-ing george town hmmm?

he townslipped

There's a difference between townslipping and you thinking his "perspective is town." Why not call a duck a duck?

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jinx!

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Except that the statements not true. I was merely making casusal conversation, not an accusation. He's the one that got defensive, not me.

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I was just trying to get a read on him, not latch on to him.

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That he didn't want to respond to my questions. He could have humored me?

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Correct.

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I feel like town should want to engage with other players and town hunt. Choosing not to engage is anti-town.

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Not necessarily that question, but it might have lead to another AI question.

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Sorry, but I don't believe in RVS. At least as much as I can try to avoid it.

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Not necessarily. But you have to go by something this early in the game don't you?

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Don't overcommit there Iconeum.

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A) i don't think inoc is scum. She's just trying to read me.

B) I'm not inexperienced. I have played as another alt.

C) my playstyle tends to attract attention. I try to use that to my teams advantage on both sides, but me being mislynched as town is not uncommon.

D) I'm considering switching my vote from GB but he's not making it easy by not posting.

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Vp is Billy scummy.

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My alt was YellowSnow. i get mislynched because i get involved day 1 and people are overeager to think their first impressions are correct. sometimes i say things to get reads and people mistake them as actual accusations.

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Yeah when i phone post i used to altslip. Stupid phone.

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Actually it is was more me responding to inocs intensity than being testy i think. It is aggravating that people think that pointing out naked votes is being testy but that's here nor there.

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I still don't see where i was overtly hostile.

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I could tell that skipping rvs was going to annoy inoc, which is exactly why i did it. I read players better when they are on tilt.

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Actually it is was more me responding to inocs intensity than being testy i think. It is aggravating that people think that pointing out naked votes is being testy but that's here nor there.

I mean you've done rvs before, do you expect votes to be anything but naked in the forst couple of posts?

Not really and it didn't annoy me like people think it did. People crying foul over me pointing it out did mildly annoy me.

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What does 1273 mean

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I am leaning towards voting Inoc. My initial gut is that she was trying to get a read on me but the argument has been made that the townslip argument was off which is something that I agree with somewhat. None of the other players that have posted recently strike me as scummy. I would like to hear more from Inoc and GB though.

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Sorry, but I don't believe in RVS. At least as much as I can try to avoid it.

Why?

I just don't see the purpose. Why not just go straight to scumhunting/townhunting?

D) I'm considering switching my vote from GB but he's not making it easy by not posting.

I am leaning towards voting Inoc.

This actually does bug me. Like why are you saying "look out guys, might switch my vote here!"

Why not just vote?

I don't like to wagonhop.

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Yeah I have a few leans but the only decent one is VPB Town

go and reread VPB in ISO

he is bringing up a couple reasons for why I am scum, and if you then go read my ISO, you will see i'm doing none of those things and in fact I'd say i'm doing the opposite of what he's saying is scum.

So his conclusion that i'm scum is either terrible or faked

So you're OMGUSing then.

VOTE: Iconeum

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how's it an omgus?

go read what it is he is scumreading me on, and then apply it to what i'm actually doing and tell me how i'm doing what he says i'm doing

Because he said why he thought what you did was scummy, and you are complaining about being attacked.

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OMGUSing is a scumtrait. If it wasn't people would just continuously attack those attacking them.

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In your opinion.

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I think you're doing to much talking and not enough listening, Iconeum. Maybe you need to consider others opinions a bit more.

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I think you're doing to much talking and not enough listening, Iconeum. Maybe you need to consider others opinions a bit more.

that's fair enough

would you like to go over what i think are wrong accusations aimed at me?

it's the reason why i'm so aggitated right now (i get like that when i feel wrongfully accused of stuff)

Not at the moment, I have stuff I need to do.

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@nopoweroverme, talk to me about baltar and andres? where's your head at on those 2 slots.

I'm null on VP. I appreciate that he can see that wanting to scumhunt isn't a scumtrait, and that prodding players for reads is a form of scumhunting, but then he seems to do a 180 because he thinks I shouldn't want to tell other players where I stand on my intentions to vote. There's a difference between thinking about voting and actually wanting to vote, and there's nothing wrong with communicating that.

the way he made that post was from an Obvious townie perspective and it's still weird that NPOW scumread GB despite that post

Not obvious town perspective to me. Especially not from the first post of the game. A lot more troublesome was your overreaction to my prodding him than anything that I or GB did, in my opinion. If you're town you shouldn't have any concrete information on his alignment, but it looks like you did based on your reaction.

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I see Andres as town it looks like we are coming from a similar mental place as far as reads.

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Players I am leaning town on so far are: Datsi, Andres, Snowblaze, Hellbrooks
Players I am leaning scum on so far are: Iconeum
The rest are null.

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Ico is being way to much of a literalist and not looking at intent and subtelty. This doesn't seem townish to me.

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Which part doesn't make sense? you've claimed a lot of things don't make sense which actually do, so I'm not putting to much stock into that.

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Datsi

can you talk about this read a bit more?

You seem willing to communicate and are trying to figure people out, rather than acting like you already know.

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1) I'm assuming he's guessing that you are smart enough to sense mislynch bait and you think I am it, and that eliminating me would lead to a similar result as the last time I was day 1 eliminated for little or no reason. He's not wrong, as you are holding on to your assumptions way to strenuously.

2) I think you're being a literalist here again. Obviously different players play town and scum differently. You should ask him about his scum reads, not me.

3) I think a lot of people think that you started defending GB too quickly. All I did was ask a few ice breaker questions and you decided I was trying to eliminate him.

In general, you are holding on to your opinions to tightly even in the face of opposition, and even when there is good/logical reasoning against them. Just because you say something loudly doesn't make it true. And either you are scum who is trying to hard to get town lynched or you are just communicating badly.

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I see your point. You'd have to ask him to elaborate i can't speak for him.

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You only like people that are townreading you?

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Ino obviously doesn't like pressure.

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I see some are scumreading baltar and i can see where they are coming from. Inoc still bothers me but it could be SPP.

VOTE: VP Baltar

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I meant sfp i am spelling challenged.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fu ... g_prophecy

More on vpb later

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Nope.

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It's 4am here.

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Well that explains it.

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Billy and you at least.

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I totally missed the snowblaze wagon. I might look into that too.

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Iconeum bases her reads based almost entirely on how people react to her alone.

She doesn't seem to have the capability to step outside of her shoes and put herself into someone else's situation.

She tends to hyperfocus on someone when she thinks she is being wronged.

This is my psychoanalysis anyways. She has acted scummy, but the more I think about her interactions the more she seems town.

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It's okay I love you weather you're a girl or a guy as long as you're town.

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If Icon vs. VP is 1v1 I have to choose Icon at this point. It could be TvT though.

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Ok fair point.

Need to read the thread some more.

unvote

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VOTE: dkkoba

Gonna sheep cause Datisi is the most townie player in the game and I trust him.

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Wow you're giving up already?

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Anyone who self votes does not deserve to be playing and will be a hinderance to town later on.

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Does someoine who self votes seem like town or someone who wants to hellp town win?

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Except her reads suck.

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Then you should work with town to do that, not against them.

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I'm don't want someone in lylo who is going to try to manipulate me into getting what they want.

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Well maybe you should reevaluate your playstle then.

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You're more like Iconecum than you think anyone who thinks you're town is obviously town.

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How old are you DK?

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Why does everyone I initially suspect end up looking town?

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Unvote

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Ico is not the lynch for today. Let's not waste our time.

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@Datisi who is the wolf on Ico? Let's wagon!

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Sometimes you get information through banter and pressure.

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VOTE: andres

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I disagree with his Iconemum push and I disagree with his rant about MS meta.

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I just don't see the town purpose of pushing you at all. As for MS Meta, It's like signing up for a soccer game and complaining about the low scoring games. There's just not going to be anything good that comes out of it.

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I think like most younger people DKK is a little self centered. She wanted to make a loud entrance for some reason and then realized it wasn't being taken well and had the good sense to back off a little. I have her as town at the moment but I want to see more reads from her.

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I've seen players say they don't D1 scumhunt and end up town. It's not AI. Some of your other points are valid.

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Mini Normal 2143
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83102

What I'm trying to say is that me not scumhunting is NAI.
(And even then people have told me that townhunting is still scumhunting, which i disagree with, but whatever)

Sakura Hana

Vanilla Townie

- Killed Night 3

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I think you are overgeneralizing. Players that are good at playing scum should be good at appearing to scumhunt. It just depends on your skill level. My point is that you can't say player X is definately scum because they said "D1 scumhunting is hard."

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@snowblaze: How do you rate yourself as a scum player and a townplayer?

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DKK how about your opinion on the matter at hand?

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This wagon has 1 scum read(VP), 1 null read(GB) and two twon reads(Datisi and Inoceum, but Incoem's vote is based on it's other townreads and not it's specifiically) This looks like a policy wagon to me. If I saw VP and GB as town I might join, but I don't, so I'm not going to.

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@Snow, who is scum then?

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NPOW... you were nullreading VP when he was pushing me, at a time when you were scumreading me. You were townreading datisi when she was townreading me, but you still scumread me.

Now when VP and I are somewhat more alligned, you scumread him and townread me?

And when all these players start alligning votes on somehow whom obviously hasn't done a lot to make itself widely townread, you instantly defend it?

I'm townreading you less now due to your willingness to wagon your townreads. I'm not instantly defending it. I've actually interacted with snow. This reminds me of a previous game where town ganged up on a easy mislynch and they ended up being town. D1 lynches are more often town than scum and this just looks like town to me.

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I'm townreading you less now due to your willingness to wagon your townreads. I'm not instantly defending it. I've actually interacted with snow. This reminds me of a previous game where town ganged up on a easy mislynch and they ended up being town. D1 lynches are more often town than scum and this just looks like town to me.

If blaze flips scum, here is her buddy. Mark your cards now bingo players!

Wow, talk about OMGUSing. Blaze is pretty far from being lynched. Why aren't you concerned about Ico's willingness to join a wagon on her townread?

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I take it that same logic applies to you if blaze flips town?

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What? You don't enjoy my posts?:(

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This seems more like a personality contest than an actual determination of guilt.

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I'll stay on the town aligned, bad personality side, tyvm.

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I'm not joking. I was in a game where this exact thing happened and the dude was town.

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Glad to hear. Want to wagon him?

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Appeal to emotion. OMGUSing. Being okay with town on town wagons. Scummy play in general.

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VOTE: VP Baltar

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Yes, saying someone will be lynched if they don't vote how you want is an AtE.

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Your vote is your power. Don't second guess yourself.

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OMGUS and AtE was where he threatened to lynch me if Snow was scum. Ico blatently said she thought Snow was town but was joining the wagon because her town reads were on the wagon. Baltar is guilty by not unvoting once ico said that.

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It's not about Ico so much. The wagon seems very opportunistic and with poor logic, and I really don't like that VP is on it.

Ico doesn't help but that reinforces my opinion that snow is town.

If the town really wants to go the way of a policy lynch I'm willing to consider it but it's not my first choice.

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The poor logic is that snow not hunting and being useless = scum.

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Elaborate?

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Proceed at your own risk, is all I'm saying. There are lots of better lynches. This is just the one that came up at this particular time. VP is still scummy.

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Why is a raven like a writing desk? Why do you park on a driveway and drive on a parkway? How did Kim Kardashian get so famous?

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This is one of the sketchiest wagons I've seen to date.

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also thinking atm that NPOM has higher scum equity if snowblaze is town actually

Way to try and townpaint yourself on a townlynch.

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VP and Hell are definately scummy. DKK is not looking good but could be bad town.

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Why would I hammer a town read?

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You want me to hammer someone without letting them even claim?

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I must have missed it. What did you claim?

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Yep, doesn't change that this is a scummy wagon.

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I can get on board with Testarossa.

VOTE: Testarossa

L2 I think?

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A) I don't think Andre said he townreads you, he just said you're the preferable wagon.

B) VP isn't on this wagon, so that's a plus.

Could you end up flipping town? Sure. I don't have a crystal ball. But I think you have a better chance of flipping scum than snow and I can't fight my townreads forever. There are some good points against you.

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VOTE: Testarossa. I took up Koba's offer to iso Testa and there's a lot of hedging language in there. Try doing a find-in-page highlight of the word "but" and you'll see it's all over the place.

I want to give this wagon some momentum and see where it goes.

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Still think the way to go is to eliminate in [Billy, Aldus, hellbooks, Snow] and [Baltar, Andres]. Some more, some less (like Snow, who is probably just town). It's absurd how difficult it is to get pressure on Billy or Aldus, but Snow skyrockets to E-1 in an instant.

I am leaning on Andres as scum over Baltar, the way he moves between wagons smells fishy. Take my symbolic alibi vote: VOTE: Andresvmb

Although NPOM can fall back into that scumpool, because I am less sure about him. But that will more or less depend on his D2 play I guess.

This is way to big of a scumpool. It looks like you are trying to scumpaint everyone rather than town hunt at all.

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Test wagon > Andres wagon

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test and janko would both be good wagons. The comment that I am lurking when I am one of the most active players is a joke. Also don't like his defence of baltar. I'm fine with the test wagon for now though.

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Datisi
Iconeum

Snowblaze
Billy Pilgrim
Alduskkel

GeorgeBailey
Andresvmb
DKKoba

jankofan
hellbrooks

Testaroosa
VP Baltar

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@Billy: You're aligning yourself with the wrong side.

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The scummy side.

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I keep weird hours sometimes don't always catch everything.

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DKK nust not have liked my read list.

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VOTE: Janko

Less confident that DKK knows what they are talking about.

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It's a binary game. There is town and scum. I tend not to fence sit.

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I don't like that VP just gave up on the snow wagon, and janko is town reading him for it.

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You have a right to disagree. 832 was 150 posts ago. I'm not always going to be awake and able to respond to you. I would have to reread that part of the day.

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I don't like that VP just gave up on the snow wagon, and janko is town reading him for it.

I gave up on the snow wagon?

Yep, when people started unvoting you had nothing to say on it. You were very anti-snow during the wagon, and now you seem ambivelent.

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I really don’t agree with 922 at all from you NPOM. And you never responded to my 832.

It seems like your basic beef with me is that my reads on people are changing as the game progresses, which is, you know, what generally happens with new content.

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npom could be scum. "missing" snows claim and asking her what it was instead of just scrolling back and finding it is giving me scum pings. seems to be "active lurking".

anyway i'm sheeping koba's list and would vote to hang in {testa, ico, npom}

Very weak reasoning and flat out untrue.

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Not noting VP because a lot of people seem to be TRing him for some reason. I initially liked the reasoning on Testarossa but liking DKK pushing it less since they OMGUSing my read list. I think Janko is more likely to flip than VP. I am willing to compromise on Testarossa but DKK is not giving me good vibes at the moment and DKK started the wagon.

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Datisi
Iconeum

Snowblaze
Billy Pilgrim
Alduskkel

GeorgeBailey
Andresvmb
DKKoba

jankofan
hellbrooks

Testaroosa
VP Baltar

lol im walking away and getting shit done bc this situation is just annoying rn bc no one wants to listen to the very blatant case.

idk whos the 3rd scum 100% but im fairly sure that ico/testa are 2/3 scum.

i'd say it's 50/50 in NPOM / Baltar for last

everyone else im fairly sure is town although the lack of content from GB is unfortunate but also not AI bc he even slanked once as town .

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Wow bad reasoining is the order of the day. Normally I have more in my townpool than I do in this game D1 by this point.

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Janko wagon>Test wagon

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Somehow I think DKK and Andres just don't like that they're not on the top of my tree.

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VP lead the snow wagon and for me that's the major D1 event so far.

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@Billy: You're aligning yourself with the wrong side.

Also, I think this sort of implicitly reflects a scum perspective. Like it implicitly assumes someone's trying to play with a team mentality. Something about this feels weird.

I am playing with a team mentality, the town team. I find VP extremely scummy. You're better off not townreading him.

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no i dont like that testa is at the bottom and ur allergic to keeping ur vote on them

It's called wagon analysis.

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Let me bow down to your superior mafia knowledge DKK.

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idiots unite.

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thank you for being reasonable.

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Also, I’m ready for a flip at this point. I want to see if DkKoba is all he’s cranking themselves up to be hahaha

Looking for a quick lynch is not townie in any game.

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Actually, scum like quick lynches. Town like longer days to get more information.

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Yeah, if the person leading said wagon makes no logical sense.

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And, as I said, I'm not bloodthirsty at this point, we still have 5 days.

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Not really, but being active with bad logic is just as bad.

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and u still havent actually addressed why u scumread testa and dont want to hang them. u are just dancing around it.

I already answered that. The wagon is questionable. And grows more questionable every time you post apparently.

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DKK's behavior wasn't an issue until after my vote. Joining a wagon doesn't preclude me from leaving it later on if I see something I don't like.

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Interesting that active lurking is okay for some and not others.

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DKK's behavior wasn't an issue until after my vote. Joining a wagon doesn't preclude me from leaving it later on if I see something I don't like.

yeah what don't u like?

You clearly lack basic reading comprehension.

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Why do you think that?

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The distinction is DKK's behavior is more anti-town with each post, and they started the test wagon.

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OMGUSing my tree.

being okay with quick lynching.

Constantly accusing people of not responding to you when they have.

Being okay with GB lurking.

Being more interesting in building towncred than gamesolving.

Need I go on?

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Nice that you want to respond with a snide comment rather than refute the charges against you.

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Mostly.

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The pendulum is swinging that direction, but I wouldn't say I townread them at this point. There can only be so many scum in the game.

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Wow you are quick on the uptake. Also I just literally said I don't townread them.

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Good luck with that. I think you overestimate your influence.

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What is stupid specifically.

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I give up. I'm done with you.

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THat was like 8 months ago. Get with it.

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I'm not reapeating myself.

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It's okay she'll back off once she realizes nobody cares which will probably be in about 5 pages.

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If no one is "scumreading" you then you're not doing your job. A DKK and VP push doesn't hurt me at all, as far as I'm concerned.

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Koba, are NPOM and Tess independently scummy?

No i am seeing associatives wrt npom pretending to push on testa and now backpedaling

This makes no sense. I backpeadled once you started being scummy and I specificallys said so.

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Why the constant need for attention?

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This isn't A Few Good Men. Like I said, I'm done with you.

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This isn't A Few Good Men. Like I said, I'm done with you.

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Is Test really that good of a wagon though? The wagons today in general have been more flimsy than not, in my opinion. Of course, that is generally true for day 1, but there is nothing wrong with calling a duck a duck and maybe something better will come along later in the day.

DKK kind of strikes me as a less mature version of Iconecum, to be honest. It's possible I overreacted to the initial OMGUS.

I need a good explanation of why Test>Janko.

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There's a lot of people in different time zones it appears.

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I said I might have overreacted, that's the opposite of "crying about it".

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If someone puts you towards the bottom of their scum tree, and then you call them scum for it. It's an OMGUS.

[NoPowerOverMe]

NoPowerOverMe
Datisi
Iconeum

Snowblaze
Billy Pilgrim
Alduskkel

GeorgeBailey
Andresvmb
DKKoba

jankofan
hellbrooks

Testaroosa
VP Baltar

lol im walking away and getting shit done bc this situation is just annoying rn bc no one wants to listen to the very blatant case.

idk whos the 3rd scum 100% but im fairly sure that ico/testa are 2/3 scum.

i'd say it's 50/50 in NPOM / Baltar for last

everyone else im fairly sure is town although the lack of content from GB is unfortunate but also not AI bc he even slanked once as town .

[NoPowerOverMe]

For stopping the test wagon?

[NoPowerOverMe]

snow wagon rather.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Have you ever directly mentioned my read list? Not that I recall.

[NoPowerOverMe]

That was after your omgus. At any rate, this is more of a miscommunication than anything. Given that you weren't actually on my bottom 3, and you didn't actually vote me calling it an omgus may have been a stretch. But it felt omgusy at the time.

As a gesture of goodwill:

VOTE: Testarossa

[NoPowerOverMe]

I didn't like DKKs behavior, I already said that. I'm over it now.

[NoPowerOverMe]

It wasn't a mismatch. I may not have explained it adequately but it made sense to me. Honestly I'm not really used to playing with players of DKK's volitility and it takes some getting used to. If I need to do what I need to do to sort someone, including changing my vote, then I'm not going to apologize for it if it gets us where we need to be in the end.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm pretty sure Andres is in the minority. Test and snow seem to be the lead wagons. I prefer test but I would compromise on snow.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Do females use the term bruh? I think you just revealed your gender.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Baltar, why don't you vote test?

[NoPowerOverMe]

If you're on the right wagon that reduces your scumminess! Assuming test is scum that is.

The case was made when the wagon started. I can search for it if you like.

[NoPowerOverMe]

VOTE: Testarossa. I took up Koba's offer to iso Testa and there's a lot of hedging language in there. Try doing a find-in-page highlight of the word "but" and you'll see it's all over the place.

I want to give this wagon some momentum and see where it goes.

And test has been non existant since the wagon began.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Well I guess if you think test is town then they must be town.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Yep and it's super convinient to suddenly "not be motivated" as your wagon builds.