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Post Post #50 (isolation #0) » Mon May 17, 2021 1:13 pm

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This game is a bloody circus, i hope someone randed the role i picked and kill me with it.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #1) » Mon May 17, 2021 1:53 pm

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I wanna play the game im gonna hate the most on this site, my debut one. Surely a game to remember.

If you want feedback wait until it at least ends.
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Post Post #59 (isolation #2) » Mon May 17, 2021 2:11 pm

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In post 54, Maruchan wrote:I'd like constructive criticism from every player who did not realize that they wouldn't be given one of their 4 roles to provide me with constructive feedback on what I could have done to make this fact clearer to you before you /in'd to the game, so that I have less upset players in future, because I literally don't know how to do so.
1) You asked the people who didnt realize that they wouldnt be given the role they picked, for constructive criticism. Im one of those people, make up your mind.

2) I was not rude, this is a game thread and now that we are in this mess, i at least wanna play it instead on focusing on the very aspect of the game that made me mad.

3) I told you to not pm me anything that is not game related.

4) Ask for suggestions in the mafia discussion board, that is what that section is for.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #3) » Tue May 18, 2021 9:37 am

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Hi
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Post Post #81 (isolation #4) » Tue May 18, 2021 10:09 am

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If you are gonna vote me at least get my name right.

How about we make this game a giant grand idea open game.

Claim all your picks that someone else may have ended up with:

I start

Towns picks: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11079020

and

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10384274

Mafia Pick: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 7#p7631267

Independent Pick: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 3#p9315553
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Post Post #89 (isolation #5) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:29 pm

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In post 83, Flea The Magician wrote:How about we don't give scum fakeclaim material to work with LJ?
They already have material, the entire Ircher's grand idea catalog provided by the host in tne signups Flea.

My idea narrows it down. Instead of 900, we minimize the pool to 13 x 4 = 52.

Don't you think that's great?
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Post Post #90 (isolation #6) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:33 pm

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In post 85, VFP wrote:
In post 83, Flea The Magician wrote:How about we don't give scum fakeclaim material to work with LJ?
What's your fake claim then, Flea!
Mines post 248 - Day 0 hated innocent child.

VOTE: Ircher

Let's get Irvher out of this game though!
Too informed of what to use to lie!

Rally with me!
Let's not yeet Ircher today, if he is town, we have the upper hand against scum in this game.

I LOVE INFORMATION

Don't you?
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Post Post #92 (isolation #7) » Tue May 18, 2021 1:09 pm

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In post 91, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 89, Lustice Jeague wrote:
In post 83, Flea The Magician wrote:How about we don't give scum fakeclaim material to work with LJ?
They already have material, the entire Ircher's grand idea catalog provided by the host in tne signups Flea.

My idea narrows it down. Instead of 900, we minimize the pool to 13 x 4 = 52.

Don't you think that's great?
I also think it gives scum more information on what they're potentially up against and honestly I don't see any benefit to this at all.

Suffice to say, I genuinely don't think we benefit from this at all
VOTE: Flea This is not real thought.

How can you say it does not benefit us at all if we are uninformed. Im not asking anyone to claim what roles they got, but their four submission picks? Why not? This way we limit scum on what roles they can possibly claim.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #8) » Tue May 18, 2021 1:43 pm

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In post 94, Guillotina wrote:
In post 93, Asteria wrote:I also think it's a bad idea
Maybe it's the crazy mindset of those who play bastard games, because i dont get it and i will not push hard for it but!:

If anyone share their original picks, i will give them access to my Continental Hotel benefits, which are:

1) Free day 1 townread
2) I will not consider targeting you tonight.
3) My eternal gratitude.

There are only two rooms available, do not let this great opportunity go by. :cool:
God damn it! I will not make an alt ever again, im too dumb to play on one.
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Post Post #116 (isolation #9) » Tue May 18, 2021 4:59 pm

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UNVOTE: Flea
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Post Post #117 (isolation #10) » Tue May 18, 2021 5:05 pm

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In post 106, Ircher wrote:
In post 94, Guillotina wrote:If anyone share their original picks, i will give them access to my Continental Hotel benefits, which are:

1) Free day 1 townread
2) I will not consider targeting you tonight.
3) My eternal gratitude.
I will go ahead share two of mine: I submitted both a Town Octuplet Voter and a Werewolf Octuplet Voter. The fade should thus be between SirCakez and the other octuplet voter as those are the only octuplet voters in my entire ISO.
Ok

VOTE: SirCakez
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Post Post #118 (isolation #11) » Tue May 18, 2021 5:06 pm

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In post 106, Ircher wrote:Don't worry; I already knew who you were since you signed up for the game.
No way, I made sure I was stealthy.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #12) » Wed May 19, 2021 2:14 am

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In post 121, xz03yx wrote:VOTE: Lustice Jeague

Damn that alt slip has me sus. Are they playing us for fools by throwing us of with a "mistake" accidently on purpose.

Just for the lols lets VOTE: Lustice Jeague just to make sure.

I think I may be drunk on power.
For posts like these is that i had chosen Day vig as my town picks. This reads like scum trying to scum read someone for wrong and angleshootish reasons.

VOTE: xz03yx

If we got a day vig, can we shoot this please?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #13) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:45 am

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LMAO get rekt xz03yx
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Post Post #161 (isolation #14) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:48 am

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I figure if I couldn't use the roles I submitted, I at least can voice who'd I shoot on the spot.

Who shall we shoot next hmm.

By the way, SirCakez and Ircher, welcome to my towncore.

VOTE: VFP
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Post Post #164 (isolation #15) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:52 am

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In post 163, VFP wrote:
In post 161, Lustice Jeague wrote:By the way, SirCakez and Ircher, welcome to my towncore.
Why Ircher?
He brought up the whole multiplet voting analysis and narrowed down our PoE today to two potential scum.

I'm sure scum does not do that.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #16) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:58 am

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In post 165, VFP wrote:Have you never played with Ircher before?
A game ago
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Post Post #187 (isolation #17) » Wed May 19, 2021 10:26 am

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Thank you Robert ;)
In post 184, VFP wrote:Ircher isn't confirmed town...
Yah the way flea said it is like if they knew Ircher was town.

So Robert randed the day multi vig shot that i picked.

Shoot VOTE: Flea then VFP for scum reading me and Ircher.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #18) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:52 am

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In post 193, Asteria wrote:Flea works for me

VOTE: Flea
Works for you?

UNVOTE: Flea

Explain. You made it sound like you are ok with any yeet. Are you the third party by any chance?
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Post Post #198 (isolation #19) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:53 am

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In post 195, Flea The Magician wrote:Hey Cakey, slam the rest of your votes on me and lets do this...
Why the defeatist attitude? This is not the town Flea i know? You'd be tunneling and AtEing people to dead by now.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #20) » Wed May 19, 2021 2:14 pm

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In post 221, VFP wrote:I'm going to bed though!
And I don't want to see any more fake AtE from Guil when I'm back!
het out of here, in our last game you were exactly the same thing, you were uncooperative as town, you tunnel townies including myself out of ego. You targeted ircher here for having more info than us, what other reason there is other than feeling like of less importance than him? Then you targeted me and continue to do so even though I push and shot (in spirit) scum, why? Because you didn't, I'm a threat to your ego.

This is the exact reason I actually townread you because when you are scum, you are a people pleaser, you are ridiculously appeasing but dude, I'd suggest you to look for better alternatives to get townread than this "succumb to my ego or perish" bullshit! You know how effective i am mechanically, so let me work, don't get in my way, and we will win.

And I agree, Flea is scum here, she outed herself with that TMI bit as Ircher is not Conftown, just like I am not, we just pushed on scum and helped Robert take a good shot and for all we know we could have been bussing that player, right? But we need find the other partners, right?

Also, Robert could be the day serial killer I picked, one that is one shot per day and shot the scum seeking for towncred to survive til the end and win, I'm just not ready for that yet and will look into him if he is still alive by day 3.
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Post Post #228 (isolation #21) » Wed May 19, 2021 2:46 pm

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In post 227, Robert M Hunter wrote:VFP or Flea = great targets
Why is VFP a great target?
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Post Post #229 (isolation #22) » Wed May 19, 2021 2:47 pm

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@Vaxkiller , do it like me, shoot and ask questions later.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #23) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:32 pm

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In post 232, Ircher wrote:Why are you assuming there is a 3rd party in this game?
Because ...
In post 8897, Maruchan wrote:Flavor/Mechanics: Upon signing up, you will send me Four roles from the Grand Idea thread, posted by Ircher, the thread's #1 contributor: two town, one mafia/werewolf (either alignment is fine), and
one of any alignment (town, mafia, werewolf, alien,
third party
, etc.)
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And I submitted this one as my pick: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 3#p9315553

Which by the way removes my suspicion that Robert may be a day serial killer as I had submitted that one with my main account, not this one, I got mixed up.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #24) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 232, Ircher wrote:Tbf to VFP, I'm pretty sure that was an RVS-style comment. The fact you are reading into it this much has me a bit worried.
Why?
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Post Post #238 (isolation #25) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 236, Ircher wrote:That still doesn't
guarantee
there is a third party in the game.
And? Have I guaranteed it?
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Post Post #240 (isolation #26) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:42 pm

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In post 239, Ircher wrote:
In post 238, Lustice Jeague wrote:
In post 236, Ircher wrote:That still doesn't
guarantee
there is a third party in the game.
And? Have I guaranteed it?
Yes. You asked if Robert was
the
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third party. Call it semantics all you want, but the use of the article "the" implies there is one.
It's a matter of semantics misuse, there is no way I'd know there is a third party unless I am exactly the third party who just stupidly TMIed my own alignment like a noob.

Don't read into it, it's a reaction question. Let me work in miracle ways like the God of Mafia I am.
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Post Post #241 (isolation #27) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:43 pm

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I'm watching John Wick 3 and I'm loving it!
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Post Post #271 (isolation #28) » Thu May 20, 2021 3:04 am

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In post 242, VFP wrote:
In post 222, Lustice Jeague wrote:I'm a threat to your ego.
Stop with the AtE.
Someone calling you scum doesn't mean its ego at all and if you carry on I will just push a PL on you regardless.

You tried the same shit last game and even tried to push me as scum all game I was in it.
You say I am making the game unfun just because I am suspecting you as scum. You're the one who is pushing to make this a personal attack towards me and apparently if at any point in the game I call you scum it's because my ego is in danger.

And I noticed that anyone else calling you scum last game also received the AtE. I mean, you even tried to push someone of faking a disability to fit your narrative and seemed genuinely pissed off when you read mod as confirming it because you had to stop then using bullshit to vote there.

Don't test me here, or do.
Im beginning to think you are scum who is pushing me because you know how great i am making me hanical decisions.

Suspecting me as scum is part of the game, im not mad because of that. I'm mad because of the audacity of scum reading me because i don't sheep your votes when i know that have a habit of deathtunneling townies for the most ridiculous reasons such as “he unvoted my scumread, therefore he must be scum”, or “He has more info than us that he could manipulate us with, therefor he is scum, let's yeet him”, or “His AtEing me because i scumread him” after you deathtunnel people and legit piss them off.

I am mad because we did this the last game and it was draining and i dont want to do it again, this is not a personal attack, it's your meta, it's your modus operandi, it's who you are as a player, if you think the truth is insulting then dont blame me, look inside of you and look for better ways to get townread without being an accessory to scum who will keep you for end game as long as you continue doing the dirty work for them.

It is either that or you are scum here, more of that later.

“If you unvote my scum read is because you are scum” IS AN EGO STATEMENT if you are town, the other alternative is you are scum scumreading me for bad reason like xz45yz or what his name was, did.
Or it's a reaction test but if it is i hate it. It's not a personal attack, it's a fact! I know it because I used to have an ego and i used to use it in games to impose my will on people until i got policy yeeted in every game for it. This is not a personal attack, it's constructive criticism, if you are town, look for non damaging ways to test for reactions.

Second, learn this VFP, AtE is not alignment indicative. In that game you mentioned I WAS TOWN and you were town as well, the disabled guy was town as well. Casting a bad light on me because i push on a disabled person is messed up, when 1) I've seen players faking a condition to get people to back off. Yah, there are players like thst out there. 2) I apologized to the player after game.

I was not mad at the mod for confirming the guy was indeed disabled because he never did, all he said was to take disability reveals in good faith, which spewed him town. That is mod interference that shouldn't happen, it's bad practice, he should have said that to me privately, which he did but right after he posted it to the thread. For that very reason is why we won, because scum thought that CaptainS was gonna be the easy mischop when i was fooling scum into thinking i was tunneled onto him, when in reality i was protecting the mod spewed townie.

And that last part feels like a threat. Don't threaten me, it's a bad idea because if you are town, scum is gonna use that to push you when i flip town. If you are scum keep on threatening me though, you know how effective i am at night as Ircher, Flea and everyone else who was in that game found out too.
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Post Post #272 (isolation #29) » Thu May 20, 2021 3:10 am

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In post 245, VFP wrote:So after thought this is where I'm at.

Town leader
Cakes

Most likely town
Robert
Ircher
A50

Maybe town
Vax
Guil

?
T3
Enchant
VD

Scum butt who is someone I look up to but still scum so I have to do this! For the good of this village!
Flea

Robert moves down to most likely just because of there apparently being a day vig SK option.
Ok explain now why im leaning town when you scumread me in the last page.

Explain why Robert is scum now when i daid i made a mistake stating that i had picked day serial killer when it was bulletproof ascetic serial killer and when Robert is scum reading right now?
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Post Post #277 (isolation #30) » Thu May 20, 2021 3:21 am

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In post 259, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 229, Lustice Jeague wrote:@Vaxkiller , do it like me, shoot and ask questions later.
I thought robert shot...
That is what he claimed right?

What i meant in that post is what i usually do, i just take the shot off my gut, consensus shots are a bad idea on Day 1. If you want consensus shots you shouldnt have softed being another day vig and leave the shooting for later, if you survive til then.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #31) » Thu May 20, 2021 3:23 am

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In post 275, VFP wrote:Guil has 0 remorse for attacking someone with a disability as a liar and that's his fucking town game. He's doubling down here as scum.
Not to mention he's a fucking liar.

Get this player outta here!

VOTE: Lustice Jeague
Omg dude, im just going to Ignore you exist in this game, it's like you dont read anything i say. Do whatever you like.

VOTE: FLEA
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Post Post #280 (isolation #32) » Thu May 20, 2021 3:25 am

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Now who is making personal attacks?
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Post Post #281 (isolation #33) » Thu May 20, 2021 3:27 am

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Actually no. Call it OMGUS all you like but VFP is crossing the line

VOTE: VFP
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Post Post #282 (isolation #34) » Thu May 20, 2021 3:30 am

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In post 273, VFP wrote:Disgusting play last game and then has the audacity to even lie about it.
What did i lie about?
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Post Post #283 (isolation #35) » Thu May 20, 2021 3:33 am

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So, VFP town leans me out of nowhere after he scum read me and when i questioned him about it, he uses something from a past game to advocate for a policy yeet. This guy is caught scum.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #36) » Thu May 20, 2021 3:51 am

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In post 284, Maruchan wrote:
looking for a replacement for VFP.

Lustice Jeague, cool it with being a dick please. You were a dick to me, and now another player is requesting replacement to avoid you.
Are you serious?

UNVOTE: VFP

The VFP slot is now lock town.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #37) » Thu May 20, 2021 3:58 am

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In post 286, Flea The Magician wrote:holy shit I leave a bit to try and sort out my brain imploding on itself (whoo BPD and emotional dysregulation), and you two are gunning for this like two fucking cats in a full on territory war.
Spoiler: My response to all that
Both of you need to chill the fuck out, sit the fuck down and breathe.
You're both damned good fucking players who I have a lot of respect for and I know I can have a damned good game with, and you both need to grow some damn orbs and talk it out like decent people.

VFP you're using meta tells far too much on two meta-aware players who can and will shift their meta.
LJ calm the hell down, turn off the fire and realise not everything is a freaking threat. Games get heated, bad calls get made, you need to chill the fire and that's coming from my firey ass.


That game was was definitely interesting. LJ had legit concerns, they were addressed and mod clarified and dealt with it. It wasn't pretty but I could see the concerns.

The policy vote I disagree with, the reason for LJ vote, I disagree with considering the meta used and I was in that game.

LJ's response is a little overboard but has a point.

Like I said, I'm locked on VFP
Flea we both know what just happened, dont push on VFP or i'll tell Robert or Vax to shoot you.

VFP is now lock town for similar reasons that CaptainS was lock town.

Also, im not being a dick, im honest and honest in a world full of entitlement is considered being a dick, i'll never apologize for being honest about my feelings.
I do apologize for not seeing the randomization rule and blame it on you though Maruchan. But i was not a dick to VFP, i was being honest.
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Post Post #298 (isolation #38) » Thu May 20, 2021 5:28 am

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In post 297, Guillotina wrote:
In post 295, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 288, Lustice Jeague wrote:Flea we both know what just happened, dont push on VFP or i'll tell Robert or Vax to shoot you.

VFP is now lock town for similar reasons that CaptainS was lock town.
Ducking out because of conflict is NAI. The reasons for the vote and bad meta is AI imo.

Your reads are as swingy as you were calling out VFP for, LJ. -.-;

either way I'm fully tilted at this point, my reads are probably shit because headspace is fucked.
I'm town, of course I'm swingy. I'm not town locking the VFP slot for ducking out, I'm town locking it because now we know it was not theater as confirmed by the mod. VFP was still wrong about me but his emotions were real, there is no way I'm yeeting that slot in this game, in my eyes whoever replaces VFP is Inno Child.

VOTE: FLEA
This crap is annoying me. Remind me to delete this account when the game is over.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #39) » Thu May 20, 2021 6:32 pm

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In post 344, Almost50 wrote:@Guillo: Dopes this look familiar?
In post 193, Asteria wrote:Flea works for me

VOTE: Flea
Also, how about you switch accounts and save yourself, us & the mod the trouble?? :lol:
OMG, I need to forget about Guillotina account as long as this game lasts. This is so embarrassing!
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Post Post #346 (isolation #40) » Thu May 20, 2021 6:32 pm

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In post 345, Lustice Jeague wrote:
In post 344, Almost50 wrote:@Guillo: Dopes this look familiar?
In post 193, Asteria wrote:Flea works for me

VOTE: Flea
Also, how about you switch accounts and save yourself, us & the mod the trouble?? :lol:
OMG, I need to forget about Guillotina account as long as this game lasts. This is so embarrassing!
VOTE: Asteria
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Post Post #354 (isolation #41) » Fri May 21, 2021 2:22 am

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I am a Werewolf Taboo Ninja Strongman
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Post Post #371 (isolation #42) » Fri May 21, 2021 8:13 am

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In post 346, Lustice Jeague wrote:
In post 345, Lustice Jeague wrote:
In post 344, Almost50 wrote:@Guillo: Dopes this look familiar?
In post 193, Asteria wrote:Flea works for me

VOTE: Flea
Also, how about you switch accounts and save yourself, us & the mod the trouble?? :lol:
OMG, I need to forget about Guillotina account as long as this game lasts. This is so embarrassing!
VOTE: Asteria
@Maruchan please update the vote count with my vote, seems you missed it.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #43) » Fri May 21, 2021 8:17 am

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In post 361, Asteria wrote:
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Vax


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Why is Vax Orange?

Why am i not green?

Why is VFP not green?
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Post Post #375 (isolation #44) » Fri May 21, 2021 9:28 am

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In post 373, Asteria wrote:
In post 363, Flea The Magician wrote:bah it didn't remove the chocolate colour and the first mention of xz is bugged... I blame the non-hexcode colour.

Anyway, those are the pre-flip VCAs, talk me through them Asteria.
My main concern and what I was focusing on was people who are now conftown or essentially conftown.
Cakez has 3 votes. Mine, yours, and x's. I think there's a good chance scum was voting with their buddy at some point since having multiple votes makes it easier to hide that. X was voting with you, me, vfp, cakez, robert. Everyone on that list is either conftown or near conftown from my perspective except you and vfp. I townread vfp.

If we want to look at who x was voting, that's ircher, vfp, cakez, lustice, all of which I townread.

So it all adds up
In post 372, Lustice Jeague wrote:
In post 361, Asteria wrote:
Robert
Ircher
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Lustice
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Italiano
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Vax


Flea The Magician
Why is Vax Orange?

Why am i not green?

Why is VFP not green?
Vax is pretty hung up on Robert being a vig and it doesn't look like a towny mindset

Why should you and VFP be green? Green is conf/near conf town
About Vax, point taken and noted.

How is Ircher Conftown? SirCakez i understand it, Robert I understand it. But why Ircher and not me as well? Ircher pointed out the existence of two split-vote roles in this game, to which one would be scum.
I called out, pushed and recommended shooting one of them on the spot, so essentially Ircher and I helped ConfTown SirCakes, yet I'm at a lower group than both of them? Why?

VFP is town spewed by the mod. It's policy to read it that way and the very reason why hosts are not allowed to influence the game by validating player's emotions.
Mods are not supposed to make comments like "you were a dick to me and you were a dick to VFP and now he quit", cause that is validating a reason for quitting, one that is mod confirmed. Until that point I thought he could be town but i had a mildly suspicion that it could be an overreaction from scum!VFP after he failed to push and discredit me, so he could have quit as wolf giving up. But with the mod's comment that changed everything! Now I know his reaction was real, that it was real frustration and that he took my push personal. That is why the VFP (now Psyche) slot is now lock town.

So again, why are we not green?
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Post Post #380 (isolation #45) » Fri May 21, 2021 9:52 am

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In post 377, Asteria wrote:
In post 375, Lustice Jeague wrote:
In post 373, Asteria wrote:
In post 363, Flea The Magician wrote:bah it didn't remove the chocolate colour and the first mention of xz is bugged... I blame the non-hexcode colour.

Anyway, those are the pre-flip VCAs, talk me through them Asteria.
My main concern and what I was focusing on was people who are now conftown or essentially conftown.
Cakez has 3 votes. Mine, yours, and x's. I think there's a good chance scum was voting with their buddy at some point since having multiple votes makes it easier to hide that. X was voting with you, me, vfp, cakez, robert. Everyone on that list is either conftown or near conftown from my perspective except you and vfp. I townread vfp.

If we want to look at who x was voting, that's ircher, vfp, cakez, lustice, all of which I townread.

So it all adds up
In post 372, Lustice Jeague wrote:
In post 361, Asteria wrote:
Robert
Ircher
Cakez


Lustice
VFP
Enchant
A50


Italiano
T3


Vax


Flea The Magician
Why is Vax Orange?

Why am i not green?

Why is VFP not green?
Vax is pretty hung up on Robert being a vig and it doesn't look like a towny mindset

Why should you and VFP be green? Green is conf/near conf town
About Vax, point taken and noted.

How is Ircher Conftown? SirCakez i understand it, Robert I understand it. But why Ircher and not me as well? Ircher pointed out the existence of two split-vote roles in this game, to which one would be scum.
I called out, pushed and recommended shooting one of them on the spot, so essentially Ircher and I helped ConfTown SirCakes, yet I'm at a lower group than both of them? Why?

VFP is town spewed by the mod. It's policy to read it that way and the very reason why hosts are not allowed to influence the game by validating player's emotions.
Mods are not supposed to make comments like "you were a dick to me and you were a dick to VFP and now he quit", cause that is validating a reason for quitting, one that is mod confirmed. Until that point I thought he could be town but i had a mildly suspicion that it could be an overreaction from scum!VFP after he failed to push and discredit me, so he could have quit as wolf giving up. But with the mod's comment that changed everything! Now I know his reaction was real, that it was real frustration and that he took my push personal. That is why the VFP (now Psyche) slot is now lock town.

So again, why are we not green?
I think you're right. I should have you up there with Ircher as well. Consider yourself green. I don't think scum worries enough about being in yellow instead of green to try to get it changed anyway.

I don't think VFP slot is conftown for that. Scum can have genuine emotions. That was all NAI.
That is not the point. Gosh, it's like I'm the only one that read mafia theory here, you know what? I'm not gonna keep trying to teach you all.

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Post Post #383 (isolation #46) » Fri May 21, 2021 10:36 am

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In post 381, Enchant wrote:You forgot to include self.

Mafia claim here seems?
Why would I want to add myself to the list when I know I am town? Wolfy push.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #47) » Sat May 22, 2021 3:27 am

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In post 392, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 385, Psyche wrote:vax is probably interested in robert's role because of his draft
Im interested because there are day serial killers and I thought day vigs just put kill: playername in thread.
This is precisely why i said that i'd look into him later if he is not resolved tonight. No killer ever survives a night after claiming unless:

They are scum

Or

Scum wants them alive
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Post Post #397 (isolation #48) » Sat May 22, 2021 3:33 am

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Also im getting a feeling that scum is comfortable with Asteria's wagon. There is no push back.
Almost feels like DADV.

Let's make them uncomfortable

VOTE: T3
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Post Post #399 (isolation #49) » Sat May 22, 2021 4:20 am

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In post 398, Asteria wrote:Works for me
VOTE: T3
Stop doing that. What do you mean it works for you?

You are playing like a jester would
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Post Post #401 (isolation #50) » Sat May 22, 2021 4:23 am

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In post 400, Asteria wrote:T3 is in my null category so I see no problem with a wagon here
I can see why but do you mind sharing your why to see if we mindmeld?
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Post Post #411 (isolation #51) » Sat May 22, 2021 8:29 am

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In post 409, Guillotina wrote:
In post 404, Psyche wrote:
In post 397, Lustice Jeague wrote:Also im getting a feeling that scum is comfortable with Asteria's wagon. There is no push back.
aren't we maybe underestimating scum a little if we take feelings like these too seriously?
Well, Asteria is not helping us to townread her so let’s go back there.

VOTE: Asteria
Shit. Like i logged out from my guillotina account in every browser, why am i still posting as Guillotina?!!!

VOTE: Asteria
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Post Post #421 (isolation #52) » Sat May 22, 2021 10:07 am

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Yah last game i played scum fast hammered in every day phase until they won.

VOTE: Italiano

Now here is a question? Why did SirCakez pressure Italiano to do something and why Italiano took that as fast hammering Asteria?

Something is odd at play here.
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Post Post #422 (isolation #53) » Sat May 22, 2021 10:10 am

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In post 420, Robert M Hunter wrote:
In post 397, Lustice Jeague wrote:Also im getting a feeling that scum is comfortable with Asteria's wagon. There is no push back.
Almost feels like DADV.

Let's make them uncomfortable

VOTE: T3
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Was there push back against the z03xz wagon?
You shot him didnt you? What you think? Did scum have time to push back?
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Post Post #440 (isolation #54) » Sat May 22, 2021 4:27 pm

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In post 436, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 432, Ircher wrote:I think I know what is, but I want Italiano to claim it himself. If I am correct, he should have no reason to hide his role.
Yeah you’re right I was going to. I wanted to see players reaction on what they thought was a hammer.

I’m a
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I think Lustice is scum and I think we should be voting there.

I think the whole ‘scum not wanting to do anything about Asteria’ bit was misrepresented. As I said I think Asteria was the counterwagon to Flea. Then he voted for Asteria for not showing us that they’re town which is a weak reason to me. Then putting them at L-1 which puts them in hammer range. Doesn’t make sense to do that when you just said that scum was okay with the wagon.
In post 437, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 421, Lustice Jeague wrote:Yah last game i played scum fast hammered in every day phase until they won.

VOTE: Italiano

Now here is a question? Why did SirCakez pressure Italiano to do something and why Italiano took that as fast hammering Asteria?

Something is odd at play here.
This is scum. I don’t believe a town player would place a player they just kinda defended at L1 and then go after the person that “hammered”.
One, i am defending nobody except Ircher and SirCakez, you go after them and you can count on a guaranteed vote on yourself, unless you are a cop with a bloody redcheck on them.

Two, i didnt vote Asteria for just not making the effort to get townread by us, Asteria has been vague with thecreads she outs and has shown acceptance to yeet anyone as long as is not her, that is why i've been voting her and will continue to push there VOTE: ASTERIA
Notice how she is ok with any yeet? She voted Flea, T3 and yourself? Yah, she has no conviction!

Three, we townies can afford to be as inconsistent as we want, why? Because we lack of TMI, do you wanna catch a wolf? Look at how consistent he is trying to be every damn time to not look “wolfy”. So would i push on someone with a vote after “defending” her a post ago? ABSO-FUCKIN-LUTELY, I reserve the right to re-evaluate my reads as many and as frequently as i want.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #55) » Sun May 23, 2021 5:35 am

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In post 451, Asteria wrote:
In post 438, Ircher wrote:VOTE: Flea

Italiano seems to have used their role in a pro-town manner to me, so I'm a bit disinclined to go there. That being said, I should probably just go ahead and claim the rest of my picks.

As we are all aware, two of mine were the octuplet voters, 1 werewolf and 1 town.
For my other town one, I submitted Town Voteless Hurter (post #8822).
For my free pick, I submitted Mafia Compulsive Restricted Unvoter (post #4647). I did not submit the town equivalent, but it is very possible someone else did, and I think Italiano would be caught later on if they are indeed scum, so I don't see as much to gain there as we did with the Octuplet voters. At any rate, if Italiano is scum, he can't help his partners quickhammer.
Ok so even if Italiano is scum, he's low priority scum by role.
VOTE: Flea
In post 440, Lustice Jeague wrote: Notice how she is ok with any yeet? She voted Flea, T3 and yourself? Yah, she has no conviction!
I'm not ok with Ircher, Robert, Cakez, you, now Italiano. That's 5 people in a mini I'm not ok with
What about Enchant, Vaxkiller, Almost50 and Psyche?
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Post Post #474 (isolation #56) » Sun May 23, 2021 12:56 pm

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What the hell is this game? Am i the one with the vote being stolen or what?

Bloody GIM games! Ircher this is your fault for creating that role! Figure this mess out lol.
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Post Post #475 (isolation #57) » Sun May 23, 2021 1:05 pm

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VOTE: FLEA

Flea, im gonna ask you once. Are you the one trolling us with a vote remover role?

Don't make me post the Kon Killer gif.
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Post Post #482 (isolation #58) » Sun May 23, 2021 2:27 pm

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Wait... i think Asteria is the vote thief
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Post Post #483 (isolation #59) » Sun May 23, 2021 2:35 pm

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Trying to figure out this vote fiasco is giving me a headache.

I'll wait for Flea to answer for a couple of hours otherwise im just gonna park my vote on them.
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Post Post #485 (isolation #60) » Sun May 23, 2021 3:10 pm

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In post 484, Maruchan wrote:
votecount 13With 12 alive, 7 to yeet.

Flea The Magician - 4 - Ircher, Asteria, Lustice Jeague, T3
ItalianoVD - 1 - Robert M Hunter
Asteria - 0 - SirCakez, SirCakez, SirCakez, SirCakez, SirCakez, SirCakez, SirCakez, SirCakez, ItalianoVD
Ircher - 1 - Flea The Magician
Lustice Jeague - 0 -
Psyche - 0 -
Vaxkiller - 0 -
Robert M Hunter - 0 -
T3 - 0 -
SirCakez - 0 -
Enchant - 0 -
Almost50 - 0 -

Not Voting, Vaxkiller, Enchant, Almost50, Psyche

You have (expired on 2021-06-01 15:00:00) to reach a yeet.
~Death by Votecounts
SirCakes got his vote stolen!!
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Post Post #486 (isolation #61) » Sun May 23, 2021 3:15 pm

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I think Asteria is doing something against our votes. We all need to yeet this

VOTE: Asteria

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Post Post #495 (isolation #62) » Sun May 23, 2021 5:11 pm

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In post 492, Almost50 wrote:I hate everyone who is still thinking there's a vote stealer. It shows you are either not reading or do not care to research the claim.
In post 493, Ircher wrote:
In post 492, Almost50 wrote:I hate everyone who is still thinking there's a vote stealer. It shows you are either not reading or do not care to research the claim.
———
In post 4648, Ircher wrote:
Town Compulsive Unvoter

Your vote is worth -1 (meaning you increase the lynch threshold of the person you are voting by 1).
You must vote a player each day (failure to do so will result in your suicide).

Moderator Note: Vote weight should be accurately reflected in the votecount.
What am i missing? Italiano’s claimed role is a -1 vote, so it pretty much means his vote does not count. HIS VOTE
But Asteria is missing Sir Cakez’ vote too. Explain that, explain it like i was a five year old.
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Post Post #499 (isolation #63) » Sun May 23, 2021 5:20 pm

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Im gonna get banned for using my main account once again, am i not?

Cause, i didnt log out from it from my iphone.
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Post Post #501 (isolation #64) » Sun May 23, 2021 5:25 pm

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VOTE: FLEA
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