Does this make sense dsjstr?In post 747, Albert B. Rampage wrote:If you mean MorningTweet and not Adorable, since I was death tunneling group 1, people thought I might be the chief conspirator of a 1-1-1 scum partition and trying to win in 1 fell swoop by lynching group 1. MT put group 1 at L-1 for me to hammer so that I could prove I didn't hammer, which would make me instantly win if I were scum with another buddy outside group 1.In post 740, dsjstr wrote:@Albert Now before I continue I want to understand what was the purpose of your performance with Adorable?
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Yeah, being this good at mafia comes at a cost. People don't see that. They just talk about the wins, the glory, the solves. They don't see the hard work behind that, the failures that build the confidence, and the haters that swarm about.
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It's much better than, "help me prove I'm town"In post 750, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Does this make sense dsjstr?In post 747, Albert B. Rampage wrote:If you mean MorningTweet and not Adorable, since I was death tunneling group 1, people thought I might be the chief conspirator of a 1-1-1 scum partition and trying to win in 1 fell swoop by lynching group 1. MT put group 1 at L-1 for me to hammer so that I could prove I didn't hammer, which would make me instantly win if I were scum with another buddy outside group 1.In post 740, dsjstr wrote:@Albert Now before I continue I want to understand what was the purpose of your performance with Adorable?
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"When we look at Raya's post, who is playing a more straightforward mafia game, she's trying to set up group 3 for a lynch as well:"
She was trying to frame me. If you pay attention, many of her interactions about my slot were "I think clidd is town", "that clidd post was towny", "I agree with clidd", etc. At no time did she develop her read about me to justify the exaggerated agreement with my inferences.The fact that Ame was also scum and tunneled early on my slot is strong sign of conspiracy against me.
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"He says it's ignorant to want to lynch group 1 but I'm town. What are the main differences between us?
A) I wanted to lynch group 1 from the start, which Raya and Ame didn't want.
B) I was on the final lynch of group 1, and clidd is not.
C) I wanted to avoid casting suspicion on clidd, so I could break the game in the final day and win. clidd wanted to avoid casting suspicion on me, so that group 3 gets lynched day 1, and that I would side with him on day 2."
A) I wanted to lynch group 1 from the start, which Raya and Ame didn't want.
B) I was on the final lynch of group 1, and clidd is not.
C) I wanted to avoid casting suspicion on clidd, so I could break the game in the final day and win. clidd wanted to avoid casting suspicion on me, so that group 3 gets lynched day 1, and that I would side with him on day 2."
A) I find it unusual how easy/fast you concluded that group 3 would be a lynch-bait and that scums should be in group 1. I don't see a hard-bus being so far from your scum-range.
B) It means nothing. It was quite predictable that group 1 would be lynched after the focus left group 2~3.
C) I don't see where Town!Albert would be on my side. If you can explain it to me, I would appreciate it.
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"We know that clidd was setting up group 3 as the day 2 lynch". "Especially considering that I expressed a scumread on Mohab yesterday and was scumhunting in group 3 without ever publicly suspecting clidd. Clidd has been mirroring this and suspecting Mohab since day 1 as well. All his actions make sense coming into today with his evaluation of me thus far."
My progression over group 3 has absolutely nothing to do with the purpose you are implying. In my view, group 3 had been structured for wifom purposes, precisely because of a possible member of the mafia who was naturally scummy and needed a group that "camouflaged" this to ensure that he was not lynched. Your interpretation of my scumread at Mohab is incompatible with our groups today, no way Scum!clidd could've won with this sequence.
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"Finally, I would say that clidd has been acting like he knows too much."
I don't see how a basic deduction (668) implies that "I know a lot". I'm sure I wasn't the only one to think about it.
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It's too dangerous to lynch mohab/dsjrt from my perspective. I won't self-vote. My options are extremely limited even if you are telling the truth.
You said I was obvious town before.
So if it's me, mohab, and dsjstr because we mislynch you/me, then what happens next? Who is the last scum and why?
You said I was obvious town before.
So if it's me, mohab, and dsjstr because we mislynch you/me, then what happens next? Who is the last scum and why?
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You aren't clear, dude. I would be much more inclined to cooperate if I didn't notice that your big post was made in a premeditated way to FoS me.In post 761, Albert B. Rampage wrote:OK I don't care about your defense because you're the logical lynch today to avoid insta-losing.
Let's suppose you are town, we get to d3 and it's me, dsj and mohab, you're me, who do you vote then?
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Scum didn't want to lynch group 1, very clearly. All can see that. I MADE that happen. So yeah I'm a hell of a lot more clear than you. On the offchance you are town, I want to know who you think is scum between dsjstr and mohab. Take all the time need, I'm not voting you.
I will not change my mind and vote dsjstr/mohab today and doom this game if it's you.
If you're town, I'll let my ego take the hit and scumhunt on day 3 to find the winning solve.
I will not change my mind and vote dsjstr/mohab today and doom this game if it's you.
If you're town, I'll let my ego take the hit and scumhunt on day 3 to find the winning solve.
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I won't self-vote too. You make the most sense for the way you interpreted all my progression in the game. It seems very biased to be a speculation of a town mentality. But, there are some things that I would like to check before voting.In post 763, Albert B. Rampage wrote:It's too dangerous to lynch mohab/dsjrt from my perspective. I won't self-vote. My options are extremely limited even if you are telling the truth.
You said I was obvious town before.
So if it's me, mohab, and dsjstr because we mislynch you/me, then what happens next? Who is the last scum and why?
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Why weren't you killed then ?In post 765, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Scum didn't want to lynch group 1, very clearly. All can see that. I MADE that happen. So yeah I'm a hell of a lot more clear than you. On the offchance you are town, I want to know who you think is scum between dsjstr and mohab. Take all the time need, I'm not voting you.
I will not change my mind and vote dsjstr/mohab today and doom this game if it's you.
If you're town, I'll let my ego take the hit and scumhunt on day 3 to find the winning solve.
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You put a lot of work calling me town day 1.In post 768, clidd wrote:Why weren't you killed then ?In post 765, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Scum didn't want to lynch group 1, very clearly. All can see that. I MADE that happen. So yeah I'm a hell of a lot more clear than you. On the offchance you are town, I want to know who you think is scum between dsjstr and mohab. Take all the time need, I'm not voting you.
I will not change my mind and vote dsjstr/mohab today and doom this game if it's you.
If you're town, I'll let my ego take the hit and scumhunt on day 3 to find the winning solve.
I was suspecting group 3 day 1, same as you. I never said I suspected you.
I think you use me today to vote mohab/dsjstr and turn them against each other and win.
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It's obvious mohab/dsjstr is town to me, they both wanted to lynch themselves yesterday. Scum would obviously try to go for the option with no scum in it instead of self-voting. It's plain and evident that they are town. That's my conclusion.
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Then I would kill enomis (which I could push), leave you and me isolated in antagonistic slots and put two scumreads together in a group knowing that the logic would be to lynch the isolated slots to decrease the PoE and therefore would have to go 1v1 with you (someone who pushed group 1 from the start/my TR)? No, it doesn't make sense.
Neither of us fully committed to itIn post 770, Albert B. Rampage wrote:It's obvious mohab/dsjstr is town to me, they both wanted to lynch themselves yesterday. Scum would obviously try to go for the option with no scum in it instead of self-voting. It's plain and evident that they are town. That's my conclusion.
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I think you expect me to push group 1 here with you and get them to turn on each other. They were willing to self vote yesterday. We were perfectly aligned day 1. It makes perfect sense.In post 771, clidd wrote:Then I would kill enomis (which I could push), leave you and me isolated in antagonistic slots and put two scumreads together in a group knowing that the logic would be to lynch the isolated slots to decrease the PoE and therefore would have to go 1v1 with you (someone who pushed group 1 from the start/my TR)? No, it doesn't make sense.
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I was a showstopper and fucked up the scum's plan. My meta is that I suck as scum btw.In post 772, dsjstr wrote:Neither of us fully committed to itIn post 770, Albert B. Rampage wrote:It's obvious mohab/dsjstr is town to me, they both wanted to lynch themselves yesterday. Scum would obviously try to go for the option with no scum in it instead of self-voting. It's plain and evident that they are town. That's my conclusion.
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