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[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Titus
Green cap LOCKTOWN

Like they weren't before...

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll read Newbie 2035 i guess.

[Dwlee99]

Okay then maybe you'll listen to them saying what I was saying.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Okay then maybe you'll listen to them saying what I was saying.

Lis...ten...?

[Dwlee99]

meta

bad

Based t3???

[Dwlee99]

Okay then maybe you'll listen to them saying what I was saying.

Lis...ten...?

I do not comprehend

[NorwegianboyEE]

I know not of this concept you call listen.

[T3]

I knight thee... Sir Datisi the Townread!

[Green Cap Boys]

Titus, do you wanna go into why you had reservations wrt Dwlee and I?

He's done nothing but sheep my lurkers need to die post. Then he immediately started lurking.

No

@norwee

I will be shooting who I want to

Continued FoS on this. He's clearly reading up but somehow not responding to our requests for more content.

Spoiler:

votey 1.0.04.01.0 !

Bingle (4):

mastina, The Emperor, Dwlee99, NorwegianboyEE

The Emperor (1):

ta vera

ta vera (1):

Bingle

Fairy Circle (1):

Titus

Titus (1):

Green Cap Boys

not voting (3):

The Limit Does Not Exist, T3, Fairy Circle

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to cause someone to Wet. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-08-17 12:30:00)

modorator notes

• Schweppes

I didn't realize/forgot how big the Bingle wagon was here or that Dwlee was sheeping it.

Another FoS Dwlee.

In particular here, this is the kind of surfacey reasoning I expect scum to attack people on, stuff like "lurking" and "sheeping" that are generic catchalls that don't require any actual analysis of what people are doing (and overall, I still feel the kind of reactive playstyle dwlee has had here is more likely to come from town)

I finished my catchup and shall declare a townbloc: T3, Norwee, Emp, GCB
maybe Bingle and maybe mastina, will metadive mastina soon.

Interesting. I think T3 might be scum with Dwlee here and one from his list. I feel mastina is town. My gut says Norway but that's weak.

This, also, is just way too breezy reasoning - why does T3 have to be scum with dwlee? It doesn't add up, and her later attacks on T3 for "being too serious" and "messing with the votecounts" are just bad - in general that level of meta reasoning is suspect, T3 has been entirely serious when he was town in my other two games (even if he wasn't quite like how he's playing here) and mood/demanor aren't really a good way of evaluating alignment. Point about the votes is just pure nonsense, none of it seems to actually involve analyzing what T3 is actually saying.

That combined with the really bad defense of Fairy Circle makes me want to vote her because it all comes across as wholly inauthentic.

-R

[Green Cap Boys]

I knight thee... Sir Datisi the Townread!

Past few pages have been all me, not Datisi

-R

[NorwegianboyEE]

OMG so i just noticed this.

So in Newbie 2035 Titus was SCUM and made the following two posts:

Hello!

Just going off a gut feeling here,
VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
This is an incredibly reliable method of decision and he is absolutely 100% scum.

Only a scum deals in absolutes.
VOTE: TheDuke

Isn't only scum an absolute?

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

his/her being newbie doesn't mean that she/he has to be the townie! he/she can a newbie scum too, right? how do you reach the conclusion of his/her being townie here?

Their tone in their 3 posts so far have been very town. Newb!scum doesn't have the pre-necessitated skills to fake the type of content they've made, they just don't.
It's true that if i was scum i would know everyone's alignment beforehand. But calling out someone that could easily be elimination bait later on as town if i'm scum would be contrary to my wincon if i was mafia.

Not if you knew I wouldn't let you get away with denying his towniness.

And in this game Titus makes the following two posts:

My ingredients are sugar and spice, and everything nice.

We can't have nice things.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

My ingredients are sugar and spice, and everything nice.

We can't have nice things.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

why are you making an rvs vote at this point?

Mechanics talk doesn't break us out of RVS.

Notice how they follow the EXACT same pattern of: "Awkward vote on to me because i'm fucking around, followed with an strangely serious reply that makes it seem like they genuinely want to vote me off."

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also: "Not if you knew I wouldn't let you get away with denying his towniness." is the worlds most hilarious line from scum ever.

[Dwlee99]

Okay vote

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Dwlee
Only if you promise on the condition of Titus flipping scum, that henceforth Meta shall be referred to as exclusively "good".

[NorwegianboyEE]

Which will you surrender? You pride? Or the possibility that the flip you crave shall be lost to you when it is so close within your grasp?
Let the games commence.

[Dwlee99]

No because I caught Titus before meta was even mentioned

[Dwlee99]

AND you tried to meta townread her. Awful

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not giving you my vote then.

[Dwlee99]

Am I playing anti win con or are you

[NorwegianboyEE]

You were THIS close to getting it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Am I playing anti win con or are you

I'm still voting someone i scumread so i do not believe so.

[Dwlee99]

Fair enough

[Dwlee99]

Meta bad

[NorwegianboyEE]

Would i perform actions that up the stakes of the game for my own amusement? Absolutely.
Depends on whether you consider this anti-wincon.

[Green Cap Boys]

I took a look at the Fairy Circle ISO and while I can't say I'd be super confident they flip town I feel as though 818 and 823 are

fine

and don't really feel the case against them is all that strong. In particular I don't find the supposed townslip all that outrageous from two people who are openly falling behind on the game. Not that I'd townlock them for it, but it certainly wouldn't be

the best possible reason to eliminate someone

at this point in time.

I wouldn't necessarily dig my heels in against the vote given limited time but think anyone in my group of suspects is a stronger read, think Titus needs vigged if not eliminated (this also actually dovetails with Datisi's "I don't know" pile so we're actually somewhat synced here)

-R