We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[Titus]

**you dislike me

[Titus]

"loigic" you aint got shit room to talk about to logic

in your "logic" a scumteam claims with one another on day 1

OH BUT WAIT, ALL THE SCUM TEAMS EXCEPT THAT ONE HAVE TWO PEOPLE INSTEAD OF THREE

nevermind the fact that if one of us died, the other is confirmed scum

That's exactly when YnB claimed friendly neighbor as scum.

[Titus]

TPTG, We don't have any more investigatives. They are all vanillas now if you believe Death.

[Titus]

Can you stop with the AtE? Please. The more you flail, the less I believe you. Town realize that no one is conftown but bodies or mod confirmed townies (in the case of ChiVi). You aren't either.

The fact I've seen this song and dance before is gravy.

AP and Cabd pulled doctor and nurse (backup doc). Changing the flavor is irrelevant.

InuYasha had one scum confirm the other, in multiball.

So yeah, it's possible you're scum.

Suicide, what the fuck? That's absurd. You're not a horrible person. Just sub out. I'll find the replacement myself if I have to.

[Titus]

Gee, how is it arrogant to want you sane and healthy? :S

I want you to be ok. Take some time. It's twilight. I can polish off my VCA. You can take a chill pill. Night phase will hit. We can cool down and then discuss things like rational adults. No threats. No AtE. I'll lay it out there why it's unlikely you're town FMPOV. You can then respond in a nice neat orderly fashion.

[Titus]

can we fucking not do this

You have seen InuYasha... tell me this isn't history repeating itself?

[Titus]

Titus just stop. It's absolutely absurd to say "X happened in some prior game I played, ergo that must be what is happening in this game". What happened in that game cannot in any way influence this game, except apparently that you seem to think mafia games somehow magically repeat.

It's possible that TPTG and TF are exactly what they claim. It's possible they're not. No matter what they have, it won't have anything at all to do with that prior game.

It is possible and I want to have a rational dialogue about it.

TPTG failed my gambit.
TPTG has a claim that mirrors existing scum histories I have seen.

It's not magical to want to discuss a possibility of something being true.

You all are acting like this is impossible because TPTG says its impossible. No it's not.

If no one actually believes me after a rational discussion, GG we lose again.

It's incredibly frustrating to watch history repeat itself again. I figured it was because I was being to yelly but nope. It's because LOL Masons can't be questioned.

[Titus]

do you think their play is scummy

cause to me it just reads as "I'M GOING TO DOUBT THE CLAIM CAUSE ONE TIME IT FUCKED ME OVER"

not to mention we just lynched literally two scum

if it was like 5 players and we seemed out of options for who could be scum I'd understand your suspicion

but like

that's not the case

We lynched two scum because one of them I pushed.

Yet, you act as if I'm the crazy one.

It has fucked me over before, so yes I want more than they are masons.

[Titus]

How long am I supposed to wait to have a rational discussion?

[Titus]

No. But you would want a rational discussion when you've seen scummy behavior. It is not auto scum, but you aren't confirmed town.

The fact you won't even acknowledge that suspecting you is rational given what I've seen is ridiculous.

[Titus]

I'm hardly discarding the gamestate.

You weren't attempted to be shot at. The only missing kills were lurking wolves. Masons not being shot at is a red flag to me.
We're missing at least 2 scums.
I've seen this pattern before.
No one can give me a reason why TPTG is town beyond claiming Mason.
TPTG did not want to vote Pirate Ika after the guilty despite Pirate ika voting him earlier.
Right as we get close and ChiVi claims doctor, TPTG figures out a way to explain the two masons in lylo because wham they are suddenly doctors.
Doctors who always thought of their survival over House that could generate even more conftowns.
Everything they've done has been motivated by their survival.
Is it really a coincidence that Lucian, someone hard townreading me, would be shot over Death and Boonskiies, investigators who can generate even more confirmed towns to break this game wide open?
Pirate ika knows about my VCA and would love to throw it off, thinking its simplistic. He votes TPTG, not a coincidence. Pirate ika never pushes this vote at all, and keeps it on just long enough to be seen on the vote counts.
TPTG has not interacted with Pirate ika with anything that looks like scumhunting.
Their reaction to Ozgin's guilty was to immediately discredit Ozgin. (#2700). The other head (kuribo) says that one of the two has to die. Not exactly a scum push on ika. (2713)
Their interaction to that point is jovial.
It reads like TPTG was testing the waters to see if they could discredit Ozgin, when they couldn't then kuribo comes in and cleans it up.


Pirate ika was hard attacking kuribo out of nowhere.

Cerebus had the masons as null in 3266, and in 3307 TPTG responds by calling them scummy.

Cerebus was shot after I pushed them to verify which game BBMolla was in. If they were hypothetically in the orange game, they'd be more likely than not clear. Yet, they couldn't have that happening.

[Titus]

Doctors who always thought of their survival over House that could generate even more conftowns.

we DID protect Ozgin N2

Then why were you saying you always protected yourself? Why did you stop protecting Ozgin/House to protect yourself again if he was valuable enough to protect on N2? Wouldn't his value just go up?

[Titus]

Or you shot him.

[Titus]

You've doubtcasted everyone who suspected you, but for PI who actually had a guilty on him. Your vote was one of obligation there.

Or you can actually grow up, and not whine about someone suspecting you.

[Titus]

Your play is highly immature.

You can't just accept I have a scumread on you based in reason so you nitpick.

[Titus]

It's you or Drixx. I'd bet my life on it. Given no one trying to shoot you, you actually make more sense.

Drixx's nonsense is actually supported by the VCA given how the wolves went after him.

[Titus]

So he probably isn't lying about his BP status at least.

[Titus]

If it's a delayed nightkill, it shouldn't matter when House died. If he was shot N2 to die D3, then the doc protect should have worked no?

[Titus]

*sshrug* I'll do my VCA and reveal it first thing.

[Titus]

If it's a delayed nightkill, it shouldn't matter when House died. If he was shot N2 to die D3, then the doc protect should have worked no?

...If it's a delayed kill, why would it work the day they targeted him?

And if the target is submitted at night, but dies at the end of the following day?

[Titus]

To be clear

Submit kill N2, Doc should heal N2, Vic dies at the end of day 3. That's how I've seen a delayed NK work but it's VERY rare so...

[Titus]

Doctors should protect against all kills in a given night. No one's claimed a specific type of doctor. Generally doctors stop all kills unless otherwise specified.

[Titus]

Arguendo, even if I'm wrong and the mafia team submits a day kill to kill someone at the end of the day, thereby bypassing doctor interference, then the fact that the masons did not flip is even more suspicious as scum would not need to worry about a doctor.

[Titus]

But the werewolves were lurking, so they didn't even submit a kill under any theory.

[Titus]

Arguendo, even if I'm wrong and the mafia team submits a day kill to kill someone at the end of the day, thereby bypassing doctor interference, then the fact that the masons did not flip is even more suspicious as scum would not need to worry about a doctor.

At least, that particular person/faction wouldn't. Any other team/3rd party with a kill would.

Right. Logically though TPTG and TF cannot be werewolves or volcanoes, so that's eliminated. Volcanoes incinerate (which has stopped since the orange flipped), werewolves eviserate, which will stop tonight.

That leaves the day flip.

[Titus]

Yes, the remaining faction is the red, which does the day kill.

@Bulba, yes we do. Use common sense.

[Titus]

Those deaths aren't coming back.

The setup is 3/2/2/

[Titus]

Logic tells you that.

It's two games smushed together.
Having a four player scumteam in one and a 2 v 2 in another is ridiculous.

We have three scumteams with at least six scum total. No game can have more than four scum, as the individual game would be ridiculously scumsided.
Only three kills limits to three killing scum factions.
No alignment changes means no cult.

The result is 3/2/2.

We can bicker about which faction has the three, but that's the only setup that makes sense given this is two games smushed together.

We know the volcanoes kill mysteriously vanished and the setup must be 3/2/2.

There's two left. They are both Berlin.

[Titus]

We'd see more kills if it was a 3/3/1/1 variant.

[Titus]

There's two left. They are both Berlin.

And how do we know Berlin isn't the 2-scum team?

Because there was a lot of shit thrown at Ozgin regarding his cop claim. Too many sources. TPTG being one.

The red team, despite having a guilty on them, has managed to stave off being lynched while the other teams have been lynched in rapid fire mode.

[Titus]

just... stop engaging

Titus doesn't understand the concept of her being wrong

When I'm proven wrong, I admit it.

Yet, no one understands when I'm right.

I'm trying to be civil and patient to not repeat the past, but this is frustrating.

[Titus]

There's two left. They are both Berlin.

And how do we know Berlin isn't the 2-scum team?

Because there was a lot of shit thrown at Ozgin regarding his cop claim. Too many sources. TPTG being one.

The red team, despite having a guilty on them, has managed to stave off being lynched while the other teams have been lynched in rapid fire mode.

Oh and the obvious, incinerate is missing.

There will be no incinerate and no eviscerate.

[Titus]

you could be right

but you're expressing what you have to say in an incredibly irritating and arrogant way

Now, that is what I have been waiting for.

Just a rational thing. I'm not asking you to totally say gee you're right I'm scum. GG Titus you're the best ever.

I just want people to understand and articulate the case for my inevitable mislynch and protect my fucking townreads.

[Titus]

Yes, no one wants to hear they are wrong.

I get that. Even I don't like it. What am I supposed to do, sit on my hands? That's really effective in getting widely townread scum lynched.

[Titus]

Yet, no one understands when I'm right.

you aren't proven right yet, though?

You may or may not have strong evidence to support you, but you aren't proven yet. So stop acting like you are.

There's two states. Right or wrong. I can have doubt, but I really don't here. Should I lie and say I do? Would that make me more likable? Or just easier to tear this apart?

In my world, any doubt at all, and my clients get convicted. That's the real world.

[Titus]

Doctors who always thought of their survival over House that could generate even more conftowns.
Everything they've done has been motivated by their survival.

So when

you

have a plan that you think will break the game and guarantee a win, it's okay for you to do whatever you want ... but if they actually have a way to give the town an edge, if not an game breaking winstate ... they're totally scummy?

It's you or Drixx. I'd bet my life on it.

You probably shouldn't ever bet your life on anything in a mafia game.

*sshrug* I'll do my VCA and reveal it first thing.

So you

KNOW

you're going to be alive to post it? Interdesting.

The only scumteams that would kill me are you and TPTG. Yet, if you kill me, it'll be obvious. So yeah, I'm relatively confident I'll be alive.

[Titus]

drixx and titus elaborately bussing over the course of the entire game

boy that would be the scum play of the century

You have never seen me actually roll scum have you?

[Titus]

That's what we all pretend and tell each other. Yet everyone empaneled thinks the defendant did it or otherwise no trial would be happening. There's nice theory we tell ourselves, and then there's reality.

As for the other thing, it absolutely is a reason.

[Titus]

I come here to get better at selling the truth to juries, but all I find here is people love hearing what they already want to believe. Defending people in mafia is a lot easier than actually getting a case followed. *shrug*

If I have to defend everyone else, I will.

[Titus]

95+ percent of cases do not actually go to trial. A lot of my work is sentence management. Your client will have to pay, it's just how.

For those select few who want a trial, you can't show doubt. I've gotten some acquittals but you cannot show doubt. If you even hint that it's possible, your client will be convicted. This doesn't mean the cop is always the villian or that that is the best tactic. Notice, I'm not demonizing everyone who disagrees with me.

Still even then, juries are wierd things.

[Titus]

There's not much of a difference. Either I'm certain and people don't like it, thus jackass. Or not.

I'm not yelling. I'm not cursing. I'm just stating that TPTG is scum.

[Titus]

Death stop this. You are town most likely.

The Incinerate kills stopped last night. (Volcanoes)
The nuked from orbits have continued. (Berlin)
Werewolves will stop. (eviscerate)

It's 3 Berlin.

[Titus]

Fucking F.

[Titus]

God fucking damn it.

[Titus]

I'm going to look over this and find the flaw.

[Titus]

Don't trust anything scum say. Scum 101 play until the flip.

[Titus]

The night is only 24 hours in this game. I don't know how much shorter you want it.

Titus, we are town. As has been explained more than once, there isn't even a way for us to be scum consistent with your setup specs. Look elsewhere, k?

I will look where my analysis tells me.

[Titus]

Titus, when you do your VCA, can you explain things like "____ is likely to be ____-aligned based on VCA because _____" it doesn't have to be a long reason but it would help me follow along.

I always do.

[Titus]

@Plotinus, Scum can always craft their own fakeclaim, even if the mod doesn't give them one.

Also, you're reading me backwards. Despite my confidence on TPTG scum based on behavior, if the VCA eventually winds up clearing them, trust THAT first. I'm much better with VCA than behavior.

[Titus]

@Drixx/TPTG, You know generally people like me as scum. I let town run around and kill itself while letting them enjoy the sounds of their own wrong voices. If I'm repeatedly, consistently saying someone is scum and they aren't dead, it's a pretty obvious indicator I'm town if I'm making cases.

I have never, ever pulled off a drama bus. The closest I came to a long term tunnel bus is a game where I just begged people to lynch my buddy for reasons. The SK and Vig shot us both in the same night though. *cries*

[Titus]

The masons are conftown.

Time to reset and do VCA now.

[Titus]

Know what?

I'm only to 234, I haven't read in detail the claims (though I've inferred the details), but I feel good enough to say this.

deathfisaro

looks

like scum, but could be town...
Drixx is probably scum...
...But Plotinus is just scum.
He's not the one I want to talk about, though.

Titus is not townposting.
Her VCA is empty, her stubbornness is not towndriven stubbornness, this is her in Hilariously Unbalanced 2, rather than her in, say, Inu-Yasha. And, yes. I can in fact tell the difference.

I also have a gut-townread on Orange Crush for what it's worth.

My VCA hasn't appeared, so of course it's empty. LS

And no you can't.

[Titus]

Spoiler: Revised Colored Vote Counts for VCA

Vote Count 1.01

vonflare

(2)

- Narninian,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Three-Pronged Trouser God

(2)

-

vonflare

,

Pirate Ika

copper223

(1)

- Plotinus

Plotinus (1)

-

Toon Fighter

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

-

copper223

PeregrineV

(1)

- BRantz

Magua

(1)

- Oranje Crush

Oranje Crush (1)

-

Jackel98

Boonskiies (1)

- deathfisaro

deathfisaro (1)

- Drixx

Pirate Ika

(1)

-

Magua

ChriVi

(1)

-

LucianRoy

Not Voting (11)

:

House

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies,

PeregrineV

,

Cerberus v666

,

Marquis

,

VysePresident

,

elusive

, Titus,

Lihin

, BBmolla

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Vote Count 1.02

Three-Pronged Trouser God

(2)

-

vonflare

,

Pirate Ika

Marquis

(2)

- BRantz,

Toon Fighter

Drixx (2)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth,

elusive

Pirate Ika

(2)

-

Magua

, BBmolla

vonflare

(1)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

-

copper223

Magua

(1)

- Oranje Crush

Oranje Crush (1)

-

Jackel98

Boonskiies (1)

- deathfisaro

deathfisaro (1)

- Drixx

ChriVi

(1)

-

LucianRoy

BRantz (1)

- Plotinus

BBmolla (1)

- Narninian

Not Voting (8)

:

House

,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies,

PeregrineV

,

Cerberus v666

,

Marquis

,

VysePresident

, Titus,

Lihin

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Cop sanity is guaranteed.

Vote Count 1.03

Drixx (4)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth,

Pirate Ika

, BBmolla, Boonskiies

Marquis

(3)

- BRantz,

Toon Fighter

, Drixx

Magua

(2)

-

Cerberus v666

, Oranje Crush

Oranje Crush (2)

-

Jackel98

,

vonflare

BRantz (2)

- Plotinus,

elusive

Pirate Ika

(1)

-

Magua

vonflare

(1)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

-

copper223

ChriVi

(1)

-

LucianRoy

Toon Fighter

(1)

-

Marquis

BBmolla (1)

-

House

Not Voting (6)

:

ChriVi

,

PeregrineV

,

VysePresident

, Titus,

Lihin

, Narninian, deathfisaro

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

@Mod - Does the lynched person get to talk in twilight?

Yes.

Vote Count 1.04

vonflare

(5)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

, Plotinus,

Pirate Ika

,

elusive

, BBmolla

Marquis

(2)

- BRantz, Drixx

Magua

(2)

-

Cerberus v666

, Oranje Crush

Oranje Crush (2)

-

Jackel98

,

vonflare

Pirate Ika

(2)

-

Magua

,

copper223

Drixx (1)

-

Toon Fighter

LucianRoy

(1)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth

Toon Fighter

(1)

-

Marquis

House

(1)

- Boonskiies

Not Voting (8)

:

PeregrineV

,

VysePresident

, Titus,

Lihin

, Narninian, deathfisaro,

LucianRoy

,

ChriVi

,

House

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

PSA incoming.

Vote Count 1.05

vonflare

(7)

- Plotinus,

Pirate Ika

,

elusive

, BBmolla, BRantz,

House

,

ChriVi

Magua

(2)

-

Cerberus v666

, Oranje Crush

LucianRoy

(2)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx

Toon Fighter

(2)

-

Marquis

,

vonflare

VysePresident

(2)

-

copper223

,

Toon Fighter

House

(1)

- Boonskiies

Oranje Crush (1)

-

Jackel98

Pirate Ika

(1)

-

Magua

Not Voting (7)

:

PeregrineV

,

VysePresident

, Titus,

Lihin

, Narninian, deathfisaro,

LucianRoy

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Narninian and

Jackel98

have been prodded.

Vote Count 1.06

VysePresident

(5)

-

copper223

,

Toon Fighter

,

ChriVi

, Narninian, deathfisaro

vonflare

(5)

- Plotinus,

Pirate Ika

, BRantz,

House

, Oranje Crush

LucianRoy

(2)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx

Toon Fighter

(2)

-

Marquis

,

vonflare

deathfisaro (2)

-

elusive

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Magua

(1)

-

Cerberus v666

Oranje Crush (1)

-

Jackel98

Titus (1)

-

Magua

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

- BBmolla

Not Voting (5)

:

PeregrineV

,

VysePresident

, Titus,

Lihin

,

LucianRoy

, Boonskiies

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Lihin

has declared V/LA for tech issues.

Vote Count 1.07

VysePresident

(5)

-

copper223

,

Toon Fighter

,

ChriVi

, Narninian, deathfisaro

vonflare

(5)

- Plotinus,

Pirate Ika

, BRantz,

House

,

Jackel98

LucianRoy

(4)

- Drixx, BBmolla, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Oranje Crush

Toon Fighter

(2)

-

Marquis

,

vonflare

deathfisaro (2)

-

elusive

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Magua

(1)

-

Cerberus v666

Titus (1)

-

Magua

Not Voting (5)

:

PeregrineV

,

VysePresident

, Titus,

Lihin

,

LucianRoy

, Boonskiies

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

PeregrineV

has been prodded.

Vote Count 1.08

vonflare

(6)

- Plotinus,

Pirate Ika

, BRantz,

House

,

Jackel98

, Boonskiies

VysePresident

(5)

-

copper223

,

Toon Fighter

,

ChriVi

, Narninian, deathfisaro

LucianRoy

(4)

- Drixx, BBmolla, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Oranje Crush

Toon Fighter

(2)

-

Marquis

,

vonflare

deathfisaro (2)

-

elusive

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Magua

(1)

-

Cerberus v666

Titus (1)

-

Magua

BRantz (1)

-

LucianRoy

Not Voting (3)

:

PeregrineV

,

VysePresident

, Titus,

Lihin

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Marquis

has replaced

Marquis

.

Searching for a replacement for

PeregrineV

.

Vote Count 1.09

vonflare

(5)

- Plotinus,

Pirate Ika

, BRantz,

House

,

Jackel98

Toon Fighter

(4)

-

Marquis

,

vonflare

,

Magua

, BBmolla

VysePresident

(3)

-

copper223

,

Toon Fighter

, deathfisaro

deathfisaro (2)

-

elusive

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

BRantz (2)

-

LucianRoy

, Narninian

LucianRoy

(1)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth

Magua

(1)

-

Cerberus v666

copper223

(1)

- Drixx

Plotinus (1)

-

ChriVi

Marquis

(1)

- Boonskiies

Not Voting (4)

:

PeregrineV

,

VysePresident

, Titus,

Lihin

, Oranje Crush

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Lihin

replaces

Lihin

. Welcome!

Titus has been prodded.

Guys if you also have kill powers, claim now.

II. Each faction and vigilante has its own kill flavour.

We could catch lucian with flavour:

Fixed.

Vote Count 1.10

Toon Fighter

(5)

-

Marquis

,

vonflare

,

Magua

, BBmolla,

Lihin

vonflare

(3)

- Plotinus, BRantz,

Jackel98

VysePresident

(3)

-

copper223

,

Toon Fighter

, deathfisaro

BRantz (2)

-

LucianRoy

, Narninian

Plotinus (2)

-

ChriVi

,

PeregrineV

Drixx (2)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

elusive

deathfisaro (1)

-

Pirate Ika

LucianRoy

(1)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth

Magua

(1)

-

Cerberus v666

Marquis

(1)

- Boonskiies

Jackel98

(1)

- Oranje Crush

Not Voting (3)

:

VysePresident

, Titus,

House

, Drixx

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Titus is being replaced.

Titus has replaced Titus.

Jackel98

has been unofficially prodded.

Vote Count 1.11

Jackel98

(7)

- Oranje Crush,

Magua

,

Cerberus v666

,

copper223

,

LucianRoy

,

Marquis

,

vonflare

vonflare

(3)

- Plotinus, BRantz,

Jackel98

Drixx (3)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

elusive

,

Toon Fighter

Plotinus (2)

-

ChriVi

,

PeregrineV

Toon Fighter

(1)

- BBmolla

VysePresident

(1)

- deathfisaro

BRantz (1)

- Narninian

deathfisaro (1)

-

Pirate Ika

LucianRoy

(1)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth

Marquis

(1)

- Boonskiies

Not Voting (4)

:

VysePresident

, Titus,

House

, Drixx,

Lihin

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Vote Count 1.12

Jackel98

(6)

- Oranje Crush,

Magua

,

Cerberus v666

,

vonflare

, deathfisaro, Bulbasaur Commonwealth

Drixx (5)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

elusive

,

Toon Fighter

, Plotinus,

LucianRoy

vonflare

(2)

- BRantz,

Jackel98

Plotinus (2)

-

ChriVi

,

PeregrineV

BRantz (2)

- Narninian,

VysePresident

Toon Fighter

(1)

- BBmolla

VysePresident

(1)

-

copper223

deathfisaro (1)

-

Pirate Ika

Marquis

(1)

- Boonskiies

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

-

Marquis

Not Voting (3)

: Titus,

House

, Drixx,

Lihin

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Vote Count 1.13

Drixx (6)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

Toon Fighter

, Plotinus,

LucianRoy

, Narninian,

Jackel98

Jackel98

(4)

-

Magua

,

vonflare

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx

BRantz (4)

-

VysePresident

,

Marquis

,

elusive

, Oranje Crush

Plotinus (2)

-

ChriVi

,

PeregrineV

VysePresident

(2)

-

copper223

, deathfisaro

vonflare

(1)

- BRantz

Toon Fighter

(1)

- BBmolla

deathfisaro (1)

-

Pirate Ika

Marquis

(1)

- Boonskiies

Not Voting (3)

: Titus,

House

,

Lihin

,

Cerberus v666

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Vote Count 1.14

BRantz (7)

-

VysePresident

,

Marquis

,

elusive

, Oranje Crush,

LucianRoy

, Narninian,

Jackel98

Jackel98

(4)

-

Magua

,

vonflare

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx

Drixx (3)

-

Toon Fighter

, Plotinus, Boonskiies

BBmolla (3)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

copper223

,

ChriVi

Plotinus (2)

-

ChriVi

,

PeregrineV

vonflare

(2)

- BRantz,

House

VysePresident

(1)

- deathfisaro

Toon Fighter

(1)

- BBmolla

deathfisaro (1)

-

Pirate Ika

Not Voting (2)

: Titus,

Lihin

,

Cerberus v666

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Lihin

has been prodded.

vonflare

has also been prodded, but since he has declared V/LA he will be replaced if he cannot respond within 48 hours, as per rule 14.

Vote Count 1.15

BRantz (9)

-

VysePresident

,

Marquis

,

elusive

, Oranje Crush,

LucianRoy

, Narninian,

Jackel98

,

vonflare

, Drixx

Drixx (3)

-

Toon Fighter

, Plotinus, Boonskiies

Jackel98

(2)

-

Magua

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth

BBmolla (2)

-

ChriVi

,

House

VysePresident

(2)

- deathfisaro,

copper223

Plotinus (1)

-

PeregrineV

vonflare

(1)

- BRantz

Toon Fighter

(1)

- BBmolla

deathfisaro (1)

-

Pirate Ika

Titus (0)

- Titus

Not Voting (3)

:

Lihin

,

Cerberus v666

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

BRantz has been prodded.

PeregrineV

is being replaced.

Vote Count 1.16

BBmolla (3)

-

ChriVi

,

House

, Plotinus

Drixx (2)

-

Toon Fighter

, Boonskiies

VysePresident

(2)

- deathfisaro,

copper223

Jackel98

(1)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth

Plotinus (1)

-

PeregrineV

Toon Fighter

(1)

- BBmolla

deathfisaro (1)

-

Pirate Ika

Titus (0)

- Titus

Not Voting (13)

:

Lihin

,

Cerberus v666

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

VysePresident

,

Marquis

,

elusive

, Oranje Crush,

LucianRoy

, Narninian,

Jackel98

,

vonflare

, Drixx,

Magua

With 24 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Vote Count 1.17

Jackel98

(13)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth, BBmolla,

House

,

Magua

,

Lihin

,

copper223

,

elusive

, Drixx,

Marquis

,

LucianRoy

, Oranje Crush,

VysePresident

,

Cerberus v666

PeregrineV

(6)

- Plotinus,

vonflare

,

Jackel98

,

Pirate Ika

, deathfisaro, Narninian

Drixx (2)

-

Toon Fighter

, Boonskiies

BBmolla (1)

-

ChriVi

Plotinus (1)

-

PeregrineV

Titus (0)

- Titus

Not Voting (1)

:

Three-Pronged Trouser God

With 24 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Mod - According to your rulesheet, does a non-majority lynch at deadline lead to a no-lynch? (Aka if the majority wagon is at 9 at DL, will that be a lynch or a no-lynch?)

Yes, you need 13 votes or there will be a no-lynch.

Vote Count 2.01

Oranje Crush (2)

- Narninian,

Toon Fighter

LucianRoy

(2)

-

elusive

, Drixx

Titus (1)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

copper223

(1)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth

Pirate Ika

(1)

-

House

House

(1)

- deathfisaro

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

-

VysePresident

Not Voting (16)

:

Pirate Ika

, Oranje Crush, Plotinus,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies,

PeregrineV

,

vonflare

,

Cerberus v666

, BRantz,

LucianRoy

,

Magua

, Titus,

Lihin

, BBmolla,

copper223

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-02 10:05:14).

@mod: is there a reason we can't have full flips?

Yes, giving full flips would be a significant balance shift that we did not plan for.

I've amended rule I to include the clause in parentheses:

I. This game will use no factions other than what is considered normal (town, mafia, werewolf and serial killer).

Vote Count 2.02

Pirate Ika

(4)

- Narninian,

House

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

, Oranje Crush

LucianRoy

(2)

-

elusive

, Drixx

Oranje Crush (1)

-

Toon Fighter

copper223

(1)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth

House

(1)

-

Pirate Ika

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

-

VysePresident

Cerberus v666

(1)

-

Magua

Not Voting (14)

: Plotinus,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies,

PeregrineV

,

vonflare

,

Cerberus v666

, BRantz,

LucianRoy

, Titus,

Lihin

, BBmolla,

copper223

, deathfisaro

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-02 10:05:14).

Pirate Ika

-

Berlin Undercity Mafia Modified Roleblocker

- Shot through the heart day two.

----------

Vote Count 2.03

LucianRoy

(3)

-

elusive

, Drixx,

Cerberus v666

Oranje Crush (1)

-

Toon Fighter

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

-

VysePresident

Cerberus v666

(1)

-

Magua

Not Voting (18)

: Plotinus,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies,

PeregrineV

,

vonflare

, BRantz,

LucianRoy

, Titus,

Lihin

, BBmolla,

copper223

, deathfisaro, Narninian,

House

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

, Oranje Crush, Bulbasaur Commonwealth

With 24 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-02 10:05:14).

BRantz has been removed from the game.

Vote Count 2.04

Lihin

(7)

- Oranje Crush,

LucianRoy

,

Cerberus v666

, Drixx,

elusive

, Boonskiies, deathfisaro

Oranje Crush (3)

-

Toon Fighter

, BBmolla, Narninian

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

-

VysePresident

Cerberus v666

(1)

-

Magua

Not Voting (11)

: Plotinus,

ChriVi

,

PeregrineV

,

vonflare

, Titus,

Lihin

,

copper223

,

House

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth

With 23 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-02 10:05:14).

Lihin

has been prodded.

Removal of players during the day phase will not reduce the lynch threshold.

Vote Count 2.05

Lihin

(5)

-

Cerberus v666

,

elusive

, Boonskiies, deathfisaro, Oranje Crush

Oranje Crush (4)

-

Toon Fighter

, BBmolla, Narninian,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

copper223

(2)

-

copper223

,

VysePresident

Drixx (2)

- Titus

Cerberus v666

(1)

-

Magua

vonflare

(1)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth

Titus (1)

- Drixx

Not Voting (7)

: Plotinus,

ChriVi

,

PeregrineV

,

vonflare

,

Lihin

,

House

,

LucianRoy

With 23 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-02 10:05:14).

@mod: is the votecount quoted above correct?

All vote counts are correct.

Vote Count 2.06

Lihin

(8)

-

Cerberus v666

,

elusive

, Boonskiies, deathfisaro, Oranje Crush, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Narninian, Drixx

Oranje Crush (4)

-

Toon Fighter

, BBmolla,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

LucianRoy

copper223

(2)

-

copper223

,

VysePresident

Drixx (2)

- Titus

Cerberus v666

(1)

-

Magua

Boonskiies (1)

-

ChriVi

Not Voting (5)

: Plotinus,

PeregrineV

,

vonflare

,

Lihin

,

House

With 23 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-02 10:05:14).

Vote Count 2.07

Lihin

(9)

-

Cerberus v666

,

elusive

, Boonskiies, deathfisaro, Oranje Crush, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Narninian, Drixx,

LucianRoy

Oranje Crush (3)

-

Toon Fighter

, BBmolla,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Drixx (2)

- Titus

VysePresident

(2)

-

PeregrineV

,

copper223

copper223

(1)

-

VysePresident

Cerberus v666

(1)

-

Magua

Boonskiies (1)

-

ChriVi

Not Voting (4)

: Plotinus,

vonflare

,

Lihin

,

House

With 23 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-02 10:05:14).

elusive

has been prodded.

Vote Count 2.08

Lihin

(12)

-

Cerberus v666

,

elusive

, Boonskiies, deathfisaro, Oranje Crush, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Narninian, Drixx,

LucianRoy

,

ChriVi

,

VysePresident

,

House

Oranje Crush (3)

-

Toon Fighter

, BBmolla,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Drixx (2)

- Titus

VysePresident

(2)

-

PeregrineV

,

copper223

Cerberus v666

(1)

-

Magua

Not Voting (3)

: Plotinus,

vonflare

,

Lihin

With 23 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-02 10:05:14).

Plotinus and

Lihin

have been prodded.

Vote Count 2.09

Lihin

(13)

-

Cerberus v666

,

elusive

, Boonskiies, deathfisaro, Oranje Crush, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Narninian, Drixx,

LucianRoy

,

ChriVi

,

VysePresident

,

House

,

Toon Fighter

Oranje Crush (2)

- BBmolla,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Drixx (2)

- Titus

VysePresident

(2)

-

PeregrineV

,

copper223

Cerberus v666

(1)

-

Magua

Not Voting (3)

: Plotinus,

vonflare

,

Lihin

With 23 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-02 10:05:14).

----------

Lihin

-

Town Double Day Foreman

- Lynched day two.

Magua

-

Town Forgetful Watcher

- Nuked from orbit day two.

It is now twilight. Twilight deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-27 09:32:32). Please submit your night actions now if you have them.

Day two begins in (expired on 2015-03-28 09:32:32).

copper223

-

Town Facebooker

- Eviscerated night two.

VysePresident

-

Tropical Volcano Lair Mafia ???

- Incinerated night two.

BRantz has returned to the game.

----------

Vote Count 3.00

Not Voting (18)

: Narninian,

Toon Fighter

, Oranje Crush,

House

, Plotinus,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies, Drixx,

PeregrineV

,

vonflare

,

Cerberus v666

, BRantz,

LucianRoy

, deathfisaro,

elusive

, Titus, BBmolla

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Vote Count 3.01

Oranje Crush (3)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

, BBmolla,

Toon Fighter

BBmolla (2)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Narninian

Boonskiies (1)

- Plotinus

Not Voting (12)

: Oranje Crush,

House

,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies, Drixx,

PeregrineV

,

vonflare

,

Cerberus v666

, BRantz,

LucianRoy

, deathfisaro,

elusive

, Titus

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Vote Count 3.02

Oranje Crush (3)

- BBmolla,

Toon Fighter

,

vonflare

BBmolla (2)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Narninian

Boonskiies (1)

- Plotinus

vonflare

(1)

- Oranje Crush

deathfisaro (1)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

- deathfisaro

Not Voting (9)

:

House

,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies, Drixx,

PeregrineV

,

Cerberus v666

, BRantz,

LucianRoy

,

elusive

, Titus

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Vote Count 3.03

Oranje Crush (3)

- BBmolla,

vonflare

, Narninian

Boonskiies (2)

- Plotinus, Bulbasaur Commonwealth

deathfisaro (2)

-

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

Toon Fighter

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

- deathfisaro

elusive

(1)

- Oranje Crush

Not Voting (9)

:

House

,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies, Drixx,

PeregrineV

,

Cerberus v666

, BRantz,

LucianRoy

,

elusive

, Titus

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

House

, Plotinus,

ChriVi

,

elusive

and BRantz have been prodded.

Vote Count 3.04

Oranje Crush (4)

- BBmolla, Narninian,

vonflare

,

LucianRoy

deathfisaro (3)

-

Toon Fighter

, Oranje Crush,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Boonskiies (2)

- Plotinus, Bulbasaur Commonwealth

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

- deathfisaro

elusive

(1)

- Drixx

Not Voting (7)

:

House

,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies,

PeregrineV

,

Cerberus v666

, BRantz,

elusive

, Titus

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

elusive

and

House

are being replaced.

Vote Count 3.05

Oranje Crush (5)

- BBmolla, Narninian,

vonflare

,

LucianRoy

, deathfisaro

deathfisaro (3)

-

Toon Fighter

, Oranje Crush,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Boonskiies (2)

- Plotinus, Bulbasaur Commonwealth

vonflare

(2)

- BRantz,

PeregrineV

elusive

(1)

- Drixx

Not Voting (5)

:

House

,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies,

Cerberus v666

,

elusive

, Titus

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

elusive

and

House

are being replaced.

Plotinus has been prodded.

Vote Count 3.06

deathfisaro (6)

-

Toon Fighter

, Oranje Crush, Bulbasaur Commonwealth,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

, Drixx, deathfisaro

Oranje Crush (4)

- BBmolla, Narninian,

vonflare

,

LucianRoy

Boonskiies (2)

- Plotinus,

Cerberus v666

vonflare

(2)

- BRantz,

PeregrineV

Not Voting (4)

:

House

,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies,

elusive

, Titus

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

elusive

is being replaced.

House

replaces

House

. Thank you!

Vote Count 3.07

deathfisaro (7)

-

Toon Fighter

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

, Titus,

LucianRoy

,

House

, BRantz, Oranje Crush

Oranje Crush (2)

- BBmolla,

vonflare

Boonskiies (2)

- Plotinus,

Cerberus v666

Titus (2)

- Drixx, Boonskiies

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

-

PeregrineV

BBmolla (1)

- Narninian

Not Voting (3)

:

ChriVi

,

elusive

, deathfisaro

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

elusive

, Plotinus and

vonflare

are being replaced.

ChriVi

is V/LA and will not be prodded.

Vote Count 3.08

deathfisaro (6)

-

Toon Fighter

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Titus,

LucianRoy

, BRantz, Oranje Crush,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Oranje Crush (2)

- BBmolla,

vonflare

Boonskiies (2)

- Plotinus,

Cerberus v666

Titus (2)

- Drixx, Boonskiies

BBmolla (2)

- Narninian, deathfisaro

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

-

PeregrineV

Cerberus v666

(1)

-

House

House

(1)

-

ChriVi

Not Voting (1)

:

elusive

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

elusive

, Plotinus and

vonflare

are being replaced.

@mod: if a cop was role blocked, would they recieve a pm saying no result?

Yes.

Vote Count 3.09

Titus (7)

- Drixx, Boonskiies,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

Toon Fighter

, BBmolla,

Cerberus v666

, Oranje Crush

Drixx (6)

-

ChriVi

, Narninian,

House

, BRantz,

LucianRoy

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth

BBmolla (1)

- deathfisaro, Titus

Oranje Crush (1)

-

vonflare

Boonskiies (1)

- Plotinus

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

-

PeregrineV

Not Voting (1)

:

elusive

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Deadline is suspended while I search for replacements.

elusive

, Plotinus,

vonflare

and Titus are being replaced.

It is possible that some roles were altered for balance after the 13p games were combined if the role(s) would have resulted in a severe balance issue. Otherwise, the roles were left intact.

Vote Count 3.10

BBmolla (4)

- deathfisaro, Titus,

Cerberus v666

, Narninian, BBmolla

Drixx (3)

-

ChriVi

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth,

Toon Fighter

Titus (2)

- Drixx, Boonskiies

Plotinus (2)

-

PeregrineV

,

House

Oranje Crush (1)

-

vonflare

Boonskiies (1)

- Plotinus

Not Voting (5)

:

elusive

, Oranje Crush,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

LucianRoy

, BRantz

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Deadline is suspended while I search for replacements.

elusive

replaces

elusive

. Welcome!

Plotinus and

vonflare

are being replaced.

Vote Count 3.11

Plotinus (5)

-

PeregrineV

,

LucianRoy

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

BBmolla (4)

- deathfisaro, Titus,

Cerberus v666

, Narninian, BBmolla

Drixx (2)

-

ChriVi

,

Toon Fighter

Titus (1)

- Boonskiies

Oranje Crush (1)

-

vonflare

Boonskiies (1)

- Plotinus

Not Voting (4)

:

elusive

, Oranje Crush, BRantz,

House

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Deadline is suspended while I search for replacements.

Plotinus and

vonflare

are being replaced.

Vote Count 3.12

Plotinus (6)

-

PeregrineV

,

LucianRoy

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

elusive

BBmolla (4)

- deathfisaro, Titus,

Cerberus v666

, Narninian, BBmolla

Drixx (2)

-

ChriVi

,

Toon Fighter

Titus (1)

- Boonskiies

Oranje Crush (1)

-

vonflare

Boonskiies (1)

- Plotinus

Not Voting (3)

: Oranje Crush,

House

, BRantz

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Deadline is suspended while I search for replacements.

Plotinus and

vonflare

are being replaced.

Vote Count 3.13

Plotinus (6)

-

PeregrineV

,

LucianRoy

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

elusive

BBmolla (4)

- deathfisaro, Titus,

Cerberus v666

, Narninian, BBmolla

Drixx (2)

-

ChriVi

,

Toon Fighter

Titus (1)

- Boonskiies

Oranje Crush (1)

-

vonflare

Boonskiies (1)

- Plotinus

Not Voting (3)

: Oranje Crush,

House

, BRantz

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Deadline is suspended while I search for replacements.

Plotinus and

vonflare

are being replaced.

Due to receiving outside influence, T-Bone has been forcibly ejected from the game. His other two hydra partners may continue to post normally.

Vote Count 3.14

Plotinus (4)

-

PeregrineV

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

BBmolla (3)

- deathfisaro, Titus,

Cerberus v666

, BBmolla

Drixx (2)

-

ChriVi

,

Toon Fighter

Oranje Crush (2)

-

vonflare

, Narninian

Titus (1)

- Boonskiies

Boonskiies (1)

- Plotinus

Narninian (1)

-

House

Not Voting (4)

: Oranje Crush, BRantz,

elusive

,

LucianRoy

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Deadline is suspended while I search for replacements.

Plotinus replaces Plotinus. Thank you!

vonflare

is being replaced.

Vote Count 3.15

vonflare

(8)

- Oranje Crush, BRantz, Plotinus,

House

, Narninian, BBmolla,

ChriVi

,

Cerberus v666

Plotinus (4)

-

PeregrineV

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

BBmolla (1)

- deathfisaro, Titus

Drixx (1)

-

Toon Fighter

Oranje Crush (1)

-

vonflare

Titus (1)

- Boonskiies

Not Voting (2)

:

elusive

,

LucianRoy

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Deadline is suspended while I search for replacements.

vonflare

is being replaced.

Vote Count 3.16

vonflare

(10)

- Oranje Crush, BRantz, Plotinus, Narninian, BBmolla,

ChriVi

,

Cerberus v666

, deathfisaro, Boonskiies, Bulbasaur Commonwealth

Plotinus (3)

-

PeregrineV

, Drixx,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Drixx (1)

-

Toon Fighter

Oranje Crush (1)

-

vonflare

Cerberus v666

(1)

-

House

BBmolla (0)

- Titus

Not Voting (2)

:

elusive

,

LucianRoy

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Deadline is suspended while I search for replacements.

Vote Count 4.01

elusive

(4)

- deathfisaro, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Oranje Crush, BRantz

Drixx (1)

-

ChriVi

BBmolla (1)

- Narninian

Not Voting (11)

:

Toon Fighter

, Plotinus,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

, Boonskiies, Drixx,

PeregrineV

,

LucianRoy

,

elusive

, Titus, BBmolla

With 17 votes in play, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-01 16:23:15).

Vote Count 4.02

elusive

(8)

- deathfisaro, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Oranje Crush, BRantz, BBmolla, Plotinus, Boonskiies,

LucianRoy

BBmolla (5)

- Narninian,

Toon Fighter

, Drixx, Titus

Not Voting (4)

:

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

PeregrineV

,

elusive

,

ChriVi

With 17 votes in play, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-01 16:23:15).

Vote Count 4.03

elusive

(9)

- deathfisaro, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Oranje Crush, BRantz, BBmolla, Plotinus, Boonskiies,

LucianRoy

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

BBmolla (5)

- Narninian,

Toon Fighter

, Drixx, Titus

Not Voting (3)

:

PeregrineV

,

elusive

,

ChriVi

With 17 votes in play, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-01 16:23:15).

----------

elusive

-

Indigo Tourmaline Werewolf Avatar of Lycanthropy

- Lynched day four.

LucianRoy

-

Town One-Shot Vengilante

- Nuked from orbit day four.

----------

Vote Count 5.00

Not Voting (13)

: Narninian,

Toon Fighter

, Oranje Crush, Plotinus,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

, Bulbasaur Commonwealth,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies, Drixx,

PeregrineV

, BRantz, deathfisaro, Titus, BBmolla

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-02 10:26:22).

Vote Count 5.01

PeregrineV

(6)

- Oranje Crush, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Plotinus, BRantz, BBmolla, Narninian

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

- Drixx

Not Voting (6)

:

Toon Fighter

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

,

ChriVi

, Boonskiies,

PeregrineV

, deathfisaro, Titus

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-02 10:26:22).

Vote Count 5.02

PeregrineV

(7)

- Oranje Crush, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Plotinus, BRantz, BBmolla, Narninian,

ChriVi

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

- Drixx

Not Voting (5)

:

Toon Fighter

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

, Boonskiies,

PeregrineV

, deathfisaro, Titus

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-02 10:26:22).

----------

PeregrineV

-

Indigo Tourmaline Werewolf Modified Bulletproof

- Lynched day five.

It is now twilight five. Twilight will end in (expired on 2015-04-20 12:31:32).

Night five will end and day six will begin in (expired on 2015-04-21 12:31:32).

Day 1, we had three end of day wagons. Drixx, PV and Jackal. PV flipped scum. Jackal flipped town. ika refused to vote any of the major wagons day 1 and instead tried to force a new wagon. Odd. Major negative points to Drixx. The only time I've ever seen ika derail lol wagons was as scum. I should have seen that before but I was blinded by him working with me.

1.03 suggests that Drixx and BC are not likely red scum together.
1.05 both of them following onto the same town wagon reads off to me. Why, if they were both fighting, would they then be next to each other.
1.13 has a very town heavy wagon on Drixx.
Then that wagon dismantles when the back end jumps to Brantz, which has a very scumloaded front wagon. If Drixx has a partner, Narninian looks like a major suspect from this.

Boonskiies, deathfisaro, Oranje Crush, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Narninian, Drixx <-- None of those players on Lihin's wagon have flipped. That's frightening.

Plotinus spends a lot of time voting outed cops. That's also disconcerting. He voted Brantz frequently when he could remove himself from the game.

1.08 is the most interesting of all.

If orange has daychat, it suggests scum were colluding not to bus as neither vonflare nor Vyse were voting each other.

If that's the case then one of Drixx, BBmolla, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Oranje Crush must be the orange partner.
3.02 suggests not Orange Crush as he and vonflare were going after each other well before his wagon had serious momentum.

So that leaves BB, Drixx and BC as orange.
2.01 where Vyse votes BC and BC voting copper suggests that Vyse and BC are not likely partners. Vyse wanted copper dead most of the game, bussing a partner there which would undermine his push on someone the team wanted dead makes little sense.

So we're down to BB and Drixx.
BB has had a lot of town wagons on him like 1.14.
Drixx was a counter to the known tracker .


Drixx, BB, OC/Narnian, Plotinus (gut here, needs more work). <--- That would be my lynch order.

[Titus]

My VCA still needs polishing but that's what jumps at me.

[Titus]

I protected TTTG. So if somehow a team had two kills, they were probably trying to kill off the mason team entirely.

And yes TTTG, cross protection sounds good to me.

@EVERYONE: Give me scumreads and townreads. Null reads are not accepted at fucking page 242.

This should be done

before

boonskiies and death or any other investigator outs results.

[Titus]

@All, is it just me, or does Plotinus just ping the gut wrong?

VOTE: Drixx

[Titus]

Narnian, you didn't even mention Plot...

[Titus]

Wow, you claim my VCA was empty.
I post my VCA.
No response.

If you did, you'd realize my VCA leads to similar conclusions.

[Titus]

Yeah, that new information doesn't relate to Drixx's alignment at all. Being wrong one place doesn't make me more or less right anywhere else.

[Titus]

Never.
This is the time where town-Titus shines.
Kinda like why I'm so good at this stage, too.

Right. And I am. I've got a pool. Drixx flip should do a lot to narrow that pool down, regardless of whether I'm right or wrong.

Plot just feels wrong, so I'm not objecting there.

[Titus]

Drixx, BB, OC/Narnian, Plotinus (gut here, needs more work). <--- That would be my lynch order.

Plus BC.

That's the scum pool. Right in there. I never wanted to lynch BC because I like what they've posted but the sudden 180 on me is a little frightening.

[Titus]

I redirected from trouser god to Bulbasaur
as always, no idea if it actually did anything.

Why would you redirect someone who was asking for doc protection?

Btw toon protected us last night too

I asked him to protect chrvi, he said that his role pm states he loses his doc protect if we die
I told him I wish he'd told me that weeks ago, so then he protected us instead

To wit: unknown number of missing kills last night--- if there were two factions killing me, it failed because I was double protected. We have no way of knowing how many kills were stopped.

I agree that Narninan's lack of redirect is startling.

Toss in the lack of a redirect from House, it is off.

[Titus]

VOTE: Plot

Yeah... don't think I pushed Bratz in my VCA.

[Titus]

BC, Really? We know Narninan redirected how?

If we had a doc circle, then the logical place for a kill redirect is on the unprotected mason. Then, it redirects to someone scummy. That didn't happen...

[Titus]

Then why is House dead?

[Titus]

Drixx will you knock this shit off? I don't respond well to AtE.

[Titus]

Are you spinning the wheel of fortune and just voting wherever it lands or something?

@Titus - I'm not appealing to emotion. I have rational reasons to feel that in the absence of a consensus scumread, I am a good information lynch. You have me rated as your most scummy read, but nary a vote from you on me can be found. Why is that?

The only other person who wants to vote you is my second behavioral scumread at this point. That's a good logical reason not to vote you.

I do think you're scum, but there's more than one left.

Despite what you do think of me, I do observe reactions. Plotinus does bother me. Him lapping up what I say like a dog is worrisome. So is everyone wanting to tear me down. I'm looking for a middle ground. Good dialogue.

[Titus]

This is exactly what TPTG's reaction looked like to me. Overblown because I was wrong.

[Titus]

Why couldn't PV be vengeful?

[Titus]

Yeah well, it looks like we're all messed up. I'm an aspie too (probably why I misread and I'm misread a lot partially) but it's not a crutch. If you're scumread, the onus is on you to figure out why and change it and explain it. I am trying to do that. People will see that I am largely ineffective communicating and receiving and tend not to notice real AtE versus scum AtE. People who work on my wavelength I like more because there is less concern about baggage.

Given your diagnosis as high functioning autistic, I should be seeing more strong opinions. Aspies have a strong sense of right and wrong, overblown some would say. Our emotions might not flow like most and we may miss it in others but playing here is a tool to improve.

I just don't see that conviction from you Plot.

[Titus]

I am not questioning the diagnosis. I am questioning whether he has a town PM in spite of it.

Bulletproof = Total permission to be loud and different
Aspie = By default different and strong convictions

Yes sure some people are different. That doesn't mean he is.

[Titus]

No. I am scumreading him due to the fact he should have strong feelings about who is scum but I am seeing more of a conviction to surprise.

There are hallmarkers of autism. That's one.

Stereotypical behavior, acitivities, and insane knowledge of technicial details are some others.

[Titus]

The first paragraph is relatable. You should stop saying it at all though. People will know that you're wierd/different/whatever based on getting to know you. You using this shortcut actually hurts. Some people have learned how to read me. I get in tunnels and I don't know why people feel the way they do, and tend to think fake when I see an over emotional response without a contextual reason behind it.

Yet, if you don't let yourself be vulnerable to the occasional mislynch, you'll never be correctly read but just the kid who uses his condition to guilt everyone else.

So I'm not doing that.

Put your reads out. Push em. You can't do worse than I've already done this game. Figure out what data works best to you, try to stick with that.

[Titus]

If you go look at the relationship thread you'll see I'm an emotional wreck since being cheated on.

But I'm pretty blessed to have everything else going really well in the rest of my life.

This is in the Speakeasy. You'll have to change a setting or two to get in I think. I forget.

[Titus]

If I'm wrong about Oranje Crush, he could tell me my theory sounds like it was concocted by a committee of drunken walruses or something, you know?

oh, i feel you. Mastin once said that my in-game rage and my actual rage are very different in tone--- the former is funny to her, the latter is ugly and unnecessary

I'd definitely say that alot of my posting towards Titus has been the latter in this game, which is one of the reasons i had retired

*shrug* I guess not understanding that emotion makes it less painful. I was more hurt that I couldn't understand why you were raging (I still don't) rather than you calling me names.

[Titus]

@Titus:

I don't mind being mislynched if it'll give us useful for info VCA or my flip will help confirm other people. I'd rather lynch scum tomorrow because I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop about the doctors thing, but barring that I'd like to lynch whoever's flip will give us the most information about the remaining slots. If that's me, cool.

And thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it -- wasn't expecting to receive any until the endgame, but it's more useful to me now while there are still things I can do about it.

You're welcome.

I'm not pushing an info lynch on day 7. Sorry. Bring me some scumreads if you want to work together.

[Titus]

Ok, I can see that.

Yet to someone who doesn't feel you are obviously town, it reeks of entitlement. I've done XYZ so why the hell aren't you townreading me. You're an idiot because you don't think like everyone else. Group think is very dangerous and frankly something I hate.

If you can understand that I work from the perspective that any answer universally regarded as true needs to be checked and verified rather than assumed to be true, I think you might understand my behavior more.

[Titus]

Without making a wall, chivri, trousers, and boon are conftown to me (the last because of deathfisaro's flip but i believe him before that). I'm townreading narninian at the moment because he's been really honest about his power and his choices, even when Marquis died he was honest about what happened.

i can't tell if i was townreading or experiencedreading oranje after his iso but deathfisaro did convince me of his theory about oranje and chivri saw something too (i wish she'd share it with the rest of the class). i might try rereading the oranje wall i wrote again.

I want to try reading bulba again even though i read him yesterday without making notes because i want to know if my scumread is just that his ability makes me nervous or if there's something there. if bbmolla's is shorter i'll reread that one first.

those are the things i feel strongest about at the moment.

Just take the night. Come out with a strong vote you believe in and we can work from there.

[Titus]

Death flipping honest doesn't clear Boonskies. In fact, I suggest it makes him even more likely to be scum.

Consider: we've seen quite a lot of town investigative roles. Like ... a lot of confirmed flipped town investigative roles. Why aren't we considering Boonskiies a potential scum rolecop?

And you never asked for House to investigate you or the masons or cerb, and now you're bitching about Boonskiies having questionable investigations? Are you kidding me?

[Titus]

(tbh I'm partially not listening because I'm not going to follow ChriVi at this point anyways, partially because I'm not really seeing where he's coming from.)

Then why won't you try to figure it out with your team so you can elaborate where you're confused?

It's like you decided today to do whatever the fuck you wanted that was anti-town as fuck. Your play today doesn't match the last 5 days and it's bothering me.

[Titus]

Gee, why don't we all volunteer to be lynched tomorrow? Then there's no way any of us will be lynched. Totally. That sounds great. [/sarcasm]

[Titus]

VOTE: BBMolla

[Titus]

BC, I am stumped today but after that flip, I wanted to come out swinging.

[Titus]

Why after that flip

Narninan redirects from you instead of known cops. Kinda suspect. Reminds me of yhe game that shall not be naned.

[Titus]

@Plotinus, I am voteable today but I cannot vote.

[Titus]

I convinced my team to janitor me as scum.

[Titus]

Butcher Pastry game.

[Titus]

Post in hydra.

Anyone else think Vyse is the obvious choice for OC to use?

Did you ever use it?

[Titus]

I like OC's role as town. His role is weaksauce until a janitored flip.

Nope use it on Vyse.

[Titus]

@OC, we have two confirmed town doctors in a doc circle. There's only a few ways this doesn't get called.

1) scum have a strongman/day vig
2) There's at least two scum remaining

#6330, I do. I wouldn't have any suspicions if you had already used it on Vyse. You were not an NK threat, nor are you an NK threat.

[Titus]

*shrug* Do not care.

We should lynch Bulba or Plotinus. Boon if he's scum is dead due to mountaon of clears.

Drixx is most likely GF but we'll get to him last.

My function is to help tiebreaks. Given doc circle that is unlikely.

[Titus]

I'm lynchable just not nkable and I cannot vote.

[Titus]

Titus is down to pinning her last hopes on me being a Godfather now? *amused*

I win with town so I literally do not care anymore. The two purpose of my role is to save us in the extent of a mylo mislynch ir shenanigans. Given we have doc circle and a shit ton of mislynches, I don't care to push for my way. No motivation. No whatever.

BC + Plot should be lynches. Drixx is scummiest.

[Titus]

Lols.

I say lynch BC and Plot, they both jump on my wagon.

Whatever. Really don't care.

[Titus]

Intent to Hammer

.

Titus ... can you give us your venge target if you flip town? Got any last words to share with us to help pull out the win? Anyone hammering Titus that isn't me will earn the eternal interweb stare of doom™.

Any of you, Plot or BC would be my venge target.

[Titus]

Molla could be scum as well, but his not pushing me kinda bodes well for him. Just kinda demoralized at this point.

And yes,, that's a town demoralization. I've made cases, pushed near perfection and yeah... zippo.

[Titus]

I mean hello, the conftowns want a different wagon, and yet, I pick up steam. Tells you all you need to know. Scum have control, town doesn't. Don't care though.

[Titus]

Why? The conftowns are still likely derping. It just chains the lynches. I'm not going to try and convince you of an argument that I don't believe to save my own bacon when I'm useless. Hell we all are once we lynch one scum.

[Titus]

Well we know delayed day vig can bypass doctor. If I had known it, I might have fought harder. *shrug* I just was tired of fighting. Drixx/BC/Plot, scum in there.

[Titus]

I agree with that. Plot suddenly voting me after buddying me indicates scum, but that's also a point against BC.

[Titus]

AP, that's cognitive dissonance for you. I think BC read them as town but thought no way, it had to be fake due to the setup. That is part of the reason I sometimes hold what people feel are ridiculous positions, such as the masons aren't conftown until one flips. Yes, it's a pain in the ass but situations like this DO happen.

[Titus]

AP, that's cognitive dissonance for you. I think BC read them as town but thought no way, it had to be fake due to the setup. That is part of the reason I sometimes hold what people feel are ridiculous positions, such as the masons aren't conftown until one flips. Yes, it's a pain in the ass but situations like this DO happen.

Yes. Setup spec RELIANCE ftl. It's a tool, not a crutch. Also, Titus, you've said you had things to say about me once this game was over?

askdjfaldjfaleskd

For translation, don't talk about ongoing in dead thread.

[Titus]

I'll pre-in just to see if ika can contain the "always tunnel Titus" that is ika.

[Titus]

I wanted to change, besides people were confusing me with KJ. I found this pic when searching for pics that would work well for a new hydra. Changed the hair color and BAM. No more scummy looking avatar.

[Titus]

I think we would all want to hydra with him. I would as well but for a more wacky setup. I am much weaker in normals than themes.

[Titus]

Oh and Plotinus, you are up for two scummies for your play. Congrats.

[Titus]

While we're calling hydras, I'd actually like to do one with you sometime down the road, Titus. I'm interested in figuring you out a bit better, and I think that could be fun for both of us.

Just PM me when you want to. I am very liberal with the amount of hydras I have.

[Titus]

Sometimes that happens. I feel Singer's initial reasons for scumreading me made no sense, yet her dogged determination really threw things off for us. While her initial reason was shit, her follow through and coffin pushing was good. I think cooper's play here was similar but less forceful.

I have pulled that bulletproof gambit and only caught scum before this game. Sigh.

[Titus]

That's fine. I know I tend to tunnel. My biggest issue is that both town and scum are logical but determining motivation. FMPOV, if someone claims BP, you don't enquire further unless you need tto kill said role. The other two times I did it, were one where my sister and one scum from each faction bit and two, where I was semi-obvtown and claimed it to get an extra cop off.

I look at scumhunting as a puzzle to see who gains what by pushing things. Take the emotion out, what do people do.

[Titus]

Wait, titus so you think emotion holds no information?
Spotting faked anger/frustration and genuine emotion can be telling in my oppinion.

That's overstating things. Both scum and town can have genuine emotion, especially in multiball. It's rare to catch true inconsistent emotions. Knowing too much or too little or seeking useless information tend to be better tells.